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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES MARCH 8, 1990 CHAIRMAN KRULIKOWSKI CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 7:00 P.M. PRESENT; MR. THOMPSON, MR, MAHONEY, MR. FULLER-T-ON, MR. SHROYER, MRS, KILKELLY, K..RULIKOWSKI, MR. ABSENT; MRS. TAYLOR, EXCUSED, MR. WADSWORTH, EXCUSED MR. LINDSEY ALSO PRESENT: MR. COOPER, MR. JONES, AND LINDA KINCHEN ANNOUNCEMENTS; NONE APPROVAL OF MINLITES; NONE OLD BtJSINESS; ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD DISCUSSION MR, THOMPSON STARTS THE DISCUSSION BY CITING A CHANGE TO PAGE 2 UNDER MEMBERS AND REQUESTS THAT' THE WORD LANDSCAPE BE ADDED BEFORE EACH CATEGORY MR. THOMPSON STA'T'ES THAT R-89-]3 DOES NOT REQUIRE BOARD MEMBERS TO BE RESIDENTS HOWEVER, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES REOUIRE PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS TO BE RESIDENTS. MR. KRULIKOWSKI STATES HE FEELS THEY SHOULD BE RESIDENTS OF SEBASTIAN OR THREE OR MORE YEAR BUSINESS OWNERS IN SEBASTIAN, MRS. KILKELLY FEELS THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS SHOULD BE RESIDENTS BUT STATES THE POSITIONS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO BE FILLED IF THEY ALL MUST BE CITY RESIDENTS. ON PAGE FIVE PER MR. 'THOMPSON 3.2.2 PARAGRAPH 4 WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME EXAMPLES ADDED TO MAKE THE PARAGRAPH MORE COMPLETE. MR. SHROYER STATES HE DOES NO'/ AGREE WITH THE SECOND SENTENCE IN THIS SECTION. MR. THOMPSON STATES THE FIFTH PARAGRAPH SHOULD SAY WHEN POSSIBLE. SECTION 3.2.3 SHOULD HAVE A 6 FT FENCE LIMIT PER MR. THOMPSON MR. THOMPSON FEELS THAT UNDERGROUND UTILITIES SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED. MRS. KILKELLY RECOMMENDS THAT 'THE WORD SHALL BE CHANGED TO SHOULD ON PAGE 6, FIRST PARAGRAPH, 5.2.4 SCREENING .... FENCE ONLY TO RESIDENTIAL. STATES LDC ON PAGE 650-651-652 WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING MINU~ES MARCH 8, 1990 PAOE TWO MR. FULLERTON FEELS SECTION 2,2 SHOULD REQUIRE THAT THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE-CHAIRMAN BE CITY RESIDENTS AND QUESTIONS 'THE TERM OF MEMBERSHIP FOR THIS BOARD. ON PAGE THREE MR, MAHONEY STATES THAT PARAGRAPH ~ SHOULD BE CHANGED OR REMOVED. ON PAGE TWO MR, KRULIKOWSKI CONCURS WITH MR. THOMPSON REGARDING THE MEMBERSHIP REQtJIREMENTS, STATES HE FEELS 2.3.'1 SHOULD HAVE ESTABLISHED MEETING TINES NOT WHEN NECESSARY. PAGE THREE SECOND SENTENCE - ALL BOARD MEETINGS SHALL BE PUBLIC. IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH ADD CHAIRMAN OR VICE CHAIRMAN OF PLANNING AND ZONING. 5.2.1 THIRD PARAGRAPH STATES SHOULD READ LOOK A LIKE BLDGS ARE ENCOURAGED. PAGE FIVE LAST PARAGRAPH OVERALL APPEARANCE WAS DISCUSSED. PAGE EIGHT 3RD PARAGRAPH THE WORDS OWNER OR LESSEE SHOULD BE ADDED, BRUCE STATES CODE ENFORCEMENT USUALLY SITES THE OWNER HR. KR~JLIKOWSKI AGREES THAT THIS CHANGE CAN BE LEFT OFF IN VIEW OF BRUCE'S COMMENTS. CHAIRMAN KRULtKOWSKI NOW OPENS THE MEETING TO THE PUBLIC FOR COMMENTS DR. HENRY FISCHER SPEAKS ON THE PROPOSED BOARD AND STATES HE HAS THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS. ON PAGE THREE IN THE SECOND TO THE LAST PARAGRAPH CHAIRMAN OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND THE LAST PARAGRAPH SHOULD BE CHAIRMAN OF PLANNING AND ZONING AS L_DC READS NOW, HE FEELS THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD SHOULD NOT HAVE VETO POWER - PETER TRIES TO EXPLAIN THAT HE WILL NOT HAVE SUCH POWER THAT IT TAKES UNANIMOUS APPROVAL BY ALL THREE PEOPLE FOR CHANGES TO OCCUR. ON PAGE FOUR IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH HE FEELS THAT THE WORDS CONDITIONS MAY BE APPLIED NEEDS TO BE REWORDED. MR, THOMPSON STATES THAT IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH FIRST SENTENCE ON PAGE 4 WORDING SHOULD BE CHANGED TO SHALL BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES MARCH 8, 1990 PAGE THREE ED GILCHER SPEAKS ADDRESSING THE LAST SUBJECT REGARDING PAGE THREE SECOND PARAGRAPH AND STATES THAT 20A10.2A AND B PAGE 650 OF THE LDC IS AN OVER LAP AND DUPLICATION AND NEEDS TO BE CLEANED OUT. HE STATES IT SHOULD REFER TO A NEW SECTION OF THE L. DC EXPLAINING THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD AND THAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHOULD BE SPELLED OUT BETTER. MR. GILCHER FEELS THAT IF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD CHANGES OR DISALLOWS THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS THEN IT SHOULD BE REQUIRED OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOAR[) TO DEMONSTRATE CONCLUSIVELY THE REASONS WHY - HE STILL FEELS THE ARCHITECTURAL BOARD SHOULD BE REGULATORY, FIRS. KILKELLY WOULD LIKE THE RESIDENCY RE©UiREMENTS SECTION CLEANED UP FOR APPROVAL, CHAIRMAN FEELS THEY SHOULD BE CITY RESIDENTS OR 'THREE YEAR BUSINESS OWNERS IN TOWN MR, FULLERTON AGREES AND MRS, K!LKELLY DISAGREES BECAUSE SHE FEELS THE CITY MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO FILL THE BOARD. MRS, KILKELLY MADE A MOTION TO FORWARD THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AND THAT APPLICANTS CAN COME FROM INDIAN RIVER COUNTY WITH CITY RESIDENTS GETTING PRIORITY AND THAT THE CHAIRMAN AND VICE-CHAIRMAN MUST BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND ALSO 'THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD MUST BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, SECOND BY MR. MAHONEY ROLL CALL AS FOLLOWS: MR. THOMPSON - NO BECAUSE HE FEELS THE CRITERIA WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF PASSAGE IF ALL MEMBERS ARE RESIDENTS MR. FULLERTON VOTED NO STATING HIS ONLY REASON WAS HE FEELS ALL MEMBERS SHOULD BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY ALL OTHER MEMBERS VOTED YES WITH THE MOTION PASSING 4-2 FIVE MINUTE RECESS WAS CALLED AT 8:50 P,M, CALLED BACK AT 9:00 ACCESSORY STRUCTURES DISCUSSION: MR. SHROYER STARTS THE DISCUSSION AND STATES WE SHOULD BREAK. OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND STORAGE SHEDS BRUCE STATES A PARAGRAPH C SHOULD BE ADDED TO ELIMINATE TRUCK BODIES OR OLD CARS USED AS SHEDS, STAN RECOMMENDS FRAME BLDGS SHOIJLD BE ALLOWED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES MARCH 8, 1990 PAGE FOUR SHIRLEY DISAGREES WITH ALL WINDOWS BEING AT 4 FEET STAN jAYo THE SAME THING SHE STATES IF THE ONLY INTENT IS TO MAKE WINDOWS AT THE SAME HEIGHT IT SHOULD SAY SO. MR. KRULIKOWSKI ,_TATE.:, THAT HE FEELS ANYTHING 500 AND ABOVE SHOULD COME BEFORE THE BOARD, MR. MAHONEY FEELS THAT EARLS PROPOSAL COVERS IT WELL. MRS. KILKELLY FEELS THAT MR. SHROYER'S PROPOSAL HAS TAKEN CARE OF THE DETAILS OF THE BUILDINGS, MR. KRULiKOWSKI RECOMMENDS THE DISCUSSION BE CARRIED OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING MRS. KILKELLY MAKES A MOTION TO CONTINUE 'THE DISCUSSION AT THE MARCH 15, 1990 REGULAR MEETING SECOND MR, THOMPSON PASSED UNANIMOUSLY MEETING ADJOURNED AT t0 P.M, City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 FAX 407-58~.5570 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA MARCH 8TH, 'lggo CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL ANNOUNCEMENTS APPROVE MINUTES; NONE OLD BUSINESS; NEW BUSINESS: ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD DISCUSSION ACCESSORY BUILDING DISCUSSION NONE CHAIRMANS MATTERS; MEMBERS MATTERS; ATTORNEYS MATTERS; ENGINEERS MATTERS; BUILDING OFFICIAL MATTERS; CITY PLANNER MATTERS; ADJOURN NOTE; IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTERS, HE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS MADE, City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 i;3 SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) ,.589-5330 FAX 407-589-5570 PUBLIC NOTICE CITY OF SEBASTIAN 1225 MAIN STREET INDIAN RIVER COUNTY SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, WILL HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING ON THURSDAY, MARCH 8TH, 1990 AT 7:00 P.M, iN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA.