HomeMy WebLinkAbout11091982 GCMINUTES OF PECIAL MEETING - CITY COUNCIL - GOLF COURSE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.-
NOVEMBER 1982
4�
MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY MAYOR PAT FLOOD, JR. AT 7:00 P.M.
PRESENT: VICE MAYOR EVERETT GASS, COUNCILMAN FRANK OBERBECK, COUNCILMAN RICHARD
VOTAPKA, COUNCILMAN GEORGE SCHUM, MAYOR PAT FLOOD, JR,
BOARD OF DIRECTORS: ARTHUR TROWBRIDGE.. WILLIAM ROUX, HARRY MORRIS, DONALD VICKERS,
CLAY PRICE, CHAIRMAN DANIEL MELIA.
ABSENT: DON LIVINGSTON, ALTERNATES GORDON CARLILE, CARROLL SIMES.
WITH PERMISSION OF THE COUNCIL, MAYOR FLOOD TURNED THE MEETING OVER TO CHAIRMAN MELIA.
THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING WAS TO DISCUSS PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE GOLF COURSE ORDINANCE
AND PRESENTATION OF OPERATING GUIDELINES.
MR. MELIA STATED THAT AT PRESENT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS CONSISTS OF 7 MEMBERS AND
2 ALTERNATES. THE BOARD WAS OF THE OPINION THAT THIS NUMBER OF MEMBERS WAS TOO
CUMBERSOME AND RECOMMENDED THAT FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY, IT BE REDUCED TO 5
MEMBERS AND 1 ALTERNATE. DURING THE COURSE OF DISCUSSION IT WAS SUGGESTED BY
THE COUNCIL THAT THE MEETINGS COULD BE IRUN MORE EFFICIENTLY IF THE FINANCIAL
REPORTS WERE RECEIVED BEFORE HAND AND DISCUSSED AT THE SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH.
ALSO, THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE A SECRETARY WHO WILL DISTRIBUTE THE MINUTES FOR PERUSAL
BEFORE THE MEETINGS ARE HELD.' IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THE BOARD HAS COME A LONG WAY
AND HAS DONE A FINE JOB AND IT TAKES A LOT OF INPUT TO RUN AN OPERATION OF THIS
MAGNITUDE. EACH MEMBER OF THE BOARD GAVE HIS OPINION ON THIS MATTER. MR. MELIA
PRESENTED A LETTER FROM DON LIVINGSTON STATING THAT HE WAS AGAINST THE REDUCTION.
MR. TROWBRIDGE WAS ALSO AGAINST IT. THE OTHER MEMBERS WERE FOR IT.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OBE.RBECKf SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR GASS, TO REJECT THE 5 WAN
BOARD, CONTINUE AS PER THE ORDINANCE, AND COME BACK IN 6 MONTHS FOR RECONSIDERATZONx
ROLL CALL VOTE; AYES:
VICE MAYOR GASS
COUNCILMAN OBERBECK
it VOTAPKA
" SCHUM
NAYS: MAYOR FLOOD
CARRIED.
MAYOR FLOOD STATED THAT THE SECRETARY WILL BE PAID OVERTIME AFTER 4;30 P.M.
WITH REFERENCE TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, NO. 0-81-26, SEC. 12.5-7 (c), MR, MELIA
REQUESTED THAT THIS PARAGRAPH BE CHANGED TO READ: "THE BOARD MAY TEMPORARILY LOWER
THE RATES OR CHARGES, FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 1 YEAR,---"- INSTEAD OF "-THREE ,MONTHS",
ALSO, TO ADD: "A SCHEDULE OF APPROVED RATES AND CHARGES SHALL BE PRESENTED TO THE
COUNCIL IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEIR ADOPTION." HE EXPLAINED THAT THE SUMMER HERE RUNS
FOR 6 MONTHS FROM MAY THRU OCTOBER AND THE SAME RATES HAVE BEEN HELD FOR THE WHOLE
SUMMER. THEY WANT TO KEEP THE RATES LOW ENOUGH SO THAT THEY CAN BE IN COMPETITION
WITH THE OTHER COURSES IN THE AREA. DURING DISCUSSION, THE COUNCIL SUGGESTED THAT
6 MONTHS WOULD BE BETTER.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OBERBECK, SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR GASS, TO APPROVE THE LOWERING
OF RATES FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 6 MONTHS, WITH AN OPTION TO EXTEND FOR 1 MONTH.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: VICE MAYOR GASS
COUNCILMAN OBERBECK
It
VOTAPKA
It
SCHUM MAYOR FLOOD CARRIED.
