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AGENDA
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
PARKS & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Monday, JANUARY 28, 2019
6:00 PM
1) CALL TO ORDER
2) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3)ROLL CALL
4) COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT SELECT AN ACTING CHAIR FOR MEETING
5) AGENDA MODIFICATIONS
Modifications and additions require unanimous vote of members. Deletions do not apply.
6) APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
July 23, 2018 Meeting Minutes
7) UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
Item A: Pickle Ball Complex Update
Item B: Scoreboards for Barber Street Sports Complex Baseball Fields Update
8) PUBLIC INPUT
9) NEW BUSINESS:
Item A: Committee Member Discussion about Adopt -A -Park
Item B: Review and Consider 2019 Committee Meeting Calendar
10) STAFF MATTERS
Item A: Current Project(s) Update
Item B: Upcoming Special Events and Committee involvement
11) BOARD OR COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTERS
12) ITEMS FOR THE NEXT AGENDA AND DATE: February 25, 2019
13) ADJOURN
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Board Meetina Date: January 28, 2019
Agenda Item Title: Meeting Minutes from July 23, 2018
Recommendation:
Backaround:
If Aaenda Item Reauires Expenditure of Funds:
Total Cost: n/a
Attachments:
Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee, Minutes of Regular Meeting, July 23, 2018
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
JULY 23, 2018
1. Call to Order -- Chairman Sims called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. Pledae of Allegiance was recited by all.
3. Roll Call
Present:
Mr. Matthew Sims
Mr. Jay McKinniss
Mr. Jim Sunnycalb (a)
Not Present:
Ms. JoAnn Webster -- Excused
Mr. Greg Paschall -- Excused
Ms. JoAnne White -- Excused
Also Present:
Mr. Paul Carlisle, City Manager
Mr. Ken Killgore, Administrative Services Director/CFO
Ms. Margarita Hernandez, Parks Administrator
Ms. Janet Graham, Technical Writer
4. Announcements and/or Agenda Modifications
A. Chairman Sims introduced the new City Manager, Mr. Paul Carlisle.
5. Approval of Minutes -- Regular Meeting of June 25, 2018
A motion to approve the June 25, 2018 Minutes as written was made by Mr. Sunnycalb,
seconded by Mr. McKinniss, and passed unanimously by voice vote.
6. Unfinished Business
A. Pickle Ball Courts Update
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Ms. Hernandez reviewed that at the last meeting staff was requested to go back and
look at other options for the pickle ball courts, including possibly converting some of the
Schumann Drive tennis courts, rebidding, etc. The latest update is that staff is looking
at other contractual avenues without necessarily going through the whole bidding
process again. Those options include possibly making some site modifications to bring
costs down. Conversion of the courts at Schumann is not going to take place. Staff was
also asked to look into resurfacing of the tennis courts at Schumann, and these are
being requested to be resurfaced during the next fiscal year.
7. Public Input as to Item A:
• Ben Hocker, 124 Larchmont Terrace, Sebastian. He commented on the funding
for pickle ball courts, describing the manner in which money is to be distributed
throughout the parks in the City. He read from an article described as a copy of
the City ordinance which states funds may not be used on a neighboring park
facility located in a different recreation zone than the one containing the original
development. He read from another document that stated funds were taken
from certain zones and put into park facilities in other zones, which he is of the
opinion is in violation of the City ordinance.
• Eileen Hanley, 656 S. Easy Street, Sebastian. She stated that in December
2016 it was reported by TC Palm that the City had approved hiring an engineer
to develop three designs for expansion at Friendship Park, including dedicated
pickle ball courts. She described that pickle ball players now share the tennis
courts at Schumann Drive by adding new boundary lines on the tennis courts for
pickle ball. Because of pickle ball's growing popularity, it is getting more and
more difficult for their players to get court time at Schumann, and there is now
friction between the tennis players and the pickle ball players. Her group is
requesting that the City move forward with having dedicated pickle ball courts at
Schumann Park at the earliest possible date.
• Mary Leahy, 9540 Sea Grape Drive, Vero Beach. She inquired what the reason
is for the City completely ruling out conversion of courts at Schumann Drive.
