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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11261990 RIVERRIVERFRONT COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 26, 1999 CHAIRMAN CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 7:00 P.M. PRESENT; MR. CHAPIN, MR. BRODIE, MR. JONES, MR. COLLINS, MR. KRULIKOWSKI, MRS. TRIPP, MRS, FOSTER, MR. CALVIN, MR. DILL ABSENT: NONE ALSO PRESENT: LINDA KINCHEN, SECRETARY ANNOUNCEMENTS: CHAIRMAN THANKS PRESS JOURNAL FOR THE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER TODAY AND WITH THE INTRODUCTION SHE PUT TOGETHER IT SAVED THE COMMITTEE ABOUT AN HOURS TIME TONIGHT ON OUR AGENDA. THE SECOND THING IS HE WANTS TO THANK THE SEBASTIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR GETTING THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACT AND FORM THE COMMITTEE. NEW BUSINESS: BEFORE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FEELS FORMALITIES NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. CHAIR RECOMMENDS A VICE CHAIRMAN NEEDS TO BE ELECTED, HOW OFTEN THE COMMITTEE WILL MEET NEEDS TO BE ESTABLISHED. MR. DILL NOMINATES PETER JONES CHAIRMAN NOMINATES ALLISON TRIPP - ALLISON DECLINES THE NOMINATION AND NOMINATES TOM COLLINS INSTEAD. TOM COLLINS DECLINES AND STATES HE FEELS PETER JONES WOULD BE BETTER CANDIDATE. CHAIRMAN NOMINATES ANN FOSTER. NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED VOICE VOTE TAKEN AS FOLLOWS: MR. JONES VOTES FOR MRS. FOSTER, MR. COLLINS VOTES FOR MR. JONES, MRS. TRIPP VOTES FOR MR. JONES, MRS. FOSTER VOTES FOR MR. JONES, MR. CALVIN VOTES FOR MR. JONES, MP,. DILL VOTES FOR MR. JONES AND CHAIRMAN KRULIKOWSKI VOTES FOR MRS. FOSTER - MR. JONES WINS THE VICE -CHAIR BY 5-2. ------------------------------------------------------------- CHAIR ASKS FOR SUGGESTIONS ON NUMBER OF MEETINGS PER MONTH MR. COLLINS FEELS TWO A MONTH SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT. AT THIS POINT DECEMBER 10TH IS CHOSEN FOR THE NEXT MEETING. DURING DECEMBER ONLY ONE MEETING WILL BE HELD BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS. MR. DILL QUESTIONS WHETHER TIMING IS A FACTOR AND IF IT IS A SENSE OF URGENCY. PETER JONES FEELS NEAR TERM ISSUES AND LONG TERM ISSUES SHOULD BE DEFINED. MR. BRODIE STATES HE HAS A COLORED GRAPHIC ILLUSTRATION OF THE DISTRICT FOR REVIEW AND ALSO A MAP HAND OUT. RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 26, 1990 PAGE TWO CHAIRMAN KRULIKOWSKI RECOMMENDS FIELD WORK ON SATURDAY TO WALK INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND ACTUALLY SEE WHAT IS OUT THERE. THE COMMITTEE FEELS IT IS A GOOD SUGGESTION. MR. JONES STATES AGAIN THAT HE FEELS FIRST RESPONSIBILITY IS TO DISCUSS AND DETERMINE BOUNDARIES AND HOW THE COMMITTEE WILL REPORT TO COUNCIL. PRIORITIES ARE: 1. OBTAINING INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. 2. PHASING (A) INDIAN RIVER DRIVE CITY LIMITS (B) U. S. #1 EXPANSION (C) NORTH AND SOUTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE CHAIRMAN STATES WITH REGARDS TO PARKING AREAS - THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR BANKS ALONG THAT STRETCH AND PERHAPS THE CITY CAN GET AN AGREEMENT TO BE ABLE TO USE THESE LOTS ON WEEKENDS AND OFF HOURS. BOUNDARIES ARE FIRST TO BE DISCUSSED THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS ON THIS SUBJECT AND AFTER MEMBERS HAVE MADE THERE COMMENTS THE CHAIR OPENS COMMENTS TO THE PUBLIC AT 7:55 P.M. MRS. SULLIVAN OF 1215 INDIAN RIVER DRIVE SPEAKS AND STATES CITY LIMITS AND RAILROAD TO RIVER IS BEST AND THE CITY NEEDS TO HIRE A FULL TIME GRANTS COORDINATOR TO GETTING FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT. RENS VANDEVOORDE STATES THAT HE OWNS PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF US#1 AND IS LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING INCLUDED WITH ENTHUSIASM BUT FEELS THAT US#1 WILL BE A MAJOR PROBLEM. NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. MR. DILL MADE A MOTION THAT THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES OF THE AREA THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW BE LIMITED TO THE CITY LIMITS AS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH BOUNDARIES AND BE LIMITED TO THE INDIAN RIVER AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS AS ITS EAST WEST