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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06051986 PZL. GENE HARRIS Mayor City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958-0127 TELEPHONE (305) 589-5330 Hector A. Franco City Engineer PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5, 1986 MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH AT 7:00 P.M. PRESENT: MR. THOMPSON MR. FULLERTON MR. WADSWORTH MR. OLTMAN MR EISENBARTH MR. MAHONEY ABSENT: MRS, YOUNG AND MR. KRULIKOWSKI BOTH ARE EXCUSED. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH SAYS HE NEEDS TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HAVE THE SENIOR MEMBER CHAIR THE MEETING THAT BEING WILLIAM MAHONEY BECAUSE HE IS A PROPERTY OWNER INVOLVED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST ON THE AGENDA AND HYE WANTS TO SPEAK AS SUCH. MR. WADSWORTH MADE A MOTION SECONDED BY MR. THOMPSON TO APPOINT MR. MAHONEY AS CHAIRMAN FOR THE PORTION OF THE MEETING INVOLVING CHESSER GAP. MR. THOMPSON RECOMMENDS THAT PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING BEING OPENED THAT DR FISCHER BE ABLE TO COME UP AND GIVE AN EXPLANATION OF THE PROJECT HE WISHES THE CHANGE FOR. MR. MAHONEY RECOGNIZES DR. FISCHER. DR. FISCHER GIVES A SHORT SUMMARY OF WHAT HE PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY AND THEN TURNS THE TALK OVER TO HIS PROJECT ENGINEER RANDY MOSBY. RANDY INDICATES THAT EVERYTHING IS IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGES AND NOTHING IS PERMANENT. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED TO THE PUBLIC. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING PAGE TWO JUNE 5, 1986 FIRST MEMBER FROM THE PUBLIC: NORM BARTLETT -786 GEORGE STREET MR. BARTLETT INDICATES YES HE IS FOR PROGRESS BUT AGAINST CHANGING THIS LAND TO COMMERCIAL MR. BARLETT INDICATES IF THIS GOES COMMERCIAL THERE WILL BE POLLUTION, NOISE AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC. MR. BARLETT INDICATES WAVE STREET WILL BE THE ONLY EXIT FROM PROPERTY TO GEORGE ST AND THEREFORE WILL CAUSE SEVERE TRAFFIC JAMS. RANDY COMMENTS ON MR. BARLETTS CONCERNS. DR. FISCHER GIVES SOME COMMENTS AND INDICATES IF WAVE STREET IS NOT WANTED HE WILL TAKE IT OUT AND TURN IT TO A BIKE PATH ONLY. MR. TOM BOWMAN 833 CARNATION MR. BOWMAN SPEAKS OF CLEARING AND LOOKS LIKE A ROAD IS GOING IN. DR. FISCHER INDICATES THAT IS GDC CLEANING THE WATERWAY AND THEN THEY ARE PLANNING TO REFLOOD IT. MR. BOWMAN THEN GOES ON TO SAY HE IS ALSO AGAINST THIS WHEN HE BOUGHT HIS PROPERTY HE DID NOT BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE AN OFFICE COMPLEX BUILDING RIGHT BEHIND HIM HOWEVER, HE SAYS HE iS NOT ON GEORGE STREET HE IS RIGHT BEHIND IT ON THE NEXT STREET BUT AGAIN YOU DO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC MORE NOISE. HE INDICATES HE IS A LETTER CARRIER UP IN MELBOURNE AND FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS HE HAS WATCHED NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING UP AND BEFORE THEY WERE BUILT THERE WAS NICE HOMES AND EVERYTHING THEN THEY PUT UP A SHOPPING CENTER AND A YEAR LATER HALF THE HOUSES ARE VACANT NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE IN THEM OR THEY SEEM TO BE RUN DOWN AND TURNED INTO SEMI SLUMS. AND HE IS AFRAID THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN HERE