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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05081986 PZGENE HARRIS Mayor City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958-0127 TELEPHONE (305) 589-5330 Hector A. Franco City Engineer PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA MAY 8th, 1986 CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL ANNOUNCEMENTS APPROVE 'MINUTES: 'OLDBUS~NESS~ COMMERICAL AND INDUSTRIAL PUD'S NEWBUSINESS; CHAI'RMAN'SMATTERS; "MEMBER~'S"MATTERS: ATTORNEY'S MATTERS: ENGINEER~SMATTERS: ADJOURN NOTE: I'F ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVEMATTERS HE/SHE W~LL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOS.ES HE/SHEMAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE' PROCEEDINGS ~S MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TEST~ON¥' ~N EVIDENCE' ~N N,H,~CH THE APPEAL I'S MADE. J City of Sebastian L. GENE HARRIS POST OFFICE BOX 127 ❑ SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958.0127 Hector A. Franco Mayor TELEPHONE (305) 589-5330 City Engineer MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING SPECIAL MEETING MAY 8th, 1986 MEETING CALLED TO ORDER BY CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH AT 7:00 P.M. PRESENT: MR THOMPSON MR. FULLERTON MR. MAHONEY MR. WADSWORTH MRS YOUNG CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH ABSENT: MR. KRULIKOWSKI, EXCUSED ALSO PRESENT: HECTOR FRANCO TOM PALMER ANNOUNCEMENTS: NONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES: NONE OLD BUSINESS: COMMERCIAL PUD STARTED WITH PAGE i OF THE INDEX — NO CHANGES PAGE ii OF THE INDEX — NO CHANGES PAGE ONE: PARAGRAPH "A" — PURPOSE AND INTENT DELETE THE FIRST TEN WORDS ON LINE THREE PARAGRAPH "B" — PAGE ONE CHANGE THE WORD INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL MR. WADSWORTH ASKS WHY COR WAS OMITTED FROM PUD AND COULD IT BE INCLUDED. ALL MEMBERS PRESENT WERE AGAINST ADDING COR MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING PLANNING AND ZONING PAGE 2 MAY 8th, 1986 MR. MAHONEY QUESTIONED PARAGRAPH "G" WORDING. ATTORNEY PALMER CLARIFIES WORDING OF "BY RIGHT" MR. MAHONEY IS SATISFIED AND THE WORDING REMAINS THE SAME. NO FURTHER CHANGES ONE PAGE ONE. PAGE TWO MR. THOMPSON ASKS ATTORNEY PALMER FOR A DETAILED DEFINATION PERTAINING TO NUMBER ONE LIMITED COMMERCIAL MR. THOMPSON IS SATISFIED WITH DEFINITION AND NO CHANGES ARE REQUESTED. MR. MAHONEY POINTS OUT A SPELLING ERROR IN NUMBER ONE SUB PARAGRAPH "d" 114" THE WORD SHOULD BE STUDIOS AND NOT STUDIES. NO FURTHER CHANGES ON PAGE TWO PAGE THREE CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH REQUESTS THAT 2E ON PAGE THREE SHOULD SAY EXCLUDING DRIVE-INS. MR. PALMER INDICATES THAT THE WORDING IS CORRECT. MR. EISENBARTH FEELS ALLOWING THIS IS GOING AGAINST THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND REQUESTS A VOTE FROM THE MEMBERS. THE WORD INCLUDING IS CHANGED TO EXCLUDING BY UNANIMOUS DECISION. RANDY MOSBY FROM THE PUBLIC QUESTIONS WHETHER LIGHT HIGH TECH INDUSTRIAL COULD BE PUT IN COMMERCIAL PUD UNDER CG. DR. FISCHER SPEAKS OF IBM COMING AND CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH SAYS IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE THAT COMPANIES LIKE THAT CAN COME OR WILL COME AND PUTTING IT IN OPENS THE DOOR TO OTHER THINGS. MR. THOMPSON ASKS FOR CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED, SECONDED BY MR. WADSWORTH PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH STATES THAT NUMBER 2 E & F SHOULD BE INCLUDED UNDER CONDITION USES: ITEM H PAGE THREE. NO OBJECTIONS BY BOARD. NO FURTHER CHANGES TO PAGE THREE. Page 3 MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING PLANNING AND ZONING MAY 8th 1986. PAGE FOUR MR MAHONEY QUESTIONS ITEM iii UNDER "b" AND WHO WOULD CONTROL THE ACTUAL DENSITY. MR. PALMER CLARIFIES PLANNING AND ZONING MAKES THAT DECISION. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH QUESTIONS WHY 8 UNITS PER ACRE WHEN RESIDENTIAL PUD CAN ONLY BE FIVE (5). ATTORNEY PALMER TRYS TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS WAS SET UP AT EIGHT RATHER THAN FIVE. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH REQUESTS THAT A SENTENCE BE ADDED TO THE END OF "b" "iii" WHICH READS " NO CREDIT SHALL BE GIVEN FOR LAND USED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES IN CALCULATING DENSITY. " PASSED UNANIMOUSLY TO ADD TO CODE. IN "b' 'v" IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE WORD PROPOSED BE REMOVED FROM THE PARAGRAPH. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. /ow*� MR. THOMPSON FEELS IN iii THAT IT SHOULD READ 5 NOT 8. NO DEFINATE CHANGE MADE. PAGE FIVE MR. THOMPSON ASKS TO DISCUSS "J" "1-E". MR. THOMPSON WANTS TO CHANGE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHTS TO READ 25 FEET RESIDENTIAL AND 35 FEET COMMERCIAL. MR. FULLERTON FEELS TWENTY FIVE FEET IS RESTRICTIVE, AND THAT THE RESIDENTIAL SHOULD STAY AT 35 FEET. MR. MAHONEY SAYS LEAVE AT 35 FEET. MR. WADSWORTH SAYS LEAVE AT 35 FEET. MRS. YOUNG SAYS CHANGE TO 25 FEET. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH SAYS LEAVE AT 35 FEET. THE RESIDENTIAL HEIGHT REMAINS AT 35 FEET BY A FOUR TO TWO VOTE. WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMERCIAL HEIGHT. IT WAS UNANIMOUS BY ALL MEMBERS PRESENT THAT THE HEIGHT SHOULD BE CHANGED FROM 50 FEET TO THIRTY FIVE FEET. RANDY MOSBY FROM AUDIENCE SAYS IF YOU DROP THE BUILDING HEIGHTS THEY YOU SHOULD ALSO DROP THE SET BACK REGULATIONS. MR. PALMER TRIES TO EXPLAIN WHY IT WAS SET AT 200 FEET AND 50 FEET. PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS WANT 200 FEET AND 35 FOOT HEIGHT_BUT MIGHT=CONSIDER LOWERING THE SETBACK AT A LATER MEETING WHEN HAS MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT. MINUTES SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING PAGE 4 MAY ~,8, 1986 CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH STATES HIS OPINION ON THE 50 FOOT HEIGHT IS ADAMANT. THERE WERE SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THIS POINT. DISCUSSION TURNS BACK TO PAGE FOUR AND THE 200 FEET REQUIRED SETBACK. MR. WADSWORTH SAYS WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. MRS. YOUNG FEELS IT SHOULDN'T BE 200 FEET. MR. MAHONEY - 200 FEET IS EXCESSIVE. MR. FULLERTON - 200 FEET IS A LOT OF LAND - SUGGESTS WE CUT IT IN HALF. MR. THOMPSON SAYS PAGE FOUR SHOULD BE CHANGED TO 100 FEET. MR. PALMER SAYS YOU SHOULD USE THE 10-1 RATION TO DETERMINE SET BACKS THAT IS WHAT THEY USED FOR THE 200 FEET AT 50 FOOT HEIGHTS. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH SUGGEST WE GET THE THOUGHTS IN WRITING FROM THE STAFF - ENGINEER AND ATTORNEY. VICE MAYOR ROTH ADDRESSES THE BOARD. HE REMINDS THE BOARD THAT THE SET BACK ON 512 CORRIDOR IS 75 FEET AND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY LIES ON THAT CORRIDOR HE RECOMMENDS: DON'T PUT YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND. THEY THINK ABOUT 'I'VE FU~I'UR~ AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OR WE WILL PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKES LATER ON. MR. THOMPSON RECOMMENDS THAT PAGE FOUR I-1 SHOULD BE CHANGED TO 100 FEET. BUT RECOMMENDS WE GET A WRITTEN OPINION AND SECONDED BY MR. WADSWORTH. UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. MR. THOMPSON SAYS SECTION I-1 SHOULD BE REWORDED ACCORDING TO ATTORNEY PALMERS MEMO TO HECTOR FRANCO AND HECTOR'S AGREEMENT OF SAME. THE MEMO WAS INREGARDS TO THE PERIMETER PROPERTY LINE. THE PARAGRAPH SHOULD READ" NO STRUCTURE PROPOSED FOR COMMERCIAL USE SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN 200 FEET OF ANY RESIDENTIALLY ZONED LOT OR PARCEL OUTSIDE OF THE PERIMETER LINE OF THIS PUD. ALL MEMBERS IN AGREEMENT WITH CHANGE. BACK TO PAGE FIVE MR. THOMPSON RECOMMENDS THAT ONE OF THE WORDS "TAKE" BE REMOVED FROM THE LAST LINE. 5 MINUTE RECESS CALLED AT 8:55 P.M. MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING PLANNING AND ZONING PAGE 5 MAY 8, 1986 MEETING CALLED BACK TO ORDER AT 9:02 P.M. ALL MEMBERS PRESENT THAT WERE PRESENT BEFORE THE RECESS. PAGE SIX MR. MAHONEY TALKS ABOUT "K" 1 AND SAYS THE WORDS IN THE SECOND LINE SHOULD READ PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RATHER THAN PLANNING BOARD. AND HE FELT IT SHOULD HAVE THE WORD PRELIMINARY ADDED IN FRONT OF THE LAST WORD ON THAT SAME LINE. ALL MEMBERS WERE IN AGREEMENT TO CHANGES. NO OTHER CHANGES TO PAGE SIX PAGE SEVEN MR. MAHONEY REQUESTS CHANGE OF WORDING UNDER "C" SECOND SENTENCE. ATTORNEY PALMER DELETES SEVERAL WORDS STARTING WITH THE WORDS "AS INTERMITTENT VISUAL OBSTRUCTIONS FROM THE GROUND UP TO" THEN THE WORD "HAVING" IS INSERTED IN ITS PLACE. UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO CHANGE TO NEW WORDING. NO OTHER CHANGES ON PAGE SEVEN. PAGE EIGHT. MR. MAHONEY ASKS TO HAVE BOARD GO TO "G" AND CHANGE THE WORD PROVIDED IN THE SECOND LINE TO PROVIDING. APPROVED BY BOARD. MR. MAHONEY SAYS UNDER "L" WOULD LIKE AN EXPLANATION OF STREET FURNITURE. ATTORNEY PALMER GIVES EXPLANATION AND MR. MAHONEY ASKS IF WORDING SHOULD BE CHANGED. NO CHANGE APPROVED. NO OTHER COMMENTS OR CHANGES ON PAGE EIGHT. MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING PLANNING AND ZONING PAGE SIX MAY 81 1986 PAGE NINE PAT LAMBERT ASKS THE BOARD WHY THE WORD INDUSTRIAL IS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE IN "E". THE FIRST FOUR WORDS ARE TAKEN OUT AND THE OTHER TWO INDUSTRIAL WORDS ARE DELETED ALSO. UNANIMOUS CHANGE. MR. THOMPSON REQUESTS CAPITALIZATION OF THE FIRST LETTER OF THE FIRST WORD OF ALL SUB PARAGRAPHS ON EIGHT AND NINE. UNANIMOUS. INDUSTRIAL PUD: MR. FULLERTON MADE AMOTION SECONDED BY MR. WADSWORTH THAT THE INDUSTRIAL PUD BE FINISHED AT THE NEXT MEETING NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT IF THERE IS TIME AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. SECRETARY REQUESTED TO SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADVISE DATE BY MOTION MADE BY MR. WADSWORTH AND SECONDED BY MRS. YOUNG. APPROVED. MOTION TO ADJOURN BY MR. THOMPSON SECONDED BY MRS. YOUNG. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.