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CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE
MINUTES
MARCH 14,2016,6:00 PM
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN ST, SEBASTIAN, FL
Chairman Jones called the Charter Review Committee Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. ROLL CALL
Present:
Absent:
Fred Jones, Chairman
Carolyn Sartain -Anderson (excused)
Beth Mitchell, Vice Chair
Matthew Sims (excused)
Mike Baran
Michael Frank (excused)
Dan Dragonetti
Albert lovino (excused)
Bruce Hoffman
Also Present:
Louise Kautenburg
Kelley Armitage, Special
Dick Krull
Magistrate/Acting City Attorney
Sergio Mota
Jeanette Williams, Deputy City Clerk
Nancy Munoz
Frank Terranova
Bob Zomok
4. AGENDA MODIFICATIONS — None
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - February 8, 2016 Minutes
MOTION by Mr. Zomok and SECOND by Mr. Hoffman to approve the February 8, 2016
minutes carried with a unanimous voice vote. (11-0)
6. PUBLIC INPUT - None
7.
New Members, Frank Terranova and Nancy Munoz introduced themselves.
Mr. Hoffman said he would like to add language to Section 2.06 (e) regarding the vacancy of
the mayor. Mr. Zomok cited his comment on page 24 and noted the phrase reorganization
of council isn't in the Charter. Acting City Attorney Armitage explained one of the council
members requested the reorganization and the question became was the office vacant, the
Charter contemplates that the mayor might move or is incapacitated, then the vice mayor
would move up. On February 24, it was up to city council to decide if Council Member
Gillmor could resign. He further explained that after an election, council calls for
reorganization as provided for in the Charter, and Council Member Hill happened to call for
another. The Charter provision giving council the power to do something can also give them
the power to undo it absent the prohibition of undoing it.
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Mr. Zomok said he would like language that disallows what happened. Mr. Hoffman said the
authority should be clearly stated. Ms. Kautenburg said the mayor is chosen to lead his
peers during a meeting for a length of time.
In response to Mr. Krull, Acting City Attorney Armitage said this could not happen to the vice
mayor because his term is stated; since council did not accept Council Member Gillmor's
resignation, the vice mayor's responsibility was to call for mayor. He agreed with Mr.
Hoffman that a procedure for removing the mayor should be inserted in the Charter and the
procedure could be outlined in an ordinance.
Ms. Mitchell stated public officials are privy to information and facts that the public is not
aware of and she believed some of the council members believed they were doing the right
thing. She said the philosophy of leadership/building consensus/working as a team are
esoteric terms that they are trying to codify which is not an easy task. She said it is
important to have a cohesive council that can work together and agree to disagree and they
have a responsibility to do right thing. Ms. Mitchell said she considered taking out the
motion to define the mayor's term because it is important that council has the ability to
govern themselves.
Mr. Zomok said council having knowledge that citizens may be unware of could be a
violation of the Sunshine Law. He said he provided a possible solution on page 24.
Ms. Mitchell asked him to clarify what he thought was a violation of the Sunshine Law. He
said council members possibly having information that the public would not be aware of.
Acting City Attorney Armitage said a violation would be if two members were discussing
issues outside of a noticed meeting or if someone serves as a conduit; but if a council
member learns of something by his own investigation, it is not a violation.
Mr. Zomok said the public should have been aware of some things that were happening.
Ms. Mitchell said she believed each council member has information that the public does not
have which is not a violation, but part of the difficulty was council could not sit and talk about
it as outlined in his proposal on page 24(which might be a violation in of itself.) She noted
that council can go into closed sessions to discuss circumstances to benefit the city but not
in this situation. Mr. Zomok said he appreciated the discussion on his proposal.
Mr. Dragonetti said the public doesn't know what went on behind closed doors; they didn't
get the information that led to what appeared to be a personality battle and Council Member
Gillmor wasn't given a chance to explain.
Ms. Munoz said she was concerned they were using the Charter to prescribe rules for the
sandbox; her goal for the 2016 Charter Review is to see what's not working and propose a
fix; this might be the reason the mayor's term was left out; a locked term might be able to
address different personalities.
Mr. Mota said there is a Facebook page with 80-90 comments from individuals that didn't
understand the Charter violations. He said an important part of the military is the ability to
communicate and the ability to communicate to the constituents is missing and should be
addressed.
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Mr. Zomok said the Charter is the Constitution for the city, it is incumbent to discuss a
problem and see if it deserves to be in the Charter. It worries him that if the Charter is silent
on something, it can be done.
Mr. Terranova said no one asked Council Member Gillmor to make statement, it wasn't
stated why the other members didn't like his leadership, and the office is for ribbon cutting,
and parades.
Chairman Jones called for a motion but no one wanted to change anything further in
Section 2.
B. Ms. Munoz Comments Reaardinq Article 1-1.02 (4
Ms. Munoz explained that information technology addresses the building of infrastructure
and method of collecting/storing data and telecommunication is ability to send and receive
information. She suggested the word telecommunication may be a more effective term. Mr.
Krull suggested have both telecommunication and information technology.
MOTION by Ms. Mitchell and SECOND by Mr. Krull to include both terms when Section 1.02
(4) is considered again passed with a unanimous voice vote. (11-0)
In response to Chairman Jones, Mr. Hoffman said he started a motion to address term
limits. Chairman Jones noted the house bill died relating to the time and manner of
municipal elections and the 2011 ballot question probably died because of the way it was
written on the ballot. Mr. Hoffman suggested that council serve two consecutive four-year
terms. Ms. Mitchell reminded them that they did vote on longer terms but not term limits.
Mr. Hoffman added that should term limits pass but not the length of term, members would
only serve a total of four years.
Acting City Attorney Armitage said each ballot question could only have one issue. Mr.
Hoffman WITHDREW his motion to address term limits but would like Council members to
have four year terms. Chairman Jones asked if this would prevent off year elections. Ms.
Kautenburg said the March election was moved to November to hold one election.
C. Mr. Zomok's Comments Regarding Article II
Mr. Zomok cited the motion to give council a raise and reported that he pulled the Council
members W2's and is waiting for a salary survey of other council members from Human
Resources Manager Cindy Watson. Ms. Mitchell said her motion's intent was to change
how council members are compensated for business expenses given that $300 a month is
open-ended, she would like receipts submitted for reimbursement in addition to their
$600.00 monthly income.
Mr. Krull reported the Vero Beach mayor makes $1125 and council members receive
$900.00 a month. Mr. Mota noted Vero Beach has more employees and he still wasn't
comfortable voting on a salary increase.
Ms. Kautenburg noted that at the last Charter Review they kept a list and at the end went
back over what they wanted to recommend to council and asked the Committee to stay with
the agenda.
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8. NEW BUSINESS
A. Review and Discuss Article III —Administration and Legal Departments (Article III
Zomok Comments, Munoz Comments 3.03, Terranova Comments 3.03, 3.04. 3.09)
DIVISION 1. — GENERALLY
Sec. 3.01. - Creation. — No changes
Sec. 3.02. - Appointment [of Charter officers]. — No changes
Sec. 3.03. - Removal of Charter officers.
Mr. Zomok noted on page 32 Sebastian 's Charter mirrors some of the National Civic
League's Model Charter and asked the Committee to turn to page 39 where he has
rewritten this section.
Mr. Krull noted the model charter was written in 2003 and asked how so many
changes would be presented to the electors. Mr. Zomok said in 2011 they did whittle
down a list and their questions will be at the end of a very long ballot this November.
Ms. Mitchell said she would still like to see an annual evaluation for the Charter
officers, leaving the evaluation procedure up to Council. Ms. Kautenburg noted at
one time the officers were evaluated at a public meeting with standard compliments,
it was useless for normal employee/employer situation; the officers serve at the
pleasure of city council with contracts so it probably didn't need to be addressed in
the Charter.
There were no recommendations to change this section.
Mr. Krull asked what is reasonable period of time for a Charter officer to prepare for
hearing in Section 3.03(b). Chairman Jones stated it would probably depend on
what type of charges are levied. Mr. Terranova said he was concerned with the term
believes with no requirement for proof to support the beliefs, there should be a
reasonable answer time and a process to remove an officer. Mr. Hoffman reminded
them that the officers serve at the pleasure of City Council. Mr. Dragonetti said he
believed in evidence. Mr. Hoffman said that Section 3.02 regarding serving at the
pleasure of Council would need to be changed. Ms. Kautenburg noted the Charter
officers' contract keeps removal from being frivolous.
MOTION by Mr. Terranova to include that council provides proof to remove an
officer so the officer has some idea of what he is facing.
Mr. Zomok said it's been his experience that an employment agreement is a
misnomer, it is really severance agreement and asked if the officers were at -will
employees. Acting City Attorney Armitage advised that absent an employment
agreement or a union contract, employees are at -will in Florida. Mr. Zomok asked
the Committee to consider the proposed removal process at the top of page 40.
Mr. Terranova WITHDREW his motion to study the proposal. Mr. Zomok requested
to come back Section 3.03.
Sec. 3.04. - City manager; powers and duties.