BOUNDARIES. SECOND MR. COLLINS. MR. COLLINS ASKS IF IT MAKES ANY SENSE TO ADD A PROVISO THAT EXPANSION CAN BE DONE AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE. MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. --------------------------------------------------------------- MR. COLLINS FEELS THE NEXT STEP IS A DEADLINE - SHOULD REPORTS BE MADE BIWEEKLY TO COUNCIL OR 3 OR 6 MONTH PRESENTATIONS FOR FINAL DRAFTS. RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 26, 1990 PAGE THREE MR. DILL. SUGGESTS THAT MINUTES OF THE MEETING CAN BE SUPPLIED TO THE COUNCIL AS COMPLETED AND RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMITTEE TRY TO BE DONE BY MARCH ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE GOING TO ASK THEM TO PROHIBIT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. A MOTION TO SCHEDULE THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH AS CITY COUNCIL DEADLINE AND THAT MINUTES BE SUPPLIED TO INVITE COMMENTS AND KEEP THE COUNCIL ADVISED. MADE BY MR. COLLINS SECOND MR. DILL MRS. FOSTER ASKS HOW WE CAN GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL, IT IS SUGGESTED THAT WE CAN MAKE A MONTHLY PRESENTATION MR. COLLINS SO AMENDS HIS MOTION TO INCLUDE PROVIDING A MONTHLY PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL FOR FEEDBACK UNDER DISCUSSION MR. DILL SUGGESTS AT SOME TIME WE SHOULD ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADVISE THE COUNTY COMMISSION OF WHAT IS HAPPENING BUT NOT UNTIL WE HAVE SOMETHING DEFINED. MR. COLLINS SAYS WE DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL ASK THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND SINCE THEY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THEM IN DECEMBER MAYBE THIS EVENING THE COMMITTEE COULD GIVE THE COUNCIL SOME DIRECTION ON THEIR FEELINGS. ROLL CALL ON THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. --------------------------------------------------------------- TO GET THINGS MOVING ALONG AND AS LONG AS EVERYONE WAS IN FAVOR OF MEETING AND WALKING INDIAN RIVER DRIVE THE CHAIRMAN ASKS WHAT THE FEELINGS ARE TO DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. MRS. TRIPP ASKS IF WE ARE GOING TO DIVIDE UP IN VARIOUS AREAS OF EXPERTISE. SHE 'FEELS IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE A PACKAGE IN HAND DURING THE WALK. SHE IS VOLUNTEERING TO PUT THE PACKAGES TOGETHER AS LONG AS IT IS NOT THIS WEEKEND, SHE FEELS A LITTLE MORE TIME IS NEEDED. IT IS DETERMINED THAT SATURDAY IS MORE PREFERABLE THEN A SUNDAY. SATURDAY DECEMBER 8TH IS MENTIONED AND MRS. TRIPP STATES SHE CAN BE READY FOR THAT DATE. MR. DILL WILL BE OUT OF TOWN BUT FEELS WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT HIM - TO MEET AT 9 A.M. AT CAPTAIN HIRAM'S, MR. COLLINS SUGGESTS WE ENCOURAGE CITY TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY TO GET CONTROL OF THE STREET WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND IF THEY ARE WORKING THAT QUICKLY ON IT, I THINK THE COUNTY COMMISSION WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE FORMED THIS COMMITTEE NUMBER ONE AND THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY MOVING FORWARD AND THAT MAYBE WE SEND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION VIA OUR COUNCIL INDICATIONS THAT WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ENTERING NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM TO GET RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 26, 1990 PAGE FOUR CONTROL OF THE STREET AND THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR COMMITTEE AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE IDEA THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO MEET WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION REGARDING THIS ISSUE, WE COULD JUST REDUCE IT TO SOME FORM OF A MOTION THAT WE ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE GET CONTROL OF THAT STREET. CHAIR ASKS IF THAT IS A MOTION AND MR. COLLINS STATES YES IT CAN BE A MOTION - SECOND MR. DILL UNDER DISCUSSION MR. JONES FEELS THE MOTION BE PUT IN THE FORM OF LETTER FROM THE COMMITTEE TO THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR THEIR NEXT PACKET WITH A COPY TO THE COMMISSIONERS, PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. -------------------------------------------------------------- BREAK