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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10141996 RIVERCity of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET o SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 o FAX (407) 589-5570 RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING MONDAY OCTOBER 14, 1996 CHAIRMAN COLLINS CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 7:00 P.M. ROLL CALL: PRESENT: MR. COLLINS MR. SMITH MR. WILD MR. MOORE MR. CHAPIN MR. BENNETT MS. CORUM MR. THOMPSON (ALTERNATE) MR. KRULIKOWSKI (ALTERNATE) ALSO PRESENT: MR. BOB MASSARELLI, COMM. DEV. DIRECTOR DAWN CORAPI, SECRETARY APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 9, 1996. MR. COLLINS ENTERTAINED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MS. CORUM MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MR. MOORE SECONDED THE MOTION. THERE WAS A BRIEF DISCUSSION AS TO WHY THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WAS PULLED FROM THE LAST MEETING. A VOICE VOTE WAS TAKEN. �1 THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. * . v RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE PAGE TWO efta1 REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 14, 1996 MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 23, 1996. MR. COLLINS POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS A MISTAKE IN THE SCORING SCALE ON PAGE THREE AND EXPLAINED IT SHOULD READ. YES = 1 POINT MAYBE = 0 POINTS NO = —1 POINT HE SAID WITH THAT CORRECTION NOTED HE ENTERTAINED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MS. CORUM MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MR. WILD SECONDED THE MOTION. ANNOUNCEMENTS: MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT THE NEXT MEETING WAS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 28, 1996 TO DISCUSS MAINTAINING ACCESS TO THE RIVERFRONT. MR. MASSARELLI SUGGESTED HAVING THEIR NOVEMBER MEETINGS ON THE 4TH AND THE 25TH. MR. COLLINS SUGGESTED THAT FOR NOVEMBER THEY ONLY MEET ON THE 18TH. SOME OF THE REASONS DISCUSSED FOR NOT MEETING ON THE FOURTH WERE AS FOLLOWS: IT WOULD ONLY BE A WEEK AFTER THE LAST MEETING. THEY HAD AGREED IN THE PAST TO TRY NOT TO MEET THE FIRST MONDAY OF THE MONTH BECAUSE OF THE TREE ADVISORY BOARD THAT MEETS THAT NIGHT. A MAJOR PROPERTY OWNERS MEETING IS THAT NIGHT WHICH CONFLICTS WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND QUITE A FEW OF THE PUBLIC THAT NORMALLY ATTEND THEIR MEETINGS. MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT IF THEY JUST WANTED TO MEET NOVEMBER 18TH THEN THAT WAS FINE. THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO MEET ON OCTOBER 28TH AND NOVEMBER 18TH. THE COMMITTEE AGREED TO TENTATIVELY SCHEDULE THE DECEMBER MEETINGS FOR THE 9TH AND 16TH. MR. MASSARELLI AND MS. CORUM ANNOUNCED THAT THERE WOULD BE A PEPPER i*211N BUSTING DAY ON OCTOBER 24TH, 25TH, & 26TH ON THE RIVERFRONT AND THEY ENCOURAGED THE COMMITTEE TO PARTICIPATE. laml1 RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE PAGE THREE REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 14, 1996 OLD BUSINESS: FINALIZE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT. MR. MASSARELLI WENT OVER THE RIVERFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT ZONING AMENDMENT WITH THE CHANGES REFLECTING THE PRINCIPLES AND INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE. HE SAID THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY ADOPT IT AS A CONCEPT RECOMMEND IT UP TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN FURTHER THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NORMAL ORDINANCE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SOME ISSUES DISCUSSED WERE AS FOLLOWS: — MINIMUM & MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS — SET—BACK REQUIREMENTS — HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS — PARKING REQUIREMENTS MR. COLLINS SUGGESTED THAT THEY ADOPT THE