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PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 25, 2018
1. Call to Order -- Chairman Sims called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. Pledae of Allegiance was recited by all.
3. Roll Call
Present:
Mr.
Matthew Sims
Ms.
JoAnn Webster
Mr.
Greg Paschall
Mr.
Jim Sunnycalb (a)
Not Present:
Ms. JoAnne White -- Excused
Mr. Jay McKinniss Excused
Also Present:
Ms. Margarita Hernandez, Parks Administrator
Ms. Janet Graham, Technical Writer
4. Announcements and/or Aaenda Modifications
5. Approval of Minutes -- Regular Meeting of March 26, 2018
A motion to approve the March 26, 2018 Minutes as written was made by Ms. Webster
and seconded by Mr. Sunnycalb and passed unanimously by voice vote.
6. Unfinished Business
A. Pickle Ball Courts Update
Ms. Hernandez described the activity relating to the pickle ball courts since the
Committee's last meeting in March. There was a mandatory pre -bid meeting on April 6,
and the actual bid opening was on April 27. There was only one bid received which
came in significantly higher than what the City had budgeted. Staff met with the one
bidder —Hellas Construction —in an attempt to help the City with the value engineer and
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design/build these courts. The City has not heard back from them in over a month.
Because their bid was significantly higher than what was budgeted for, the project is on
hold and will have to undergo the budget process all over again. Mr. Sunnycalb inquired
as to how much time the budget process will take. Ms. Hernandez stated the budget is
still being worked on by the Finance Department, and this is supposed to be one of the
items to be presented to City Council for their approval. The new budget will begin
October 1. Ms. Webster asked if staff knows what the budget will be for this project.
Ms. Hernandez stated that is as yet unknown.
Mr. Paschall asked regarding the single bid if there was any item that stood out as
driving the cost, such as concrete, etc. at the present site vs. going back to Schumann
with the project. Ms. Hernandez stated she couldn't answer that question, but she is
aware that the price of concrete is at present significantly higher than previously. Mr.
Paschall asked if the bidder was a local company, and Ms. Hernandez stated they are
out of Austin, Texas. Mr. Paschall asked how long the project was advertised for bid.
Ms. Hernandez stated she was not completely certain, but she will find out. Mr.
Paschall asked if the City is permitted to repost the bid so as to get some bids from local
companies as opposed to going through the budget process again. Ms. Hernandez
stated she would get back to the Committee on that question. She stated that at the
pre -bid meeting there were a lot of contractors present, but she is not certain why there
was only one bid. Mr. Paschall requested that staff investigate what the options are
going forward, and Ms. Hernandez stated she will do that and report back next month.
Mr. Sims stated he had the same opinions and questions as Mr. Paschall.
7. Public Input
• Tim Jobe, Westport Drive, Sebastian. He is a pickle ball player and thanked the
Committee for their interest and work concerning getting this project completed.
He is requesting the Committee consider taking one of the tennis courts at
Schumann Drive and turning it into a dedicated pickle ball court, as there are
currently several people playing pickle ball at that location. He stated pickle ball
is very popular. He presented an article to the Committee on another group that
has taken an existing court and turned it into a dedicated pickle ball court. SEE
ATTACHED. He mentioned that Vero Beach did the same thing at one of their
parks, and this might be a viable option at a lower cost. Mr. Paschall asked Mr.
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Jobe if one tennis court can be converted to three pickle ball courts. Mr. Jobe
stated it would be two tennis courts converted to three pickle ball courts.
• Pete Antonelli, Fisher Lake Island, Sebastian. He inquired as to the process for
publishing bids on projects such as this. Mr. Sims stated the City staff handles
the entire process. Mr. Paschall added that bids go out to a public forum for a
certain period of time, and contractors submit their bids. The City looks at the
bids and selects the bidder. Mr. Antonelli mentioned speaking with a contractor
who is doing work on other pickle ball courts, and that contractor suggested a
figure of around $30,000.00 to convert the two tennis courts to four pickle ball
courts.
• Eileen Hanley, South Easy Street, Sebastian. She stated she thought the budget
for the proposed pickle ball courts was around $200,000.00. Ms. Hernandez
stated it was $213,000.00. She asked, when that money is not spent, how long it
will be available for this project, and if any money has been spent yet out of the
earmarked funds. Ms. Hernandez stated some money has been spent to pay the
engineer's fees. Ms. Hernandez stated the money is still in the budget for this
project and will stay there for at least the fiscal 2018-19, and her opinion is that it
is not going to go away, but she could not guarantee that, since budgets do
change from fiscal year to fiscal year. Mr. Paschall explained that the monies in
the budget for Parks and Recreation will stay in that budget; it will not go to
projects other than Parks and Recreation. He also pointed out that for converting
a court, specifications have to be done, written up, and submitted for bids.
8. New Business
A. Select a chairman and vice-chairman, adopt rules of procedure and
meeting schedule.
