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Home My WebLink About10081992 PZ City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 ~ SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 D FAX (407) 589-5570 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL WORKSHOP AGENDA OCTOBER 8, 1992 7:00 P.M. CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL ANNOUNCEMENTS APPROVE MINUTES: OLD BUSINESS: NONE DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED TREE ORDINANCE NEW BUSINESS: NONE PUBLIC INPUT: NONE ADJOURN NOTE: IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTERS, HE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS MADE. SAID APPEAL MUST BE FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK°S OFFICE WITHIN TEN DAYS FROM DATE OF ACTION. City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) 589.5330 s FAX (407) 589-5570 PUBLIC NOTICE CITY OF SEBASTIAN 1225 MAIN STREET INDIAN RIVER COUNTY SEBASTIAN,FLORDIA THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE HOLDING A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED TREE ORDINANCE ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8TH, 1992 AT 7:00 P.M. IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1992 VICE CHAIRMAN THOMPSON OPENED THE MEETING AT 7:00 P.M. PRESENT; MR. THOMPSON, MRS. KILKELLY, MR. SHROYER MR. FISCHER, MR. GOLDSTEIN, MRS. DAMP ABSENT; MR. FULLERTON, MR. FIRTION AND MR. KRULIKOWSKI ALL EXCUSED ALSO PRESENT; LINDA KINCHEN, SECRETARY, BRUCE COOPER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPEMENT, CATHY HILTON ARRIVED LATE ANNOUNCEMENTS; MR. THOMPSON ASKS FOR MOTION TO ADD RETENTION OF CITY PLANNER POSITION TO THE AGENDA. A MOTION TO ADD WAS MADE BY MRS. KILKELLY SECOND MRS. DAMP PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. ------------------------------------------------------------- APPROVAL OF MINUTES - NONE TREE ORDINANCE DISCUSSION: MR. COOPER GOES OVER THE PROPOSED ITEMS WITH THE COMMISSION: FOOTPRINT PLUS 5 AROUND PER SHIRLEY SHOULD REMAIN. TREE PROTECTION PLAN SHOULD BE REQUIRED AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POINT SYSTEM USED MR. SHROYER, MR. GOLDSTEIN AND MRS. DAMP ALL FEEL THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS TOO COSTLY AND TOO LENGTHY. THE COMMISSION AGREED THAT THERE SHOULD BE 7 TREES MINIMUM 6 FEET HIGH EXCEPT CITRUS WHICH CAN BE FOUR FEET THE COMMISSION GOES OVER ITEMS ON PAGE TWO ONE BY ONE ITEM 1 IS REPLACED WITH MR. SHROYERS.SUGGESTION OF 90% OF THE FIRST 10,000 AND 500 SQ FEET FOR EACH ADDITIONAL 1000 SQ FT. ITEM #2 TREES TO BE EIGHT FOOT HIGH AND 10 FOOT HIGH WITH CAALIBER TO BE DETERMINED BY'FORESTRY DEPARTMENT AFTER DISCUSSION WITH BRUCE. ITEM 3 TO BE KEPT IN THE NEW ORDINANCE ITEM 4 NEEDED ONLY TO SHOW MINIMUM TREES OR TREES TO REMAIN UNTOUCHED. ITEM 5 SHOULD BE USED TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM NUMBER REQUIRED IF SAVES BIG TREES. RECESS CALLED AT 8:35 P.M. BACK AT 8:45 P.M. la PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OCTOBER 8, 1992 PAGE TWO NEW BUSINE86 ADDITION TO AGENDA: CITY PLANNER RETENTION MR. THOMPSON EXPLAINS THAT HE REQUESTED THIS BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE DISCUSSING IT AT THEIR REGULAR MEETING ON OCTOBER 14, 1992 AND HE FEELS THE COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO RETAIN THE POSITION. THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION BY THE MEMBERS AND THEN A MOTION TO PREPARE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION TO RETAIN THE POSITION OF CITY PLANNER WAS MADE BY MRS. KILKELLY SECOND MR. SHROYER PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. MR. GOLDSTEIN MADE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION TO INCORPORATE MR. SHROYER'S COMMENTS MADE UNDER DISCUSSION SECOND MR. SHROYER PASSED UNANIMOUSLY `� MAIN MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY COPY OF THE LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION IS ATTACHED AND MADE A PART OF THESE MINUTES. BRUCE COOPER SPEAKS REGARDING 8 FOOT FENCES FOR PROPERTIES ABUTTING CR 512 WANTS TO AMEND THE CODE TO ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO OBTAIN PERMITS FOR EIGHT FOOT FENCES WITHOUT A VARIANCCE. THE COMMISSION HAS NO PROBLEMS. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:15 P.M. `-� City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 [] FAX (407) 589-5570 MEMORANDUM DATE; October 9, 1992 TO: Mayor and City Council THROUGH: Robert S. McClary City Manager FROM: Planning and Zoning Commission~~ RE: Funding of City Planner Position At their Special meeting held on Thursday, October 8, 1992, the Planning and Zoning commission made the following motion. A motion to recommend to City Council that the position of City Planner be retained. The comments of the members are as follows: Mr. Goldstein: "There is a phase that God is in the details I don't know who said that but I agree I haven't been here very long but I can tell you that without professional assistance, we on the Planning Commission are going to have some of those details drop by the wayside and therefore, I would urge the rest of the Commissioners to support retaining the position of the City Planner and lets keep the details in our code. Mr. Shroyer "Basically the City Planner and the City Engineer have made our Job a beck of a lot easier they have also picked up on a lot of items that have been dropped along the wayside over the past seven or eight years and for those two reasons alone I think it is worthwhile keeping her. I may not agree 100% with you but" Mrs. Kilkelly states "I would like to say to me that the City Planner has provided us with guidance, not Just made our jobs easier but has provided us with guidance and also given us some visibility of what we do in the future, therefore, I feel it is necessary to retain the Job and more specifically to retain the City Planner that we have. " Mrs. Damp, "I previously spoke Cathy your were not here, but I previously spoke at the very beginning of the meeting would you like.me to restate my concern" Chairman states Please. "I too feel that a City Planner in the caliber of Miss Hilton she has been our liaison, the one we turn to for guidance, and helping us do our job and who would we have to do this work behind the scenes if it were not for someone like herself. I cannot visualize how we could do our job without someone like you, like her to do this for us and it seems like our job would almost be impossible without the City Planner" Mr. Thompson, "Well, I'll express mine, I already have that I think we need a City Planner and I do not agree that we should be discontinuing the funding for the City Planner position." Mr. Shroyer: "Many of these things that are being discussed are part of the job of City Planner and being part of the job I don°t think we can do much more then say she has been doing an outstanding job on those particular functions and her other accomplishments as far as going out and getting Grants and a few additional items are appreciated by the citizens of the City of Sebastian and since she has come on board she has acquired quite a few grants and has done many of the things that have not been done in the past and that a loss of her and that position over the next couple of years would probably cost us five to ten times the amount that it would cost us to retain her in her present position. This being the case that the Planning and Zoning Commission feels that she should be retained due to the fact she is providing additional funds for the City and without her or someone to do it the City would be losing out on a considerable amount of money and grants" "Mrs. Damp states her legal ease of understanding Government policy and rules and regulations is certainly very worthwhile and needed in our job and as well as other government jobs in the City." Mr. Goldstein "Mr. Chairman I don't really think that we can separate the individual from the position, perhaps it is possible but I don't think in this case it is and I would move that Mr. Shroyers eloquent statement that he just made be presented to the next city Council meeting, although we do have a motion on the table. So perhaps, I move to amend the previous motion to incorporate Mr. Shroyer's statement and forward it to th® Council." planner.doc