MR. PRICE INFORMED THE COUNCIL THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDED ORDINANCE INCLUDED THE
FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH UNDER SEC. 12.5-5 (2): "TO PROVIDE FOR THE EFFICIENT AND PRO-
FESSIONAL MANAGEMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE BY BEING AUTHORIZED TO HIRE, SUPERVISE
�1 AND FIRE A GENERAL MANAGER OF THE FACILITIES, A GOLF COURSE PRO, A GOLF COURSE
SUPERINTENDENT, AND A FOOD AND BEVERAGE MANAGER, AND SUCH OTHER AND ADDITIONAL
EMPLOYEES AS THE BOARD MAY DEEM NECESSARY; AND TO ADOPT AND IMPLEMENT SAID EMPLOYEES
DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES." MR. MELIA REMARKED THAT THIS WAS PRESENTED TO HIM
UNDER OPERATING PROCEDURES AND HE NEVER SAW THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE. MR. PRICE
ADVISED THAT AFTER HE HAD CONSULTED WITH ATTORNEY KILBRIDE REGARDING THE NEW
ORDINANCE, IT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHEN MR. MELIA WAS ON
VACATION. COUNCILMAN OBERBECK FELT THAT NO ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN ON THIS IN
VIEW OF THE FACT THAT THE ORDINANCE STARTS OUT WITH: "THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS --rr
AND IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAD NEVER
SEEN IT. MR. PRICE CONCURRED THAT THEY HADN'T AND ADDED THAT HE HAD NEVER SEEN
IT UNTIL BROUGHT TO THE WORKSHOP MEETING, BUT THAT HE HAD HAD THE CITY ATTORNEY
PREPARE`IT BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE CHANGES TO HIM.
MR. MELIA INTERJECTED THAT MR. PRICE HAD BEEN TOLD TO TAKE THE TWO CHANGES WITH
REGARD TO THE 5 MAN BOARD AND THE LOWERING OF THE RATES. HE ADDED THAT APPARENTLY
THERE WAS A MIXUP IN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN MR. PRICE AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, BECAUSE HE WAS DIRECTED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY
ATTORNEY, HAVE A NEW ORDINANCE PREPARED. WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE BOARD IT
WAS AN OPERATING PROCEDURE AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORDINANCE.
MAYOR FLOOD STATED THAT HE HAD A PROBLEM WITH ITEM 3, PAGE 3, - "TO APPROVE ALL
EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENTS, CONTRACTS, CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, AND PURCHASE AGREEMENTS
IN EXCESS OF $11000." - SINCE NOONE HAS THE RIGHT TO AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURES OVER
$1,000. MR. MELIA REMARKED THAT HE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF
THE BOARD. AS FAR AS HE WAS CONCERNED, THE MOTION WAS MADE AT A MEETING OF THE
BOARD TO PRESENT THE 5 MAN BOARD, THE LOWERING OF THE RATES, THE TABLE OF ORGANIZ-
ATION, AND OPERATING PROCEDURES. THIS IS WHAT WAS VOTED ON TO BE PRESENTED TO THE
COUNCIL AND THIS IS WHAT HE WAS PREPARED TO PRESENT.
MR. MELIA BROUGHT UP FOR DISCUSSION THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION WITH THE FOLLOWING
CHAIN OF COMMAND - CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, MANAGER - THE MANAGER
WOULD BE OVER THE GOLF COURSE PRO, COURSE SUPERINTENDENT, AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE
MANAGER. THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, BUT MR. MELIA PERSONALLY DOES NOT THINK
A MANAGER IS NEEDED AT THIS TIMET AND THERE IS NO ALLOWANCE IN THE BUDGET FOR ONE.
MR. VICKERS REMARKED THAT MR. RAY LADD, THE GOLF PRO, HAD BEEN SERVING AS MANAGER
AND HE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. MR. MELIA STATED THAT HE HAS A LOT OF TROUBLE
WITH MR. LADD BEING THE PRO MANAGER. HE FEELS THERE IS A LACK OF COMMUNICATION
BETWEEN HIM AND THE BOARD. HE LISTED SIX THINGS WHICH MR. LADD HAS BEEN ASKED TO
DO THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE - PUT RAKES ON THE CARTS. REMOVE KEYS FROM CARTS.
HAVE TOURNAMENTS POSTED SO THE MEMBERSHIP WOULD KNOW WHEN THEY COULD OR COULD NOT
PLAY. NO MORE PRO SHOP PURCHASES TO BE MADE. LOWER THE PRICES IN THE PRO SHOP.
GET OK OF THE BOARD ON ALL CONTRACTS. MR. MELIA ADDED THAT IF WE HAD A PRO WHO
WOULD COOPERATE WITH THE BOARD, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR A MANAGER.
- 2 -
MR. ROUX STATED THAT ALTHOUGH WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT NOW, EVENTUALLY WE WILL
HAVE TO HAVE A MANAGER. THERE ARE JUST T00 MANY THINGS THAT COME UP THAT A
GOLF PRO SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HANDLE. MR. TROWBRIDGE AGREED WITH -MR. ROUX,
ADDING THAT HE SAW NO NEED AT THE PRESENT TIME. EVERYONE IS DOING A GOOD JOB.
MR. MORRIS STATED THAT A PRO MANAGER AUTOMATICALLY CREATES CONFLICT OF INTEREST
AND THERE SHOULD BE A MANAGER AND A PRO. MR. VICKERS STATED THE GOLF COURSE
IS WHERE IT IS TODAY BECAUSE IN HIS OPINION MR. LADD HAS BEEN SERVING AS MANAGER.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL AND THAT'S BEING
DONE BY MR. LADD. IF THERE WAS MONEY TO HIRE A MANAGER, HE WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM
WITH THAT. MR. PRICE STATED THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A MANAGER VERY QUICKLY.
THERE ARE PROBLEMS AND NOBODY TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. WE CAN'T WAIT FIVE YEARS.
WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE SOMEBODY NOW WHO CAN ACT IN BOTH CAPACITIES. MAYOR FLOOD
TOTALLY DISAGREED WITH THIS. HE REMARKED THAT AS FAR AS A PRO, MR. LADD IS ONE
OF THE BEST, BUT HE IS A POOR MANAGER. IF THE PRO WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE PRO
SHOP AND THE RUNNING OF THE GOLF COURSE, AND EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD HANDLED THEIR
OWN AREA, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR A MANAGER. MR. LADD WAS ASKED IF HE HAD
ANYTHING TO SAY AND REPLIED THAT HE WOULD RATHER NOT MAKE ANY COMMENT TONIGHT,
BUT WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO COMPLY WITH ANYTHING THAT
THE BOARD WANTS.
MR. ROUX STATED THAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT DEPART-
MENTS. THINGS ARE RUNNING SMOOTHLY AND IT SHOULD BE LEFT THAT WAY FOR NOW.
IT WAS AGREED THAT TWO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SHOULD BE ASSIGNED TO EACH DEPART-
MENT, ALL REPORTING TO THE CHAIRMAN, WITH THE ENTIRE BOARD MEETING AND REVIEWING
ANY PROBLEMS.
MOTION BY MR. MORRIS, SECONDED BY MR. VICKERS,
/omll� TABLE OF ORGANIZATION, THE BOARD CONSISTING OF
TOP WITH A LINE COMING DOWN WITH 3 LINES COMING
THE PRO, 2 MEMBERS THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE, AND 2
TENDENT, ALL REPORTING TO THE CHAIRMAN.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: MR. TROWBRIDGE
MR.
ROUX
MR.
VICKERS
MR.
MORRIS
MR.
PRICE
MR.
MELIA
NAYS: NONE
TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL THE
7 MEMBERS, THE CHAIRMAN AT THE
OFF, 2 MEMBERS COORDINATING
MEMBERS THE COURSE SUPERIN-
CARRIED
MOTION BY VICE MAYOR GASS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SCHUM, TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENA-
TION OF THE GOLF COURSE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ADOPT THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION.
ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES:
VICE MAYOR GASS
COUNCILMAN OBERBECK
It VOTAPKA
it SCHUM
MAYOR FLOOD
NAYS: NONE
69
- 3 -
CARRIED
THE 7 ITEMS OF THE OPERATING GUIDELINES WERE READ ALOUD BY MR. MELIA. EACH
ITEM WAS DISCUSSED SEPARATELY WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES BEING MADE:
ITEM 3 - WHEN A STARTER IS PRESENT, HE WILL STRICTLY ENFORCE ALL STARTING
TIME ASSIGNMENTS.
ITEM 7 - THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERALL OPERATION
OF THE SEBASTIAN MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE AND SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITY
OF SEBASTIAN.
THE ENTIRE SECTION ON MANAGER'S DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES WAS THROWN OUT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:05 P.M.
/0011
w
- 4 -
MR. PRICE INFORMED THE COUNCIL THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDED ORDINANCE INCLUDED THE
FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH UNDER SEC. 12.5-5 (2): "TO PROVIDE FOR THE EFFICIENT AND PRO -
(4%'1 FESSIONAL MANAGEMENT OF THE GOLF COURSE BY -BEING AUTHORIZED TO HIRE, SUPERVISE AND
FIRE A GENERAL MANAGER OF THE FACILITIES, A GOLF COURSE PRO, A GOLF COURSE SUPER-
INTENDENT, AND A FOOD AND BEVERAGE MANAGER, AND SUCH OTHER AND ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES
AS THE BOARD MAY DEEM NECESSARY; AND TO ADOPT AND IMPLEMENT SAID EMPLOYEES DUTIES
AND RESPONSIBILITIES." MR. MELIA STATED HE NEVER SAW THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE. IT
WAS PRESENTED TO HIM UNDER OPERATING PROCEDURES. MR. PRICE ADVISED THAT AFTER HE
HAD CONSULTED WITH MR. KILBRIDE REGARDING THE NEW ORDINANCE, IT WAS BROUGHT BACK
TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHEN MR. MELIA WAS ON VACATION.
MR.MELIA I"M HAVING TROUBLE WITH THIS RIGHT NOW. THIS WAS PRESENTED TO ME UNDER
OPEATING PROCEDURES. MR.RICE: THIS WAS THE ORDINANCE CHANGE. MR. MELIA: I NEVER
GOT THIS. I NEVER SAW THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE. PLOD: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE
CHANGED THE ORDIANCE OR SOMETHING YOU TYPED UP IN THE ORDINANCE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE
CHANGED? PRICE: THAT"S SOMETHING WE SAID WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE AND ALSO WITH
THE 5 MEMBERS AND THE OTHER STUFF YOU JUST GOT. THAT WAS WHAT DAN DREW UP FOR
THE DIRECTORS. MELIA: HE MIGHT HAVE DRAWN IT UP BUT WE NEVER SAW IT. PRICE:
T"S OUT OF HERE. MELIA: I CAN'T HANDLE IT BECAUSE I DON"T KNOW WHAT WE"RE TALKING
OUT. FLOOD: IS THAT AN ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE? PRICE: AN ADDITION TO THE
ORDINANCE. IT FALLS UNDER THE OTHER ITEMS. IT WAS A CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE.
