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RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, 1996
Chairman Collins called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL: PRESENT: Chmn. Collins
Mr. Smith
Mr. Wild
Mr. Moore
Mr. Bennett
Ms. Corum
Mr. Thompson
EXCUSED ABSENCE: Mr.
UNEXCUSED ABSENCE: Mr.
Krulikowski
ALSO PRESENT: Mr. Massarelli, Community Development Director
Ann Braek, Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Me~Y6ng of October 28, 1996
Mr. Collins noted a change on page five (5) of the October 28 minutes:
Insert "of the AIA" after the word chair.
Chnm. Collins asked for a motion to approve the 10/28/96 minutes as amended.
MOTION by Thompson/Wild
I so move. ,
A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0 motion carried.
Meeting of November 18, 1996
Mr. Moore noted a change on page three (3) of the November 18 minutes: In reference to
the motion on "Recommendations for Maintaining Access to the Riverfront", the vote
should have shown - Mr. Moore - No, Mr~ Chapin - Yes.
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I move to approve the minutes of November 18, 1996 as amended.
~ vote was taken, 7 - 0 motion carried.
~UNCEMENTS:
Coffins mentioned the dates of the forthcoming meetings and there was some discussion.
~ermined that the next meetings will be:
~ber 16, 1996 January 13, 1997 January 27, 1997
with a ~vorkshop meeting with AIA when Mr, ~lli can schedule it.
Mr. Massarelli noted that AIA wants some input from this Committee and the public m the
morning, then have a brain session in the a_etemoon. He met with a couple of the member, went
over th" ~ slides and comments, and they want to discuss these in the morning, then brainstorm in'the
ai~m~ on and make some recommendations.
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I move that our next regular meetings be Docember 16, January 13 and January 27.
vote was taken. 7-0 motion carried.
~sarelli announced that thc Tree Advisory Board is sponsoring an Arbor Day Celebration
ay Janua~ 17, 1997 at 1:00 P.M. It will be held at Riverview Park and will coincide with
mt:the Riverfront Committee is doing, as well as the Citizen's Advisory Task Force, and thc
and tree planting at the CAV-CORP property.
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kNGES FOR MAINTAINING ACCESS TO THE R1VERFRONT
Mr. Massarelli noted some changes on the list of recommendations that the Committee had
decided upon at the last meeting. He distributed thc updated list to all members. He also
recommended that the size'of properties that the City should be interested in acquiring be
changed to 75 feet. At this point, be noted that staff recommends approval of the
Recommendations of Aceess to the Riveffront.
Them was much discussion on the issues of setback distances and the taking of peopl(s
property.
Mr. MassareHi noted that there is no uniform system of setback distances at this time, and
that was staff's goal.
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Mr. Collins suggested that the setback distances as recommended would be severely
restrictive to the property owners along Indian River Drive. Since Ms. Ruth Sullivan was
in the audience and is a property owner along Indian River Drive, Mr. Collins asked her
about the size of her property East of Indian River Drive. She noted that owners have
been paying taxes on buildable lots for many years and if the setbacks are too restrictive as
to make them unbuildable, there could be a problem.
Mr. Moore asked that in item #6 of the Recommendations list, that Mr. Massarelli add
"and walls" afar the word "fences".
Mr. Wild suggested lessening the rear setback to keep some lots builda~le. He noted that
once a structure is built on a waterfront lot, the viewis, already obstmcted;
Mr. Massarelli noted that one of the purposes of the rear setback is for environmental
reasons to protect the waterline, and this is very important for preservation of'the river.
Mr. Thompson noted that one of the main purposes of this Committee is to try to keep the
riverfront open as much as possible. He is in favor of the 30' front and 25' rear setbacks.
Mr. Bennett agreed with Mr. Thompson's view.
Ms. Virgine Scherer who lives on Fntch Way, commented that the 30' and 25' setbacks
would accomplish the Committee's desire to keep the East side of Indian River Drive for
view to the fiver.
Ms. Ruth Sullivan, 1215 Indian River Dfive, President of the Indian River Property
Owners Assoc. spoke of first hand knowledge in looking at the setbacks. She does not
want the value of her property East of Indian River destroyed if it becomes unbuildable.
