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HomeMy WebLinkAbout04281997 RIVERCITY OF SEBASTIAN RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING MONDAY, APRIL 28, 1997 Chairman Collins called the meeting to order at 7:02 P.M. PRESENT: ROLL CALL: Chron. Collins Mr. Smith Mr. Wild Mr. Moore Mr. Chapin Mr. Bennett Ms. Corem Mr. Thompson APPROV,,AL OF ~NUTF_~,: MOTION by Chapin/Moore I make a motion tn approve the minutes from our April 7th meeting. (4/7/97) A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0 motion carried. MOTION by Comm/Chapin i move approval of the April 14, 1997 minutes. A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0 motion carried. ANNOUNCEMENTS: None OLD BUSINES~: Discuss Sign Ordinance. Mr. Massarelli gave the staff report and explained the changes from the earlier presentation. He noted that the Indian River County Commission, at its April 22nd meeting, adopted the SR 60 Plan, and adopted it as a "pending ordinance doctrine", which means that any site plans that are submitted before it is fully adopted must comply with this Ordinance. Cbnm. Collins commented that our Riverfront is not exactly State Road 60, and asked if the sign ordinances from MyStic, Ct. and a few other places were obtained. MRI~uTERFRONT COMMITTEE S OF REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 28, 1997  assarelli responded that he and Mr. I-Lass were trying to obtain them, but hadn't received as yet. orum suggested looking at the Sign Ordinance for the barrier island in Vero Beach. It ter~ Th{ ctm MI and ply, oft si~I The Pa Iten hail Mr. Att Cin, hat( suggested to eliminate item D. on page 2; There was much discussion on"permanently window signs", and the size of window signs. The consensus was to eliminate time and ~erature message boards was much discussion about business names being painted on front w~i~; and using a relative square footage for total signage. Chapin asked for an explanation of what.kind of changing message signs would be permissible Mr. Massarelh responded that he will research this subject and reutrn with an answer. Mr. .pin continued with discussion favoring some limited neon lighting, and was in favor of using rood for permanent signs, and named a f~e~v around town that looked very nice. Good aspects aese signs were: shape, dimension, paint, and framing. He noted that temporary style plywood z could be prohibited. ~ re was discussion on discouraging internally-lit signs and encouraging spot-lighted signs. After ;h discussion, the members generally accepted limited neon sisrmge with no flashing or motion. subject of proper maintenance of signage was discussed. e4 Smith suggested that the "items that are encouraged" should be reversed with "Prohibited is", placing the. encouraged items first in the Ordinance. He also suggested exp~ the mraged items, and minimizing the prohibited items. Mr. Massarelli concurred ~ F. 1.b. and c., and 3. were discussed and determined tobe "discouraged but, not prohibited". em G. 1.a., bacldit awnings should be prohibited. All members concurred. Massarelli agreed to recheck item 14. on page 4. ~is point, the public was requested to make comments on material covered sO far. iy Dierkes of Sebastian spoke on the individuality of each business and the possible financial Lship for small business owners each time new themes are suggested for an area. 1 RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 28, 1997 Mr. Neglia suggested that this Committee's intent be made more clear and details more specific when it's recommendations are sent to City Council. He also spoke on the importance of proper maintenance of current plywood signs for appearance. Mr. Carl Yarema commented on neon signs and pole signs, and a timeline for the changeover to the recommended monument signs discussed by this Committee. He also noted that the U.S. 1 corridor has a different "flavor" than the rest of the proposed "Riverfront District", and cautioned that being too restrictive could force present small businesses to move just out of the city limits to avoid restrictions. Chmn. Collins commented that the different areas within the Riverfront District have been addressed in reference to various uses. He conceded that these areas still need some refinement. At this point, Mr. Massarelli referred to the question made earlier about "changeable copy" signs, and indicated page 2, E.2. for electronic signs which are prohibited, and page 7, C. for manually operated signs. Page 5 Mr. Massarelli noted item H., which begins on page 4 and continues at the top of page 5, and noted /00� that he has more work to do on this, and will bring it back before the Committee at a later meeting. There was general agreement that gold leaf should be included in item 2.a., and the word "bright" be placed before the prohibited gold color in item I.2.a.. Mr. Smith suggested that the prohibited colors should be narrowed down. Mr. Bennett commented that if small businesses on Indian River Drive have a uniqueness to their business, they should not be told what colors to use, and felt that signs should be related to the color of the business. Chmn. Collins suggested that in reference to fluorescent, garish and/or bright colors, the term "not dominated by..." might be used instead of prohibited. There was discussion on the number of changes to the code in the last ten (10) years, and the possibility of probable change to these Ordinances for the Riverfront District after they are adopted by City Council. Mr. Massarelli noted the importance of vigilance of the business owners, the community and the Committee to monitor this plan and make sure it stays on track. At this point, all members agreed to extend the meeting for one-half V2 hour. Page 6 eo"*N Mr. Chapin commented that page six (6) left a lot of flexibility for people to come into compliance There was discussion on how long an existing sign could remain before coming into compliance. RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 28, 1997 Chmn. Collins suggested an appeal process to give small business owners an option, and provide relief, and mentioned a five (5) or ten (10) year period of time for compliance for existing signs. He also commented that this Ordinance needs to include a provision for maintenance for existing signs. Mr. Bennett spoke on the life -expectancy of a sign, and noted that some are guaranteed to last for twenty or twenty-five (20 - 25) years. He noted that pole signs have that life -span, but also need maintenance. He recommended that a provision for this be noted in the ordinance along with how it will be dealt with. He also suggested that along U.S. 1, in front of large office buildings, the street -side signs should only indicate the building name and/or address, and the listing of individual business names should be recessed away from the highway. It was noted by some members that this might be a safety issue. Page 7 There was much discussion on the height of a facade or wall sign in item B.1. Ten (10) per cent of the building height was suggested, with a "not to exceed" provision included. There was discussion about when pole signs are acceptable, and Mr. Massarelli displayed a drawing of the different monument and pole style signs. Ms. Dierkes suggested that certain individual properties with existing businesses, such as hers, don't have anywhere to put monument style signs and may have to be handled separately. Mr. Bennett suggested that when these Riverfront Ordinances are passed, there should be made a list of exceptions, immediately, so that if and when City Council is approached for a variance, they have some background for decisions. NEW BUSINESS: Chmn. Collins noted that the discussion of the proposed Riverfront District Landscape and Urban Codes will be postponed. PUBLIC COMMENT: None CHAIRMAN MATTERS: Chmn. Collins announced that he would not be attending the next meeting as he will be out of town, but he will be here on May 19th. He also asked about the status of the request for an alternate Committee member, and Mr. Massarelli informed him this is being addressed. MEMBERS MATTERS: None 4 RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF MONDAY, APRIL 28, 1997 STAFF MATTERS: Mr. Massarelli noted two items that are going before Planning and Zoning on Thursday, May 1: 1. Request by Sembler's Marina for the approval of the elevation and floor plans for the raw bar. 2. Keen's old grocery store for a medical facility - a dialysis center and doctor office. He noted that the property owner has agreed to give the City a scenic cascment for tl~ property east of Indian River Drive. He commented that this is a good example of maintmmng access to the riverfront, one of the goals of this Committee. He noted that a monument sign is proposed on the south side of the propexty. MEMBER ~.,TTERS: Mr. Bennett talked about an important matter of public comments to the e~5~ct that the Conmfi~ members are voicing personal choices on colors and other ideas for the riverfront. He noted that this Committee has been meaning for over a year, is comprised of a wide vaxi~,~ of busim~men and citizens of Sebastian, and ~ Committee wa~ designed to develop this plan and to' pre~nt it to City Council. He noted that since 1~ ha~ only seen on~ or two Council meml~rs at any of these m~tings, he hop~ that when the time cornea for pr~entation to City Council, they won't push these recommendations aside as somebody's personal opinion. He added that all Committee members have spent many hours diligently working to shape this plan, and hopes that it is not interpreted in any way, shape or form, az "somebody's personal opinion" as to what they want to see accomplished. The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 P.M. (5/1/97AB) City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET n SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 [] FAX (407) 589-5570 $1~BASTIAN RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE DAWN M. CORAPI, SECi~ETARY E. ANN BRACK, RECORDING SECRETA/~Y R~S.WP City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 [] FAX (407) 589-5570 AGENDA RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MONDAY, APRIL 28, 1997 7:00 P.M. 1. CALL TO ORDER. 2. ROLL CALL. 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Meeting of April 7, 1997 Meeting of April 14, 1997 4. ANNOUNCEMENTS. 5. OLD BUSINESS: Discuss Sign Ordinance. 6. NEW BUSINESS: Discuss proposed Riverfront District LandScape and Urban Codes. 7. PUBLIC COMMENT. 9. MEMBER MATTERS. 10. STAFF MATTERS. 11. ADJOURNMENT. Next Scheduled Meetings: · Monday May 12, 1997 ~ 7:00 · Monday May 19, 1997 ~ 7:00 ! ANY pERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTER~ WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT TEST~ BE Fi (28~0. IN C~ NEED ADA 4TIM RECORD OF TIIE PROCEEDI~VGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE MONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH APPEAL IS TO BE HEARD. SAID APPEAL MUST LED WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WITHIN ~ DAYS OF THE DATE oF ACTiO~ ~MPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO $ SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS FOR TI-HS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S 700RDINATOR AT (407)..589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 [] FAX (407) 589-5570 PUBLIC MEETING The Riverfront Committee of the City of Sebastian, Indian River County, Florida, will hold their regular meeting on Monday, April 28, 1997 at 7:00, in the City Council Chambers. Dawn M. Corapi, Secretary Riverfront Committee 2EIW NOTE: IF ANY PERSONS DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATFERS, HE/SHE MAY NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES, HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THaT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY iN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED. NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.