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AGENDA
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Monday, February 27, 2017
6:00 PM
1) CALL TO ORDER
2) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3) ROLL CALL
4) AGENDA MODIFICATIONS
Modifications and additions require unanimous vote of members. Deletions do not apply.
5) APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Regular Meeting Jan 23, 2017
6) UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
Item A: Citywide Parks and Recreation Master Plan Status - Tindale Oliver
Minutes from 08 Feb. City Council Meeting
Item B: Friendship Park Special Needs Playground Status
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Item C: Friendship Park Pickleball Courts Status
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Item D: Dog Park Fire Hydrant Update
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Item E: Pete Harris Plaque Update
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7) NEW BUSINESS:
Item A: Restrooms at Barber Street Sports Complex
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8) PUBLIC INPUT
9) STAFF MATTERS
10) BOARD OR COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTERS
11) ITEMS FOR THE NEXT AGENDA AND DATE
12)ADJOURN
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THIS MEETING (OR
HEARING) WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE HEARD.
(286.0105 F.S.)
IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS
MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING.
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 23, 2017
1. Call to Order — Chairman Sims called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm.
2. Pledge of Allegiance was recited by all.
3. Roll Call
Present
Mr.
Matthew Sims
Mr.
Greg Paschall
Ms.
Rosemary Flescher
Ms.
JoAnn Webster
Ms.
JoAnne White
Ms.
Corrine Gilroy (A)
Excused Absence
Ms. Tammy Nelson (A)
Also Present
Mr. Joe Griffin, City Manager
Ms. Margarita Hernandez, Parks Administrator
Ms. Susan Mann, Recording Consultant
4. Agenda Modifications — None
5. Approval of Minutes
Regular Meeting November 28, 2016
A motion to approve the November 28, 2016 minutes as presented was made by
Ms. Flescher, seconded by Ms. Gilroy and passed unanimously by voice vote.
6. Unfinished Business
Item A: Citywide Parks and Recreation Master Plan Status — Tindale Oliver
Proposal of Professional Services Agreement/Parks Recreation Master Plan
Ms. Hernandez stated that she had been in negotiations with Tindale Oliver and as
reflected in their proposal the cost had been reduced to $50,000. She explained that a
representative of the company was to be present this evening, but medical issues
prevented it.
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Minutes of Regular Meeting of January 23, 2017
Mr. Paschall asked for details on what was eliminated to lower the cost. Ms. Hernandez
responded that the proposed inventory and amount of detailed analysis has been
reduced. They are requesting the City provide more assistance than what was in the
original quote. Mr. Paschall stated that he is in favor of the project and supports
forwarding the proposal to City Council.
Mr. Sims expressed concern that the reduction in price may impact the product the City
receives. Mr. Griffin stated that he is concerned that Tindale Oliver will be relying more
on City staffs input and should there be any deficiencies in the final product there could
be a question of who was responsible.
Ms. Hernandez explained that under the current proposal, Tindale Oliver would use
information that the City can provide, as well as information from the Property
Appraiser's office in order to produce the Inventory and Mapping portion. Tindale Oliver
would not create an official Boundary Survey.
Mr. Sims expressed concern that their using City data may result in questions as the
project progresses. Mr. Griffin explained that due to the nature of Consulting
Agreements it is more difficult to measure performance than in the case of a tangible
item such as a structure.
Ms. White stated that she is not concerned about using the information the City has for
the creation of this master plan. She does support going forward with it so the City will
have direction for the future.
Mr. Paschall stated that he agrees with Mr. Griffin that this is not something that can be
measured as would a structure, but he supports moving forward with the negotiations.
He stressed that what is essential is that Tindale Oliver be instructed as to what the City
wants the plan to include, i.e. current needs, trends and future needs of the community,
etc.; if it does not, then do not proceed. Mr. Griffin responded that he believes that Item
3, Recommendations & Implementation Plan, addresses Mr. Paschall's concern about
future planning.
Ms. Flescher stated that she agrees with Mr. Paschall regarding the content of the plan
provided. She asked if the City staff will be able to respond to the requests for
information they are going to receive. Mr. Griffin responded that Ms. Hernandez handles
all the administrative matters. That will mean that she will be tasked with going to the
parks and counting the equipment. Mr. Griffin expressed concern that should there be
an error in the count it may fall back on staff. Ms. Flescher stated that she supports
forwarding the proposed plan to City Council. Mr. Griffin stated that if the Committee
decides, he will present the proposal at the first meeting in February and requested that
Committee Members be present.
Ms. Gilroy asked what data the City will be providing and what liability the City will face
by providing this information. Mr. Griffin responded that the City has a very good liability
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Minutes of Regular Meeting of January 23, 2017
policy in place that would cover Ms. Gilroy's concern. He stated that he has confidence
in Ms. Hernandez's ability to handle the administrative matters of the department.
Ms. Webster stated that she is more concerned about the Recommendations &
Implementation than she is the Inventory and Mapping. She asked if it would be
possible for the Committee to assist with the inventorying of the park equipment. Ms.
Hernandez thanked the Committee for their offer of help. She explained that she has
been keeping an unofficial inventory of the parks and what equipment/facilities are at
each one.
Ms. White asked if there had been an inventory done in past years. Ms. Hernandez
responded that she did find one, but it was much more general than the one she is
keeping. Ms. White stated that she supports providing assistance if needed.
Mr. Paschall asked if Tindale Oliver's not being present impacted the information
available to the Committee. Mr. Griffin responded that in his opinion it did not.
Mr. Sims reiterated his concern about the large difference between the original bid and
the current one. He called for any further questions, hearing none he called for a
motion.
A motion that the Tindale Oliver Proposal be presented to City Council at their next
meeting and the Parks and Rec Committee members be in attendance for a consensus
panel to the Council was made by Mr. Paschall. The motion was seconded by Ms.
White and passed unanimously by voice vote.
Item B: Donation and Relocation of Friendship Park Special Needs Playground
Equipment.
Special needs playground equipment and associated costs.
Ms. Hernandez explained that the information provided to the Committee shows details
on the cost of new ADA playground equipment both on the high end and the lower end.
She stated that the total estimate for the equipment and the special foundation material
required would make the cost approximately $80,000.
Mr. Griffin reported that the donation of the existing ADA playground equipment to the
United Methodist Church has been approved by Council and is in process. It should be
completed by mid-February. He suggested presenting the Committee's
recommendation concerning the purchase and installation of the new playground at the
Council's second meeting in February.
Ms. White asked about the funding and suggested possibly having the Disability
Advisory Committee provide their thoughts on this ADA playground. Mr. Griffin
responded that Committee has not met in approximately one year but he will check with
the City Clerk regarding their status.
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Minutes of Regular Meeting of January 23, 2017
Mr. Paschall stated that he feels there needs to be more information regarding
community needs, future trends, ADA direction, etc. before he could make an informed
decision.
Mr. Griffin stated that the donation and removal of the existing ADA equipment is
supported by Council and the question before the Committee is replacement. He
explained that the existing equipment is not used a great deal and suggested that
replacement be done on a smaller scale and possibly in phases determined by usage.
Mr. Paschall supported Mr. Griffin's suggestion and stated that to his knowledge the
only piece of the playground equipment that was ADA was the swing set, so possibly
start by replacing that.
Ms. White supported starting small and asked if there had been any input from residents
in support of the proposed new one. Mr. Griffin responded he had received no input.
Ms. Webster stated that she was not aware that the park was for special needs and
suggested that possibly the residents are not aware that it is available. She supported
having more ADA equipment for the special needs children to use.
Ms. Flescher stated that she supports starting small, but would like to receive input from
residents who would use the park as to what they view as most useful.
Following discussion the consensus was to place a request for input on the Website, TV
Station and advise the schools that the City is looking for input from parents as to what
type of equipment would be most helpful for an ADA playground.
Ms. Gilroy suggested doing research to determine the number of Special Needs
children in the area and make the determination as to size and cost based on that
information.
Mr. Sims supported starting small, but stated that it would be good if the Committee
could receive input on the needs of the Community before making the decision to move
forward.
Mr. Griffin stated that he supports involving the Disability Advisory Committee if
possible. He stated he will contact their Chairman to determine the status of the
Committee. This item will be placed on the Parks & Recreation Committee's next
Agenda.
Item C: Lifeless Tree in Dog Park — Status
Ms. Hernandez reported that the tree was removed on January 18, 2017.
Item D: Park Maps — Status
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Minutes of Regular Meeting of January 23, 2017
Ms. Hernandez reported that Public Works has refilled the map receptacles and will refill
periodically as needed.
Item E: Blue Autism Light for Easy Street Park Fountain — Status
Mr. Griffin reported that the blue Autism light should be on this evening. It was
necessary to replace the pump and light receptacle, so the blue light was installed at the
same time. He stated that we will verify that it is on this evening.
7. New Business — None
8. Public Input
Mr. John Tenerowicz, 310 South Wimbrow asked when the Clock Tower would be
working again; he stated that something has to be done with the parking by the Splash
Pad during big events; the shrubs planted at the dog park as buffering are still as small
as they were when planted; there is a dead tree behind his house which is on City
property; and he asked what the status of litter pick up by Public Works is.
Mr. Griffin explained that due to the CavCorp project the electric to the lights and the
Clock is inoperative. This would have been corrected sooner had it not been for the
hurricane clean up and followed by the preparation for the Clambake. He provided
details on the additional lighting that will be installed in the parking area and explained
that all the electricity will be addressed at the same time.
Mr. Ben Hocker, City of Sebastian, expressed his concern that there was no public input
for the Master Plan or for the donation of the playground equipment. In regard to the
lighting to be installed in the CavCorp parking area that it would reduce the amount of
available boat parking. He stated that in regard to the mapping of the parks that much of
that information can be found at the County's website and google used to view the
properties. He stated he does not support the expense of a Parks Master Plan because
the City is at build out and the population is comprised mostly of senior citizens. He
suggested considering using another location, such as the area at the Golf Course or
Airport, for the Art and Music Festival. He explained that those areas could better
handle the large turnout and parking requirements.
Mr. Jim Sunnycalb reported that the fountain at the Dog Park leaks and requested that it
be repaired. He stated that there have been a couple trees die at the Dog Park which
he believes is a result of the male dogs relieving themselves on the trees. He stated
that he has requested the installation of fire hydrants or some other device in the park to
reduce this problem. He suggested possibly installing a boxed in sandy area with some
sort of device that would attract the dogs. This would help keep the waste centralized
which would result in better clean up by the owners and would protect the trees.
Following discussion about installing posts or some other device for the dogs, Mr. Griffin
responded that could present a liability issue should someone trip over it. After
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Minutes of Regular Meeting of January 23, 2017
additional discussion regarding fire hydrants, Mr. Griffin stated that one at the Airport
had recently been damaged and replaced; he would look into securing that one and
installing it in the Dog Park.
Mr. Sunnycalb asked about the status of the plaque he had requested be reinstalled at
Riverview Park. Mr. Griffin responded he would look into it.
Mr. Sunnycalb urged the Committee to consider revamping more of the parks to be
handicapped accessible by providing better sidewalks, installing tables with the
extension that accommodates wheel chairs, improving the pavilions for wheel chair
access. He expressed support for the suggestion to get input from people who know
firsthand what would improve access to the parks.
9. Staff Matters — None
10. Board or Committee Member Matters — None
11. Items for Next Agenda and Date
Mr. Sims stated that the next regularly scheduled meeting would be Monday, February
27, 2017. He urged the Committee Members make every effort to attend the next City
Council meeting.
12. Adiourn
Chairman Sims called for any further business, hearing none he adjourned the meeting
at 7:12pm.
By:
Matthew Sims, Chairman
Parks and Recreation Committee
s/m
Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee
Meeting of Feb. 27, 2017
Agenda Item A
Regular City Council & CRA Meeting
February 8, 2017
Page Six
Vice Mayor Coy said she supported Mr. Hill's statement, not to spend because it allows for
fluctuations. She said Council is capable to argue with the Budget Committee on any items
that are not necessary. She said by not budgeting any more ad valorem revenue, which is
sort of obscurely setting the millage rate, implies they anticipate zero growth, or growth will
pay for itself, and doesn't take into account contractual obligations such as pay raises for
staff.
The City Manager said there will be labor negotiations this year for wages but there is no
automatic increase.
Mr. Dodd asked when the last time the Budget Committee came back to Council not to
increase the millage at least above the rolled -back rate; he would like to establish goals
without saying they are going to the rolled -back rate.
Mayor McPartlan said they should always stay within their means and asked if they were
taking away the City Manager's ability to navigate through key projects. He is willing to go
item by item in the budget.
Mr. Dodd said they could pay back the retirement loan tomorrow if they wanted to; at the
end of the last budget cycle a $240K operational surplus was put into the R& R fund and yet
taxes were raised without paying back the retirement loan—making it even more important
to provide some goal setting.
Mr. Dodd said one of the Budget Committee members mentioned they did not want to
borrow from the reserve to pay an operational expense. He said there are some staffing
issues that the City Manager needs and they should concentrate on addressing that.
7:10 pm
MOTION by Vice Mayor Coy and SECOND by Mayor McPartlan to advise the Budget
Review Committee that not one penny more than we have to—to maintain our quality of life-
-will be budgeted, in the next budget.
ROLL CALL: Mayor McPartlan – Aye Vice Mayor Coy - Aye
Mr. Dodd – Nay Mr. Hill –Aye
Ms. Kinchen - Aye
Motion carried 4-1.
Consider Parks and Recreation Master Plan Proposal from Tindale Oliver Design in
the Amount of $50,000 and Authorize the City Manager to Execute Appropriate
90111� Documents (Transmittal Agreement)
The City Manager stated Tindale Oliver has submitted an agreement for a master plan and
staff recommended consideration.
MOTION by Ms. Kinchen and SECOND by Mr. Hill to approve the Tindale Oliver master
plan.
Mr. Dodd asked if this could be done in-house or could they use the money to hire an
employee to address this and some of their planning needs. The City Manager said this
was brought forward at the request of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee and
didn't necessarily agree with it.
C
Regular City Council & CRA Meeting
February 8, 2017
Page Seven
Mayor McPartlan cited the $10,000 charge for community outreach and recalled the unused
plan developed for a new community center. At that time only two Council Members and
four citizens provided input. Ms. Coy noted the agreement will provide the City a flyer to
acquire the input instead of the consultant. She suggested it should be done in-house.
Mr. Hill noted there is not enough staff at this time and to hire someone will be more than
$50,000; if they didn't like the project, the project should be nixed but to be careful about
adding professional staff.
ROLL CALL: Vice Mayor Coy - Nay Mr. Dodd — Nay
Mr. Hill —Aye Ms. Kinchen — Aye
Mayor McPartlan - Nay
Motion failed 3-2 to hire Tindale Oliver to develop a parks master plan.
15. CITY ATTORNEY MATTERS - None
16. CITY MANAGER MATTERS
The City Manager asked to withdraw the proposal to reduce the fishing piers and docks that
he brought forward at the last meeting except for the Boudrot pier. He recommended
reconstructing the piers to their original length and offered to bring back a demolition
estimate for the Boudrot pier to the next meeting.
17. CITY CLERK MATTERS - None
18. CITY COUNCIL MATTERS
A. Mayor McPartlan
Mayor McPartlan reported that April is Child Abuse Prevention Month and requested that
CASTLE be allowed to install a Memory Field in Riverview Park from April 19-28. There
was no objection. He will advise Council of date for the ceremony.
B. Vice Mayor Cov
Vice Mayor Coy asked that Sebastian's participation in the Indian River Lagoon Coalition be
placed on the next agenda.
She noted the City Manager receives a lot of requests and she would like him to have
unanimous support before he carries out a request. For example, the blue light was
installed at the Easy Street pond based on two people; it should be clear where the City
Manager's support is coming from.
C. Council Member Dodd
Mr. Dodd said he wasn't sure how the procedure for installing the blue light happened and
Mr. Hill said it seemed like a maintenance decision.
Vice Mayor Coy explained that people who live on road weren't consulted, the request came
from Mr. Sunnycalb and a Parks and Recreation board member; it wasn't voted on and a
decision was made.
Mr. Hill noted the light is a management issue. Vice Mayor Coy said she wanted to reinforce
that is okay for the Manager to say no and appreciates his decision to keep the light blue
until April.