-. : She noted.that there are very limited pieces of property that.are buildable, and a great deal
of property that is already non-buildable along the river.
The numerous unbuildable properties will continue to give us more good views of the fiver
than most other communities. Owners of these properties pay a lower ta~ ram because of
that. She feels that if these setbacks make some properties unbuildable, then it constitutes
a '~king of property", and noted that the Supreme Court has declared that illegal. She
suggested that if the City of Sebastian remains reasonable in looking at property that had
always been considered buildable by County standards, you won't go too far wrong.
Mr. Tut Connolly of 149 Kildare Drive recommended using the word "prohibit" in items
#5 and #6 of the Recommendations list. He also called attention to the Sebastian Trailer
Park which will come into reality in the future.
At this Point Mr. Collins asked about the logic in limiting the size of properties along the
riverfront that would be of interest to the City for acquisition, to 75 feet.
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Mr. Massarelli responded that larger parcels with significant depth would have greater
impact than a small piece.
Ms. Corum.noted that she would like to see item #6 use the word "prohibit" in reference to
opaque walls along Indian River DriVe.
Mr. Massarelli noted that variances are always a possibility. He also .agreed with using the
word "prohibit" at this point, then as the Committee goes along, it can be fine-tuned with
suggested variances, otc.
Types and sizes of fences, wails, otc. were discussed.
N by Collins/Moore
I make a motion that we approve the "Access to the Riverfront Recommeodations" of the
Riverfront Advisory Committee that was tumded out by Bob, with the change that the City
should prohibit the use o£ stockade fences and walls in excess of three (3) fe~t high, east of
[Indian River Drive, with the ~ that the property owner would have .the right to
oO, to the variance Board to obtain an exemption to build a higher fence in appropriute
cases. (Please see below for the final wording of this motion.)
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Mr. Wild noted taking a stand on the issue of "discourage" or "prohibit" in reference to
removing exotic vegetation in item #~.
Mr. Massarelli noted that presently, the City prohibits the intentional planting of exotics
and at the time of new construction, all exotics must be removed from the site. He also
noted that this Committee may rocOnunend to City Council that the City get involved in
helping to clear out established exotiCS, even on private property. He suggested asking the
City to "participate" in the removal of these exotics.
Mr. Collins suggested wording such as '°The City should encourage and participate m the
removal of...." (exotics).
Mr. Wild suggested changing the setbacks to 2~' from the front and 10' f~om the.back.
Mr. Massarelli mentioned that another way to approach this is to provide, within the Code,
fl~at the City Council may grant a waiver to this requirement to another minimum, if there
is an impractical or ~nable taking of the land. This is already in the OMC Code.
Mr. Collins suggested that a variance could be available to a mimmum setback of 15 feet.
He amended his motion to have #2- "allow for the ability for the property owner to
~btain City Council approval wherein the frontyard setback and the rear yard
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setback could be reduced to a minimum of fifteen (15) feet in each instance, based on
criteria that staff would put together.
Mr. Smith felt that it is important to include some mention of the "unreasonable taking of
the land" as a result of setbacks.
Mr. Massarelli read several sections of the Code to clarify points about setbacks, variance
by Board of Adjustment, .and exceptions granted by City Council.
Mr. Collins suggested leaving Item #2 as it is and recommend variance not through City
Council but through the Board of Adjustment. He suggested the following addition to Item
#2 "that a vm'iance for a unique situation be available".
He referred to amending his motion to: (Item ~6) prohibit the use of stockade fences
and walls in excess of three (3) feet high with the variance ability, and we would add
the variance ability to item #2.
Mr. Collins also add~ to the mo0on '~here it would result in unreasonable taking of
the land".
MOTION by Collins/Moore
I make a motion that we approve the "Access to the Riverfront Recommendations" of the
Riverfront Advisory Committee that was handed out by Bob, with the change that the City should
prohibit the use of stockade fences and walls in excess of three (3)feet high with the ability to
apply for a variance from the Board of Adjustment, and, where it would result in unreasonable
taking of the land, allow for the ability of the property owner to obtain City Council approval
wherein the frontyard setback and the rear yard setback could be reduced to a minimum of fiReen
(15) feet in each instance, based on critoria that staffwould put together.