Mr. Zomok said the additional detail in the model charter would help the city manager
understand what is expected of him, and if he didn't meet those expectations, why he
would be removed.
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Mr. Terranova said it does not provide for any accountability or reporting structure by
the city manager. Chairman Jones said he is comfortable with council handling a city
manager.
3.05. - City clerk. - No changes
DIVISION 2. - POLICE DEPARTMENT
Sec. 3.06. - Police department.
Mr. Terranova said the police chief should be a Charter officer and answer to the city
council. Ms. Kautenburg explained that Council is elected every year and having the
police chief work for different people every year would not be consistent; the city
manager should be the ultimate guy in charge.
Sec. 3.07. - Reserved. – No changes
Sec. 3.08. - Reserved. - No changes
DIVISION 3. - LEGAL
Sec. 3.09. - City attorney
Mr. Zomok commented that the city attorney is not an officer in the model charter,
the current Charter only states there should be an attorney so he wasn't sure why
the attorney should be a Charter officer.
MOTION by Mr. Zomok to remove the city attorney as a Charter officer. Acting City
Attorney Armitage noted the city attorney should serve as chief legal advisor to city
Council and his motion would have him report to the city manager. With that
explanation, Mr. Zomok WITHDREW his motion.
Mr. Hoffman asked why paragraph ( c) was in Section 3.09 but not in the city
manager or city clerk section. Ms. Kautenburg noted all three officers have
contracts. The intent of paragraph ( c ) was undetermined by the Committee and Mr.
Krull pointed out the same could be said for defining the Police Department in the
Charter but not addressing for example, the Public Works Department.
B. Review and Discuss Article IV – Elections (Acting City Attorney – Update on
Proposed Legislation Re: Municipal Election, Article IV, Zomok Comments)
Sec. 4.01. – Adoption of state election laws. – No changes
Sec. 4.02. - Filing of candidate's oath: fee.
Mr. Krull noted paragraph (b) indicates that someone can't start running for office
until 75 days prior to the election. Ms. Kautenburg said you could announce your
candidacy. Mr. Mota said there is also specific code providing for the placement of
signs. The Deputy Clerk explained candidates can pre -qualify ahead of time; the
time frame in this section provides for the completion of all of the necessary forms
and payment of qualifying fee.
Sec. 4.03. - Reserved. – No changes
Sec. 4.04. - Special election for other purposes. – No changes
Sec. 4.05. - Reserved. – No changes
Sec. 4.06. - Reserved. – No changes
Sec. 4.07. - Reserved. – No changes
Sec. 4.08. - City canvassing board: canvass of election returns.
In response to Mr. Krull, Chairman Jones noted the first sentence referred to a
county -wide election as opposed to a city -only election.
Sec. 4.09. - Same—Ballots. – No changes
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Sec. 4.10. - Reserved. — No changes
Sec. 4.11. - Reserved. — No changes
Sec. 4.12. - Election procedures; tie vote.
Mr. Krull suggested the language should say highest number of votes. Ms.
Kautenburg explained that while she agrees, the meaning is understood. Mr. Zomok
cited the Town of Indian River Shores referendum that included many issues in
addition to a catch-all sentence reading "to clarify and update language in various
sections." Acting City Attorney Armitage said the referendum sounded like it was a
summary that included many issues and could be called law grueling.
Chairman Jones asked if the language referring to two years need to be changed if
council is given a four year terms. Acting City Attorney Armitage said each question
is supposed to address one issue, at the last Constitutional Revision Commission the
voters did vote on grouped issues and it would be up to the Committee if they want
to recommend an initiative that has two issues. Ms. Kautenburg asked if a line could
be included to address any conflicts. Acting City Attorney Armitage said the initiative
could contemplate both since they are complimentary to each other.
MOTION by Ms. Mitchell and SECOND by Chairman Jones to amend her previous
motion to include Section 4.12 passed with a unanimous voice vote. (11-0)
Sec. 4.13. - Reserved. — No changes
Sec. 4.14. - Interim government. — No changes
9. STAFF MATTERS - None
10. COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTERS - None
11. SET DATE AND ITEMS FOR NEXT AGENDA (March & April Available Dates)
MOTION by Ms. Kautenburg and SECOND by Mr. Baran to hold the next meeting April 11 to
discuss Articles V and VI passed with one opposing voice vote. (10-1)
Ms. Munoz asked if she could participate telephonically. The Deputy City Clerk suggested
she could submit written comments. Ms. Munoz said she would watch the broadcast live.
12. Being no further business, Chairman Jones adjourned the Charter Review Committee
meeting at 7:51 p.m.
Approved at the April 11, 2016 Charter Review Committee Meeting.
airman Fred Jones Date
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