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Home My WebLink About06301997 PZ City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET a SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (561) 589-5330 n FAX (561) 589-5570 2. 3. 4. 6. 7. 8. 9. ENDA SPECIAL MEETING MONDAY, jUNE 30, 1997 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION 7:00 P.M. CALL TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. ANNOUNCEMENTS: OLD BUSINESS: A. Recommendation to City Council - Conceptual PUD Plan - Amendment to Sebastian Lakes - Lennar Corporation B. Recomn~ndation to City Council - Preliminary PUD Plat - Amendment to Sebastian Lakes - Lennar Corporation C. Conceptual Site Plan Review - Jim Zengage, Southern Development Services - Sebastian Lakes PUD -SW Corner CR 512 & Roseland Road CHAIRMAN MATTERS: MEMBERS ~2%TTERS: DIRECTOR MATTERS: ATTORNEY MATTERS: ADJOUR~NT. ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTERS, WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH APPEAL IS TO BE HEARD. SAID APPEAL MUST BE FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THE DATE OF ACTION. (286. 0105 F.S) IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA) , ANYONE WHO NEEDS SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT (407)-589-5330 AT EAST 48 HOURS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (561) 589-5537 [] FAX (561) 589-2566 PUBLIC MEETING CITY OF SE~iAN 1225 MAIN STREET INDIAN RIVER COUNTY FLORiDA THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, WILL HOI,D A SPECIAL MEETING ON MONDAY, JUNE 30TH, 1997 AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. D. BOSWORTH, SECRETARY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION NOTE: IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MAfl~TERS, HE/SHE WILL NEED A.RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES, HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH' RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED. NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABI~TIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589.5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. CITY OF SEBASTIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING MONDAY, JUNE 30, 1997 Chron. Fischer called the meeting to order at 7:04 P.M. ROI,-L CALL: PRESENT: Mr. Munsart Mr. Johns Ms. Kilkeily (a) Chmn. Fischer Ml'.Mather Mr. Schulke Ms. ¥~sia EXCUSED ABSENCE: Mr. Plisl~ ALSO PRESENT: Robort ~lli, Community Development Director Ann Brack, Reco~-_~ Secreta~ ANNOUNCEMENTS: Chnm. Fischer announced that Ms. Kilkelly will bo voting in place of tho absent mmnbors. He also noted that this issue will bo ~ing before City Council tm July 16, 1997, if this Committee makes a OLD BUSINESS: RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL CONCEPTUAL PUD PLAN AMENDMENT TO SEBASTIAN LAKES - LENNAR CORPORATION Mr. Ralph Cochran, Presid~ of Sebastian Lakes Dev~opmont Corporati~o, with.~ at 2072 Meadowlane Avenue, Melbourne, FL, was present re~resenting the applicant. Highlands. He also noted that it is a lifestyle issue. He wmt on to describo tbo lifestyle that will Mr. Cochran then compared his proposed community to Victoria Isles at Grand Harbor, on 40' x 110' lots, the avorag~ product price is $225,000 - this is an extreme example. Anoth~ project on Rt. 60 west in Veto called Cambridge Park, on 40' x 110' lots, in the $90,000 range. He.nmmt that there may also be some villas in Reflections in Sebastian that might bo comparabl~, and these are Indian River County examples that would compare to his proposed community. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF SUNE 30, 1997 Sebastian Lakes is a failed Planned Unit Devetepma~ failing for a number of reasons in his opiniou: attached living units which were not in keeping with the market, and it got caught up in the recesmon of the late 1980's. He commcntcdthat what he wants to offer is verymuch like what At this point, examples of possible floor plans and the~ p~ on the lots were projected on the overhead screen. Ms. Vesia asked i~the 8mage ~ at 16' 8" x 19' 4" was a single or doubte iMrage. Mr. Cochran responded that it is a double. square fl~ plus a 360 square foot ~,ra~ and a covered entryv~y. The smallest oftlm units shown offmed 1,0~8 square ~ ~ m ~ ~. Mr. Cochran explained the central rccreafi~ ammities. He also responded to Cbnm..Fiscbcr's question, that ov~ on the units would be a min~um of~ (18) inches. feet undm- air, plus a two-car ~. PUBLIC INPOT: Chnm. Fischer opened the public hearing at 7:14 P.M. A~ Vos~ Chuck Neutm,~m Keith Miller Bill VanValkenbers Gary W~ Robert Crockett Harry Thomas Frank Obcrbeck Ray Crrouud and, ~ s~ions, ue~c c~ consisumcr o~ housin~ divers~ o~ housin~ conserva~ impact on schools, drainage, traffic, five (5) foot side setbacks, roads and maintenance, placement of U'ees, a/c units, etc., age limit (none), children (allowed), minimum and maxinnnn price on propm~ and homes (approx. SS0,000 on package), mandatory lawn maintenance, chmgcs of developers, b~ areas and berms, and quality o~buyers. PLANNINO AND ZONiNO COMMISSION MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEEtiNG OF JUNE :~0, 1997 Mr. Massarelh responded that he is bound, professionally and ethically, to what is in the Ccsnprdam~ivo Plan and the Land Development Codo. He explained that every application must be evaluated by the standards inthesetwo ~. He notodthe sixteen (16) cxmdititms noted in the staff retx~ and exp~ai,~! that th¢~ aro an indi,~oo of the differences ~ his project. According to Florida Statutes, proponcn~ are required to get outside experts, just as the Mr. Vogel disputed item 9.j., Public Interest, in the staff report on page five (5). in 1985, and then I want to seethe proposed site plan in another tnmsparmcy, so they eau be super, in-qxaed and w~ ca~ see exactly what tho chansos are from one to tho other, and I want them Mr. Harry Thcanas spoke and asked why tho City ~was not presemt to make a prm~tafion on this project. A break was taken at 8:3:3 P.M., and the meeting resumed at 8:42 P.M. with all previous members pr~mt. Chnm. Fisch~ closed th~ public hearing at 8:50 P.M. Staff mspond~ to issues mentioned by the public; schools, drainase and Saint John's River Water ~ PUD (provided for in the Code), process for tmminagon of concqXual .plan by City Council, time limits for each phase of proposed plans, sewer and water servi~ d~iafion from o 'nginal plan, and the reason for the present shape of the library property. At this point, Mr. Schulke went over his report, on his interp~on of the Code on this issue (attached). He mmti~ that th~ are numeax~ waivers involved in this PUD, ami re~mmnendcd that this Conceptual PUD Plan be r~sub~ to ~ Coamission, or deeM. fur lack of Mr, Massarelli noted that some issues I~et addressed later in the four-step.p~, a~ that the Cmmgssion can ask for more information at mis point, but staff can't. He also ncced"~ there is a developers agreement in place. And he indicaUxi that no waivers had been requested by the Ms. Kilkelly questioned the issue of the Library and ~ property bein~ comidered."open, space". PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION · MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF/UNE 30, 1997 Mr. Sony Dean, Director of ~ Sotvi~ for Indian River County, was pros~t and spoke on the County Library and furore plans for e~pan~ion. F/~ ~ that the County phumed to expand the Library to the south and still me~t all of the Code ~, and he also pointed out that the possible plan to route Ixaffic throughout the Library Parking lot~ Ms. Kilkelly asked if the retention pond behind the Library would be involved-in,.any of Mr. Cochran's plans. Mr. Cochran ~that it wouldnot. Staff zxplained the curb v-'x,t plan for the entire le~,h of CR 512 that calls for inlerconnecfing driveways and miningzing the number of curb ohs on CR 512 to avoid conflicts ami ~on. The Library ~ plan, approved in 1989, shows a fimu~ access road to the parking on the Staff ~xplained the reasoning behind classifying the Library site as "open sPace'', which :.is part of the PUD. There was discussion on this issue. Mr. Mather o~ a ~ ~ p~ and cons thusfar: PROS S80,000 3 bedroonL 2 bath, 2-~ar garage Condos are well Buffer to nearby honms Comply with the tree ordinance Supports business naxt to the Library The market is for older people who don't want a yard ~ to St: Johns is okay CONS 5-footsides~ba~ He also r~munendod ( in the LDC page 1.2.1-Impact on Surrounding Home Values - expect property appraiser to give