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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 15, 2001
Acting Chairwoman Vesia called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
The Pledge of Allegiance was said,
~ PRESENT:
ALSO PRESENT:
VC Vesia
Mr, Mahoney
Ms. Carbano
Ms, Monier(a)
Ms. Reichert(a)
Mr. Barrett
Mr, Smith
Mr. Rauth
Mr. Svatik, Jr.
Jan King, Growth Management Manager
Ann Brack, Recording Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
APP,RQ,VA,L OF MINUTE~;
MOTION by BarrettJCarbano
None
11/1/01
I recommend approval of the minutes of November 1st.
A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0, motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW ,B,,,iJ~,,I,NESS,:
A. Accessory Structure Review - Section 54-2-7.5 - 1265 George Street -
William Bertram. 25' X 36' Metal Garage
Mr. William Bertram, 1265 George Street, Sebastian, was present and gave a brief
presentation including photographs of his car collection and of his property. He noted
that the trees growing around the edge of his property are mostly Brazilian Pepper trees.
He also indicated that he has applied for a Unity of Title but has not yet received it.
Jan King gave staff presentation noting the absence of a planned driveway and culvert
for the swale, and recommended that Mr. Bertram consult with the Engineering
Department. There were issues about the removal of any trees on this property and it
was noted that he needed to apply for a permit. Height and color were discussed.
Ms. Reichert noted concern of possible waterway contamination while doing
maintenance on these antique vehicles in that location.
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Mr, Barrett asked if an official signed and sealed survey is on file in the Building
Department. Jan King indicated that this will be verified. Mr. Barrett also opined that a
driveway will probably be required by Engineering. He indicated also that the Unity of
Title must be approved and on hand before the accessory structure could be approved.
Jean Carbano questioned the lack of electrical power on the plans.
Mr, Svatik pointed out the additional square feet of storage space that could be
permitted on this property, in addition to the one being applied for.
There was much discussion about the code that covers accessory structures and the
intent that these structures closely resemble the primary residence on the property.
Mr, Mahoney commented that this subject structure looks like a quasi-quonset structure
and is almost the size of a small house,
Ms. Monier indicated that this accessory storage structure runs closer to a commercial
facility because of its size and does not belong in a residential community, She also
noted that the pepper trees will probably be removed at some time.
Jan King noted that the size of the structure would meet the code if used as a garage.
Mr. Rauth asked if T-111 would be acceptable under the code, and a comparison was
made to Mr, Bertram's primary structure (home) fa(;ade, which is stucco over frame,
The pitch of the roofs were also compared,
Acting Chmn, Vesia noted that the restrictions are written in the Code, and it is up to this
Commission to abide by it or not. The issues of aesthetics and looks were discussed.
MOTION by Svatik/Rauth
I make a motion to disapprove it based on it does not exhibit the harmonious
overall design with the structure that's part of that property, basically the house, I
could find nothing but discord.
Discussion: Mr. Svatik clarified that Mr. Bertram should be allowed to have a structure
for the storage of his cars, but the design he has picked is not harmonious with the
overall design of his existing house on that property,
Roll call:
VC Vesia - yes Mr. Mahoney - yes
Mr. Barrett - yes Mr, Svatik - yes
Mr. Smith - yes Ms. Carbano - yes
Mr, Rauth - yes
The vote was 7 - 0. Motion carried,
Mr, Bertram asked the following question: If he proposes to place an accessory
structure exactly like the one approved on Seahouse Street, would this Commission
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approve it? The general response was that Board members are different now, and a
decision is not available tonight. Ms. Monier suggested that there are other Companies
who offer prefab structures that are shingle roofed, and have a better appearance in the
material used, for approximately the same price, if the applicant would take the time to
investigate these sources. Mr. Svatik noted that the garage doors are not an issue, but
the corrugated metal surface of the building is the issue. He suggested that Mr. Bertram
look at his house, then look at that metal building and explain how they are compatible.
Mr. Bertram commented that he hated to see that the Commission picked him to all of a
sudden institute a different policy in the City because the Commission has allowed them
all over, carports or whatever.
CHAIRMAN MATTERS:
None
MEMBERS MA'FI'ERS:
Mr. Barrett commented that it is unfortunate that Attorney Stringer is not present tonight.
He then spoke about the telecommunications tower issue that will be coming back
before this Commission in the near future and gave a report of the meeting that was held
by the County in Vero on this issue. He commented that Sebastian needs to get serious
about this issue rather quickly, and will suggest to Atty. Stringer that a workshop be held,
as well as dealing with the accessory structures.
He further noted the importance of knowing the basis of the lawsuit by Nextel, what the
denial was based on by Indian River County, then, what was the court's basis for
overturning it and allowing Nextel to go ahead with the tower. He suggested that this
information is necessary to deal with writing an ordinance for the City of Sebastian. He
suggested that Sebastian needs to be in concert with what Indian River County and the
City of Vero Beach does. He also suggested that this could be an income maker for the
City if the towers were installed on City owned property and rented to the users.
Mr. Rauth asked what the steps are to bring an issue to workshop. He noted the difficult
decision that was made tonight, and noted this Board's responsibility to make it clear to
the residents what is and what isn't acceptable.
Jan King responded that this Commission can call a workshop when it wants to, and
staff needs to know what the Commission expects of them and what materials are
needed for back-up. She noted the survey that was done on the canopy structures.
Mr. Barrett commented that with the coming holidays, it will be tough to put something
together, but he suggested that a date be selected in mid-January for a workshop on
accessory structures.
There was discussion that the County moratorium will expire in January 2002, but it was
noted that it is being extended.
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MOTION by Barrett/Carbano
I would propose to recommend to City Council a moratorium on accessory
structures in excess of 200 square feet, until at least the end of March, 2002, due
to needed clarification by the Commission through workshop processes, which
are scheduled to begin January 10, 2002,
Roll call:
VC Vesia - yes Mr. Barrett - yes
Mr. Mahoney - yes Mr. Smith - yes
Ms. Carbano - yes Mr. Svatik - yes
Mr. Rauth - yes
The vote was 7 - I). Motion approved,
Mr, Smith asked if it was possible to delay applications without going through all this until
the workshop is accomplished and we can go to City Council.
Mr, Rauth commented that he felt that this is the quickest and most direct method to
resolve this matter the right way.
The Secretary reminded the members that staff is to be unbiased in every way.
Jan King noted that the Building Department has only a short amount of time before they
must process any building application.
MOTION by Barrett/Smith
I'd like to recommend to City Council that we institute a moratorium on
communication towers for a minimum of six (6) months to allow the City Staff,
Planning and Zoning, and Attorney to develop a defensible ordinance to deal with
the regulations to control further development of communication towers within the
City,
AMMENDMENT by Svatik/Barrett
I'd like to add - when that is commensurate or compatible with the County plan,
which is not yet completed.
Roll call on Amendment:
VC Vesia - yes Mr, Barrett - yes
Mr. Mahoney - yes Mr, Smith - yes
Ms. Carbano - yes Mr. Rauth - yes
Mr. Svatik, Jr. - yes
The vote was 7 - 0. Motion carried.
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Roll call on the Motion:
Mr. Barrett - yes
Mr. Smith - yes
Ms. Carbano - yes
Mr. Rauth - yes
The vote was 7 - O. Motion carried.
VC Vesia - yes
Mr. Mahoney - yes
Mr, Svatik, Jr, -yes
Mr. Svatik, Jr. referred to a copy of a letter from attorneys Dill & Evans in reference to
the Villages of Lake Dolores (PUD) application for a conceptual development plan
amendment and asked how a moratorium might affect this process and the application
for a communication tower already on file for reconsideration, This issue was discussed.
The meaning of the term "abate" was discussed,
Mr, Rauth suggested that when the issues under the above motions are to be discussed
by City Council, it would be important that P & Z Commission members be present to
support their views and express the seriousness of these issues.
Acting Chairwoman Vesia adjourned the meeting at 8:15 P.M.
(11/19/01 AB)