Mr. Sims stated that he has served out his term as Chairman, and there needs to be
nominations from the Committee. Ms. Webster nominated Mr. Paschall for Chairman.
Mr. Paschall nominated Mr. Sims for Chairman. Mr. Sunnycalb nominated Mr. Sims.
Ms. Webster seconded the motion to nominate Mr. Sims. Motion to appoint Mr. Sims
for another term as Chairman was made by Mr. Paschall, seconded by Ms. Webster,
and passed unanimously by voice vote.
Motion was made by Mr. Sunnycalb to nominate Mr. Paschall as Vice -
Chairman, seconded by Ms. Webster, and passed unanimously by voice vote.
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Ms. Hernandez asked if the Committee is agreeable to the order of the agenda in the
manner staff has been presenting it for the Committee meetings, as well as the date
and time of the Committee meetings. Motion was made by Mr. Paschall and seconded
by Ms. Webster to keep the agenda as it is and was unanimously passed by voice vote.
B. Scoreboards for Barber Street Sports Complex Baseball Fields.
Ms. Hernandez stated that this item was added to the agenda because Ms. Webster
requested it. She asked Ms. Webster to speak on this subject.
Ms. Webster stated it has been brought to her attention that none of the scoreboards at
the baseball field work. She stated the City thought the leagues maintained the
scoreboards. She studied the lease and did not find it mentioned. Ms. Webster was of
the opinion that for the past several years the City had maintained the scoreboards, and
they are not now being maintained. She recently met with some league members and
stated the condition of the fields is not good, and there are a few safety issues also.
She would like to see the scoreboards running again and the fields better maintained.
Mr. Sims asked if anyone from the baseball leagues has met with someone with the
football group to see who maintains their field. Ms. Webster stated in all the years she
has been involved, the City has maintained the scoreboards and baseball fields, but she
does not know who maintains the football fields. Mr. Sims asked if there is someone in
the baseball league group who could let staff know if the fields are not being properly
maintained. Ms. Webster stated that the leadership has changed in the leagues, and
there has been a decrease in the number of participants, but she thinks that the
numbers will go back up as there is some better advertising, etc. Mr. Sims suggested
that someone in the league chain of command recognize the needs and will let staff
know. He addressed Ms. Hernandez as to her understanding of who is responsible for
the scoreboards and the condition of the fields. Ms. Hernandez said that is the reason
staff included the contract in the agenda packet, and scoreboards are not significantly
mentioned in the contract. Staff recommends the league present a proposal which
states what is needed for the scoreboards and some idea of how much it would cost.
Staff can then review it and present it to the City Manager. She stated there are two
permanent employees who take care of the whole Barber Street Sports Complex. Ms.
Webster suggested someone from the City inspect the baseball complex to see what
needs to be done. Ms. Hernandez stated she will see that that is done. Ms. Webster
said she will get with Complete Electric to see if they can give her an idea of what needs
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to be done with the scoreboards and the lighting. Mr. Paschall suggested that when
these questions are resolved, an addendum to the contract be drafted so that it is clear
as to who is responsible. Ms. Webster said the league has provided some things at the
field, but she thinks the City should be responsible for the scoreboards.
9. Public Input
William Russell, 1125 Blossom Drive, Sebastian. He is a member of the board of the
Sebastian Little League and is also responsible for the umpires. Sebastian has
professional umpires who do it free of charge. He stated that there are four
scoreboards at the field and only one of them worked during the last season. During
that time no one knew what the status was as far as innings, scores, etc. He informed
the Committee that the scoreboards are so old that repair parts are no longer available.
He is not requesting new scoreboards; he is just asking for the scoreboards to be
operational. He addressed the condition of the grounds, and now that he is aware that
his group should contact someone from the City, he will see that that is done.
10. Staff Matters
A. Park/Facility Use Survey
Ms. Hernandez stated staff had put together a survey sheet requesting public input at
some of the recreational facilities in order for staff to gauge employee resources etc. at
those facilities. She said staff will do this again in November. Mr. Sims suggested
these forms be available online. Ms. Hernandez stated she will see that that is
done.
Ms. Hernandez stated that Beth Powell, who is the County Conservation Lands
Manager, is going to be making a presentation in July to talk about not only the
boardwalk behind the Senior Center, but other conservation lands as well.
11. Board or Committee Member Matters
Ms. Webster thanked the Committee for addressing the scoreboard matters. She also
asked if the items in the article presented by Mr. Jobe should be on the agenda for the
next meeting. Ms. Hernandez stated staff will look into that.
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Mr. Sunnycalb:
• He stated he has talked to Commissioner Joe Flescher about the boardwalk,
since it is in his
district, and Mr. Flescher said he would look at it.
• He suggested that where the mural used to be in Riverview Park, which was
painted over, installing a gazebo with "Sebastian, Florida" writing on it. He
stated there are wedding pictures, graduation pictures, etc. taken in the Park,
and he thinks this would be a positive addition, and he suggested there might be
money from the CRA fund that would pay for it.
• He addressed the lights at the volleyball courts in Riverview Park, that maybe
there could be timers put on the lights to conserve electricity when the courts are
not being used.
• He thanked the City for putting the blue light back on at the Easy Street Park in
recognition of autism and honoring fallen officers. Also regarding Easy Street
Park, he inquired as to the sign asking people not to feed the ducks. Ms.
Hernandez stated that some time ago some Muscovy ducks were removed from
the park, but the ducks are being fed by the public. These ducks should be
removed from the park, but with the public feeding them, it is encouraging the
ducks to stay. She said two signs were put up saying do not feed the ducks, and
the next day one sign was removed. She stated if the City has to get rid of all
the ducks, it means euthanizing them, and staff tried the do -not -feed -the -ducks
signs to see if that was a viable alternative. Mr. Sunnycalb described that
Muscovy ducks can be aggressive and are a nuisance, and he has tried to get
rid of them for years. He stated the public like feeding the ducks, but the
Muscovy ducks are a problem. He also stated that there were only two Muscovy
ducks removed in the past and taken to Fellsmere. Ms. Webster is of the
opinion that it would be better to stop feeding them than to eliminate them. Ms.
Hernandez said staff will look into making the signs look more official in order to
discourage people from removing them. Ms. Webster suggested that if the signs
are left in place maybe people would not feed the ducks as much. Mr.
Sunnycalb said he hates to see it come to the point where the public cannot feed
the ducks, that only the Muscovy ducks are the problem. Mr. Paschall
suggested the decision will have to be made to either not have the ducks at all or
not to feed the ducks, because the park is open to the public.
• He addressed the dog park and the fact that the fountain on the large -dog side is
turned the wrong way so a handicapped chair cannot be used. He said the
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fountain on the small -dog side is correct, and he questioned why the one on the
large -dog side is not installed in the right direction. Ms. Hernandez said she
would look into seeing if the position of the fountain in the large -dog area can be
corrected.
• He noted that things are being done without the Committee having a chance to
discuss them and decide on how to proceed regarding duck signs, fountains,
etc. Ms. Hernandez stated that staff does due diligence before making these
decisions, and she will discuss with the City Clerk what is the role of the
Committee and what is the role of City staff in regard to what items staff should
bring forward to the Committee. Mr. Sunnycalb mentioned it was decided by the
Committee that the benches at the dog park were supposed to be put on
concrete pads, and they were not. Ms. Hernandez stated that all the new
benches were to be put on concrete pads, and the new benches were. The old
benches were never mentioned to be put on concrete pads. Mr. Sunnycalb
stated FPL would be putting in solar panels in two shade shelters. By concreting
the fence on the small -dog side, there is now no room to put a shade shelter.
He asked how there can be a shade shelter installed, and Ms. Hernandez
stated she will have to look into that. She stated the concrete around the fence
was installed to eliminate dogs digging under the fence in order to get from one
side to the other, and there were complaints that dogs were getting out of the
park and running loose. Ms. Webster interjected that things are not always done
as quickly as people would like them to happen, and people need to be patient.
Mr. Sunnycalb agreed that there has been a lot of work done on the dog park,
and he wishes people would appreciate what has been done.
Mr. Paschall mentioned the resurfacing of the tennis courts at Schumann Drive, and if
we are looking at making the changes regarding converting courts for pickle ball,
maybe that could all be incorporated into the bid at one time. As far as community
input, he thinks that if the only course for making changes is through the Committee,
this would just bog things down.
Mr. Sims stated he is disappointed to know that only one bid came in for the pickle ball
courts, but if Schumann Park can be used to convert some of the courts to pickle ball
courts, that might be a viable option.
Mr. Sunnycalb asked if a tennis court is converted to pickle ball courts, will that
decrease the money allocated for building the pickle ball courts, and would it cost
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money to return it to a tennis court. Ms. Webster stated that is why she thought it
should be on the next meeting agenda. Ms. Hernandez stated it would definitely be
under Unfinished Business on the next agenda. Mr. Paschall stated he would interpret
the conversion as happening one time and not to switch back, and based on the sheer
number of people playing pickle ball, there is a need for more pickle ball courts. Mr.
Sunnycalb agreed. Ms. Webster gave her opinion that while waiting for the completion
of the bidding process at the Friendship Tennis Courts, if there could be the conversion
in the Schumann complex, it would not be a waste. The members of the Committee
were in agreement.
12. Items for the Next Aoenda and Date -- July 23, 2018
13. Adjourn -- Chairman Sims called for any further business. Hearing none, he
adjourned the meeting at 7:19 p.m.
By
Matthew Sims, Chairman
Parks and Recreation Committee
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