CALLED AT 8:25 P.M. MR. COLLINS IS CALLED AWAY DURING THE BREAK AND LEAVES AT 8:30 P.M. CALLED BACK TO ORDER AT 8:35 P.M. - MR. COLLINS IS ABSENT AND MR. BRODIE WILL VOTE IN HIS PLACE FROM NOW ON. IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT CHARLIE SEMBLER THE NEWLY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP US OBTAIN NECESSARY GRANT INFORMATION AND HELP US IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE. ALSO MR WHITERBY OF SEBASTIAN AND RANDY MOSBY, ENGINEER HAVE BOTH INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER THEIR ASSISTANCE IN ANYWAY POSSIBLE. DISCUSSION TURNS TO A POSSIBLE MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT UNTIL THE DISTRICT IS FORMED AND FINALIZED. CHAIRMAN STATES IF THIS IS PROPOSED A DIFFERENT PHRASE SHOULD BE USED AND WHAT THE INTENT OF THE MORATORIUM MIGHT BE IS NOT TO TOTALLY STOP DEVELOPMENT - THE STOP GAP WOULD BE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO JUST COME IN AND PUT UP FOUR WALLS - THEY WOULD BE STOPPED. MR. DILL FEELS IT CAN NOT BE SELECTIVE OR DISCRETIONARY IN NATURE. PETER JONES FEELS THAT WITH THE ECONOMY BEING WHAT IT IS AND WITH LARGE DEVELOPMENTS TAKING TIME TO GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, A MORATORIUM IS NOT NECESSARY. ALLISON TRIPP AGREES, AS A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER SHE STATES CONTRACTS USUALLY TAKE 120 DAYS BEFORE ANY THING BEGINS AND INQUIRIES ARE MADE SO IF WE STICK TO OUR TIME SCHEDULE THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM. SHE STATES SHE FEELS THE PUBLIC IS IN FAVOR OF OUR PLANS AND THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS SO DEVELOPMENT NEED NOT BE CURTAILED. THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMITTEE IS THE SAME ALONG THESE LINES. MR. THOMPSON OF 125 MAIN STREETS SPEAKS AND FEELS THAT THE COMMITTEE IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND SHOULD CONTINUE TO MOVE ALONG. r"� RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 26, 1990 PAGE FIVE PETER JONES RELAYS TWO ITEMS WHICH MR. COLLINS DID NOT GET TO DUE TO HIS NECESSITY TO LEAVE ONE BEING THAT THE COMMITTEE HAVE SOMEONE MAKE SOME INQUIRIES TO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED SIMILAR TYPES OF GUIDELINES FOR WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT AREAS, WE MAY CONSIDER BOTH WATERFRONT AND NON - WATERFRONT AREAS - ANOTHER POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP PER THE CHAIRMAN WAS AS TO A NAME FOR THE DISTRICT RATHER THEN TO CALL IT THE RIVERFRONT - ANY THOUGHTS ALONG THESE LINES SHOULD BE BROUGHT OUT NOW. MR. DILL SAYS IT MIGHT BE NICE TO ZERO IN ON THE HISTORICAL ASPECT AND PICK A NAME FROM THERE -- IT STARTED OUT AS A FISHING VILLAGE SAYS MR. CHAPIN MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. MRS. TRIPP STATES DOES THIS HAVE TO BE DECIDED TONIGHT - MR. VANDEVOORDE SPEAKS AND INDICATES THAT THE PUBLIC IS MORE CONCERNED WITH THINGS SUCH AS THE LAND USE CONTROLS, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS, LANDSCAPING AND THE MAIN REGULATIONS THEY DON'T PARTICULARLY AT THIS TIME CARE ABOUT THE NAME OF THE DISTRICT. FEELS THE COMMITTEE SHOULD PRIORITIZE AND SET TIME FRAMES FOR DISCUSSION SO THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC KNOW WHEN TO COME TO SPEAK, ON CERTAIN ASPECTS. MR. JONES FEELS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WILL BE COVERED WILL BE ENVIRONMENTAL, UTILITIES, PARKING, LANDSCAPING, BUILDING HEIGHTS, GRANTS AND SOMEHOW GET AN IDEA OF WHAT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE AND WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY AND CONSTRAINTS MIGHT BE. CHAIRMAN GOES BACK TO A NAME FOR THE RIVERFRONT WHAT IS THE FEELING ABOUT A CONTEST TO NAME THE DISTRICT. MRS. FOSTER STATES SHE IS A SCHOOL TEACHER AND SHE HAS FOUND BOYS AND GIRLS VERY CREATIVE IN THINKING UP NAMES. CHAIR ASKS IF IT SHOULD BE OPENED UP TO THE GENERAL RESIDENTS. ALLISON STATES THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORICAL VALUE HERE AND IT SHOULD ALL BE CONSIDERED PERHAPS CORA SADLER COULD BE CONSULTED. MR. BRODIE SUGGESTS ONE SUNDAY BE SET ASIDE WITH NO TRAFFIC AND BUSINESSES HELPING TO BRING IN THE CHRISTMAS SEASON AND INTERVIEW PEOPLE WITH A VIDEO CAMERA AND GET THE RESIDENTS INVOLVED IN NAMING THE DISTRICT, OR GIVE US .IDEAS FOR ITS CONCEPTION. MR. DILL SAYS MAYBE WE CAN GET A NICE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE TO REQUEST THE PUBLIC TO SEND US A NAME BY MAIL, MR. DILL FEELS A DESIGN THEME SHOULD BE THE NEXT ISSUE OF DISCUSSION WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WHARFY, BRICK Y, HE HAS NO PRECONCEIVED IDEAS AT THIS TIME. HE HAS HEARD OLD FLORIDA TERM AND KEY WEST STYLE BUT FEELS IT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THE NIGHT IS OVER. RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 20, '1990 PAGE SIX THIS WILL GIVE US SOME KIND OF VISUAL CONCEPT FOR DESIGN GUIDELINES AND WHAT IT NEEDS IS A ZONING DISTRICT WITH ITS OWN DESIGN CRITERIA AND THE REGULATIONS SHOULD ADDRESS THINGS LIKE HEIGHT, PEDESTRIAN PATHS, MATERIALS, COLORS, LANDSCAPING SIZE, WIDTH, PARKING. THIS WILL ELIMINATE GOING ALL OVER THE CODE AND IT SHOULD CONTAIN SOME GRAPHICS FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DISTRICT IS LOOKING FOR. FEELS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED AS TO WHAT THE AREA IS TO LOOK LIKE. CHAIRMAN FEELS THE BASIC THEME IS THERE -- PETER FEELS THAT IT IS PREMATURE TO DETERMINE BRICKY OR WOOD FRAME OR OTHER MATERIALS AT THIS TIME. HE WOULD BE WILLING TO !MAKE SOME OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSTRAINTS GRAPHICS FOR THIS AREA FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE NEXT MEETING, AND NOT TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A THEME TONIGHT, CHAIRMAN ASKS PETER WHAT THE OTHER ITEM IS THAT MR. COLLINS LEFT FOR DISCUSSION. A LETTER WAS RECEIVED FROM THE CITRUS BANK STATING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DONATE $1000 FOR A NEWSLETTER TO KEEP THE PUBLIC INFORMED OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE DISTRICT. PETER READS THE LETTER INTO THE RECORD. MR. COLLINS STATED A PERSON IN HIS OFFICE WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT THE NEWSLETTER TOGETHER. MR. DON RISMYER SPEAKS AND TELLS THE COMMISSION THAT THREE GRANTS COME TO MIND WHICH WOULD BE AVAILABLE AND HE WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPLY ALL THE INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW. DISCUSSION TURNS TO THE AGENDA FOR THE DECEMBER "10TH MEETING OPPORTUNITIES AND CONSTRAINTS WOULD BE ITEM MR. DILL SUGGESTS THE NAME SHOULD BE ON EVERY AGENDA UNTIL DECIDED. CHAIRMAN REQUESTS THAT A LETTER TO CHARLIE SEMBLER BE SENT THANKING HIM FOR HIS OFFER TO HELP WITH GRANTS. MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 9:35 P.M. Prepared by Linda KInchen, Secretary Approved at December 10, 1990 meeting. I C. City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 ❑ SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 ❑ FAX (407) 589-5570 PUBLIC NOTICE CITY OF SEBASTIAN 1225 MAIN STREET INDIAN RIVER COUNTY SEBASTIAN,FLORDIA THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, WILL HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING ON SATURDAY DECEMBER 8TH, 1000 AT 9:00 A.M. STARTING AT CAPTAIN HIRAM'S INLET MARINA FOR COFFEE AND THEN A FIELD INSPECTION OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE WILL BE HELD BY WALKING THE CITY LIMITS, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA. s eolok. City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 ❑ SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 ❑ FAX (407) 589-5570 RIVERFRONT STUDY COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING AGENDA NOVEMBER 26, 1990 CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL ANNOUNCEMENTS INTRODUCTIONS BY MEMBERS: OLD BUSINESS: NONE NEW BUSINESS: DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RIVERFRONT DISTRICT ADJOURN NOTE: IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTERS, HE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS MADE. City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 ❑ SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 ❑ FAX (407) 589-5570 PUBLIC NOTICE CITY OF SEBASTIAN 1225 MAIN STREET INDIAN RIVER COUNTY SEBASTIAN,FLORDIA THE RIVERFRONT STUDY COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, WILL HOLD A REGULAR MEETING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 1990 AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA.