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Home My WebLink About04171986 PZL. Gene Harris Mayor City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958-0127 TELEPHONE (305) 589-5330 Deborah C. Kragem City Clerk PLANNI'NG AND ZONI'NG COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 17, 1986 MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY' CHA}RMAN E!$'ENBARTH AT 7:03 P.M. ~RESENT; MR. THOMPSON 'MR. MAHONEY MR KRULIKOWS'Ki' MR.. WADSWORTH MRS' YOUNG CHAIRMAN E1SENBARTH ALSO PRESENT: TOM PALMER, C!Ty ATTORNEY ABSENT.a,: MR, EUECE. E70N CHAIRMAN EI'SENBARTH SAID 'MR. '~DLLERTON HAD CALLED HIM AND SAiD HE WOULD BEUNABLETO ATTEND TONIGHTSMEETING. MR. EISENBARTH INDICATED THAT HE HAD A BEER AND WINE LICENSE WHICH NEEDED Tb 'BE'SIGNED FOR THE" PIZZA1)[i~FC'E~-ON CR. 512'"~ THAT IT WAS' BEING SUBMITTED IN A DIFFERENT NAME DUE TO A CHANGE I'N OWNERSHIP. MR. TH.OgPSON MADE AMOT!ON TOMAKE TH'SS AN AGENDA ITEM UNDER OLD BUSINESS tE~ T~,E P~OPO$'EDSHOpp~NG PLAZA ON 512 FOR DELORME. E'iC~DE]D B?:IIR~, MAHQNE.¥'. MOT!LQNCARR!ED, "UNANIMOUSLY. AppROVAL OF MI'NUTES "FEBRUAR¥"6;'1986 MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR, THOMPSON As SUBMITTED SECONDED BY MR. W~DSWORTH MOTION' CARRIED, '"UNANIMOUSLy", MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZOI~NG£COMMISSION AP~)E 17, 1986 PAGE 2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES APRIL 3~ ,1~6 CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH INDICATED THERE WAS A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR ON PAGE BDDR AND REQUESTED THAT THE WORD "~S".., BE CHANGED TO "ARE". MOTION TO APPROVE' THE MINUTES AS' CORRECTED BY WADSWORTH SECONDED BY' MR, KRULI'KOWSK1. MOT !ON' CARRIED. UNANIMOUSLY. TAPE, STARTED TO UNROLL ONTO THE FLOOR AT THIS POINT AND THE MEETtNG WAS STOPPED t~OR APPROXIMATELY' FI~VE'MINUTE$ TO SEE ~F IT COULD BE REPLACED. TH]E TAPE, ~{IDLD N{)T WORK SO THE'~ME'ET]~N'G WAS CONTINUED N'I'THOUT THE TAPE. ALIiE~NATE MEMBER I~NTERVt'EW$: TH.ESE WERE TAKEN I'N ALPHABETI'CAL ORDER TO AVOID ANY CONFLICT. MR,; GRANT WAS THE f!'RST APpLI'CANT. MR. WAD~W, QRTH' ASKED MR GRANT I.'F RE' WAS TI~.E SAME PERSON WHO HAD JUST RUN FOR THE ¢!!T'(' CQ)UN¢!~L. MR. GRANT AN'S~ERED YES, MR. TH,OMPSON ASKED WHO HE' WORKED FOR. MR GRANT ANSWERED HARRIS CORPORATION. M/~,,$. yOUNG AS'KED ~F BE WAS EVE~ A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BE?OR.E, ~R. GRANT; .... ~ YES' FOR ONE' DAY', CBA~RIIAN E.)SENBARTH ASKBD WHAT HE COULD BRING TO THE BOARD THROUGH HIS ~ORK EXPE~IE'NCE. 'MR. GRANT SA~D NONE OF THE WORK H'E HAS DONE HAS BEEN RELATED TO PLANNING AND ZON'~NG BUT SOMETIMES JUST THE OPINZON OF A CITIZEN ~'~TH~NE~'I;DEAS COULD MAKEA D1FFfERENCE', HE STATED THAT HE LIVES HERE IN THE CIT~ BAS' AN ~NTERES'T 1N ~T AND WOULD JUST LIKE TO HELP. MR, WAD~OR.,TH. ASKED H'!^M B.O~ LONG B'E' HAD BEEN EMPLOYED WITH HARRIS. MR~ .G~RA. NT AN'S~ERED TWO YEARS. MR. EI'SE,NBARTH ASKED: WHAT ONE THING MADE YOU MOVE HERE. ,GRANT ANSWERED: ~ MOVED HERE FROM FT LAUDERDALE AND THE SMALL TOWN UN'~F~ED A'!I~OSPHE~E WAS YE~Y'APPEAL!NG TO ME. ~ LIKED THE IDEA OF PEOPLE kl~l)~/~G AT ~OU WHEN YOU PAST IN THE STREET RATHER THAN SHAKING TB'E')R FIST AT"¥~i"" NEXT A,PpLItIANT: TIM JOBE MR TB;OMPSON ASKED HIM WHERE Hi!S BUS!NE.SS WAS iN THE CITY. ~ ~QBE AN~ERED ON S'. END OF, U,S, #1 ~)R,, E)~ENBARTH AS'KE9MR jOBE THE' SAME. QUESTION REGARDING WHAT HE FELT HE COULD ER!~G TO THE' BOARD fROM HIS WORK' EXPERIENCE. MINUTES PLANNING AND COMMISSION APRIL 17, 1986 PAGE 3 MR. JOBE ANSWERED THAT HE HAD WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE PLANNING BOARD IN BROWARD COUNTY AREA AND THAT HE WAS FAMILIAR WITH GROWTH AND THE READING OF PLANS AND BLUEPRINTS. WHEN ASKED WH'Y H'E MOVED HERE : HE ANSWERED HE HAS FAMILY HERE. HE WAS LOOKING TO START HIS BUSINESS SOMEWHERE OTHER THEN SOUTH FLOR)DA AND FIRST STARTED LOOKING IN PT ST LUCIE BUT THEN HIS BROTBE~ TALKED HIM INTO COMING TO SEBASTIAN. AND HE IS GLAD HE DID BECAlJSE HE LIKES TO BE 1N A PLACE WHERE HE CAN HAYE A ONE ON ONE WITH PEOPLE'. MAE~NE~ ASKED HIM IF H:E FELT Hi1S LIMITED TIME IN THE CI'TY WOULD BE A P~, ,OB'LE~. ~ ~BE' SA~D THAT BE NAS HOPING NO ONE ~OULD ASK HIM THAT. BUT HE ~A~D THAT ~!NCE' TE)S WAS' AN ALTERNATE POSITION, HiE FELT THAT ~E COULD LEARN AND GROW~W)TE THE' BOARD AND WOULD HOPE THAT THE BOARD WOULD LOOE AT !'T AS AN AGRE'SSION ON MIS PART. MRS',. ~ADIGAN WAS NEXT; MR. E!SENBARTH' QUESTIONED HER ON HER PAST JOBS. ~)R,.~,? NADI~AN NE'NT ON TO EXPLA1N ABOUT B,ER BUSINESS AND WHAT SHE DID THAT SHE NAS ABLE' TO READ PLANS AND THAT SHE HAD WORKED WITH ARCHITECTS, ENG~NEE~, PLANNERS AND OTHERS BY GETTING PLANS AND PEIk'MITS FOR ALL OF T~EM. TBATS W~AT HE~..BUS~NE$~ WA~ ALL ABOUT. MR. NEUBERGE~: ~E WAS ASKED ABOUT HIS WORK EXPERIENCE. MR. NEUBERGER STATED 'THAT NE DID CONSTRUCTION RELATED WORK 1N THREE ¢~)UNTI'E~ 1N H]!S L!.'FETIME ONE OF Nli)~CH' NAS IN SEBASTIAN~ TH]AT HE WORKS CLOS,EL~(' I~,~TBi PLANNING AND ZONI'NG BOARDS ON A DAY' TO DAY' BASIS AND THAT BEi HATE'S' TELE¥!'S'tON AND tS ~lUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO ON TUESDAY AND TM1JRSDA¥' NIGHTS. ~HEN ASKED WHY HE MOVED HERE: HE RESPONDED HE HAD FIRST PUT A DOWN PAYMENT ON A HOUSE' 1N YE~O B~6BLANDS-'BUT BEFORE HE EYEN MOVED IN THE H~SE THai ~OU)'E WAS ROBBED SO HE CAME FURTHER NORTH AND SETTLED IN SEBASTIAN. MRs, I~kDS~ORTHi CLARIF1EDEXACTL~ ~HiAT HIS JOB WASWITH THE COUNTY AND WHAT ~EBAD..iDONE. W.I'TBi THE'. C~T¥ OF SEBASTIAN. ?hR, OLTMAN: 1' HAYENO E×pE:R!E'NCE IN TBi!S pARTICULAR AREA BUT AM INTERESTED ~N SE~jf)~G ON TBE] BOARD, MOVED TO $'EBAST1AN BECAUSE OF THE GOLF COURSE AND SMALLTQNN'-GOR~ ATMOSPHERE AFTER H/kVING A BUSINESS IN GRANT FOR 9 YEARS. THOMPSON ASKED HIM NH. ERE HIS BUSINESS WAS: ,Mf~,WBi~TE AN$'NERED~Y'MOT~ERS KI"TCBEN MR. ~H!!TE STATED THAT HE WAS FAMILIAR W'ITHi PLAN READING AND $I~ErCREW PLANS WORKED AS BOTH'CONTRACTOR AND SUB CONTRACTOR CAN READ RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BLUE PRINTS WITH NOPROBLEMS. HAS BEEN A SUPERINTENDENT FOR HEAVY CONSTRUCTION MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COIV~IISSION APRIL 17, 1986 PAGE 4 MR. WHITE CONTINUED: 1N SAUDIAARABIA FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. MR. WADSWORTH ASKED MR. WHITE BlOW L~ G HE' mAD BEEN IN BUSINESS IN SEBASTIAN AND HE ANSWERED ONE YEAR, THREE DAYS, TEN HOURS AND 45' MI'NUTE$. CHAIRMAN EI'SENBARTH OPENED NOMINATIONS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION: MR. )~ADS~ORTB ASKED I~ ALL THE APPLICANTS SHOULD LEAVE THE ROOM. MR. E!'$ENBARTMi SAID HE' D!~N"T THINK' WE COULD ASK THEM TO LEAVE. ALL THE' APPLICANTS LEFT THE' ROOM ANYWAY'. MR. ~AH~NE'Y' NOMINATED C~CK NEUBERGER NOMINATED MARIE MADIGAN ~3R. ~DSW, q)~TM NOM!NATED GERALD OLTI!AN AFTE~ A BRIEf QUIET AND S~NCE TV]ERE SEEI~ED TO BE NO OTHER NOMINATIONS CBAI~qJ~AN EI'~'ENBARTM ASKED 'FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS. MR; T~.~P~'ON-'MADE A ~OT!~ON TO CLOSE THE NOMI'NATIONS ~ECOND~ B"Y ~. K~L!~KOW~K'I' ~!~MAN E~SENBARTM.'REQUESTED AROLL CALL VOTE WITH NAME PREFERENCE M~,TBOMPSON -MR. NEUBERGER MR. MAM'ONEY' - MR. NEUBERGER MR.KRUL1KO~SKI~ MAR~ MADISON MR. WADSWORTH' -MR. OLTMAN MRS YOUNG - MRS. MAD1GAN E1SE'NBARTH.- MR. NEUBERGER CHAIRMAN EISENBARTM ASKED FOR A MOTION TO RECOMMEND MRS. MADIGAN AS ~ELL TO THE C!iTY' COUNCIL FOR THE ALTERNATE MEMBER. ~HR. k~k,.D$~ORTM~ MADE A MOTION TO RECOMMENDMRS, MADIGAN ALONG WITH MR. NEUBERGER SECONDED BYMP, S' ¥ODNG, '"M~QT~ON'CARRI'ED. UNANIMOUSLY. SEC,RETAR¥ TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE COUNCIL RECOMMENDING BOTH FORALTERNATE? AND LET THE COUNCIL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. " TBE' APPL!CANTS WERE ASKED TO COME BACK INTO THE ROOM. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH E~PLAINED TMATTHE BOARD ¥OTED TO RECOMMEND MRS. MADIGAN AND MR'. NEUBERGER TO T~i C!T¥ COUNCIL. PJJT.'PALM.ER'SA!D]TME COUNCIL HAD THE AUTHORITY TO APPOINT. ANYONE AND D!D NOT.MAYE TO ACCEPT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL APPLICANTS WERE THANKED lC)!{,. THE!~ !NTE~E.ST ANDiV)R, E'ISENBARTH SAID IN ALL VIS TIME ON THE PLANN!~G AND ZONING BOARD WE HAD NEVER HAD SOME MANY iNTERESTED iN SERVING. MINUTES PLANNING .AND ZONING COMMISSION APRIL 17, 1986 PAGE 5 REVISED SITE PLAN - PROPOSED SHOPPING PLAZA 512 - DELORME CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH ASKB IF ANYONE IS PRESENT TO REPRESENT THIS PLAN. BOTH THE OWNER AND THE ENGINEER COME FORWARD, CHAIRMAN EI'SENBARTH READ UECTORS REQUIREMENTS TO THEM FROM BIS FINAL APPROVAL LETTER AND ASKS THEM 1F THEY UNDERSTAND ANDWH'ETHER ORNOT THEY HAD ACOPY OF BIS F!'NAL LETTER. 'MR. WADSWORTH' ASKED THEM 1F THEY HAD TALKED TO THE COUNTY REGARDING THE CURB CUT. THE ANSWER WAS YES. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTU POINTED OUT THAT THE PLAN HAD A MISTAKE ON IT REGAR. D~G'TBE pARKING SPACES AND ASKED THE ENGINEER TO GET 1T STRAIGHTENED OUT ~N TBEi ONE' SUBMITTED TO THE' BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THE PLAN STATED THE SPACES ~E~E N1NE FEET AND THEY SHOULD SAY' TEN FEET. CHAIRMAN EI'SENBARTHi EXPLAI'NS THAT HE ASKED ATTORNEY' PALMER TO PREPARE A, C~,O~' EASEMENT FORM SO THE BOARD WOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING FOR TO,ESE PEOPLE TO SI~GN. ATTORNEY' PALMER EXPLAINS HIS FORMS AND STATES UE PREPARED THREE, ONE FO~ ~N'DI~.~DUAL OWNERS, ONE FOR B§RPORATE OWNERSHIP AND ONE FOR OTHER O~.NE~SB!9. 'D~U~ON TUR, NS TO THE PLAN~ AND ~BERE THE CURB CUT TO BE MADE 1S SU.~N AN~ T~ PALME~ SAYS 1T LOOKS'AS T~OUGH IT 1S MORE THAN 27 FEET ?LU~ 21 "FEET, 'ATTORNEY' PALME~ f, AIS'ES' TH'IS QUESTION BECAUSE iF ~T SS ~)~.E TUrN 27 FEET ~T DOESNOT CONFORM TO PLAN AND HIS' CROSS EASEMENT FOR~.~QULD BE USELESS, BECAUSE IT STATB~' TBEY MUST BE 30 ~EET TO $4.F~T. ~.A~CUi~TglCT 6IYE.