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RiVERFRONT COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, JUNE 9, 1997
Chairman Collins called the meeting to order at 7:02 P.M., and announced that this meeting will be
heard live over Channel 35, Falcon Cable's local access channel.
R L L__~O~.b__(~_~: PRESENT:
ALSO PRESENT:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION by MooredComrn
Chron. Collins Mr. Bennett
Mr. Smith Ms. Corum
Mr. Wild Mr. Thompson (a)
Mr. Moore Mr. Chapin
Robert Massarelli, Community Development Director
Traey Hass, Planner II
Ann Brack, Recording Secretary
I move to approve the minutes of the May 12th minutes, as written.
A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0 motion carried.
MOTION by Chapin/Wfld
I make a motion to approve the minutes of May 19, 1997.
A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0 motion earned.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: None
NEW BUSINESS:
DISCUSS RECOMMENDED PLAN OF ACTION FOR THE RIVERFRONT
Chrnn. Collins complemented Mr. Massarelli and staff on doing a nice job of summarizing the
Committee's work into the document for discussion tonight.
Mr. Massarelli stated that it is time for this Committee to try to bring some closure activities
that they have been working on. There are still many issues to be discussed, debated and
recommended. He noted that the draft document provided to the members tonight is a formatted
summary of issues already debated and temporarily labeled "Recommended Plan of Action".
These are very specific recommendations to be presented to City Council. He also noted that this
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is an "~tction plan" for City Council to carry out. He went on to analyze and explain the format of
this dr~tft document.
Mr. Mhssarelli then listed three items that' he would like to discuss tonight:
1. Name of document
2. Format
3. Goals
He not-,d that a City Council workshop for this document can't be held fill later in July, but this
Corem.tree needs to get it finalized as soon aa possible.
Chron. Collins commented that this is the first time anyone has seen this document, and
recorca tended that it needs to be gotten into the hands of as many of the public as possible for their
comments. He noted the importance of public input in this endeavor.
Mr. Maasarelli noted that a copy will be placed in the Library, and copies will be available in. the
CommUmty Development Department.
At this point, the name of the document was discussed, and all members liked it as it is.
The fo,'mat was then disenssed. All members agreed with the dra~ copy format, and mentioned
page
n~bers.tan , .
Tho g.0~s wore then discussed and comments and suggestions were made for wording changes and
correc~g typos.
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# 1: PRJ~SERVE THE C ..IzI~J~CTER OF THE RIVERFRONT AREA OF THE CITY
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section VI, key words suggested were: preserve and protect, village, community, rural
vision, and a better word for "low-rise".
ank Oberbeck, 601 Layport Drive .commented about the area included in the Riverfront
particularly U.S. 1 to the railroad track. Some of the misinformation that he had was
ed by Mr. Massarelli and the Committee members.
Collins also noted that this Committee has gone out of the way to try to keep from making
momic hardships for any of the businesses in this district.
Thomas noted that the work of this Committee has been at least - controversial. He
Ied that this document could be put to the public as' a referendum. Another possibility could
sk one of the newspapers to print it as a handout in a weekend edition. He then noted that
;s is a constituent part of this program.
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In response to a question from Mr. Chuck Neuberger, the Chairman responded that the Committee
has indeed investigated the history of the riverfront area, to the best of its abihty.
Vice Chron. Smith also went into an explanation of numerous considerations taken by the
Committee in developing the vision for the Riverfront District. He pointed out that the City has a
final chance to control the growth that will inevitably come to Sebastian, and to preserve the
Riverfront District in a positive manner. He noted a projected population increase in the near
future, and mentioned planning parklands for a larger population, not just for the present.
Ms. Corem pointed out that the Historical Society has had a great deal of input at the Riverfront
Committee meetings and has provided invaluable information.
Mr. Neuberger suggested getting into a better definition and description of the "character" of the
Riverfront Area.
Mr. Massarelli commented that this Committ~ is not trying to re-create an "Old Florida Fishing
Village". It is trying to preserve a certain character that artists down there.
Mr. Chapin noted that if we don't set some standards in place now, we may not have any say,
because of different developers, in the long nm, that will determine what the town will look like.
Mr. Wild noted that one reason the Riverfront District has not developed very quickly may be
because there was never water and sewer. Now that these two elements are in place, bigger
developments are feasible. He noted that it's time to do something like this because this is when
development will take off. People from south Florida come up every week and they tell him they
have got to get out of south Florida, and they are coming this way. He commented that if we don't
get prepared for them, they will take over andwe will have lost the opportunity.
Chnm. Collins suggested that Mr. Massarelli add another paragraph and tighten up on the Village
theme and stress it along with the sense of community.
~C.-OAL #2: MANAGE THE DEV~i. OPMENT ,OF THE R1VI~,RF. RONT AREA .OF ~ CITY
OF SEBASTIAN FOR THE ENJOYMENT ~qD BENEFIT OF ALL OF..THE RESIDENTS OF
SEBASTIAN
Ms. Corem suggested changing the word "manage" to "guide", in the heading for Goal 2.
Mr. Oberbeck spoke again and referred to a newspaper article that mentioned a "blighted" area in
conjunction with the establishment of a Community Redevelopment Agency.
Mr. Massarelli explained that that issue is not handled by this Committee, and it is a different issue
than what this Committee is charged with for the future of the Riverfront District.
There was discussion about '~tourism". Mr. Oberbeck suggested using the word visitor instead of
tourist.
It was then suggested to use the phrase "preserve and protect" the character...
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Mr. Freeland suggested that the first paragraph of Goal #2 read just fine if the second sentence is
dropped
GOAL #3: FOSTER ECONOMIC DEVELQ.P_MENT WITHIN THE RIVERFRONT .AREA
Chmn. 'Collins suggested adding wording to include "phasing in of changes" for established
properties.
David logan of 431 Citrus Avenue, Sebastian, commented on the height limitation in the section
desigm ted as TYPE III (Resort). He noted that at the last meeting, he understood the .height was to
be t~ver ty~five (25) fe~ both east and west of Indian River Drive in this area. He was not in favor
of this imitation as it would interfere with the plato he has for his property in this area.
Mr. ~ try Thomas suggested striking the word "economic" from the last sentence in the first
paragr~ ~h.
Vice C] mn. Smith commented that this Committee should not try to change the present building
height ~f thirty-five (35) fe~ on the west side of Indian River Drive. There was some discussion
on this ~ubject.
Vice Cl~nn. Smith suggested adding the word VISION after LEADERSFIIP.
Ms. C~mm mentioned that under Recommendation #3, third paragraph, the subject of colors is
missmgl This subject wa~ discussed at ler~h.
At this ~omt, Vice Chrun, Smith passed out copies of his list of"unresolved issues".
Mr. Massarelli suggested that he will make some recommendations on colors and if the Committee
doesn'tlagree with it, the issue can be sent to City Council as an unresolved issue. ( The same
tecl~.'q.~e could be done on building height.) He noted that because of the variety of opinions
pertaining to colors, it seems much easier to just describe what is not wanted.
Chnm. ~ollins noted the importance of getting this document in front of City Council, even with
unresolved issues on it.
Mr. M~ssarelli noted that several more meetings could be spent on the sign ordinance, colors,
parking~ etc., but he would like to get this report to City Council. and include a list of unresolved
issues.
Ms. Vi~gene Scherer of Futch Way spoke on the importance of public input on any unresolved
issues.
Mr. Robert Freeland spoke in favor of allowing mansard roofs.
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Mr. Massarelli explained a variation of the pitch roof that can be used, depending on the height of
the building.
Mr. Bennett spoke in favor of getting this report to City Council as soon as possible.
CHAIRMAN MATTERS:
Chron. Collins asked for an update on the sidewalk along Indian River Drive.
Mr. Massarelli responded that he has not received any additional information yet. He had received
the "next to last draft' for the CAV Corp property and the streetlighting on the river walkway. He
noted that he has a meeting with the Citizens Advisory Task Force on Monday, June 16, and will
be discussing street lighting and spacing, ere..
MEMBER MATTERS:
Ms. Corum commented that First Umon Bank between Indian River Drive and U.S, 1 had the
Pepper Trees cut down that were blocking the view of the fiver. She urged members to drop in and
complement them.
The next scheduled meeting is June 23, 1997, and there was discussion of having one on July 14,
1997~
STAFF MATTERS: None
Chnm. Collins adjourned the meeting at 8:59 P.M.
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RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MEETING
INPUT FOR UNRESOLVED ISSUES
* GUIDANCE PERTAINING TO ROOFS
-CURRENTLY WE HAVE A CONFLICT PERTAINING TO THE COMMITTEE'S DESIRE TO
HAVE PITCHED ROOFS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ADHERING TO THE 25f=/35ft
BUILDIN~ HEIGHT LIMITATION FOR POTENTIALLY LARGE PROJECTS.
- IT IS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT THE 'VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OF
SEBASTIAN SEE LOWER BUILDING HEIGHTS AS AN ABSOLUTE QUALITY OF THEIR
HOMETOWN VILLAGE. THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT FOR THE FISHING
VILLAGE THEME,BUT NOT AT THE COST OF SACRIFICING THE SMALL HOMETOWN CHARM
PROVIDED BY THE LOWER BUILDING HEIGHTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN EFFECT.
