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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11031994 PZ City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET n SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 [] FAX (407) 589-5570 A G E~N..D A PLAHNINGAHD ZONIHG COtOIISSION THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 3~ 1994 7=00 P.M. 2. 3. 4. CALL TO ORDER. ROLL ~LLL. ANNOUNCEMENTS. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 20, 1994 OLD BUSINESS: DISCUSSION - AMENDING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES DISCUSSION - PLANTING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY Nl~BUSINESS: PUBLIC HEARING - HOME OCCUPATION LICENSE - TREASURE COAST EXCHANGE PUBLIC HEARING - HOME OCCUPATION LICENSE - BEST DRAINFIELD AND SEPTIC SERVICE PUBLIC HEARING - HOME OCCUPATION LICENSE - LAVENDAR LAWN CARE PUBLIC HEARING - MODEL HOME 'PERMIT - 1414 BARBER STREET - AMERON HOMES, INC. PUBLIC HEARING - MODEL HOME PERMIT - 1426 BARBER STREET - AMERON HOMES, INC. PUBLIC HEARING - MODEL HOME RENEWAL - 1037 BARBER STREET - MGB CONSTRUCTION, INC. PUBLIC HEARING - MODEL HOME RENEWAL - 1043 BARBER STREET - MGB CONSTRUCTION, INC. 7. CHAiRHANS MATTERS: 8. MEMBERS MATTERS~ 9. ATTORNEYS MATTERS: 10. BUILDING OFFICIAL MATTERS: 11. ADJOURN: ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTERS, WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH APPEAL IS TO BE HEARD. SAID APPEAL MUST BE FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THE DATE OF ACTION. (286.0105 F.S.) PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AGENDA - NOVEMBER 3, 1994 PAGE TWO IN COMPLIA] ANYONE WHO CONTACT TH~ HOURS PRIO] ~CE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), NEEDS SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT (407) 589-5330 AT LEAST 48 TO THIS MEETING. PZAGENDA.D~ C CITY OF SEBASTIA~ PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR. MEET, lNG CHAIRMAN THOMPSON OPENED THE MEETING AT 7:02 P.M. PRESENT: MR. MUNSART MR. SHROYER CHMN. THOMPSON MR. GOLDSTEIN MR. BARNES MR. FALKE MR. FISCHER MRS. BRANTMEYER MR. SCHULKE ALSO PRESENT: BRUCE COOPER, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT/BUILDING OFFICIAL DORRI BOSWORTH, SECRETARY ANNOUNCEMENTS: ON NOVEMBER 1, 1994, CHMN. THOMPSON APPROVED A MINOR MODIFICATION TO THE SITE PLAN WHICH RE-ARRANGED THE PARKING STALLS FOR THE SEBASTIAN HIGHLANDSANIMALHOSPITALAT 433 FELLSMERE ROAD, SEBASTIAN. IT DID NOT CHANGE THE NUMBER OF STALLS, ONLY RE- ARRANGED THEM FOR BETTER USE OF SPACE. APPROVAL OF MXNUTES: BOARD MEMBERS RECEIVED THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING AT THE OUTSET OF THIS MEETING. CHMN. THOMPSON SUGGESTED DELAYING ANAPPROVAL OR TAKING A 5 MINUTE BREAK TO REVIEW THE MINUTES. MR. BARNES MADE A MOTION TO MOVE THE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 20, 1994 MINUTES TO THE NEXT REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. MR. MUNSART SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WAS TAKEN. 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. SEBASTIAN ZONING & PLANNING COMMISSION pLANN~NGA~D ZONING COMMISSION REGULARMEETING OF NOVEMBER 3, 1994 pAGE TWO MR. SHRC BUSINESS ROLL CAI PUBLIC EXCHANGB PUBLIC LORRAIN~ STOUGH 9 FROM HER 22 NOTI¢ OBJECTIf STAFF H~ MS. STO~ AUTO, B( BUSINES~ MR. BiLl VOICES ~ THE PAR9 MR. WAR] INTENDS MS. STO! APPLICA~ PUBLIC MR. GOL MS. STO! MR. FISI COMPUTE] MR. MUNi LORRAIN] SEBAS~I{ YER MADE A MOTION TO .PLACE THE OLD BUSINESS AFTER THE NEW FOR THIS MEETING. MR. FALKE SECONDED THE MOTION. L WAS TAKEN. 