$ D!SCUSSIiON ON TULE PLAN AND BOW' IT CONFORMS AND STATES TUfT TU~,X~'U~Ei 3O ,fE'E~ 'FROM T'~E PROPERTY' LINE TO THE TWO WAY' DRIYE ~E~ STATE~ );T FALLS N!TBFIN THE 3O' TO 54 FEET REQUIREMENT. THEiAi~C~LI~ECT ASKS' QUESTIONS ~E'GARD~NG THE FORM THEY' WANT HIM TO SIGN fQt{ T~Ei C~OSS EASEMENT, AND ASKS FOR CLARIFICATION. ATTORNEY' PALMER SAYS THE SEI~/ICE ROAD W.'ILL BE 24 FOOT CORB1DOR NO 'MORE ~ N'OLES~ AND'THAT THE OWNER IS JUST G~¥!NG THE EASEMENT TO THE CITY '?QR?UTtIRE BU!LD OUT TO ALLOW'PEOPLE ACB~SS-TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES FROM T~ ~E~ANENTCURB CUTS, PUT ~N BY' OWNER, CBAI.i~)AN E!iSENBARTH~ REQUESTS TUAT ANY MOTI~ON INCLUDE THE ~EB~$NEASEMENT 'FORM I~ T~E.' TEXT OF, THE' 'MOTION. CUA!.~AN E.!SENBARTH: ASKS' TOM ~F TB.E FORM MUST BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL ~QY.(~.,Ei I~T CAN BE PUT I'NTO USE, TOM ANS~E. RS NO IT CAN BE USED RI'GUT A~A~'B~T St~L'D BE SENT TO THE' COUNCIL FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY. .T~.CQNT);NUE~ TOE~PL.A~N THAT NO.~T'~LI]T1ES CAN COME' ON THE PROPERTY' TILL TB~iA~,,E~ IS.COmpLETELY'BUiLT OUT, CBAI!RMAN EISENBARTH ASKS IF THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. MR. THOMPSON MADE AMOTION THAT THE REVISED SITE PLAN FOR. THE PROPOSED SHOPPING PLAZAON SR 512 FOR GILLES DELORME BE APPROVED SUBSEQUENT TO THE FOLLOW'I'NG ITEMS:. 1) CURB CUT CONNECTION AT COUNTY ROAD 512 TO BE APPROVED BY I'NDIANRIYER' COUNTY' PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, 2) BUILDING 1S SET AT PROPERTY' LINES EAST AND WEST SIDE. BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO REQUIRE A CONSTRUCTION SURVEY' IN ORDER TO AVOID T~]E PO$S~BI'LITY OF ENCROACHING ON SOMEONE' ELS'E~'S PROPERTY'. 3) BUILDING PERMIT CONTINGENT TO PROPERTY' OWNER PAYING THE COUNTY' SITE PLAN RIP,ACT FEE IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,019.78. AS PER COUNTY' INTER-.OFFICE MEMO OF MARCH 34, 1986. AS LI~TED ZN MR. HECTOR A FRANCO, CITY' ENGINEERS FINAL APPROVAL LETTER AND ALSO T~AT A CROSS EASEMENT ~ORM BE $!GNED ~BD THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE CODNTY' BE.ALTH~ ~OR SEPTIC TANK AND SYSTEM BE THERE. MR. WADSWORTH MADE l~l{, ~AB~NEY' ASKED I? WE' NEED TO GI~E THE PERMANENT CURB CUT NUMBER IN THE ~N ? A.TT~NEY' PALME~ SAYS If IS NOT NECESSARY'. Ct~,I~AN E~SENBARTB: ASKg !~ TB[3E. )$' ANY' MORE DISCUSS'ION. MOT~ON'CARR!'ED. U.NAN)))OUS LY..' BEE,~..'AND'NINE'L!CENSE'FOt~."TO'BF. StGNED FOR PIZZA ,PARLOUR Cl~A~N E~SENB:AR. TB EXPLAINS THAT NOTHING AS FAR AS THE BUILDING HAS CHANGED BlJT'T'BAT TBE LICENSE' I'S NO~GOING ~N ~OMEONE ELSES NAME DUE TO CH'ANGE !'N Q~.N'E~SE~P OF T~E PIZZA PARLOUR, TBE OLD LICENSE WAS IN THE NAME OF DEMA~SO AND THE NEWONE ~ILL BE IN TB]E NAME OF ANDREW' ST. GEORGE. MR, ktADSkI. ORTt~; MADE A MOTI'ON TO APPROVE, SECONDED BY MRS YOUNG. :MR, ~.D~OR.,TBF ASKS t'F TEE OTHER LICENSE NEEDS TO BE RESCINDED. PAL~E~ ~PLAI~NS TEAT TBE LI'~OR DE'PT WILL PICK UP THE C~ANGE AND ONLY )~UE; ~N'E L~CENSE', ~'BUS~NESS: NO B.OME OCCUPATIONAL LI'CENSES SITE .pLAN RIPTIDE'MARINA CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH ASKS IF ANY ONE IS PRESENT FOR RIPTIDE. MR, ~ASTELLER COMES FORWARD W~.TH ROWENA SUMMER OF HIS OFFICE AND STATES TBATMR. AND MRS. RIPMA ARE' ALSO PRESENT. MR. MASTELLER DESCRIBES THE PROJECT AND ROWENA SUMMERS POINTS TO PLAN. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZON!'NG COII~!iS.S!iON APRIL 17, 1986 PAGE 7 MR, MASTELLERS SAYS THEY HAVE REQUESTED AND RECEIYED THEIR DER PERMIT AND ..... T~]~ P~!]T$-~)~RO))-'T)~E~ COR AND T~E DNR ARE ST!~LL PENDING. SAYS T~T I~ TH.E PLAN I'$' APPROVED THE CAPT KIDD WILL NO LONGER ~DTfROM THAT AREA, AND THE STORAGE SHED AND THE DUMPSTER ON N~LL BE MOVED. ~, ~TE:LkE~ STATES' THERE' NilLL BE. NO ?UELING, PUMPING OR OVERNIGHT ~E ~A~S.~E'NTALS'W]!~LL BE AVAILABLE ONLY ON A DAILY BASIS. MRS. YOUNG AS~$ IF TH.E~E ~A~RE BOATS' THE~E NOW' OVERNIGHT. MR MASTELLER LETS MR RIPMA ANSWER THAT ONE' AND HR'SAY,S- THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO RENT BY THE MONTH MOW ~DT.NO ~NE LI¥-ES THE~E ON BOARD TBE!R BOATS.NO LIYE ABOARD SLIPS WILL B'E] A~A~LABL~, PE~? ~PMA. MR, ~RUL~KO~$'KI' ASKS REGAR~)ING LENGTH ALLOWABEL INTO TH.E RIVER. EA~,L SA~. THE COR PE'R~!T REGULATES T~E LENGTH. PA.LME ASKS 1 v IR.· R!PMA ~EGARDI'NG LEASE TO BOAT O~NERS SAYING NO O~NI~T L!IE ~NS. MR~ Y,~UNG AS~$' ZF H.E '.HAS' TO PAVE' TI~.E PARKI'NG AREA. MR. PALMER ANSWERS UNLE.S~' M.E] ~ECE'!¥ES~ AN EXCEPT.~ON AND 'MR E!'SENBARTI~ SAYS EAST OF THE A~ iDOE,~N~'T BAYE TO B'E' PAYED, C~A~AN EISENBARTB] ASKS 1F T~'ERE' ARE ANY"MORE QUESTIONS. ,S]~LO, E.I!S'ENBARTB MENTIONS' THE SQ FT FOR THE ~INOR SITE PLAN AND SAID 1T ULD BE' 5000 and NOT 7500. MR? ~ASTELLERS SAY'S HE REMEMBERS THAT TO BE 5000 ALSO. CH~I'RMAN AS'KS SECRETARY TO BE SURE THAT IT IS CHANGED ON APPk 'CAT ON. ~R... ~AU,Q)NEY.-qUESTIONS TUE'ANGLE PARKI~NG REGARDING THE 20 I~EET. · MB,ANY,,,.K~D~'~('~.,S'K!'W" AS'KS ABOUT LAYATORY.'FACILITIES AND WHY' THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING EArL SAY`S'. THEY' DO.NOT ~NTEND FOR THE PEOPLE TO USE THE FACILITY AND MR RIPMA STATES TB~.T ALL. THiE BOATS' N~L H/kVE THEIR OWN FACILITIES'. ASKS' ~EGARD1NG T~E ONE !NCH. OF RETENTION. CBA!~AN E~SENBARTH] ASKS' 1F TH:E~E ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS MRS', ~QUNG SAY,S' SHE TH~NKS WE NEED A COPY' OF THE LEASE. ATTORNEY' PALMER SA~' ~E D~NT HAVE.' THE AUTHORITY' TO IMPOSE SUCH A REQUEST. ~'R. ~ABQNEY' ASKS' i'F THE NO L~E IN~'S'APPLIES TO THE WHOLE PROJECT OR JUST TBiE. NE~,.A~.,EA. MRMASTELLER ANSWERS THE WHOLE PROBECT. ~, ~ADSNORTB:'SPE'AKS IN 'REFERENCE TO BE. CTOR FRANCO'S LETTER AND THAT THEY SE~'?TO ~AYE COMPLIED WITH' ALL T~ REQUESTS? MR, ~ADS'~I~IRTB'MADEA~OTI!ON TO APPROVE TB.E SITE PLAN FOR RIPTIDE MARIN~ SECONDBY'~)IR..KRULIKOWSKI. MR EISENBARTH. WANTS PROVISION A AS PART OF TUEMOTI~ONI~IR, PALMER S~Y$ I'T CAN B'EA PART OF THE MOTION Wi'THNO PROBLEMS, FIRST AND SECOND ARE AMENDED TO INCLUDE PROVISION A, ALSO THAT IT BE CONTINGENT ON THE CAPT KIDD MOVING OUT, AMENDED AGAIN'. MR T~OMPSON ASKS THATT~E DATEOF THE' ~EVISED PLAN BE A'PA~T OF THE ~OT!ON- AMENDED AGAIN. MINUTES PLANNING'AND ZONING COMM1SS!ONAPR!L 17, 1986, PAGE 8 THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR 1S TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN FORRIPTiDE'MARINA CONTINGENT UPON THE OWNER FOLLOWING ALL THE STEPS 1N PROVISION A ANBTi-!r THAT THE CAPTAIN KiDD MOVE OUTOF THE AREA AND THAT THE PLAN. THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED ISTHE SITE PLAN DATED APRIL 1, 1986. ' 'MOT~ON.,'.CARRIED.' "UNANIMOUSLY. MR, MASTELLER ASKS'THAT THEY' BE GIYEN ALETTER STATING APPROVAL SINCE THEY W!!LL NOT BE APPL¥1NGFORA.BlJILDING PERMIT TO PUTUP A BUILDING AND THERE FOR ~LL .HAYE'N~TE1NG FOR TBEIi{ RECORDS. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTHiIF THE'RE'WOULD BE,ANY'OBJECTIONS TOA FIVE MINUTE RECE$S,:TBERE WERE NONE. MEETING RECESSED AT 8:30 P.M. MEETI~IG CALLEDBACKTO ORDER AT 8:35 P;~, AND CHAIRMAN E1SENBARTH STATED FOR TB,E ~E,CORD THAT ALL MEMBERS PRESENT PRIOR TO THERECESS WERE PRESENT AT T~E RECONVENtNG. F~)CB~iR.'ANDiSONS~;':SANq~ININGpERMI~. HAIRMAN EISENBARTH ASKS I'F THERE. 1S ANYONE PRESENT WHO REPRESENTS TI.:IL]~S', 5I~;TE. PLAN, RANDY'MOSBY' AND DR..FISCHER COMEFORWARD. RANDY GiVES'PROJECT OVERVIEW AND WHY THE' SANDM~N1NG REQUEST 55 BEING MADE. SAYS T~EY ARE CURRENTLY IN THE · PROCESS OF BUILDING THE ROAD WHICH CONNECTS TOCOUNTY ROAD510ATSR 512. HE INDICATED THAT THEY' HAD CUT. BACK ONTHE SIZE OF THE LAKEPER MR. FRANCO'S RECOMMENDATION ANDCOMMENTS, THEY STATED THEY' ARE AT ELEVATION17 AND TBiI$ N!LL BE A HIGH GROUND LAKE. THISPIECE OF PROPERTYGOES BACK'INTO THE CITY' LIMITS AND HAS BEEN ANNEXEDABOUTTHREE YEARSAGO. MR. THOMPSON CLARIFYIED THAT THE CEMETERY THAT IS BACK IN THROUGH THERE !$ NOT ON DOCTOR.FISCHERS PROPERTY AS HE DOESN't WANT TO GIVE PERMISSION ~Q~GRA~E~OV1NG. DR. F~S'CHER STATES 1T IS NOT 1T IS ON A PIECE OF P~PE~TY' O~,NED BY' ANOTHER MAN. ~HAI~I{MAN E'!SENBA~TH )~tD THAT T~]IS REQUIRES JUST A RECOMMENDATION TO C~T~' COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, DOCTOR FISCBiERSSAY'S THIS WILL BE PRIVATE WELL AND SEiPT!C 1N ANSi{ER TO MR, MAH~NE¥$ QUESTION 'REGARDING A SEWAGE DI~'POSAL $.Y$~TEM. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH ASKS' I'F THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. D!SCU$SI~N TURNS TO HECTOR"$ LETTER AND STATES THAT HECTORWOULD LIKE A SET TIME FOR THE SHUTDOWN OF THE MINING. .RANDY REPLIES WITH THE FACT THAT THE CODE CALLS FOR 7 AM TO SUNDOWN AND THAT IS WHAT HE IS APPLYING FOR. IT WAS DECIDED TO DISCOUNT TBIS ITEM ON HECTOR'S LETTER SINCE IT WA~ ACCORDING TO CODE. MR."NADSWOR~HZ"MADEIA~BB?~ON TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SAND MINING PERMIT AS A SPECIAL USE TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH REFERENCE TO HECTOR FRANCO'S LETTER OF APRIL 9, 1986 AND ALL ITEMS BEING MET. SECONDED BY MR. KRULIKOWSK1. MOT!ON CARRIED. UNANIMOUSLY. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APRIL 17, 1986 PAGE 9 SITE PLAN WAREHOUSE JOHN HAMILTON MR. EISENBARTH ASKED MR HAMILTON WHERE THIS WAS IN RELATION TO THE OTHER ONE, HE INDICATED IT WAS AT THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT SOUTH' OF THE FIRST ONE, MR. THOMPSON QUESTIONED THE DRAWING HE HAD 1N COMPARISON TO THE ONES THE OTHER MEMBERS WERE LOOKING'AT. HE WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE. CB'AIRMAN EI'SENBARTH ASKS WHICH] DRAWING IS CORRECT PER RETAIL SQ FT NE EXPLAINS THAT THE NEW' DRAWING WAS MADE TO ACCOMODATE HECTOR'S RE- QU~REME'NTS. E1SENBARTE BROUGHT UP THE TYPICAL PARKING AND SAYS IT ~$ TOO SMALL UNLESS THE ARROWS ARE ~N THE WRONG PLACE. MR HAMILTON SAYS TBE.Y' ARE THE STANDARD SIZE. SURELY MR PETERSON KNOWS WHAT SIZE TO MAKE TBE~E SAYS E'~SENBARTB', C~B!~AN ASKS I'Y THERE ARE ANY'MORE QUESTIONS AND STATES' THAT HECTOR FRAN¢~ ~ECOMMENDS' APPROVAL. 