ALSO. CATHERINE ACKERMAN AND I LIVE ON LANDSDOWNE EVER SINCE I HEARD ABOUT THIS I AM JUST DELIGHTED YOUR GOING TO HAVE COMMERCIAL THINGS ALONG 512 ANYWAY AND DR. FISCHER ANYTHING ELSE HE HAS DONE HE HAS FULFILLED WHAT HE HAS PROMISED AND IF HE SAYS HE WILL BUILD A BUFFER I BELIEVE HE WILL. I BELIEVE IT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR HOMES WILL GO UP IN VALUE MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5, 1986 PAGE THREE MR. SPARKS LIVES ON GEORGE ST. 81 YEARS OLD LIVED IN SEBASTIAN FOR 6 YEARS. MR. SPARKS THINKS THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE PUT ON A LARGE DRAWING AND PUT IT TO SCALE SO THE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT IS PROPOSED. WHEN ASKED IF HE WAS IN FAVOR SAID YES IF IT IS TAKEN CARE OF AND DONE CORRECTLY. MR. KEN HOUSE %$( LAYPORT DRIVE THIS STREET IS FLEMING VOCELLE RUNS OFF IT ALL THE WAY TO ROSELAND ROAD THIS IS RIGHT NO LIGHT TRAFFIC BUT IF THIS PROJECT GOES iN THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM WILL BE TERRIBLE SAYS WE NEED A PROJECT LIKE THIS LIKE WE NEED ANOTHER WORLDWIDE FLOOD. AGAINST THE PROJECT 100% RANDY ANSWERS HIS CONCERNS DR. FISCHER GIVES A DETAILED DESCRIPTION AGAIN. BILL MERITZ ASKED IF ANY OF THE EXISTING TREES AROUND THE PROPERTY WILL BE CUT DOWN. DR. FISCHER SAYS NO IN FACT MORE WILL BE PUT IN. MILDRED CONKLE GEORGE STREET IN THE FIRST PLACE WE DONT CALL THIS A DRAINAGE DITCH WE CALL THIS THE COLLIER WATERWAY AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IT WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST HOMES TO BUILD ON THE WATERWAY AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPOSED BUILDERS. I AM OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE I LIVED IN MELBOURNE VILLAGE BEFORE I MOVED HERE AND WHEN THEY PROPOSED THE BUILDING OF THE MELBOURNE MALL THE PEOPLE IN MELBOURNE VILLAGE OPPOSED IT BITTERLY. WE PUT OUR HOME ON THE MARKET WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING THE MALL AND CAME TO SEBASTIAN TO LIVE THREE YEARS AGO AND NOW RIGHT ACROSS FROM US IS ALL THIS COMMOTION AND NOW YOUR SAYING THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO GO AND MR. THOMPSON STOPS HER AND SAYS RANDY IS ONLY THE SPOKESMAN FOR THE DEVELOPER NOT THE CITY. SHE CONTINUES TO SAY THAT MELBOURNE VILLAGE WAS ONLY THREE MILES FROM MELBOURNE MALL AND ALL THE PROPERTY VALUES WERE VERTULIED DESTROYED BY THE MELBOURNE MALL i WAS THERE AND i SAW IT ALL AND I LIVED IN MELBOURNE FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS TEN OF IT IN THE VILLAGE. I LEFT MELBOURNE BECAUSE OF THE MALL AND NOW IT IS HAPPENING AGAIN I AM OPPOSED TO THIS BEING APPROVED. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING PAGE FOUR JUNE 5,1986 NO MATTER WHAT YOU'LL DO YOU'LL STILL HAVE YOUR TRAFFIC PROBLEM YOU'LL HAVE CONGESTION, YOU SAY ITS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY IT PROBABLY WILL BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE HERE TO AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THIS PROJECT. MR. THOMPSON SAY YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU. HAROLD EISENBARTH LIVES AT 717 WENTWORTH I AM NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE SINCE I FIRST BOUGHT MY PROPERTY I KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING LARGE ON THIS PROPERTY AND I