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. gESS~ HEA~iNG - HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE - T~EASUI~E COAST EARING OPENED AT 7:12 P.M. A. STOUGH LIVES AT 641 BARBER STREET, SEBASTIAN. ~MS. 'OULD LIKE TO RUN A MONTHLY COMPUTER PUBLICATION BusINESS HOME. ~SWERE SENT OUT TO NEIGHBORING RESIDENCES. THERE WERE NO IN OR NON-OBJECTION LETTERS RECEIVED. S NO OBJECTIONS. JGH STATES SHE PRODUCES A:MONTHLY PHOTO PUBLICATION FOR )ATS, AND HOMES.. ALL SALES WILL BE BY VISITATION TO THE ~S OR THROUGH P.O. BOX CORRESPONDENCE. LEWIS OF 632 LAWSON STREET, BEHIND THE APPLICANT'S HOUSE, .IS NON-OBJECTION TO THE HOME BUSINESS. HE STATES HE KNOWS 'ICULARS OF THE BUSINESS AND SEES NO PROBLEMS ARISING. tEN MORREALE OF 773 LAYPORT DRIVE ASKS MS. STOUGH IF SHE TO HAVE CUSTOMERS COME TO HER HOME? IGH STATES NO. ~ION. MR. MORREALE HAS NO OBJECTIONS THEN TO THE [EARING WAS CLOSED AT 7:14 P.M. ~STEIN QUESTIONED MS. STOUGH IF SHE HAD A BUSINESS VEHICLE? STATED HER PERSONAL CAR WAS THE ONLY VEHICLE USED. ]HER ASKED WHAT EQUIPMENT WAS USED. MS. STOUGH ANSWERED A CAMERA, AND HER PHONE WAS NEEDED FOR HER BUSINESS. ~ART MADE A MOTION TO GRANT A HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE TO ~ A. STOUGH AT 641 BARBER STREET, LOT 7, BLOCK 105, UNIT 2 ~_~(~S~ TO CONDUCT A COMPUTER PUBLICATION BUSINESS. ~LANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION R~ULAR MEETI~ OF NOVEMBER 3, 1994 MR. SHROYER SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WAS TAKEN, 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARING - HOME OCCUPATIONAL L.XCENSE - BEST DRAXNFXELD AND SEPTIC SERVICE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED AT 7:16 P.M. MR. JOHN O. WILLIAMS LIVES AT 613 ATLANTUS TERRACE. HE WISHES TO RUN A DRAINFIELD AND SEPTIC TANK SERVICE FROM HIS HOME. 19 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO NEIGHBORING RESIDENCES. THERE WAS 1 OBJECTION LETTER RECEIVED FROM A PROPERTY OWNER IN TUCSON, ARIZONA. THERE WERE NO NON-OBJECTION LETTERS RECEIVED. STAFF WANTED TO KNOW WHAT EQUIPMENT MR. WILLIAMS USED FOR HIS BUSINESS? MR. WILLIAMS STATED HE USED A 1985 GMC PUMP TRUCK THAT IS PARKED AT ADAM'S SERVICE STATION ON U.S. #1 (OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS). IF HE RENTS A BACK-HOE OR ANY OTHER EQUIPMENT IT GETS PARKED AT ADAM'S. MR. COOPER ASKS IF HE DOES A JOB BY HIMSELF OR DOES HE HAVE HELP? MR. WILLIAMS STATES HE IS THE ONLY EMPLOYEE. MR. COOPER INQUIRES HOW LONG MR. WILLIAMS HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS? MR. WILLIAMS WORKED IN MIAMI FOR 7 YEARS DOING THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS. RECENTLY HE WORKED WITH MAXWELL & SONS PLUMBING DOING BUSINESS FOR THEM. MR. WILLIAMS STATES HE NEVER BRINGS THE PUMP TRUCK TO HIS RESIDENCE, EVEN FOR LUNCH. HIS HOME IS NEEDED STRICTLY FOR THE TELEPHONE USE. STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS. NO PUBLIC INPUT. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 7:19 P.M. MR. BARNES ASKED iF THERE WAS ANY MATERIAL SUCH AS PIPING OR ROCK KEPT AT MR. WILLIAM'S RESIDENCE? MR. WILLIAMS STATES HISMATERIALS ARE STORED AT DIFFERENT AREAS BUT NOT AT HIS RESIDENCE. MR. WILLIAMS IS STATE CERTIFIED WITH HRS AND HAS REGISTERED WITH THE CITY'S BUILDING DEPT. MR. MUNSART ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY ADVERTISING ON HIS VEHICLES? MR. WILLIAMS STATED NOT ON HIS VEHICLES PARKED AT HOME. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER PAGE ~UR MR. B~ APPLI( DRAIN~ MR. ROLL PUBLI, PUBLI( RON L~ RUN A THERE OBJEC2 APPLI( MR. CC UTILI~ REGAR~ MR. L~ FIT'IT WAS DC ABOUT 12 YE~ MONTHS MR. C( BUSIN~ OCCUP~ NOW P~ ON TH~ THUS B HAS NC MR. CB THE ~ APPLI¢ LAVEN~ FOR T~ IS ALI THE Cf MR. Cf TRAIL~- RNES MAKES A MOTION TOAPPROVE THE HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE IATION AT 613 ATLANTUS TERRACE IN SEBASTIAN TO OPERATE A 'IELD AND SEPTIC SERVICE BUSINESS. ~LKE SECONDED THE MOTION. IALL WAS TAKEN, 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. HEARING - HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE - LAVENDER LAWN CARE HEARING OPENED AT 7:22 P,M. VENDER LIVES AT 1498 BARBER STREET, SEBASTIAN, AND WISHES TO LAWN CARE SERVICE FROM HIS HOME. WERE 18 NOTICES SENT TO NEIGHBORING RESIDENCES. ION LETTER RECEIVED AND NO NON-OBJECTIONS ATION. THERE WAS 1 'FOR THIS OPER REVIEWS THE CONCERN THE CITY HAS HAD OVER MR. LAVENDER'S TRAILER. HE ASKS MR. LAVENDER WHAT HIS POSITION IS ING THAT TRAILER AND HIS EQUIPMENT. VENDER STATES HE HAD A CUSTOMIZED TRAILER MADE, 6' X 11', TO HIS GARAGE, WHICH THE LAWNMOWER STAYS ON IN THE GARAGE. IT NE THE DAY LEA SMITH, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, SPOKE TO HIM IT. HE HAS NO OTHER EMPLOYEES AND HAS BEEN 'IN BUSINESS FOR iRS. HE HAS JUST MOVED TO HIS BARBER STREET RESIDENCE 2 AGO. )OPER NOTES THAT THERE USUALLY IS SOME ADJUSTMENT FOR HOME SSES NEW TO THE CITY TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE HOME .TIONALREGULATIONS. MR. LAVENDER HAS COME INTO COMPLIANCE BY ~KING INSIDE THE GARAGE FROM PREVIOUSLY PARKING HIS TRAILER SIDE OF HIS HOUSE AND STORING HiS EQUIPMENT IN THE GARAGE, ~ING TO MOVE THE EQUIPMENT EACH MORNINGAND EVENING. STAFF OBJECTIONS AS LONG AS HIS TRAILER IS KEPT IN THE GARAGE. ~RLES LOWE OF 1521 BARBER STREET ADDRESSES THE BOARD. HE IS ESIDENT WHO SENT THE OBJECTION LETTER CONCERNING THIS ATION. HE STATES TRAFFIC HAS BEEN HORRENDOUS SINCE MR. ER MOVED IN WITH HIS BUSINESS, AND HE SUBMITS SOME PICTURES E BOARD TO LOOK AT. HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHY MR. LAVENDER OWED TO PARK ANY BUSINESS RELATED VEHICLE ON HIS PROPERTY AS ,PY OF THE CODE HE RECEIVED STATES IT IS PROHIBITED. ~OPER STATES THE ORDINANCE WAS CHANGED TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL RS TO BE STORED ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH A HOME PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PAGE FIVE em*,\ REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 3, 1994 OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE PROVIDED IT IS SCREENED. MR. LOWE QUESTIONS WHEN IT WAS CHANGED AND WHERE DOES IT STATE THE CHANGES? MR. COOPER INFORMS MR. LOWE IT IS AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS OPINED THAT SINCE A TRAILER IS A VEHICLE, IT IS PERMISSIBLE TO PARK THAT WITHIN THE GARAGE AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF SCREENING. THERE IS NOWHERE IN THE CODE THAT STATES THAT, BUT IT IS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION. THE AMENDED CODE HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN TO THE CITY IN A DISTRIBUTABLE FORM YET. MRS. LOWE (HANDICAPPED) REFERS TO THE PICTURES AGAIN, POINTING OUT HOW THE CONGESTION OF EQUIPMENT/TRAILERS/TRAFFIC AT MR. LAVENDER'S HOUSE MAKES IT VERY HARD FOR ANYONE TO ACCESS THE WALK WAY. MR. LAVENDER CONSTANTLY HAS FRIENDS WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT STOPPING OVER, TOO, PARKING IN THE VACANT LOT AND BIKE PATH/SIDEWALK. MR. GOLDSTEIN ASKS WHAT DAY THE PICTURES WERE TAKEN? MRS. LOWE DID NOT HAVE AN EXACT DATE BUT GUESSES SOMEDAY DURING THE PREVIOUS WEEK. eo*l� MR. COOPER STATES FRIENDS STOPPING BY WITH THEIR TRAILERS DOES NOT CONCERN THE HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE, BUT THEIR PARKING ON THE SWALE AREA WITH THE TRAILERS IS AGAINST CITY CODE, AND ASKS MR. LAVENDER TO HAVE THEM NOT BRING THEIR TRAILERS BY WHEN VISITING. CHMN. THOMPSON GIVES HIS CONCERNS, AFTER LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, OF THE PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK. PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AT 7:38 P.M.. MR. MUNSART INQUIRES IF EACH OF MR. LOWE'S OBJECTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM HIS LETTER HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED? MR. COOPER REVIEWS MR. LOWE'S LETTER. MR. SHROYER NOTES MR. LOWE 'S LETTER MENTIONS MR. LAVENDER STARTING HIS MOWERS IN THE GARAGE AND MAINTAINING THEM. MR. COOPER STATES THIS IS AGAINST THE HOME OCC. CODE, AND THE MOWERS MUST ONLY BE MOVED IN AND OUT OF THE GARAGE ON THE TRAILER. MR. GOLDSTEIN ASKS MR. LAVENDER HOW MANY MOWERS HE OWNS? MR. LAVENDER STATES TWO — ONE IS A MULCHING MOWER AND ONE IS FOR BAGGING THE GRASS CLIPPINGS. MR. GOLDSTEIN ASKS MR. COOPER IF THERE HAS EVER BEEN AN OPINION FROM OUR ATTORNEY ON THE APPROPRIATENESS OF CERTAIN EQUIPMENT FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 3, 1994 PAGE SIX HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE, SUCH AS THE NUMBER OF RIDING LAWN MOWERS THAT WOULD BE NORMAL FOR A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING? MR. COOPER STATES SINCE THEY PERMITTED COMMERCIAL TRAILERS UP TO 14 FEET, IT WOULD BE ASSUMED A NUMBER OF VEHICLES WOULD BE ALLOWED NOT NORMAL TO YOUR AVERAGE GARAGE. MR. FALKE VOICES CONCERN ABOUT BLOCKING BARBER STREET WHILE TRYING TO BACK INTO THE GARAGE. MR. LAVENDER STATES HE HAS NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. MR. FISCHER MAKES A MOTIONS TO APPROVE THE HOME OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE APPLICATION FOR LAVENDER LAWN CARE AT 1498 BARBER STREET, LOT 8, BLOCK 298, UNIT 11. MR. FALKE SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WAS TAKEN, 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. AT 7:55 P.M. RECESS WAS TAKEN. THE MEETING RESUMED AT 8:05 P.M. AND THE RECORD SHOWS ALL MEMBERS HAVE RETURNED. PUBLIC HEARING - MODEL HOME PERMIT - AMERON HOMES, INC. - 1414 BARBER STREET AND 1426 BARBER STREET THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED AT 8:06 P.M. 15 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS OR NON - OBJECTIONS RECEIVED BACK. MR. WAYNE BROGNANO REPRESENTING AMERON HOMES IS PRESENT FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. THE COMMISSION HAS NO QUESTIONS. STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS. THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:08 P.M. MR. BARNES MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MODEL HOME PERMIT FOR AMERON HOMES AT 1414 BARBER STREET. MR. FALKE SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WAS TAKEN, 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. MR. GOLDSTEIN MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MODEL HOME PERMIT FOR AMERON HOMES AT 1426 BARBER STREET. MR. FALKE SECONDED THE MOTION. Y PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PAGE SEVEN REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 3. 1994 ROLL CALL WAS TAKEN, 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. PUBLIC HEARING - MODEL HOME PERMIT~ENEWAL-M~B CONSTRUCTION, INC. - 1037 BARBER STREET AND 1043 BARBER STREET PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED AT 8:11 P.M. 17 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT. THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS OR NON- OBJECTIONS RECEIVED BACK. MARY ELLEN BALLOUGH REPRESENTING MGB CONSTRUCTION iS PRESENT FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS. MR. FALKE ASKS IF THIS IS THE FIRST RENEWAL FOR THESE HOMES? MS. BALLOUGH STATES 1037 BARBER STREET HAS BEEN A MODEL FOR FIVE YEARS AND 1043 BARBER STREET FOR ONE. MR. BARNES CHECKS TO SEE IF-EACH OF THE HOMES HAVE 5 PARKING SPACES. MS. BALLOUGH STATES YES, MORE THAN 5. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT 8:13 P.M. MR. FALKEMAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MODEL HOME RENEWAL FOR MGB CONSTRUCTION, 1037 BARBER STREET, LOT 6, BLOCK 218, UNIT 8, SEBASTIAN. MR. BARNES SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WAS TAKEN, 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. MR. BARNES MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RENEWAL OF THE MODEL HOME PERMIT AT 1043 BARBER STREET FOR MGB CONSTRUCTION. MR. FALKE SECONDED THE MOTION. ROLL CALL WAS TAKEN, 7-0 MOTION CARRIED. MR. GOLDSTEIN REQUESTS TO ADD A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION ON THE RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA. HE MAKES A MOTION TO DO SO. MR. BARNES SECONDED THE MOTION. MR. BARNES NOTES, THOUGH, THATAT CITY COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS MEETING, THEY DECIDED TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW CiTY PLANNER WAS HIRED, OR HAVE A WORKSHOP IN JANUARY TO COME UP WITH IDEAS AND THEN DESIGNATE A NEW COMMITTEE. MR. SHROYER REMINDS MEMBERS OF ALL THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS REGARDING RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT AND ASKS IF THE BOARD MEMBERS COULD GET COPIES OF THAT INFORMATION, GO THROUGH IT AND STUDY IT, AND THEN DISCUSS WHICH DIRECTION THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO. HE THINKS THE PLANNIN ~GU~I~ MEMBERS AND THI AGENDA. G AND. ZONING COMMISSION ~ MEETING OF NOVEMBER 3'. 