- BELIEVE THERE IS ONLY ONE REAL SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.REQUIRE PITCHED
ROOFS WHENEVER THEY ARE PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE WITHIN THE CURRENT
HEIGHT LIMITATIONS. WHENEVER IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE THEM,REQUIRE
AS MUCH PITCH AS pOSSIBLE(EVEN.IF THIS MEANS THE ROOFLINE WILL NOT BE
COMPLETE,IE.MANSARD ROOFS,25ft/35ft HEIGHT LIMITATI'ON REMAIN FIRM.)
-DO NOT BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEGISLATE"A PERFECT SOLUTION"
A VERY DETAILED STATEMENT OF INTENT SHOULD BE HELPFUL TO DEVELOPERS,CITY
PLANNERS,PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS,ETC.
* COLOR SCHEME FOR FISHING VILLAG~
- WE NEED TO PROVIDE MORE DEFINITIVE SUIDANCE TO THE COM%4UNITY
DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR ON COLOR SCHEME.
- AGAIN, THIS IS A TOPIC THAT HAS CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF FEEDBACK FROM
THE CITIZENS OF SEBASTIAN. W~AT I HEAR MOST OPTEN:"THIS IS NOT A GATED
COMMUNITY .... DO NOT MAKE THE POLICY OVERLY RESTRICTIVE." BELIEVE WE
ACHIEVED THE RIGHT BALANCE AT A RECENT MEETING WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE
METHODOLOGY OF INTENT, ENCOURAGED,D~..$COURAGED,AND PRQHI~ITED WITH THE
pROhiBiTED BEING A VERY SMALL CATEGORY.
*' INTENT~ TO USE COLORS THAT WILL SUPPORT THE THEME OF AN OLD FISHING
VILLAGE.
** ENCOURAGE: THE USE OF COLORS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TYPICALLY'USED IN AN
OLD FISHING VILLAGE IN THE LATTER PORTION OF THE PREVIOUS CENTURY AND
THE FIRST HALF OF THIS CENTURY. THIS WOULD INCLUDE WHITES, EARTHTONES,AND
SUBDUED GREYS. AS IMPORTANT AS COLORS ARE, THE PIGMENTS AND TONES USED
MAYBE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT. SOFTER, OLDER,SUBDUED,ANTIQUE LOOKING COLORS,
ARE PREFERRED OVER BRIGHTER,SHINEY,MORE MODERN LOOKING PIGMENTS.
**DI$COURAGE~ LOUD PASTEL COLORS: MODERN,BRIGHT, AND SHINEY PIGMENTS.
*-PROHIBIT: FLOURESCENT COLORS THAT CLEARLY VIOLATE THE THEME.(BETTER
LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT)
'SIGN ORDINANCES AND LANDSCAPING ORDINANCES-AGAIN T~ESE NEED TO BE
REVIEWED TO ENSURE WE HAVE INCORPORATED OUR INTENT,ENCOURAGE___.~D,
DISCOURAGE~,PROHiBITED METHODOLOGY. NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR SYSTEM OF
GRANDFATHERING IS FAIR TO ALL OF OUR'CITIZENS AND DOES NOT PROVIDE AN
UNREASONABLE FINANCIAL BURDEN.
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SEBASTIAN RiVERFRONTCOMMITTEE
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DONALD SMITH,
DAWN M. CORAPI/ SECRETARY
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AGENDA
RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE
MONDAY, JUNE 99 1997
7:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER.
2. ROLL CALL.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Monday May 12, 1997
Monday May 19, 1997
4. ANNOUNCEMENTS.
5. NEW BUSINESS:
Discuss recommended plan of action for the Riverfront.
6. PUBLIC COMMENT.
7. CHAIl2MAN MATTERS.
8. MEMBER MATTERS.
9. STAFF MATTERS.
10.ADJOURNMENT.
Next Scheduled Meetings?:
Monday June 23, 1997 @ 7:00
Monday July 28, 1997 @7:00
Monday August 11, 1997 @7:00
P001 Monday August 25, 1997 @7:00
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTL
WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A
VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE
TES77MONYAND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH APPEAL IS TO BE HEARD. SAID APPEAL MUST
BE FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THE DATE OF AC770N.
(286.0105 F.S)
IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABLLI77ES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO
NEEDS SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S
ADA COORDINATORAT (407)-589-5330AT LEAST 48 HOURSPRIOR TO THISMEETING.
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City of Sebastian
1225 MAIN STREET ❑ SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958
TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 ❑ FAX (407) 589-5570
PUBLIC MEETING
The Riverfront Committee of the City of Sebastian, Indian River County, Florida,
will hold their regular meeting on Monday, June 9, 1997 at 7:00, in the City
Council Chambers.
Dawn M. Corapi, Sec etary
Riverfront Committee
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NOTE: IF ANY PERSONS DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON
THE ABOVE MATTERS, HE/SHE MAY NEED A RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES, HE/SHE MAY NEED TO
ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE,
WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH
THE APPEAL IS BASED.
NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
(ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS
MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330
AT LEAST 48 HOURS INADVANCE OF THE MEETING.