IT WAS TO PUT IN MORE ADDITIONAL POWER IN THE ORDINANCE. THE OTHER THINGS THAT
WERE PRESENTED WERE OVERLAPPING ITEMS ANDAFTER KIL AND I SAT DOWN AND WENT OVER
IT, THESE WERE THE CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO THE ORDINANCE TO CONFORM WITH
WHAT WE WERE GIVEN TO DO. MELIA: I:M SORRY ABOUT THIS. THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US
NDER OPERATING PROCEDURES. THAT"S THE ONLY WAY IT WAS WEVER PRESENTED TO ME AND
IF KIL DID THIS, IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT BACK TO OUR BOARD. PRICE: YOU WERE,ON VACATION.
OBER: THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS YOU"VE HAD. IF SOMETHING's DONE THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE BOARD SHOULD BE NOTIFIED. OBER: I DON'T THINK FEEL WE SHOULD TAKE ANY ACTION
ON THIS WHTSOEVER. IN FACT I"M INSULTED BY THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT IT BEFORE THIS
COUNCIL. THE FIRST SENTEOE SAYS WHEREAS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE SMGOC - THE
CHAIRMAN OF YOUR BOARD AND 3 MEMBERS TELLS ME THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN IT. PRICE: THEY
HAVEN'T. I NEVER SAW IT UNTIL THE WORKSHOP. OBER: AND YET YOU HAD THE CITY ATTORNEY
PREPARE IT? PRICE: THAT"S RIGHT BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE CHANGES
THAT WE HAD PFROVED - MELIA: NOW WAIT A MINUTE. YOU WERE TOLD TO TAKE TWO CHANGES
THE CHANGE ABOUT A 5 MAN BOARD AND THE CHANGE ON THE LOWERING OF THE RATES. IF I"M
INCORRECT I"D LIKE THE BOARD TO TELL ME SO. RESSS OBER: CLAY, I"D MAKE THE SAME
STATEMENT IF IT WAS ANY OTHER MEMER OF THE BOARD. I DON"T THINK IT"S RIGHT THAT
SOMETHING SHOULD STATE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND JOUR ENTIRE BOARD IS NOT AWARE OF
WHAT THIS THING SAYS. PRICE: I WASN"T AWARE OF IT UNTIL DAN BROUGHT IT TO ME.
OBER: WELL, SOMEONE BROUGHT IT TO DAN. PRICE: I DID BECAUSE I WAS TOLD - GASS:
THEN HE OR DAN SHOULD HAVE SEEN. THAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAD COPIES. PRICE: DAN
DIDN"T HAVE IT PREPARED UNTIL, THE WORKSHOP MEETING. FLOOD: WELL, I DIDN"T KNOW WE
HAD IT OR I WOULD HAVE HAD --SUFFICIENT COPIES. I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD THIS CHANGE.
OBER: THIS COSTS MONEY. THIS TAKES CITY ATTY. TIME TO PREPARE AN ORDIANCNE.
PRICE: IT WILL BE PAID FOR BY THE GOLF COURSE. OBER: WITHOUT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
KNOWING IT. PRICE: THEY KNEW ABOUT IT. YOU GAVE US THE SAME ARGUMENT THE LAST TIME.
THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT TELLING YOU WE WANTED TO. OBER: NO, YOU HAVE A BOARD
OF DIRECTORS. WHAT YOU:RE TELLING ME IS THAT YOUR OWN BOARD OF DIRECTORS HASN?T SEEN
THE ORDINANCE. IT"S BETWEEN YOU AND THE CITY ATTY. FLOOD: WHAT THIS COUNCILS ALL
ABOUT IS THAT WE"RE SETTING HERE TO TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD. AS MATTER
OF FACT WHEN WE SET YOU PEOPLE UP WE SAID THAT YOU"RE GOING TO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT
AND WE:LL TAKE A LLOOK AT IT AND AS LONG AS WE FEEL ITS RIGHT AND ITS GOING.TO HELP
THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, THAT: S WHAT WE"RE GOING TO DO. SHESSAS DO YOU WANT MORE
TIME TO LOOK AT THIS TIME OR DO YOU WANT TO DISCUS IT TONITE OR WHAT? MELIA: I THINK
IT WAS A COMMUNICATION MIXUP BETWEEN PRICE AND THE BOARD SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.
HE WAS DIRECTED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE ATTY, HAVE A NEW ORDINANCE PREPARED, BECAUSE
WE THOUGHT THIS WAS THE PROPER WAY WE SHOULD COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL SO THEY COULD
$SEE HOW' THE NEW' QNE W0AT4D. BEAD W.£,TH THE CHANGE THAT . [aOULD EBE EFFECTED BY THE
-5 A4N $PARD lyTTH ONE AZTERNATE AND HOW IT WOULD EFFECT THE ALTERNATE FROM EITHER
INSIDE THE CITY OF OUT, IT WAS ALSO TO ASK THE ATTY TO EFFECT A CHANGE THAT WOULD
LOWER THE RATES FROM 3 ;MONTHS WHICH WE DISCUSSED. WHEN'(E DISCUSSED THIS AT THE
BOARD IT CAME OUT IN"A SHEET LIKE THIS WHERE IT SAID THE BOARD 0 F DIRECTORS SHALL
HIRE OR FIRE - IT WAS'AN OPERATING PROCEDURE OF THE B OF D. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH THE ORDINANCE. SOMEWHERE THAT COMMUNICATION GOT MESSED'UP AND I CAN ONLY SAY
THAT PRICE MISUNDERSTOOD IT. OBER I WOULD RECOMMEND IN THE FUTURE PRIOR TO HAVING
ANY ORDINANCE PREPPRED YOU HAVE A MEETING SIMILAR TO WHAT WERE HAVING TONITE SO WE
ARE AWARE OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND. HES ALREADY PREPARED THE'ORDINACNE NAD WE HAVE
ALREADY 'VOTED DOWN THE FIRST ISSUE. GOING FROM 7 TO 5 MAN BOARD. FLOOD: SOMETHING
RIGHT HERE WE NED TO LOOK'AT. ON PAGE 3: TO APPROVE ALL EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENTS, CONTRACTS,
CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, AND PURCHASE AGREEMENTSIN EXCESS OF $1,000. MELIA: I DON'T
THINK THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION OF OUR BOARD. FLOOD: I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT
BECAUSE NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT IN THE CITY TO AUTHORIZE MORE THAN A $1000. EXPENDITURE.
OBER: BRING US BACK YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WELL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. MELIA
I;D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH WHAT I HAVE. PRICE: CAN I SAY SOMETHING IN MY OWN
)WENSE. WHAT HAPPENED THE B OF D SAT DOWN AND MADE AN OPERATING PROCEDURE. WHAT
�THE B OF D WOULD DO, WHAT THE MANAGER"S RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE, TABLE OF
MIZATION, SOME OPERATING GUIDELINES. WHAT I WAS TOLD TO DO. WAS TO TAKE THE
CHANGES THAT WOULD EFFECT THE ORDINANCE AND THAT INCLUDED THE REDUCTION IN THE
NO. OF DIRECTORS, CHANGE IN THE RATES, AND ALSO WHAT THE BOF D. SHALL DO. WHAT
YOU ALL ARE NOT SEEING IS A REPLICATION. A LOT OF THIS STUFF IT SAYS THE BOF D
SHALL. A BUNCH OF IT IS REPETITIOUS OF WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE ORDIANNCE SO WHAT
I WAS TOLD TO DO WAS TO TAKE THIS AND GET IT READY FOR ORDINANCE FORM AND THAT"S
WHAT I"VE DONE. THAT"S WHAT THE B OF -D ASKED ME TO DO. SO I SAT THERE AND DK AND
I WENT OVER IT EACH OF THESE IREMS WHAT WAS ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE, WHAT WASN(T
AND WHAT WE WANTED TO CHANGE, V: DID THE B OF D ASK YOU TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS
�1 THAT PRIOR TO THIS MEETING? P: ALL THEY SAID WAS TO TAKE IT AND GET IT READY FOR
COUNCIL. SO I TOOK IT ALONG -WITH THE TWO CHANGES THEY TACKED ON AND THAT WAS IT.
FLOOD: I THINK I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASSUME THAT IT WAS LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND
NOBODY IS BLAMING YOU CLAY, BUT I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD.HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE
COMING TO COUNCIL. PRICE: I THINK TEHEY SHOULD HAVE TOO, BUT UNDER THE PROBLEM
OF THE TYPING STRAINS, I DIDN"T SEE I TUNTIL THE NIGHT B WE HAD THE WORK SHOP.
FLOOD: I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT AND WERE NOT TRYING TO PU THE BLAME ON YOU, BUT
WHEN YOU SAY THE MANAGE HAS A RIGHT TO PURCAHSE. OVER $1000. WHEN EVEN THE COUNCIL
DOES NOT HAVE THAT AUTHROITY. THAT"S ONE I SEE OUT OF THERE REAL QUICK, I DNT
THINK WE NEED TO GO DOWN IT TONITE. MOST -Or THIS STUFF SHOULD BE IN A RESOLUTION
ANYWAY, NOT AN ORDINANCE, WHERE OUY CAN CHANGE IT FROM TIME TO TIME. PRICE: I WENT
TO THE CITY ATTY TO GET IT DONE CORRECTEY AND THIS IS -HOW HE SAID IT SHOULD BE DONE.
WHAT"S' BEEN. GIVEN TO YOU IS A CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE. THAT "S' WHAT I WAS TOLD TO TAKE
TO COUNCIL. YOU ALL HAVE HAD THE SAME THING SINCE THE LAST WORKSHOP, RIGHT HERE
IS THE ONE I WAS GIVEN AND IT"S GOT GEORGES HANDWRITING ON IT-. SO ITIS BEEN BEFORE
YOU ALL SINCE THE WS WHEN IT WAS FIRST PRESENTED AND WHAT WE.'ARE HRERE TO DISCUSS.
