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PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF WORKSHOP MEETING
MAY 22, 2017
1. Call to Order — Chairman Sims called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm.
2. Pledge of Allegiance was recited by all.
3. Roll Call
Present
Mr. Matthew Sims
Mr. Greg Paschall
Ms. Corrine Gilroy (A)
Not Present
Ms. JoAnn Webster — Excused
Ms. JoAnne White — Excused
Ms. Rosemary Flescher
Also Present
Mr. Frank Watanabe, City Engineer
Ms. Margarita Hernandez, Parks Administrator
Ms. Susan Mann, Recording Consultant
4. Agenda Modifications
Mr. Sims stated that since there is not a quorum present, no action would be taken.
5. Approval of Minutes — Regular Meeting April 24, 2017 — No Action Taken
6. Unfinished Business
Item A: Friendship Park Special Needs Playground Status
Ms. Hernandez stated that as a result of input at the last meeting, both from the public
and from a Committee member regarding a more desirable location for the Special
Needs Playground the matter is being brought back for further discussion; but since
there is not a quorum, it will have to be delayed until the next meeting. She explained
that the bid documents have been put on hold pending selection of the location. In
response to Mr. Sims question about the previous ADA playground location she
explained that Friendship Park was selected because much of the infrastructure is
already in place and it is near where the former ADA playground was located.
Mr. Paschall suggested that the public be notified so they can have input into location
before the next meeting.
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Mr. Sims called for input from the public; hearing none he continued with the agenda.
Item B: Pickle Ball Status
May 10`h City Council Draft Minutes
CSA -2 Agreement
Ms. Hernandez reported that the City Council approved CSA -2 Agreement which allows
for the permitting and the final design for 8 Pickle Ball courts with the construction of 4
now and 4 at a later date. The Council would still have to approve the construction of
the courts. She clarified for Ms. Gilroy that the action taken at this time is to permit all 8,
but construct only 4.
Mr. Paschall stated for the record that the input he has received from residents is that
they would like to have all 8 constructed. He suggested looking at removing some of
the proposed amenities which already exist close by, so that these savings could be put
toward constructing all 8 rather than just 4.
Ms. Hernandez responded that the consensus and approval of Council was to do the
ground work for 8 and build 4 now. Mr. Paschall stated that with rising construction
costs if the difference between building all 8 now as opposed to 4 now and 4 later could
be addressed. Ms. Hernandez responded that staff will take that into consideration.
Mr. Sims asked if the timeframe in which the future 4 courts was established. Ms.
Hernandez responded that no timeframe was discussed. He stated that he would really
like to see the construction of all 8, but understood the financial aspect; 4 would be a
good addition to the recreational facilities the City offers.
Mr. Sims called for input from the Public on the Pickle Ball Courts.
Mr. Ben Hocker, City of Sebastian, stated that with the summer heat and the City's
visitors return to the North he has not seen a great deal of use of the tennis courts and
doubts that there would be use of the Pickle Ball Courts. He provided details on how
the Recreational Impact Fees are allocated and that the Ordinance clearly stated that
those fees are to be used in the section in which they were collected. Mr. Hocker
expressed concern about how the use of the Impact Fees is determined.
Mr. Sims called for further public comment; hearing none he closed the meeting to the
public and called for Committee comments.
Ms. Gilroy referred to the City Ordinance concerning compliance and distribution of
Impact Fees and stated that she would like a legal opinion if the distribution is in
compliance. She stated that she has provided staff a copy and anticipates receiving the
information shortly.
Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee
Minutes of Workshop Meeting of May 22, 2017
Item C: Recreational Impact Fees Update
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Ms. Hernandez explained that a question about the Barber Street Netting in the amount
of $14,875 budgeted in FY 2015/2016 was asked. She reported that it was completed
and paid for in FY2016.
Mr. Sims called for public input; hearing none he continued with the agenda.