testimony that housing value would not go down), that the City should 4 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF JUNE 30, 1997 of so many residents. He noted problem areas on the site plan. There was discussion on the tennis courts. Mr. Schulke offemt to make a motion unless Mr. Cochrm~ waat~ to respond to tim issues in his (Mr. Schulke's) report. mnisht. Mr. Schulke noted that it ~ras his impression that Mr. Cochran didn't wish to address any of the basic additional informatic~ ~ that Mr. Schu~ ~ earlier, including justification for any Mr. Cochran responded that to his knowledge, they w~e nc~ asking for any w~ive~s, and he was not in a position tonight, lmving s~m Mr. Schulke's le~thy r~port, to reslX~ to it c~ am, et~2o) Mr. Schulke commen~ that he was not asking for a response now, but by ~he Code, the Commission can ask for additi~ infonmtim, and he is ~ Mr. Cochrm tho ~ to ~ this information at a subsequent ~ or bring it back to the Commission, and if he MOTION by Schuike/Vesia address th~o items, and we would give him an opportunity to do so at aaoth~ ~, and w~ have th~ ~ in the Land Developmmt Code, I believe, umtm- Section 20A- 4.9.E.3.b., page 260, to rmluire conditiom and modificafiom, and w~ have the right to require additional information, page 20A-4.13.a.6, page 262, (and l~t me mak~ sure I'm in the right section he~) request for additional information Section 20A-4.9.~.3.g, on page 246, we r~luest- additional im%tmatio~ based on ~ which is in the ~ portion of the PUD, based on that and the developer does nc~ want to address at this tima, I would criteria, and based oo what I p~rcoive to be non-compliauc~ with basic mhamum City codes, and minimum standards, that are set out in Article 17 of this Code. PLANNINC~D ZONINO CO~,ealSSlO~ ' ~ OF SPECIAL MEETING OF JUNE 30, 1997 Discussion: Mr. Massarelli advised (P. & Z) council (Commissic~a) that, according to Chaptor. 163.3164 of the Florida Statutes, that th~ granting, deaying or granting with conditions aa ~ for development order has to be consistent with tho Compmlgmiv~ Plan, and rmommmded that they ~ a finding of exacttY wh~ th~ application is i~onsimat with the Compndaatsiv~ Plan. That He also advised that ti~ Land Dewlopmmt Cod~ is not part of tho Compre/m~ive Plan. TI~ I)~lopm~ Coc~ implmmm th~ Compreimm~ Plan, but it is a separate do~n~, Aaain, he advis~ th~ Ccavnissicm to mak~ a finding of what policies, goals and obje~tiws that thc application is inconsistent with in tho Comp~ive Plan. Ms. KilkeHy read fxom tho Comp~hemive Plan (~als, Objectives and Polici~ i~ 128, la.st paragraph o£Policy 1-2.6.1, Planmd Unit Dzv~pmmt, Overlay designation. I ana~d Mr. Schulk~'s motion m indud~ this slatem~ from gae Compr~ive plan as follows: 'I~vdopers who volumadly partici~ in ~he procass shall bind limvselv~, as we, Il as flaosa who Ms. gilkelly~a) - y~ Thevotewas 7 -0. Motica carried, Mr. Johns - yes Chmn. Fisclm' -yes Mr. $chulke -yes RECOMMENDATiON TO CiTY COUNCIL PRELIMINARY PUD PLAT - AMENDMENT TO SEBASTIAN LAKES - LENNAR CORPORATiON Since the Conceptual PUD Plan was dmi~l, this item required no action. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF JUNE 30, 1997 CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN REVIEW - JIM ZENGAGE, SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT SERVICF~ - SEBASTIAN LAKES PUD - SW CORNER CR 512 & ROSELAND ROAD Mr. Mass~lli gave sta~ presentation. There was discussion on this issue, and Mr. Munsart noted a possible traffic problem with the driveway (northern entrance). Mr. ~oe May~r, project en~ine~, located at 100 Comell Street, M~'itt Island, noted that proper tra~c ent~n~rin~ design would line up driw~mys ~ possible which decr~es.tl~ number of traffic conflicts. ~ of driveways that are across the street from each other is actually pr~ble From an ~ standpoint. Mt. S~un~ ~ui~ ~ t~ ~ ~a ~ o~ Ca The consm~s of the Commission was that this conceptual site plan is ~le. Clmm. Fisc~r adjoum~ tt~ ~ at I0:30 P.M. (?~10/0'7 City of Sebastian 122fi MAiN STREET a SEBASTIAN, 'FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (561) 589-5330 a FAX (561) 589-5570 CiTY OF SEBASTIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING ~ E. ANN BP, ACK, RECORDING SECKETAKY ~-~ DORI BOSWORTH, SECRETARY ?ZMAF