FLOOD; WE MIGHT HAVE HAD IT BUT AFTER IT GOT TABLED TO THIS - PRICE; THEN IT WAS'
NOT OUR FAULT. IT WAS GXVEN TO THE COUNCIL TO REVIEW, FWD; BUT YOUR OWN BOARD
HASNT REVIEWED IT. PRICE: WHAT HAPPEND AS I EXPLAINED TO YOU BEFORE THERE WERE
SOME THINGS THAT THE BOARD VOTED ON CHANGING. SOME OF THEM WERE REPETITITOUS IN
THE ORIDNANCE AND THEY ASKED ME TO CHANGE THEM. OBER: THE ONLY THING I WOULD REQUEST
IS THAT BEFORE YOU BRING IT BACK IN FRONT OF ME, PLEASE HAVE YOUR BOARD REVIEW -IT.
AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME TO ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING TO REVIEW IT WITH -
YOU AND I WOULD THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE BEFORE YOU GO HAVE AN ORDINANCE PREPARED
YOU CONTACT ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN OR THE RAYOR OR SOMEONE IN CITY HALL TO FIND OUT
THE PROCEDURE TO FOLLOW. PRICE: I CONTACTED THE CITY ATTY. TO FIND OUT THE PRO-
CEDURE. -
CEDURE. I FIGURED HE WOULD BE THE ONE TO CONTACT SINCE HE IS MORE FAMILIAR WITH
THE LAW. V; WE HAVE VOTED TONITE TO RETAIN THE SAME BOARD,, SO THIS IS GOING TO
HAVE TO BE CHANGED ANYWAY. JUST GO BACK TO THE CITY ATTY AND HAVE HIM PREPARE
ANOTHER ONE. OBER: RICH, I WOULDN"T RECOMMEND WHAT HE SHOULD DO UNTIL SUCH TIME
AS THEIR BOARD DECIDES WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. MELIA: THESE CHANGES AS FAR AS I'M
3
CONCERNED WERE AUTHORIZED BY OUR BOARD. OBER: WERE HERE TO TAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF YOU FEEL THERE SHOULD BE A CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE, PREPARE A ROUGHT DRAFT, COME
/Amk1 BEFORE COUNCIL, LET US REVIEW ITWITH YOU AND IF WE AGREE THE CHANGE SHOULD BE MADE
THEN WE HAVE THE CITY ATTY. PREPARE IT. THESE DOUBLE EXPENDITURES ARE RIDICULOUS.
HE"s MADE A ROUGHT DRAFT, ITS WRONG ALREADY WE"VE VOTED OUT THE FIRST PORTION OF IT.
FLOOD: LET"S GO ON TO THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION. MELIA: AS FAR AS I"M CONCERNED
MOTION WAS MADE AT OUR MEETING TO PRESENT THE 5 MAN BOARD, THE CHANGE IN THE TME
WE COULD LOWER THE RATES, THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION AND OPERATING PROCEDURES.L
THIS IS WHAT WE VOTED ON TO BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL AND THIS IS WHAT I"M PREPARED
TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL. OBER: I WOULD ADVISE THE ATTY TO SHELVE IT AND WAIT UNTIL
HE GETS DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL BEFORE HE PREPARES AN ORDINANCE.
TABEL OF ORGANIZATION
MELIA: NEXT POINT TO COME UP IS CHANGE OF COMMAND FOR THE GOLF COURSE - CITY COUNCIL,
MAYOR, B OF D, MANAGER - MANGER WOULD BE OVER GC PRO, COURSE SUPT., FOOD & BEV.MGR.
RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE AMANAGER. THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE B OF D. OBER: IS THERE
A RECOMMENDATION TO EMPLOY AMANAGER? MELIA: IS IT IN THE ORDINANCE? I HAVEN'T
SEEN THE ORDINACE. F. LETS THROW THE ORDINIANCE OUT OF THE WAY. PRICE: WHAT
HAPPENED WAS THE ORD. WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALONG WITH THIS OTHER STUFF AND YOU
DIDN"T REVIEW IT. F. WE ARE DUMPING THE ORD. WE"RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE TABLE
OF ORG. MELIA: I PERSAONLLY DONT THINK WE NEED A MANAGER. BUT THE BOARD VOTED
TO HAVE A MANAGER. AND IF THEY WANT TO DEFEND HAVING A MANANGER THAT WOULD BE PU
TO THE BOARD. YOU CAN POLL THEM ANY WAY YOU WANT. TROWBRIDGE: THIS DECISION MUST
HAVE BEEN MADE WHILE I WAS AWAY. MELIA: IT WAS MADE AT A IKIND OF WS BET. WE HAD
OVER AT THE YACHT CLUB . THIS WAS.NOT A REGULAR MET. WE DECIDED TO HAVE A WS MEET.
WE WENT OVER TABLE OF ORG. WHICH WAS APPROVED BY MAJ. OF BOARD. WE BROUGHT IT UP
AT OUR NEXT REG.MEET. AND THE BOARD VOTED TO ADOPT IT AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY
CUNCIL. OBER: THERE WERE TWO MEETINGS PERTAINING TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND YOU
HAD A QUORUM AT EACH MEET.? MELIA: YES. I HAVE SOME PROBELMS WITH IT BUT THAT"S
BESIDE THE POINT. THE OARD WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW. THAT MANAGER IN THERE
CAUSES A LOT OF PROBLEMS. FIRST OF ALL, HES NOT BUDGETED. VICKERS: THE GOLF COURSE
PRO, RAY LADD, HAS BEEN SERVING AS MANAGER AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS. HE's doing THE
JOB AND HE'S THE ONE I LOOK TO FOR MANAGING THE WHOLE THING OUT THERE. MELIA: I
HAVE A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH RAY LADD BEING THE PRO MANAGER. I FIND A LACK OF COMMUN-
ICATION BET. HIM AND THE BD. I HAVE SIX LHINGS LISTED HERE THAT WE HAVE ASKED TO
DO AND HAS NEVER BEEN DONE. PUT RAKES ON THE CARTS. REMOVE KEYS FROM CARTS.
HAVE TOURNAMENTS POSTED SO THE MEMBERSHIP WOULD KNOW WHEN THEY COULD PLAY AND
WHEN THEY COULD NOT. WE TOLD HIM THAT WE DIDNT WANT ANY MORE PRO SHOP PURCHASE
MADE. THIS WAS BACK ABAUT 4 MONTHS AGO BECAUSE WE WERE WAY OVER BUDGET ON TERM.
AND HE -CONTINUED TO BUY. WE HAD TO GO BACK TO HIM 2, 31 4, TIMES TO LOWER PRICES
IN THE PRO SHOP TO WHERE WE WANTED THEM UA WE TOLD HIM THAT WE WOULD OK OR TURN
DOWN ALL CONTRACTS. I FOUND OUT JUST THE OHER DAY THAT HE MADE A CONTACT ITH
WHIS.PALMS TO PLAY GOLF AT OUR COURSE GIVING THEM STARTING TIMES WITHOUT COMING
TO THE BOARD WITH THIS. WHEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT IT HE SAID ITS A GOOD CONTAC T
AND THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. ITS LACK OF COOPERATION. I THINK IF WE HAD A PRO
OUT THERE THAT WOULD COOPEAETE WITH THE BOARD WE WOULD NOT NEED A MANAGER'AT ALL
WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO TO THAT EXPENSE. ROUX: IN ALL THE YEARS IVE BEEN AROUND
GOLF & GC, DIRECTOR, PRESIDENT, IVE NEVER YET SEEN A SITUATION THAT CAN WORK WITH
A PRO MANAEGER. MR. LADD IS AN OLD TIME PRO. HES A GOOD PRO. A LITTLE HARD TO
HANDLE BUT AS A PROFESSINAL HES GOOD. I HAVE NEVER BEEN A GOOD CLUB THAT DIDNT
HAVE A MANAGER. WE CANT AFFORD IT BUT WE NEED IT. EVENTUALLY WE WILL HAVE TO
HAVE ONE BECAUSE THERE ARE UST TOO MANY THINGS THAT COME UP THAT A PRO DOES NOT
HANDLE AND SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HANDLE. TROW. AGREE WITH ROUX. SEE NO NEED AT
THE PRESENT TIME. EVERYBDOYDOIN A GOOD JOB. THE MEN ALL KNOW WHT THEYRE DOING
NO NEED TO HAVE SOME ONE TO TELL THEM WAT TO DO. MORRIS: CANNOT HAVE A MIXTURE.
FINE FOR A SMALL PRIVATE COURSE, BUT PRO MANAGER AUTOMATICALLY CREATES CONFLICT
OF INTEREST. FEEL THERE SHOULD BE A MANAGER AND A PRO. VICKERS: GC IS WHERE
IT IS TODAY BECAUSE IN MY OPINION 2== RL HAS BEEN SERVING AS MANAGER. WE
HAVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. ALL DOING GOOD, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE
TO THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL AND AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THATS BEING DONE B Y RL.
�t
V: GETTING BACK TO THE CHART, IT IS THE MAJORITY CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD THAT WE
SHOULD GO TO A FULL TIME ADMINISTRATOR AND DIVORCE THAT PART FROM THE PRO? OBER:
4 OUT OF 6 FELT THAT THE MANAGER WAS THE WAY TO GO. MELIA: MINE WAS NOT TO GO
WITH MANAGER. OBER: WHAT WE NEED IS A DIVISION OF AUTHORITY. YOUVE ACHIEVED
IT PARTIALLY IN THIS BREAKDOWN. MIKE RUNS HIS OPERATION, NEWT RUNS HIS, EACH
OF THESE PEOPLE IS BEING PAID A SALARY WHEREBY TEHY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
THEIR OWN OBLIGATIONS TO THE CITY. MAYBE LATER ON WELL NEED A MANAGER BUT RIGHT
NOW IT MIGHT JUST BE A MATTER OF PERSONALITIES. THEY SHOULD REPORT TO BOARD OF
DIRECTORS. P: YOU NEED SOMEBODY IN CENTRAL CONTROL HWHO WILL BE THERE WHEN
THE BOARD IS NOT. ROUX: MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO DIFFERENT
DEPARTMENTS. THINS ARE RUNNING SMOOTHLY NOW. SHOULD LEAVE AS IS FOR NOW. JUST
AUTHORITY DOES BOARD HAVE? FLOOD: AS INDIVIDUALS YOU DON'T HAVE WRIGHT TO HIRE
AND FIRE, BUT THIS BOARD DOES HAVE THAT RIGHT AND YOU CAN RECOMMEND. YONXC
BOARD CAN FIRE SOMEBOUDTY BUT HE HAS RIGHT OF APPEAL TO COUNCIL. PRICE: MR. OB.
YOU SAID RAY BEEN ACTING AS MANAGER. FROM NOW ON ANYTHING THAT COMES TO HIM OF A
MANAGERIAL NATURE WHOS HE GOING TO SEND THEM TO. OB. IF HES BEEN ACTING AS MANAGER
HES BEEN ACTING IN VIOLATION OF THE ORD. BECAUSE IT SAYS AFFAIRS OF THE GC WSHOULD
BE MNANGED BY BD. I COMMEND HIM FOR DOING IT, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A DEFINITE
DIVISION OF POWER WITH THE POWERS AND DUTIES STATED FOR EACH ONE OF THE PEOPLE,
THE GC PRO, GC SUPT., F & B MAG. ANSWERING TO THE BD, EACH ONE HAVING A MEMBER OR
TWO OF THE BD OVERSEETING HIM. THE ENTIRE BOARD MEETS AND REVIEWS THE PROBLEMS.
IF YOU PREPARED SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE AS FAR AS DUTIES AND
RESPONSIIBILITIS AND IT PERTAINS TO YOUR BOARD MEMBER AND DEPARTMENTS, YOU'D
BEN BETTER OFF THAN PREPARING IT AS IT PERTAINS NWO TO A MANAGER. MAYBE ITS TIME
TO ESTABLISH A DLIN OF DUTY AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR EVERYBODY. PRICE: WHAT"S GOING
TO HAPPEN WHEN THERES SOMETHING THAT DOESNT FALL UNDER A SPECIFIC AREA? THERE ARE
THINGS THAT COME UP THAT HAVE TO BE ANSWERED IMMEDIATELY THAT DONT FALL UNDER ANY
ONE RESPONSIBILITY. WHOS GOING TO COORDINATE ALL THIS STUFF? LIKE WHAT HAPPENED
WITH NEWT. HE CALLED DAN, ME, PAT, TO FIND OUT IF HE COULD BUY SOMETHING. SOME—
BODY HAS TO -HAVE A GRASP OF THE OVERALL PICTURE OF THIS PLACE. AN EMERGENCY
EXPENDITURE. NONE OF US ARE NINTELLIGENT TO RUN A GC. FLOOD: I DONT AGREE
WITH THAT. PRICE: HAD AN EQUIPMENT PROBLEM. IF YOU HADN'T BEEN THERE, WHO
WOULD HAVE IRONED THAT OUT. THERE'S ALWAYS SOME PROBLEM ALONG THOSE'LINES.
FLOOD: PRO DIDNT BRING MOLE RCIEKTS TO ATTENTION OR THE EQUIPMENT. ANYBODY OUT
THERE WHO SEES A PROBLEM COULD KEEP US ADVISED. MANAGERS DONT GO OUT ON THE COURSE.
THEY WAIT FOR SOMEBOYD TO BRING THINGS TO THEM. DONT THINGK HAVEING MANAGER WILL
BE THE WHOLE SOLVING OF TH_E PROBELEM. WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER
WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD BECAUSE WE HAD A POWER STRUGGLE WITH SOMEBODY WANTING TO RUN
THE ENTIRE COURSE. IF WE GIVE BOARD MEMBERS AUTHORITY, WE RE ALL RIGHT.
MELIA: GET FEELING THAT COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT THAT MANAGER IS OUT AT PRENT.
CHAIRMAN AOF BOARD AND TWO MEMBERS ASSIGNED TO EACH DIVISION — PRO, SUPERINTENTENT,
F & B. REPORT TO CHAIRMAN OF BOARD.
MOTION BY MR. MORRIA, SECONDED BY MVR. VICKERS, TO PRESEENT TO TE COUNCIL THE
TABLE OF ORGANIZATION, THE BOARD CONSISTING OF 7 MEMBERS, THE CHAIRMAN AT THE
TOP WITH A LINE COMING DOWN WITH 3 LINES COMING OFF, 2 MEMBERS UPERVISIONG THE
PRO, 2 MEMBERS THE FOOD & B, AND 2 RHE GREENS COM., ALL REPORTING TO THE CHAIRMAN.
USE COORDINATING INSTEAD OF SUPERVISING.
ROLL CALL: AYES: TROWBRIDGE, ROUX, VICKERS, MORRIS, PRICE, MELIA.
MOTION BY GASS, SECONDED BY SCHUM, TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE GOLF COURSE
BO D. TO ADOPT THE TABLE OF ORGANIZATION.
/d ob' ROLL CALL: YES: EVERNBODY .
MELIA: THROW OUT MANAGERS DUTIES AND RESPONS. OPERATING GUIDELINES - 7 ITEMS.
ITEMS READ ALOUD BY MELIA. ITEM 3 - WHEN A STARTER IS PRESENT, HE WILL STRICTLY
ENFORCE ALL STARTING TIME ASSIGNMENTS. CHANGE ITE 7 - THE BOARD O
SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERALL OPERTION OF CGC AND SHALL B#UCTORS
Sp
TO THE C OF S. L THRU 23 HAS TO DO WITH THE MANAGER. JSUT THROW OUT.
FLOOD: EVERYBODY INVOLVED HAS DONE A GOOD JOB.
ADJOURN 9:05
w
el"'N
7