A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0 motion carried.
2. DISCUSS HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS
Mr. Massarelli noted that the staff is looki,g for some guidance in what the intent of the
Committee is in dealing with the height msmctions. He listed many reasons for wanting to
resmct the height of buildings in the riverfront area as a reminder of issues discussed at
previous meetings.
He also note~i that the current building heizht in the entire Cj~..of Sebastian is 3.5_f_eet.
Mr. Collins hotel that there is no allowance in the Code for peak roofs, sloping roofs, otc.,
and it almost encourages fiat roof design which is something we are not encouraging. He
also mentioned that in some codes, the higher the building, the greater the setbacks which
provide more open space and greater view.
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Fhcre was much discussion on this height issue. There were suggestions of 25 feet on the
~.ast side and 35 fe~t on the West side of Indian River Drive. Other suggestions were to
timk the buildings to thr~ (3) stori~; requir~ a specific roof pitch; allow a little bit of
flexibility in.the architectural design, of the roofline to keep within the Old Fishing Village
Mr. Collins suggested looking at somo ordimmces from other cities with a similar
~aterfront area. It was also determined to 8e~ mpu~ from the AIA in a work~op meeting.
Ms. Sullivan suggested stating the number of stories and having 25 ii. height to the East,
md 35 ff. height to tho w~st of Indian River Drive. She noted that we have a small town
unbiance and we need to be ~ of~ buildings. She also noted the Davis house as
~eing a perfect e~ample ofgood building in keying with the Old Fishing Village theme.
Mr. Harry Thomas spoke in favor of 25 feet on East side and 35 f~ on West side of
Indian River Drive, and noted that the~ was nothing to preyer propm~ owners fi*om
~uilding over the water on piUngs and using erea~ivc archi~'ure.
Ms. Scherrer spoke in favor of one story on East side and two stories on West side, which
~ouid allow good roof lines, wi'th the number of stories being specified in the Code. Taller
~uildings could be allowed on U.S. 1 which would allow a view of river over the lower
~uildings to the East. She also spoke against flat roofs.
d item on tonight's agenda, City Owngd Parcels Along Main Street, was postponed till the
~sarelli noted that he has a preity good understanding of what the Commit'ge warns to
md we will work with the AIA.
Ms. Corum announced that th~ will be "Pepper Bashing" this Friday~ Dec. 13, 1996
mu'ting at 7:30 A.M. umil 3:00 P.M. at the riverfi'ont and any help would be appreciated.
MATTEl~; Non~
was adjourned at 9:03 P.M.
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1225 MAIN STREET u SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958
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AGENDA
RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE
MONDAY DECEMBER 9, 1996
7:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER.
2. ROLL CALL.
3. APPROVAL OF MZNU~ES:
MEETING OF OCTOBER 28, 1996.
MEETING OF NOVEMBER 18, 1996.
4. ANNOUNCEMENTS.
5 · OLD BUSZNESS:
DISCUSS RECOMMENDED CHANGES FOR MAINTAINING ACCESS TO THE
RiVERFRONT.
DISCUSS HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
DISCUSS CITY OWNED PARCELS ALONG MAIN STREET.
6. PUBLIC COMMENT ·
7. CHAIRMAN MATTERS.
8. MEMBERS MATTERS.
9. STAFF MATTERS.
10. ADJOURNMENT.
NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING:
MONDAY DECEMBER 16, 1996 AT 7:00
City of Sebastian
1225 MAIN STREET [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958
TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 [] FAX (407) 589-5570
PUBLIC MEETING
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
1225 MAIN STREET
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
FLORIDA
THE RXVERFRONT CX)MMXTTEE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER
COUNTY, FLORIDA, WILL HOLD THEIR REGULAR MEETING ON MONDAY,
DECEMBER 9, 1996 &T 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
DAWN M. COP, A~I, SECRETARY
RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE
NOTE: IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE
ABOVE MATTERS, HE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND
FOR SUCH PURPOSES, HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD
OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN
EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED.
NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
(ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING
SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST 48
HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
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