1994 SHOULD HAVE iNFORMATiON IN WRITING WHEN DISCUSSING A MATTER NKS MR.. GOLDSTEIN OUGHT TO PUT THIS ON THE NEXT MEETING'S MR. GOL DISCUSS OLD BUS AMENDXN FOR ACC MR. COC LOCATED THE STR MR. GOL MR. COG OWNER INDICAT MR. CO0 PREVENT SINGLE- YOU CAN THE ST~ EVERY A ONE IT~ LIMIT O NUMBER STRUCTU ON THES ALLOWIN PROPERT MUST BE MAIN LI THE EAt RESTRIC DSTEIN RESCINDS HIS MOTION AND WILL BRING UP A SMALL, BRIEF ION UNDER MEMBERS MATTERS LATER IN TONIGHT'S MEETING. iNESS: THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING TEPE OF CONSTRUCTION ESSORY STRUCTURES HER SHOWS A BRIEF VIDEO OF THE WAREHOUSE-LIKE STRUCTURE AT 1421 THORNHILL. THE MEMBERS WERE GIVEN A FLOOR PLAN OF UCTURE. DSTEIN INQUIRES WHAT THE STRUCTURE IS USED FOR? PER STATES STRICTLY FOR STORAGE OF VARIOUS ITEMS THAT THE 'LANS TO DO - CARS, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, ETC. HE HAS ED IT IS NOT FOR A HOME BUSINESS. PER ALSO NOTES THAT THERE IS NOT ANYTHING 'IN THE CODE THAT S A SIMILAR STRUCTURE BECOMING LARGER AND MAKING IT A FAMILY RESIDENCE. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT SAYS NOT HAVE A METAL BUILbING FOR A RESIDENCE PROVIDED IT MEETS NDARD BUILDING CODE, SET BACKS, AND HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. ~ENUE OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SHOULD BE LOOKED AT. NUMBER M SHOULD BE METAL STRUCTURES. WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IS A N SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. TWO ITEM SHOULD ADDRESS ATTACHED STRUCTURES VS. DETACHED RES; GARAGE AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS E TYPES OF BUILDINGS WILL ALSO BE ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF ~ MOTOR HOMES/RECREATIONAL VEHICLES TO BE STORE.D ON OWNERS IES. THE ORDINANCE NOWFOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES STATES IT BEHIND THE FRONT BUILDING LINE, CANNOT EXCEED 75% OF THE VING AREA, AND CANNOT BE HIGHER THAN THE MAIN STRUCTURE. :IEST WAS TO LIMIT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE CONFORMITY iS TO ~ THE MAXIMUM CEILING HEIGHT WHETHER ATTACHED OR DETACHED. IT IS ~P TO THE BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL IF THEY WANT TO BE THAT RESTRIC'-~IVE. iF THE ~OARD DOESN'T WANT TO BE THAT RESTRICTIVE, OTHER ASPECTS CAN BE LIMITED. A TYPICAL HOUSE PLAN MAY HAVE THE GARAGE PROTRUDING IN FRONT ~F THE MAIN HOUSE IN A L-SHAPED PLAN. IF AN ATTACHED STRUCTURE EXCEEDS A CERTAIN SQ. FOOTAGE/CEILING HEIGHT THEN IT SHOULD tBE ARCHITECTURALLY DESIGNED SO IT DOESN'T APPEAR .TO BE A SORE THUMB. THE BOARD COULD ALSO COME UP WITH STRAiGHT"STANDARDS. /oolh� PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PAGE NINE /om*) REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 3, 1994 METAL BUILDINGS CAN BE CONTROLLED BASED ON SIZE TO STILL ALLOW STORAGE SHEDS. A SURVEY BASED ON TYPICAL SIZES OF COMMERCIAL SHEDS COULD BE USED. MR. SHROYER FEELS IT IS INFRINGING ON A HOME OWNER'S RIGHTS TO SAY HE CAN'T BUILD A STRUCTURE TO STORE A MOTOR HOME IN IT. HE ASKS TO SEE THE VIDEO AGAIN. HE IS CONCERNED WITH THE PITCH OF THE ROOF AND SUGGESTS THAT IS ONE ITEM THAT CAN BE REGULATED IN COMPARISON WITH THE ROOF PITCH OF THE MAIN BUILDING. MR. COOPER STATES HE WOULD STILL BE CONCERNED THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT WILL MEET THAT REQUIREMENT BUT STILL LET THEIR BUILDING LOOK LIKE THE ONE AT 1421 THORNHILL. MR. SHROYER ALSO FEELS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME GENERAL APPEARANCE AS THE MAIN STRUCTURE. HE ASKS IF THE STRUCTURE AT 1421 THORNHILL WAS ATTACHED? MR. COOPER STATES YES, BY A BREEZEWAY. HE WANTS THE BOARD TO REVIEW THE MEANING OF ATTACHED VS. DETACHED, AND SHOULD THERE BE DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR THE TWO? 14011\ MR. FALKE STATES THAT HE IS A REC. VEHICLE OWNER AND FEELS LUCKY SEBASTIAN ALLOWS RV'S ON OWNERS PROPERTY, AS SOME CITIES DON'T. HE FEELS RV'S ARE MADE TO BE OUTSIDE AND DOESN'T FEEL A STRUCTURE IS NEEDED TO STORE AN RV. MR. SHROYER SUGGESTS EVERY BOARD MEMBER SHOULD WRITE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE SINCE THERE IS SO MUCH TO COVER. MR. COOPER AGREES THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD SUBMIT TO STAFF THEIR COMMENTS ON WHAT IS PERTINENT AND THEN STAFF WILL TRY TO CORRELATE THAT INFORMATION AND COME UP WITH A CONSENSUS ON CRITERIA. WE NEED TO FORMULATE A CATCH—ALL FOR FUTURE BUILDING SITUATIONS. MR GOLDSTEIN WOULD LIKE STAFF TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY HOW ENFORCEABLE THE COMMISSION ACTING AS THE AESTHETIC REVIEW BOARD WOULD BE. WOULD THAT BE CHALLENGEABLE? MR. SCHULKE REVIEWS THAT THE BUILDING AT 1421 THORNHILL WAS ALLOWED BECAUSE IT WAS CONSIDERED ATTACHED BECAUSE OF THE BREEZEWAY. HE SUGGESTS A WAY TO IDENTIFY ATTACHED IS TO SHARE A COMMON WALL WITH THE MAIN STRUCTURE. MR. COOPER WILL BE REQUESTING THROUGH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES MORE IDEAS FOR ORDINANCES REGARDING ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. CHMN. THOMPSON FEELS SECTION 20A-5.7 SHOULD STAY AS IS RELATED TO eo*1 ATTACHED STRUCTURES. IT STATES THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SHALL NOT EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. ALSO SQ. FOOTAGE W PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PAGE TEN REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 3, 1994 SHOULD NOT BE MORE THAN 75% OF THE MAIN BUILDING. DISCUSSION WILL BE CONTINUED AT A FUTURE MEETING. PLANTING IN THE RIGHT—OF—WAY MR. COOPER REVIEWS THAT WHEN THE BOARD FIRST STARTED DISCUSSING PLANTINGS IN THE ROW, IT WAS FLOWERS AROUND THE MAILBOXES AND VARIOUS SMALL, LOW LYING PLANTS. THE PREVIOUS CITY ENGINEER SUGGESTED THE UNIMPROVED ROW, USUALLY A 15 FOOT AREA ON MOST LOCAL STREETS, CONTAINING A DRAINAGE SWALE SHOULD JUST HAVE SOD. MAINTENANCE IS UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND PLANTINGS BECOME A PROBLEM IF THEY DON'T MAINTAIN THEM PROPERLY. THERE WILL BE CONCERNS OF ALLOWING MULCH THEN. THE ENGINEER SUGGESTED ONLY ALLOWING SOD, SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, MAIL BOXES, AND NEWSPAPER RECEPTACLES. LANDSCAPING IS PLEASING TO SEE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, DRAINAGE MAINTENANCE IS IMPORTANT. MR. COOPER WANTS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CONSENSUS THE BOARD HAS. CHMN. THOMPSON ASKS THE BOARD MEMBERS. MR. FISCHER GIVES HIS APPROVAL FOR PLANTING IN THE ROW. MR. FALKE FEELS THE CITY DOES A POOR JOB MAINTAINING THE SWALE IN THE ROW ON VACANT LOTS AND IMPROVED LOTS. HE APPROVES PLANTINGS AS 14� LONG AS THE OWNER KNOWS IF THEY BECOME A NUISANCE FOR DRAINAGE MAINTENANCE THE PLANTINGS CAN BE REMOVED BY THE CITY. MR. BARNES IS ALSO IN FAVOR. MR. GOLDSTEIN STATES NO. — ONLY AROUND THE MAILBOX. MR. SHROYER ALSO STATES NO. — AND ALSO ONLY AROUND THE MAILBOX. MR. MUNSART INQUIRES IF THIS INCORPORATES THE SIZE OF THE MAILBOX, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. MR. COOPER STATES YES, HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS DONE AT THIS TIME IF IT IS GOING TO AMENDED ALSO. MR. MUNSART STATES HE WOULD ALLOW PLANTING AROUND THE MAILBOX BUT OTHERWISE NOWHERE ELSE. MR. SCHULKE STATES NO, EXCEPT AROUND THE MAILBOX. MRS. BRANTMEYER STATES NO. SHE FEELS THE ORDINANCE SHOULD HAVE NO CHANGES MADE TO IT, NO PLANTINGS ALLOWED. CHMN. THOMPSON THINKS 12 INCHES AROUND THE MAILBOX IS OK. HE COMPLIMENTS CAPTAIN HIRAM'S LANDSCAPING, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE ROW'S. HE FEELS THE REPORT FROM THE PREVIOUS ENGINEER IS NOT VALID, BEING THE CITY DOESN'T DO A GOOD JOB WITH UPKEEPING THE ROW'S ANYWAYS. MR. COOPER STATES THERE IS A CONSENSUS OF ALLOWING PLANTING AROUND THE MAILBOXES WITH A 2 FOOT PERIMETER. 3 MEMBERS WANTED TO ALLOW lo'1 PLANTING IN ALL OF THE ROW. PLANNING AND ZONING .COMMISSION REGULAR MEEtiNG OF NOVEMBER 3,. 19~{ MR, SHROYER NOTES THAT A 2 FOOT PERIMETER IS LARGE ENOUGH TO BE RUN OVER BY A MAIL DELIVERY VEHICLE OR NEWSPAPER TRUCK AND SUGGESTS MAKING IT 12 INCHES. MR. FALKE SUGGESTS ALLOWING PLANTING iN THE HOUSE SIDE OF THE SWALE. MR. SCHULKE NOTES THAT SOME RESIDENTS ON SOME STREETS HAVE THE MAILBOXES ALL ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET. MR. MUNSART QUESTIONS WHAT ARE THE ORDINANCES/REGULATIONS REGARDING PARKING ON THE SWALE? MR. COOPER STATES THERE ARE NONE AT THIS TIME. FINAL CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD IS 7 MEMBERS ARE FOR PLANTIN~ AROUND THE MAILBOXES ONLY, ~ 2 MEMBERS FOR PLANTINGANYWHERE IN THE ROW. ,,CHAXRMAHMATTERS3 CHMN. THOMPSON INQUIRES ABOUT RESOLUTION R-94-58, QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS. MR. COOPER STATES PLANNiNGAND ZONING SHOULD ADAPT THE FORMAT OF R- 94-58 FOR THEIR USE UNTIL THE CITY ATTORNEY IS FINISHED'WITH THE RESOLUTION FOR P & Z. SITE PLANS AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ARE THE AUTHORATIVE iSSUES THAT CONCERN PLANNING AND ZONING. MR. GOLDSTEIN SUGGESTS P & Z ADOPT R-94-58 FOR THEIR OWN USE INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR A NEW RESOLUTION. MR. COOPER AGREES. THE RESOLUTION WILL BE RE-DEFINED FOR P & Z AND PUT ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE BOARD'S APPROVAL. MEMBERS MATTERS~ MR. GOLDSTEIN ASKS IF HE MAY ROUTE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE RIVERFRONT DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY .ATTORNEY THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT? MR. COOPER STATES YES. MR. GOLDSTEIN THEN ASKS TO PUT A RIVERFRONT DISCUSSION ON THE NEXT AGENDA. MR. SHROYER ASKS FOR COPIES OF THE "VISIONS OF RIVERFRONT" DOCUMENT AND OTHER PREVIOUS PERTINENT DOCUMENTS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THE MEMBERS FOR THAT DISCUSSION. REGULA~ MR. MUM HAD WI'. INQUIR~ MR. C0¢ CITY ~ CITY Cf ZONING C0~!SSION ~ MEETING OF NOVEMBER 3, 1994 PAGE TWELVE ~ARTALSO REQUESTS COPiES~OF THE REPORT OF THE MEETING STAFF AFFECTED PROPERTY oWNERS ON THE RIVERFRONT. HE THEN OF THE STATUS OF THE ~IENDED TREE ORDINANCE? PER STATES STAFF DIRECTED THE REVISED ORDINANCE THROUGH THE ~AGER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. IT SHOULD BE COMING BACK TO ~UNCIL SOON. MENT: THE ME~TING WAS CLOSED AT 9:31 P.M.