SINGLE USE DISTRICT, LET MR. MASSARELLI GET THE PROCESS STARTED AND THEN AS IT MOVES THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND AS THEY MASSAGE IT THEY WILL BE AWARE OF IT AND THEN THEY COULD GIVE THEIR INPUT AT THAT TIME. HE SAID THEY DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING folk� AND CITY COUNCIL HAS. THERE WAS CONCERN AMONG THE MEMBERS TO THE SPECIFICS IN THE DOCUMENT. MR. MASSAERLLI SUGGESTED THAT THEY COULD LEAVE BLANK, FOR NOW, WHERE IT GAVE SPECIFICS ON THE SIZE AND DIMENSION CRITERIA. MS. CORUM INQUIRED ABOUT POSSIBLY KEEPING SOME AREAS ZONED RESIDENTIAL SO THEY WOULD HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WOULDN'T BE COMMERCIAL. MR. MASSARELLI SAID CURRENTLY THERE WAS NO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN THE RIVERFRONT AREA THEY WERE ALL COMMERCIAL. AFTER A LENGTHY DISCUSSION THE CONSENSUS AMONG THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS WAS THAT FOR THEM TO DICTATE AREAS TO BE ZONED RESIDENTIAL WOULD INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS. MR. COLLINS MADE A MOTION THAT THEY APPROVE THE RMU AS SUBMITTED ON THE DRAFT OF 10/11/96 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ITEMS D 1-8 BE LEFT IN BUT THE NUMBERS BE LEFT BLANK WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE INFORMATION WOULD BE PASSED ON TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FURTHER ACTION AND ALSO ADDING TO THE MOTION THAT MR. MASSARELLI KEEP THEM INFORMED OF ANY PROGRESS MADE ON IT, BUT THAT THEY APPROVE RMU SUBJECT TO THOSE (O "'1 CONDITIONS. MR. CHAPIN SECONDED THE MOTION. RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE PAGE FOUR REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 14, 1996 MR. SMITH CLARIFIED THAT THEIR INTENT WAS TO INFORM THE CITY COUNCIL, TO GET IT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WITH THE IDEA THAT THEY WOULD RETURN A PRODUCT BACK TO THEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. HE SAID BECAUSE HE REALLY THOUGHT WHAT WENT IN THE BLANKS WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEIR CHARTER AS TO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. A VOICE VOTE WAS TAKEN. THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. REVIEW RESULTS FROM THE 9/23/96 MEETING TO DETERMINE THE "LOOK OF THE RIVERFRONT". MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT THE RESPONSES FROM THE SLIDE SHOW WERE REALLY OUTSTANDING, IT OPENED HIS EYES TO THINGS THAT HE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT BEFORE AND IT WAS CERTAINLY A VERY POSITIVE WAY THAT THEY COULD NOW MOVE FORWARD AND WORK WITH THE ARCHITECTS IN COMING UP WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS. MR. MASSARELLI WENT OVER HIS METHOD OF RANKING THE SLIDES AND THE DIFFERENT WAYS THEY LOOKED AT THEM. AT THIS TIME MR. MASSARELLI WENT THROUGH THE SLIDES STARTING WITH THE HIGHEST RANKED SLIDE DOWN TO THE LOWEST RANKED SLIDE. AS HE WENT THROUGH THEM HE READ OFF SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE FOR EACH. MR. MASSARELLI SHOWED SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES THAT HE THOUGHT INCORPORATED A LOT OF THE POSITIVE COMMENTS MADE OF THE OTHER SLIDES. MR. COLLINS EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN THAT 99% OF THE SLIDES MR. MASSARELLI SHOWED WERE RESIDENTIAL. HE ASKED HIM IF HE DID ANY RESEARCH ON STRIP CENTERS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT THE COMMERCIAL PLACES THAT HE WAS ABLE TO FIND OR REFERENCES IN BOOKS USUALLY WENT TO ONE EXTREME EITHER TOO MODERN OR TOO ORNATE. HE SAID THEY DID TRY TO COLLECT PICTURES OF ONES AROUND TOWN THAT WERE BEING USES AS COMMERCIAL. HE SAID THAT THEY NEEDED TO ENCOURAGE THE TYPES OF FEATURES THAT WERE SEEN AS POSITIVE LIKE THE ROOF LINES, PORCHES, RAILINGS, COLUMNS AND LANDSCAPING TO GIVE IT THAT CHARACTER. MR. COLLINS EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN THAT THEY NEEDED TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT THE BUILDER AND DEVELOPER HAD TO FOLLOW THEY JUST COULDN'T ENCOURAGE THAT THEY DO PORCHES, FENCES ETC. ka 0 RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE PAGE FIVE REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 141: 1996 MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT WAS THE NEXT STEP. HE EXPLAINED THAT GOING THROUGH THE SUMMARY AND WHAT HE HAS SHOWN THEM THE PORCHES, LATTICE WORK, ROOF LINES, FENCES & LIGHT COLORS WERE CONSTANTLY BEING REPEATED AS BEING DESIRABLE FEATURES. HE SAID THAT WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO NEXT WAS TAKE THAT TO THE AIA SET UP A MEETING WITH THEM AT CITY HALL TO GO THROUGH THE SLIDE SHOW. THE AIA COULD THEN START DEVELOPING THE ORDINANCE AND THE LANGUAGE THAT THE ARCHITECTS AND DEVELOPERS COULD THEN USE IN DEVELOPING THEIR PROJECTS. MR. COLLINS ASKED MR. MASSARELLI IF IT WAS NECESSARY TO HAVE THE ARCHITECTS COME IN OR COULD HE & HIS STAFF JUST MEET WITH THEM. MR. MASSARELLI EXPLAINED THAT THE AIA WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT AS A PUBLIC MEETING TO GET THE PUBLIC INPUT AND GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. AT THIS TIME THE COMMITTEE MADE GENERAL COMMENTS. NEW BUSINESS: REVIEW ADDITIONAL PICTURES TO BE SUBMITTED AS POSSIBLE LOOKS FOR THE RIVERFRONT. THE PICTURES WERE PASSED AMONG THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND SOME GENERAL COMMENTS WERE MADE. PUBLIC COMMENT: NONE CHAIRMAN MATTERS: MR. COLLINS SUGGESTED, AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, THEY MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON SOME OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE DONE. MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THEM CONCERNING THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. MR. MASSARELLI SUGGESTED THEY MARE THEIR PRESENTATION NOVEMBER 13, 1996. MR. COLLINS INQUIRED ABOUT THE NEED FOR THEIR INPUT IF ANY REGARDING DEVELOPMENT OF THE CAV -CORP. PROPERTY. MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT ON TUESDAY OCTOBER 22ND AT 6:00 THE CITIZENS ADVISORY TASK FORCE WOULD BE HAVING A WORKSHOP TO DETERMINE THE DESIGN THEY WANT FOR THE PARKING LOT. RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 14, 1996 PAGE SIX HE SAID ONCE THAT GETS DONE AND THE ENGINEER GETS A PRELIMINARY DESIGN DONE THEN IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE APPROPRIATE TO BRING IT TO THEM AND GET THEIR BLESSING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FINALIZES ANYTHING. MEMBER MATTERS: MR. WILD COMMENTED ON THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT ISSUE AND REITERATED THAT IT WAS A BIG CONCERN AND AS A COMMITTEE THEY SHOULD ADDRESS IT AND GET IT SQUARED AWAY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. MR. MASSARELLI SUGGESTED THAT THEY COULD BRING THAT UP AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING. MS. CORUM SUGGESTED THAT THE COMMITTEE CONSIDER ADOPTING, AT SOME POINT, THE CONCEPT OF THE FLORIDA YARDS AND NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT THEY WOULD PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE FOR THEM OF THE INFORMATION CONCERNING THAT. HE SAID THAT HE SUPPORTED THE CONCEPT, BUT HE HAD A CONCERN ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT AND REGULATE THAT AND WHAT KIND OF BURDEN THAT WOULD PUT ON THE CITY. MR. SMITH READ OFF SOME COMMENTS THAT MR. PLISKA (A MEMBER OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION) WANTED TO EXPRESS TO THE COMMITTEE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN. MR. MOORE REITERATED THE NEED TO DISCUSS THE PARKING ISSUE. HE ALSO EXPRESSED HIS FEELING IF THEY FIXED UP SOME OF THE OLDER BUILDINGS IN TOWN THE TOWN WOULD BE ENHANCED. HE ALSO EXPRESSED HIS DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE TWO STORY BUILDING GOING UP ON THE EAST SIDE OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. HE STATED THAT HE THOUGHT IT WAS CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING THEIR COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT. • MR. BENNETT EXPRESSED HIS FEELINGS OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF HAE-N THAT MR. WILD PROVIDED TO THEM. HE SAID HE FELT THEY REPRESENTED A WARM OLD TOWN FEELING. HE SAID HE THOUGHT SEBASTIAN WAS MISSING THE FEELING OF A TOWN AREA, IN OTHER WORDS A MEETING PLACE OR A CENTER PLACE OF THE DOWNTOWN. MR. THOMPSON STATED HIS FEELING THAT THE MEMO OF SEPTEMBER 19, 1996 NEEDED TO COME BEFORE THEIR COMMITTEE FOR A CONCEPTION OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO DO WITH THOSE COMMENTS. HE EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN THAT THEY WOULD BE CONSTRUED AS THE COMMITTEES THOUGHTS AND NOT JUST MR. COLLINS'. IT WAS AGREED BY THE COMMITTEE THAT MR. COLLINS INTENTION WAS ONLY TO CONVEY TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN WRITING HIS FEELINGS BECAUSE HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE PRESENT AT THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 23, 1996. I RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE PAGE SEVEN REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 14, 1996 STAFF MATTERS: MR. MASSARRELLI ADVISED THE COMMITTEE THAT THERE HAD BEEN A PROPOSAL BY A TRAFFIC WATCH GROUP ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE TO HAVE THE COUNTY INSTALL A 60" X 30" SIGN 40 FT. OFF THE GROUND AT RIVERVIEW PARK THAT WOULD LIST THE FINES FOR SPEEDING ALONG INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. AFTER A BRIEF DISCUSSION MR. MASSARELLI SAID THAT HE WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BUT HE WOULD GO FORWARD AND RECOMMEND THAT IT NOT BE INSTALLED. MR. MASSARELLI ADVISED THE COMMITTEE OF VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING BEFORE P & Z AND THE CITY COUNCIL. ADJOURNMENT: MR. COLLINS ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 9:35. !d"h\ City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET o SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (561) 589-5330 o FAX (561) 589-5570 SEBASTIAN RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MINUTES OF MEETING HELD APPROVED AT MEETING HELD TAMAS H. COLLINS, CHAIRMAN ell AWN M. CORAPI, SECRETARY RCMAS.WP -11 w 4 City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET o SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 o FAX (407) 589-5570 AGENDA RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MONDAY OCTOBER 14, 1996 7:00 P.M. 1. CALL TO ORDER. 2. ROLL CALL. 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 9, 1996. MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 23, 1996. 4. ANNOUNCEMENTS. 5. OLD BUSINESS: FINALIZE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT. REVIEW RESULTS FROM THE 9/23/96 MEETING TO DETERMINE THE "LOOK OF THE RIVERFRONT". 6. NEW BUSINESS: REVIEW ADDITIONAL PICTURES TO BE SUBMITTED AS POSSIBLE LOOKS FOR THE RIVERFRONT. 7. PUBLIC COMMENT. 8. CHAIRMAN MATTERS. 9. MEMBERS MATTERS. 10. STAFF MATTERS. 11. ADJOURNMENT. IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT (407)-589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET o SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 o FAX (407) 589-5570 PUBLIC MEETING CITY OF SEBASTIAN 1225 MAIN STREET INDIAN RIVER COUNTY FLORIDA THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, WILL HOLD THEIR REGULAR MEETING ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 11, 1996 AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. AWN M. CO I, SEC ETARY RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE NOTE: IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTERS, HE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES, HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED. NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. /�'� RCPUBMTI . WP