Item D: Playground Inspections
May 10th City Council Draft Minutes
Ms. Hernandez reported that the City Council, at their May 10th meeting, approved the
Playground Inspections and selected Playground Guardian to provide the service. She
explained that the inspections are scheduled for June 12th through June 14th; upon
receipt of the inspection report she will provide that information to the Committee. She
confirmed that the inspections will include ADA equipment.
7. New Business
Item A: Dog Park Status
Ms. Hernandez reported that on May 151 notices were posted directing the removal of all
personal property from the park; on May 15th all property still remaining was removed by
the City. She explained that property not belonging to the City cannot be documented
or controlled; if someone were to be injured as a result of using someone else's
property the City could be liable. She stated that the City urges those using the park to
bring chairs, bowls, etc. for their enjoyment, but to remove those items upon leaving the
park. She explained that there will be more signage in an effort to prevent conflicts
between either dogs or their owners. Additionally, the park will be closed on
Wednesday mornings from 7:30 am until 9:30 am for maintenance. There has been a
suggestion box installed and she urged the people using the park to take advantage of it
as a way to communicate their ideas to the City. She stated that the City will make
every effort to accommodate as many of the suggestions as is feasible.
Mr. Sims stated that he supported the removal of all non -City items from the park. He
explained that with the high winds that occur the unsecured items could be blown
around and cause damage possibly to surrounding buildings which would result in a law
suit against the City.
Mr. Sims called for questions or comments from the Committee; hearing none he
opened the meeting for public comment.
Barry Lawson, 143 South Wimbrow Drive, stated that he was confused by the removal
of the chairs and their return 3 days later. He suggested posting a sign that you enter
and use the park at your own risk, preventing the concern of City liability. He also
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stated that many of the people who use the park need walkers, etc. and carrying a chair
or dog bowl would be difficult to impossible.
Louise Beane, 1125 Breezy Way, stated that for the last 3 years she has gone to the
park every day for 2 hours. She explained that the park has become family to her and
the other regulars and they are very upset that the City removed the chairs, and
especially the water bowls and pools. She stated that some people don't come
anymore because there is limited seating in shaded areas. She agreed with the
statement that many of the people who come to the park are handicapped and unable
to carry chairs, etc.
Sandra Ashton, 11375 Kashi Court, stated that there was no notice given before the
chairs and dog bowls were removed which caused concern. She suggested that the
City provide sufficient shaded seating in both the large and small dog park. She
requested the installation of a dog fountain in the small dog park which would remove
the need to bring bowls. She explained that the grass is nothing but sand and asked if it
could be reseeded. She concurred with that statements that a lot of the people who use
the park are unable to carry in chairs, etc.
Armand Courchesne, 677 Wimbrow Drive, stated that one of the reasons he purchased
in Sebastian was the dog park. He stated that he feels that it provides safety for both
dogs and their owners, giving them a place to exercise without concern about traffic.
He explained that the owners maintain control over their dogs and if there is a problem
they step in to prevent it. He suggested possibly charging for use of the park, although
it would probably not be well received. He expressed his appreciation for what is
available in the City for residents' enjoyment.
Harry Hall, 214 Joy Haven, stated that as he sees it the main issue is seating and dog
bowls. He stated that he is aware that building a pavilion or planting more trees would
be very expensive. He suggested that the City consider placing some plastic chairs and
dog bowls in the park. He asked if it could be placed on the City Council agenda for
their action.
Deborah Schneider, 107 Mabry Street, expressed concern about the limited parking.
She stated that parking should be limited to those who are using the park only and
possibly increasing the handicapped parking.
Geri Garzia, 295 Wimbrow, asked if the rumor is true that the City is planning to close
the park. Mr. Sims and Mr. Paschall responded that the park will not be closed. Ms.
Garzia expressed her appreciation for the park.
Jeanne Westwater, 9355 105th Avenue, stated that she has been going to the park
since it first opened. She noted that access, on her scooter, is difficult because of the
unevenness of the sidewalks. She explained that the lawn has not been maintained
resulting in more sand than grass which results in the dogs getting very dirty.