PICTURED A SHOPPING CENTER THAT WOULD BE CENTRALLY LOCATED AND SUPPLY THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND LOOKING AT THAT MAP UP THERE IT LOOKS PRETTY CENTRALIZED TO ME. BUT THIS PROPOSAL AS IT STANDS DOESN'T ANSWER ENOUGH QUESTIONS FOR ME WE ARE TOLD THAT THEIR WILL BE SHOPPING AND COMMERCIAL SOME INDUSTRIAL AND A NEWSPAPERS REPORTS MAYBE EVEN A LIBRARY SOME OF THESE OPTIONS ARE LOGICAL IN MY MIND BUT SOME I AM VERY VERY SKEPTICAL TONIGHT I AM HERE TO GIVE PUBLIC INPUT ON A REQUEST TO CHANGE THIS PROPERTY TO CG LAND USE. IN READING THROUGH THE PERMITTED USE I FIND SOME I COULD AGREE WITH AND SOME I COULD NOT. IN READING THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE I FIND SOME I CAN AGREE WITH AND SOME I CANNOT THE REASON I BRING TIS UP IS THAT THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE TO CG THATS ALL. IN READING THROUGH THE CG SETBACKS I FIND THEM GROSSLY INADEQUATE, I FIND A SIDE' YARD OF FIVE FEET EXCEPT TEN FEET WHEN ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, A REAR YARD OF TEN FEET EXCEPT THIRTY FEET WHEN ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. THESE ARE THE CG RESTRICTIONS WHEN THESE MINUTE SETBACKS ARE PUT AGAINST THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL PUD SETBACKS OF 100 TO 200 FT THERE IS NO COMPARISON BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO ALLOW THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE TO CG I AM CONCERNED THIS PROPERTY GOING TO CG AND NOT KNOWING WHAT IS GOING TO BE PUT THERE I HAVE SEEN THE PROPOSAL FOR A COMMERCIAL PUD BUT THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WILL COME ABOUT ANY NUMBER OF THINGS COULD STAND iN ITS WAY SUCH AS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE COMMERCIAL PUD ORDINANCE WiLL NEVER BE ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL OR AS OUR BOARD ATTORNEY HAS SUGGESTED THAT IF THE SETBACKS ARE TOO RESTRICTIVE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL JUST USE IT UP AS CG AND FORGET THE PUD. THAT IS TOO-OPEN ENDED FOR ME. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS REQUEST FOR LAND USE CHANGE AND A REQUEST FOR A COMMERCIAL PUD MOVE THROUGH OUR PROCEDURES CONCURRENTLY. THIS WAY WE WOULD HAVE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO REVIEW BEFORE A REZONING WAS APPROVED IF THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO GUARANTEE WHAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AND BEING A NEIGHBOR THAT IS A HIGH RISK FOR ME I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AGAIN THAT I AM NOT AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL BUT I WOULD SUGGEST YOU MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5, 1986 PAGE FIVE PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THIS REQUEST FOR CG AS IT IS PRESENTED SOMEHOW THiS REQUEST SHOULD RUN CONCURRENT WITH A REQUEST FOR A COMMERCIAL PUD THEY SHOULD MOVE THROUGH THE SYSTEM TOGETHER. THEN WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE WHERE THANK YOU RANDY GIVES HIS COMMENTS REGARDING THIS. ART HALGREN MEMBER CONSTRUCTION LICENSING BOARD FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS HAVE BEEN AMEMBER AND HAVE SEEN A LOT OF NEW CONTRACTORS COME BEFORE THEM AS MANY AS TWELVE TO FOURTEEN COMING INTO THE CITY WE HAVE NO TRACT RECORD ON WHAT THEY WILL DO OR HOW THEY WILL PERFORM WE DO OUR BEST TO SCREEN THEM AND CHECK THEM OUT HERE WE HAVE A MAN WITH A TRACK RECORD THAT IS PROVEN WE CAN LOOK AT PROJECTS HE HAS DONE HE HAS BEEN MORE THEN EAGER TO COMPLY ONE GENTLEMEN SAiD HE HADN'T BEEN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A MATTER OF MY BUSINESS I AM IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON A DAILY BASIS AND THEY ARE REALLY CRAMPED THE LIBRARY THE LADY POINTED OUT THE SCHOOLS ON BOTH SIDES WHAT BETTER PLACE FOR A LIBRARY THEN RIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO MAJOR SCHOOLS IT MAKES SENSE iT IS BEHIND THE TIMES ALREADY THE CITY HALL EVEN WITH ALL THE REMODELING THEY HAVE DONE RECENTLY HECTOR'S OFFICE NEEDS MORE ROOM BUILDING DEPARTMENT NEEDS MORE ROOM AND THE GROWTH AND THE TIME THIS PROJECT TAKES JUST TO GET IT UNDERWAY THROUGH ALL THE HURDLES ITS GOT TO GO THROUGH I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THEM EVERY ASSIATANCE THEY CAN AND GIVE THEM EVERY CONSIDERATION BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE THAT HE HAS DONE BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE IS A MAN THAT WE CAN TRUST, DEPEND ON NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HIM LEAVING THE PROJECT BEHIND WE HAVE HAD PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH SURVEYORS HAD PROBLEMS WITH CONTRACTORS WE HAD TO GO CHASE AND FIND WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING BONDING CONTRACTORS HERE YOU GOT A MAN WE KNOW WILL FOLLOW THROUGH ON A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOOD FOR THE CITY THAT IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS AND IT WON'T HURT THE AREA AROUND IT. NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC . CLOSED AT 7:55 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING MOTION TO RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. BACK TO ORDER AT 8:05 P.M. ALL MEMBERS PRESENT CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH BACK IN HIS SEAT. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5,1986 PAGE SIX APPROVAL OF MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING OF MAY 8th MINUTES - MOTION BY MR. THOMPSON TO APPROVE THE MINUTES SECONDED BY MR. FULLERTON UNANIMOUS THE MINUTES OF MAY 15TH MR THOMPSON REQUESTS THAT THE WORDS OF "MAY 1, 1986" TO THE FIRST PAGE UNDER APPROVAL OF MINUTES TO DENOTE WHAT MINUTES WERE APPROVED. MR. THOMPSON MADE A MOTION THAT THE MINUTES OF MAY 15 BE APPROVED AS CORRECTED SECONDED BY MR WADSWORTH UNANIMOUS OLD BUSINESS: RECOMMENDATION RE CHESSER GAP TRACT MR. EISENBARETH STATES HE IS GOING TO BACK OUT OF THE DISCUSSION AGAIN AND WHILE HE DOESN'T FEEL THAT THERE IS A CONFLICT HE DOESN'T WANT THERE TO BE AN ILLUSION OF IT AND HE WILL FILE THE NECESSARy PAPERS. SEE ATTACHED. MR. MAHONEY TAKES OVER THE MEETING AGAIN MR. WADSWORTH MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST SECONDED BY MR. OLTMAN FOR DISCUSSION MR. THOMPSON STATES UNDER DISCUSSION HE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT A QUESTION OR TWO DR FISCHER COMES TO THE MICHROPHONE MR. THOMPSON HAS SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE WARRANTY DEEDS FOR THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION MR FULLERTON ASKS IF THE ADVERTISEMENT NEEDS TO BE READVERTISED. MR THOMPSON SAYS AS PER CITY CLERK IT IS A LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT MR. THOMPSON ASKS WHY MR FRANCO DID NOT GIVE HIS OPINION HECTOR STATES HE WAS NOT REQUESTED TO GIVE HIS COMMENTS MR MAHONEY ASKS FOR HECTORS COMMENTS MR FRANCO SAYS BOTH SHOULD BE DONE AT SAME TIME TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT THEY CAN WORK OUT THE PROBLEMS. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5,1986 PAGE SEVEN DR FISCHER SAYS HE WOULD GLADLY GIVE A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT - IF PUD ZONING IS NOT APPROVED - THE ZONING WILL BE RESCINDED. MR. WADSWORTH SAYS DEALING WITH CORP AND NOT AN INDIVIDUAL SECONDLY ANYTHING THAT GOES INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THE SITE PLAN. MR. THOMPSON ASKS THAT MOTION BE MODIFIED THAT WE RECEIVE ASSURANCE FROM CHESSER GAP CORP THAT THEY WILL NOT ASK FOR ZONING CHANGE EXCEPT UNDER THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL PUD. MR. WADSWORTH SAYS HE CANNOT AMEND THE MOTION. MR OLTMAN QUESTIONS PROCEDURE MR WADSWORTH AMENDS HIS MOTION AND SECOND IS AMENDED ALSO MR. OLTMAN - YES MR. THOMPSON - YES MR. MAHONEY - YES MR. WADSWORTH - YES MR. FULLERTON - YES CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH RETURNS TO THE CHAIR. ASKS FOR REPRESENTATIVES FOR MR PHILIPSONS PROJECT RANDY MOSBY GIVES A BRIEF DISCUSSION CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH SAYS IT ISN'T WITHIN THE BOARDS POWERS TO DEFINE THE BOUNDARYS. MR. WADSWORTH QUESTIONS WHETHER IT COULD BE ACTED ON AS A CONTINGENCY BASIS MR. FRANCO MENTIONS MR CLOUTIER STOP ON THE CLEARING RANDY SAYS THEY ARE ONLY CLEARING UNDERBRUSH AND THAT IS ALLOWED. MR WADSWORTH SAYS HE SAW THE PROPERTY AND IT WAS ONLY UNDERBRUSH THEY WERE CLEARING OUT MR THOMPSON QUESTIONS DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT RANDY SAYS THEY DO NOT HAVE TO SPECIFY USE TO GET A LAND USE CHANGE MR MAHONEY ASKS WHO OWNS SURROUNDING PROPERTY MR EISENBARTH QUESTIONS ABANDONED RIGHT OF WAY RANDY SAYS IT IS ON REGISTERED SURVEY SHOWS ABANDONMENT. MR THOMPSON SAYS WE CAN'T TELL FROM THE DRAWING WHAT MR PHILLIPSON NEEDS CHANGED. RANDY GIVES SAME DESCRIPTION OVER REGARDING BOUNDARY LINES NOT DEFINED ON MAP. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING PAGE EIGHT REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5,1986 IT WAS SUGGESTED WE CHECK SECTION II - 111-8 UNCERTAINTIES PROCEDURES FOR LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ZONING CHANGES MR. WADSWORTH MADE A MOTION WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL CONTINGENT UPON MR MOSBY WORKING WITH STAFF TO DEFINE LEGAL BOUNDARIES BEFORE NOTIFICATION AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING DATE. Mr. THOMPSON SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH WANTS THIS POSTPONED OR TABLED UNTIL THE LEGAL COMES BACK. RANDY SAYS DON'T PENALIZE HIS CLIENT IF THE CITY CAN'T PROVIDE THE INFORMATION REQUIRED TO ADVERTISE. MR. WADSWORTH AGREES WITH MR. MOSBY NO FURTHER DISCUSSION MR. WADSWORTH - YES MR. OLTMAN - YES MR. THOMPSON - NO MR. MAHONEY NO MR. FULLERTON - NO CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH - NO MOTION FAILS MR. THOMPSON MADE A MOTION WE AUTHORIZE SECRETARY TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZONING AND LAND USE CHANGE ON THE APPLICATION FOR MR PHILIPSON AFTER THE STAFF AND MR PHILLIPSON CONSULTING ENGINEERING PROVIDE A LEGAL THAT WILL SATISFY OUR ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS MOTION WAS SECONDED BY MR. MAHONEY MR. OLTMAN - YES MR. THOMPSON - YES MR. MAHONEY- YES MR. FULLERTON - yes MR. WADSWORTH - YES CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH - NO MOTION CARRIED. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5, 1986 PAGE NINE ALPHA TOOL - MR AND MRS SMITH MR JACK DAVIES SPEAKS ON BEHALF OF THE SMITH'S MR. DAVIE'S GIVES A SHORT TALK REGARDING HIS CLIENTS AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. MR. OLTMAN ASKS TO CLARIFY REQUEST IS ONLY FOR LOTS SIX AND SEVEN MR. EISENBARTH ASKS REGARDING OUTSIDE STORAGE. MR SMITH SAYS HE IS AWARE HE CANNOT HAVE ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE. MR. OLTMAN MADE A MOTION TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING SECONDED BY MR. MAHONEY. MR. THOMPSON ASKS ARE WE PROVIDING AN ENCLAVE. MR. EISENBARTH EXPLAINS IT IS NOT AN ENCLAVE BECAUSE THERE IS A BUILDING ON IT. MR. THOMPSON IS SATISFIED WITH DISCUSSION ANY MORE DISCUSSION MR. OLTMAN - YES MR. THOMPSON - YES Mr. MAHONEY - YES MR WADSWORTH - YES MR. FULLERTON - YES CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH - YES NO HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSES. NEW BUSINESS: LIQUOR LICENSE ART HALGREN MR. HALGREN GIVES A BRIEF DESCRIPTION MR MAHONEY CLARIFIES IT TO BE TAKE OUT ONLY CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH SAYS ZONING CG MR. THOMPSON ASKS IF IT IS A PERMITTED USE IT IS. MR. FULLERTON ASKS ABOUT HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL. MR. HALGREN SAYS IT IS NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE IT IS ONLY TAKE OUT. MR. THOMPSON MADE A MOTION WE GIVE CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH PERMISSION TO SIGN THE ORIGINAL FORM SECONDED BY MR. OLTMAN. MR. OLTMAN SAID HE CHECKED WITH THEPOLICE CHIEF AND HE HAD NO OBJECTIONS. UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING PAGE TEN REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5,1986 CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH ASKS IF CHAIRMANS MATTERS COULD COME AFTER MEMBERS MATTERS. MEMBERS MATTERS: MR OLTMAN ASKS REGARDING THE APPENDIX A - OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UNDER CL. MR. THOMPSON ADVISES HE ADD A C UNDER CG FOR DRIVE IN RESTAURANTS MR. OLTMAN QUESTIONS WHY WE DON'T CHANGE FLORIDA FEDERALS ZONING AS WELL TO CONFORM TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE BOARD CAN INITIATE OR THE CITY COUNCIL CAN INITIATE TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY. MORE DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS ZONING CHANGE NO OTHER MEMBERS WANTED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT iT. MR. MAHONEY QUESTIONS CHANGES OF USES SAYS WE DO NOT GET THEM ALL. POSSIBLY WE COULD ASK LINDA OR HECTOR ONE WHAT THE BOARDS RESPONSIBILITY IS IN LOOKING AT CHANGE OF USES. SOMETIMES THEY ARE APPROVED AT THE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE AREA AND MAYBE WE NEED TO ADVISE THE CITY CLERKS OFFICE WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. MR. MAHONEY SAYS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL HAD A SIGN HE HAD TO REMOVE BECAUSE IT WAS WITHIN FIFTEEN FEET OF A ROADWAY NO OTHER MEMBERS MATTERS CHAIRMANS MATTERS: CHAIRMAN STATES HE WILL MAKE THE CURB CUTS AN AGENDA ITEM AT A FUTURE MEETING CHAIRMAN SAYS IF YOU LOOK AT 20A 8.4 PARKING IT STATES YOU CAN PARK IN THE SETBACK. HECTOR SAYS YOU SHOULD GET A LEGAL OPINION ON THIS SECTION CHAIRMAN SAYS TO HIM IT IS CUT AND DRY. HECTOR STILL SAYS MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AS IT IS A MATTER OF INTER- PRETATION. CHAIRMAN STATES THAT LINDA BROUGHT TO HIS ATTENTION THAT THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IS JULY 3rdTHE DAY BEFORE THE FOURTH OF JULY IT SEEMS JUST AS GOOD AN IDEA TO CHANGE THE MEETINGS TO THE 10th and THE 24th MR. THOMPSON MADE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE JULY MEETING DATES SECONDED BY MR. FULLERTON. UNANIMOUS MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING JUNE 5,1986 PAGE ELEVEN HECTOR STATES THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MEETINGS ARE GOING TO BE VERY HEAVY. CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH STATES LINDA GOT A REQUEST FOR A CL DEFINITION DOES THE BOARD WANT TO DEAL WITH IT WE HAVE A FEW MINUTES THE REQUEST CAME OVER THE PHONE SECRETARY IS ASKED TO EXPLAIN THE REQUEST. A LADY IN FELLSMERE WANTS TO OPEN A RETAIL SALES AND SERVICE FOR TELEPHONES IT IS NOT DEFINED IF THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SPECIALTY SHOP OR WHAT YOU WOULD CLASSIFY HER. MR. MAHONEY SAYS IT IS A PASSIVE USE AND HE DOESN'T SEE WHY IT COULDN'T BE CONSIDERED IN CL SECRETARY STATES SHE WANTS TO GO IN WASHINGTON PLAZA AND THAT IS ZONED CL. MORE DISCUSSION GOES ON REFERENCE TO ROMAN NUMERAL II - 6 GIVES A LIST OF SOME CL ACTIVITIES MR. THOMPSON MADE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING FOR FIVE MINUTES SECONDED BY MR. MAHONEY PASSED UNANIMOUSLY MR. WADSWORTH MADE A MOTION TO ADVISE THE SECRETARY TO TELL THE WOMAN SHE CAN GO IN WASHINGTON PLAZA SECONDED BY.MR. OLTMAN . 2 OPPOSED EISENBARTH AND THOMPSON 4 AYES CHAIRMAN EISENBARTH ASKS HOW MANY LETTERS WENT OUT TO CHESSER GAP PUBLIC HEARING PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE COST PER LETTER. HE SUGGESTS MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR. FEE SCHEDULE STATEMENT IS MADE THAT THIS WAS AN ISOLATED CASE AND DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY DAY. MOTION TO ADJOURN BY MR. FULLERTON SECRETARY ADVISES THERE IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN ON THE FLOOR CHAIRMAN ASKS IF THERE IS A SECOND GIVEN BY MR. MAHONEY MEETING ADJOURNED BY 10:05 P.M. L. GENE HARRIS Mayor City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958-0127 TELEPHONE (305) 589-5330 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA June 5, 1986 CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL ANNOUNCEMENTS: PUBLIC HEARING: CHESSER GAP TRACT LAND USE DESIGNATION CHANGE APPROVE MINUTES: SPECIAL MAY 8, 1986 REGULAR MAY 15, 1986 OLD BUSINESS: RECOMMENDATION RE: CHESSER GAP TRACT STEVEN PHILLIPSON: ZONING AND LAND USE CHANGE DALE & CYNTHIA SMITH: ZONING AND LAND USE CHANGE NEW BUSINESS: HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE LIQUOR LICENSE: HALLGREN CHAIRMAN'S MATTERS: MEMBER'S MATTERS: ATTORNEY'S MATTERS: ENGINEER'S MATTERS: ADJOURN NOTE; IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTERS HE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS MADE. Hector A. Franco City Engineer