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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 3, 2000
This meeting was voice broadcast over Charter Communication Cable Television Channel 35.
Chairman Schulke called the meeting to order at 7:03 pm.
The Pledge of Allegiance was said,
ROLL CALL: PRESENT:
EXCUSED ABSENCE:
ALSO PRESENT:
Mr, O'Donnell
Chmn. Schulke
Mr. Smith
Ms. Carbano(a)
VC Mather
Tracy Hass, Growth Management Director
Dorri Bosworth, Secretary
Rich Stringer, City Attorney
ANNUNCEMENTS:
Chmn. Schulke announced that City Council
status.
has appointed Mr.
Mr. Mahoney
Mr. Barrett
Ms. Vesia
Smith to full member
He noted that VC Mather is excused from tonight's meeting and Ms. Carbano(a) will be
voting in his place.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: (7/20/00)
MOTION by Barrett/Vesia
I recommend we approve the minutes of July 20, 2000.
A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0, motion carried.
NEW BUSINESS:
Attorney Stringer explained the Public Hearing and Quasi Judicial Hearing process.
A. Recommendation to City Council - Public Hearing - Special Use Permit-
Car Wash Facility- C512 Zoning District- K. Chestnut
Randy Mosby of Mosby & Associates, Vero Beach, FL, was present representing the
applicant. Randy and Tracy Hass were sworn in by the Chairman.
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Mr. Mosby gave a brief presentation and addressed the drainage issue and the condition
of the alley,
Tracy Hass gave staff presentation which recommended approval of the special use
permit and the site plan with two conditions as outlined in the staff report.
Mr. Mo. sby noted that the applicant is in the process of obtaining permits from Indian
River County Utilities for a lift station and the water flow will be completely self-
contained. He also noted that the water will be recycled with minimal discharge to public
sewer, There was further discussion of the water source and disposal. It was also
noted that this facility will have a restroom.
Chmn. Schulke opened the public hearing at 7:23.
Mr. Arthur Harris, 861 Dale Circle, commented that the two other car washes in town are
enough, and spoke in opposition to this application. Ms, Shirley Harris of the same
address spoke on this issue also,
Ms. Mary Rose McCarthy, 874 Wentworth St., spoke in opposition to this permit.
The issue of hours of operation were discussed and Mr. Hass noted that this is an issue
that can be addressed. Mr. Mosby noted the buffers for the lights and suggested
installing an eight (8) foot fence, and commented that this applicant would comply with
the same hours of operation as allowed at the car wash facilities on U.S. #1. It was
noted that an eight (8) foot fence would have to be approved by Planning and Zoning.
The issue of stop bars, stop signs, and the placement of the sidewalk and bike path
were discussed, Mr, Mosby agreed to include an additional stop bar and another stop
sign at the property line.
Mr. Hass read parts of the code that pertain to "drive-through facilities".
Ms, McCarthy spoke again about the hours of operation.
Mr. Kenneth Chestnut, 9848 - 88th St., Vero Lakes Estates, one of the owners of the car
wash, spoke of his desire to keep a clean car wash and be on good terms with the
neighboring residents, He expressed his opinion that 10:00 pm seemed like a
reasonable time to close this facility,
John Scherer, 841 Wentworth Street, agreed with a 10:00 pm closing time, and
commented on the water usage and disposal,
Chmn. Schulke closed the public hearing at 7:51 pm.
Mr. Barrett suggested the Commission consider the 10:00 pm closing time as a condition
of approval. Mr. Smith also noted the sidewalk issue. The members also mentioned the
eight (8) ft. high opaque fence,
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There was a discussion about installing a masonry fence, and the owner agreed to a
masonry wall, eight (8) feet high.
MOTION by Barrett/Smith
I'll make a motion we recommend to City Council approval of the special use
permit including the recommendations by staff, but also including
recommendations from the Commission that a stop sign be installed on property
side of the sidewalk on egress, an eight (8) foot masonry wall be installed instead
of the six (6) foot wall shown on the plan, that hours of operation be from 7:00 am
to 10:00 pm.
Roll call:
Mr. Barrett - yes Chmn, Schulke - yes
Ms, Vesia - yes Mr. Mahoney - yes
Mr, Smith - yes Mr. O'Donnell - yes
Ms, Carbano(a) - yes
The vote was 7 - 0, Motion carried.
B. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Site Plan Review - Chestnut 512 Carwash -
Lots 12 thru 15, Block 186 - Fellsmere Road
Chmn. Schulke opened the hearing at 7:55 pm. NO ex parte' communications were
reported.
Randy Mosby made note of his prior testimony and made himself available to answer
any questions, He noted that the auto vacuums will make very little noise.
Mr. Hass noted that his previous presentation stands for this hearing,
There were no presentations from proponents or opponents and the Chairman closed
the hearing at 7:59 pm,
MOTION bY Barrett/Smith
I'll recommend that we approve the site plan for the Chestnut 512 Carwash
based on the conditions established in the special use permit previously
approved,
Roll call:
Ms. Vesia - yes Mr. Barrett - yes
Mr. O'Donnell - yes Mr. Mahoney - yes
Mr. Smith - yes Ms. Carbano(a) - yes
Chmn. Schulke ~ yes
The vote was 7 - 0, Motion carried.
(A break was taken from 8:01 to 8:14 pm, with all members previously present
returning,)
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C. Recommendation to City Council - Public Hearing - Preliminary Plat
Review - Acorn Acres Subdivision - Fellsmere Road
D, Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Site Plan Review - Acorn Mini-Storage -
Phase II- 189 Fellsmere Road - David Fahmie
There were no ex parte' communications reported.
Chmn. Schulke opened the Quasi-Judicial hearing at 8:15 pm.
Todd Smith, 440 11th Lane, SW, Vero Beach, was sworn in by the Chairman at 8:17 pm,
Mr. Smith gave his presentation and noted the reasons for creating a one lot subdivision.
He indicated that this facility will be similar to phase I and will have a new fire hydrant,
He also gave explanation of a "Murphy easement".
Tracy Hass gave staff presentation noting that condition #2 in the staff report has
already been indicated on the site plan.
After discussion, it was clarified that this is a ~ project.
There were no proponents or opponents to this project.
Staff summarization was a recommendation of approval.
MOTION by Barrett/O'Donnell
I'll recommend that we approve the preliminary plat for Acorn Acres Subdivision.
Roll call: Mr, Mahoney - yes Mr, Barrett - yes
Mr. Smith - yes Ms. Carbano(a) - yes
Chmn. Schulke - yes Ms. Vesia - yes
Mr, O'Donnell - yes
The vote was 7 - 0. Motion carried.
MOTION by Barrett/Carbano(a)
I'll make the motion that we approve the site plan for Acorn Mini-Storage in
accordance with the staff report recommendation to deal with the landscaping.
Roll call:
Mr. O'Donnell - yes Mr, Mahoney - yes
Chmn. Schulke - yes Mr. Barrett - yes
Mr. Smith - yes Ms. Vesia - yes
Ms. Carbano(a) - yes
The vote was 7 - 0, Motion carried.
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CHAIRMAN, MATTERS: None
MEMBERS MATTERS:
There was discussion about revising the site plan review fee, and Mr. Hass noted that all
fees are going to be reviewed in the coming months.
Mr. O'Donnell suggested that all members be notified of the meetings by computer e-
mail. He also suggested a safety reil at the one end of the dais,
DIRECTOR MATTERS:
Tracy noted that the site plan for Ameritrend will be presented at a later date.
He also noted a site plan for Maxwell Plumbing that will be coming before this
Commission, and it is regulated by the old code,
ATTORNEY MATTERS: None
Chmn. Schulke adjourned the meeting at 8:44 pm.