'MR. TI~Q)~P~ON ASKS IF MR HAMt'LTON BAS SEEN THE LETTER' FROM THE COUNTY ~EG,A~D!NG T~._E IMPACT FEES JOHN SAYS NO ~T THaT HECTOR HAD MENTIONED IT MI~, K~L..K.O~,SK.I~ QUESTIONS tHK pAI~KTNO, DFF)IIT))KMKNTR FOR AUTO REPAIR AND SALES, MR, 'MAHONEY' QUOTES FROM THE BOOK REGARDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A GAS STATION, MR, KRULIKONSK~ QUOTES PARKING REQU~EMENT NO 26 MR. EISENBARTH' ASKS IF TH]ERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, PARKING AREA STILL UNDER DISCUSSION. MRS YOUNG SAYS SH, E WILL NOT VOTE BECAUSE DOESN'T HAVE FULL PLANS. CH~!RMAN E~SE'NBARTH AGREES W~THMR KRUL)KOWSK! REGARDING THE PARKING CALCULATION AND ASKS I'F CLOSING ONE BAY' FOR STORAGE ONLY' WOULD BE A PROBLEM. MR. HAMILTON H~D NO PROBLEM ~'ITH IT. C~AIt~AN ASKS !'F THERE ARE' ANY' MORE' QUESTIONS MR MAB~NE¥ ASKS 1F THEY' SHOULD ¥OTE ON WHET~ER THE PARKING CALCULATION SBQULD BE' C@NSIDERED ON ~ 22 ~ # 26, TOM SAY'S' THE VOTE SMOULD BE ON NHETBE~ TO ACCEPT B'ECTORS CALCULATIONS, THE' PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? M~, ERUL1KON, S'K.~ ASKS ATTORNEY' PALMER 1F HE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK IiNTO THE' PA~K.1NG CALCULATION AND H.E SAYS NO HE I'S NOT GOING TO DISPUTE] T~E OPINION OF THE ENG~NE'ER, C~AI~AN AGAIN ASKS FOR THE PLEASURE OF TH.E BOARD, HE STATES THAT BY DES~NAT~NG TUE CLOSING BAY' ¢OR STORAGE IT ~.OULD DROP THE PARKING CALCULAT!ONS DRASTICALLY', ATTOP, NEi¥' PALMER ASKS MR HAMILTON ABOUT HIS OTHER BUILDINGS AND WHETHER OR NOT HE BAS PARKING PROBLEMS. MR HAMILTON STATES NO THEY HAYE HAD NONE. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.APRIL 17, 1986 PAGEiO MR. KRUL1KOWSKI MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN FOR JOHN HAM!LTON WITH REFERENCE TO THE FINAL APPROVAL LETTER FROM HECTOR FRANCO DATED APRIL 9, 1986 AND CONTINGENT UPON ONE BAY OF THE PROPOSED AUTO REPAiR'SHOP BE DESIGNATED STORAGE OR.SIMILAR TYPE AREA. l~ WADSWORTH MADE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. TOM TOLD MR HAMILTON THAT HE COULD PUT IN HIS LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE TENANT THE' NUMBER OF CARS ALLOWED FOR HIS EMPLOYEES. MR THi~PSON ASKS MR.KRULIKOWSK1 IF HE MILL AMEND HIS MOTION'TO PUT THE' ~QRD OFFICE AFTE~ DES)'GNATED STORAGE AND DELETE OR SIMILAR Ty'PEAREA, MR. KRUL1KOWSKI AGREED AND AMENDED HIS MOTION, IT WAS AL~O ~EQUESTED THAT TH~S BE DRAWN ON THE PLANS. MR TBQ~PSQN CAME UP W~TH SOME FIGURES AND SAID THAT THERE IS ONLY 18 'FEET FROM THE EDGE' OF THE LANDSCAPE TO THE OUTSIDE EDGE,OFTHE PARKING SPACE WHi!C~"MEANS HE DOESN'T REALLY HAYE .TWENTY FEET IN THERE. LANDSCAPE LINE TO THE CAR STOP IS 1~ FEET. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH WAS SURPRISED T~AT HECTOR MI~S~SED TB~$ CALCUEAT~ON ON THE 20 FEET. CH~!~Uk. ~N ASKS !'F TH. ERE I'S AN,~Y' MORE' DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL ¥OTE; MR THOMPSON, YES, MR MAHONEY'- NO, 'MR KRULIKOWSKI-YES, MR, WADSNORTH-. Y', MRS, ¥OUNG-.ABSTA1NS, CCHAIRMAN EISENBARTH- VOTES NO. MR TB~P$ON AS'KS JOHN TO PLELASE BE' SURE THiE 20 FEET IS TAKEN CARE OF. MR ~-U~M!:LTON AGREES TO DO SO. . ATT~)~NE¥' PALME~' SAYS HE CAN SPEED THIS UP A LITTLE AND STATES THAT SE'CT~ONII~20 i'tem 26 C UNDER CONDITION USE GIVES THE CRITERIA WHICH HAS TQ BE MET. ATTORNEY PALMER SAYS' T~IS IS NOT A SPECIAL USE BUT A COND.1T!ONAL USE AND 1F T~E:¥ COULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IT WOULD ~E ACCEPTABLE. HE TOLD.THEM THEY COULD NOT HAVE MORE THAN 40 PER.CENT O~ Ttl~i TOTAL SQUARE ~E'ET OF THE' BUILDIN6 AS A RESTAURANT. THE GENTLEMEN AS'~'~NG 'FO~Ei,RE'~UE'ST STATED THAT'HiE' WOULD BE USING MORE 'THAN 40% ~NO ATTORNE'Y PALME~ SAID THEN THE~E )S NO WAY THE RESTAURANT COULD BE' OPENED 1N THE COR DISTRZCT. 1T WOULD NOT FALL UNDER SPECIAL USE ~F BE' COULD NOT MEET THE' CRITERIA FOR A CONDITIONAL USE. MR TB]OMPSON MADE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING FOR 15 MINUTES SECONDED B¥~R ~A~NE¥'. CB~I~RI~&NS'~TTE'RS: CHAIRMAN ASKS 1F EVERYONE GOT THERE BUDGETSHEETS AIIDSAYS ~]E ~L~LMAKE THIS AN AGE~DA STEM FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY. D!SCD$SION TURNS TO WHETHER WORD PROCESSING EQUIPMENT WOULD BE' ACCESSIBLE FOR P & Z AND CH~I'RMAN ASKS ~ECRETARY TO CHECK AND BRING THE INFORMATION TO THE BUDGET MEET1NG. C~IRMAN ESiENBARTH STATE'S HE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PUDS AN AGENDA ITEM 'ON MAY I ST. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APRIL 17, 1986, PAGE 11 CHAIRMAN STATED THAT HE HAD ASKED LINDA AND HECTOR TO GET SOME FIGURES TOGETHER REGARDING CHARGING A FEE FOR TRANSFERS OR ENTENSIONS OF SITE PLANS. CHAI~RMAN EI'SENBARTH STATED THAT THE COUNCIL ASKED HIM TO MAKE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR MAY 1st ON THE CR 512 CURB CUT FOR CUMBERLAND FARMS. COPIES OF PLANS. AND A LETTER FROM MR. LANGTON SHOULD BE COMING IN S~)ON, ALSO COPI'ES OF RANDY."MOSBYi'~ OP)~NION LETTER SHOULD BE INCLUDED. AN OP!~N!~(~N F~OIi H. ECTOR AND ~ROGER ALSO ~'B,OULD BE INCLUDED 1N T~ PACKAGE. ~.Et~ BE.~, S' .' ~ATT E~S: /~P,~ KRULIKOWSKi qUESTIONS IF MODEL HOMES STILL COME TO THE BOARD HE I'S ADVISED THEY GO TO COUNCIL.AND HmE OCCUPATIONS COME TO THE BOARD. MR. WADSWORTH ASKED ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTB $'AID HE HAD SPOKEN TO MR ROTH AFTER THE COUNCIL MEETING AND BE' ~AS GETT1NG READY' TO SCHEDULE TH.E FIRST MEETING SOON. ATTORNEY'S 'MATTERS: NONE ENGI'NEER'S MATTERS: NONE MOTION TO ADJOURN BY' MR WADS'WORTH SECONDED BY MR MAHONEY MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUS~ MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:15 P.M. Jim Gallagher Mayor City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958-0127 TELEPHONE (305) 589-5330 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA APRIL 17, 1986 Hector A. Franco City Eng neer CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL ANNOUNCEMENTS APPROVE'MtNtlTES: F~-bruary 6, 19'86 April 3, 1~86 OLD BUSINESS: INTE'RVIEWS~ ALTERNATE MEMBER REVISED SITE PLAN - PROPOSED SBOPP1NG PLAZA 512 -, DELORME APPROVAL OF HOME OCCUPAT[ONAL LICENSES SITE PLAN - RIPTIDE MARINA SITE PLAN - SANDMI~NING PEEMI~T - FI'SCHER AND SONS SITE PLAN - JOHN J~AMILTON - WAREBiOUSE ,REQUEST re~SP~E¢~AL USE - F,.1SCHER CHAIRMAN ~S:.MAT~ERS:~ ATTORN E¥~S.'MAT~RS: ' ENG~'E,R,~' S: M~TTERS, :, ADJOURN NOTE: !'F ANYPERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY' DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTE~S. BE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES, ME/SHE MA'¥NEED TOENSURE TBAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE OCEED!NGS IS':~ADE', WHICHRECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY' IN EVIDENCE WBiIiCBi THE' APPEAL I~S~ MADE,