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Barry Lawson stated that if the park has been open for 10 years with the chairs, bowls,
etc. being left there, why is there a change being made at this time. Mr. Sims
responded that, he does not know the specific reason, but possibly the City saw the
need for change now to prevent a possible problem in the future. Mr. Sims urged Mr.
Lawson to plan to attend the next City Council meeting and pose his question to them
during Public Input. Mr. Sims stated that it is necessary to adhere to the rules posted at
the park. He suggested that those using the dog park consider visiting other dog parks
to see what amenities are offered.
Maureen Baxter, 125 Miller Street, stated that any time she has contacted the City with
concerns about the dog park Ms. Hernandez has been very helpful in resolving them;
when repairs were done the workers were very pleasant. She explained that what is
being discussed is not just a dog park it is a "community treasure" enjoyed by not only
the dogs, but the owners too. She stated that she has a petition signed by the people
who enjoy the dog park, many of whom could not attend the meeting this evening. She
gave the petition to Ms. Hernandez.
Hamilton Edwards, 182 Easy Street, stated that he understands the liability to the City
for personal items being left in the park. He asked how the City plans to replace those
items with ones that will not pose a hazard. He asked if seating, dog bowls, etc. will be
provided by the City.
Jim Sunnycalb, Sebastian, stated that he maintains the Bark Park website and has
received comments both positive and negative. He suggested installing a fountain to
provide water to the dogs; he noted that the drinking fountain in the large dog park
indicates it is handicapped accessible but a wheel chair can't access it. He suggested
that the water fountains provide cold water; installation of more ADA compliant picnic
tables inside the park; installation of a picnic table outside the park for those needing to
eat. He suggested that if the City established a way to enforce the rules that might
increase the number of people who follow them.
Mr. Sims closed the meeting to the public and thanked them for their input.
He asked Ms. Hernandez if it would be possible for Code Enforcement to monitor the
use of the parking lot. Ms. Hernandez responded that she will look into it. She stated
that the information received this evening will be reviewed by staff and a presentation
will be made at the next meeting with possible solutions to the problems identified. She
urged those using the park to place their suggestions in the suggestion box so the City
will know what their ideas are. She stated that the City is happy to implement as many
of the suggestions as is practical. Mr. Sims asked if the dog park could be inspected as
part of the playground inspections. Ms. Hernandez responded that the inspections are
of playground equipment only and the dog park is not included because it does not have
any playground equipment. Mr. Sims expressed concern that all parks conform to ADA
requirements. Mr. Watanabe responded that he is on the Disabilities Committee and
this concern will be addressed.
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Mr. Sims asked if it would be possible for the City to provide some chairs for the park.
Ms. Hernandez responded that staff will look into what improvements can be made,
such as providing additional benches and trying to locate them in the shade.
Mr. Paschall thanked the public for coming and for their comments. He explained that
the City did not take action in order to be disruptive to those using the park; the
Committee was not aware of a problem until this evening. He stated that it is the City's
desire to make the dog park a pleasant and safe place for residents and their dogs as
well as the surrounding neighbors.
Ms. Gilroy expressed appreciation for the public input and considering the dog park a
"community treasure'. She stated that she does not see any of the suggestions being
unreasonable and she will support implementing those suggestions as quickly as
possible.
8. Public Input—Conducted under Agenda Topics
9. Staff Matters
Ms. Hernandez stated that at the May 10th City Council Meeting, the City Council
approved a group named Autism Warriors planting a Magnolia Tree in Riverview Park.
Currently staff is working with them on planting and location; it will be lighted during
April for Autism Awareness Month.
10. Board or Committee Member Matters
Mr. Sims thanked the public again for coming forward and expressing their concerns
and suggestions. He reiterated his suggestion that if residents have questions or
concerns they attend a City Council Meeting and present those to the Council.
11. Items for Next Agenda and Date — The next meeting date is June 26, 2017
12. Adjourn Chairman Sims called for any further business, hearing none he
adjourned the meeting at 7:15 pm.
By:
Matthew Sims, Chairman
Parks and Recreation Committee
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