• Rosemarie Tiernan, 104 Elena Court, Sebastian. She mentioned a sign at
Schumann Park regarding 2-hour play, and she would like some clarification as
to what that sign means. She also mentioned that the situation is becoming very
tense at Schumann.
• Hank Gurczynski, Sebastian. He applauded the City for building the Schumann
Park tennis courts. He stated the tennis courts are very heavily used, and the
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tennis courts should not have to be converted to accommodate pickle ball.
• Tony Ona, 873 Clearmont Street, Sebastian. He queried why the idea of the
tennis courts being converted to pickle ball courts was denied without any further
discussion. Mr. Sims replied that City staff gave an explanation tonight of what
is going to happen going forward, and his question would be better raised to City
Council.
• Tim Jobe, 13570 Westport Drive, Sebastian. He questioned, if the pickle ball
group organizes an association like the tennis group has, will the pickle ball
association be given the same rights as the tennis group to reserve the courts.
Mr. Sims stated this is not the forum to discuss that issue, but if he goes to the
City's website there is contact information there so that he can contact the right
department in order to get that question answered.
• Kim O'Connell, 1231 Iroquois Drive, Barefoot Bay. She is the Secretary of the
tennis club, and she is the person who reserves the courts. She feels there may
be a misunderstanding about this issue which may be part of the problem. She
explained how often, how long and how many of the courts are reserved by the
tennis club. Two of the courts are not reserved by the tennis club, and whoever
shows up first has the right to play on those two courts.
• Craig Hanley, 656 S. Easy Street, Sebastian. He also believes that there is a lot
of misinformation and misunderstanding about the use of the courts. He also
questions why it was decided not to convert some of the tennis courts at
Schumann to pickle ball courts.
• Patricia Reinbacher, 208 Calico Court, Barefoot Bay. She is the Vice President
of the tennis club. She stated the tennis club supports the pickle ball group's
efforts to secure their own courts and believes the two groups should be able to
share what they already have until the finances, etc. are available to construct
dedicated pickle ball courts. She explained that when there is a tennis
tournament, all six courts are needed, but out of consideration for the pickle ball
group, her group is considering reducing the number of monthly tennis
tournaments from two to one.
• Bart Allen, 6279 Mirror Lake Drive, Sebastian. He is of the opinion that the
tennis courts should be left to tennis and pickle ball courts should be built for and
dedicated to pickle ball. Mr. Carlisle emphasized that the City is committed to
building pickle ball courts, but he does not want to overspend for those courts in
the interests of expediency. He stated the City is determined to do it the right
way, as there have to be considerations for parking, lighting, etc., and they are
looking to get the most courts possible for the money that has been budgeted.
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• Sharon Mills, 5165 Wilden Road, Micco. She does not play pickle ball in
Sebastian because it is too confusing, which is because there are not dedicated
pickle ball courts. She believes if they had their own courts, pickle ball would be
even more popular in Sebastian.
• Ron Van Kamp, 768 Periwinkle Drive. He asked if pickle ball lines are going to
be maintained on the surface even after the tennis courts have been resurfaced.
Mr. Carlisle stated the striping will be maintained on courts 5 and 6. Mr. Van
Kamp asked if there is a target date for the pickle ball courts, and Mr. Sims
stated the project is going forward, but these things take time, and for the pickle
ball group to continue to be patient.
• Will Gaudreau, Vero Beach. He stated the friction that has been mentioned is a
fact, as other communities are wrestling with this as well since pickle ball has
become so popular. He addressed the double striping on the courts and how
confusing the pickle ball lines are for tennis players, but that he prefers to play
tennis in Sebastian.
Mr. Sunnycalb complimented the City for their progress in creating the recreation areas
that are in place now, some of which took years to get completed, and he asked for
everyone to be patient, as he feels certain that the pickle ball courts will be something
to be proud of.
Mr. Sims agreed with Mr. Carlisle's and Mr. Sunnycalb's statements and thinks there
should be dedicated courts for both sports. He stated because this is a small
community, it takes time for these projects to be completed, and he also asked for the
public to be patient. He suggested that, since there are representatives from the two
groups here tonight, they come together and discuss their differences, and maybe they
can work some of the problems out. He acknowledged that he has received and read
many emails from members of both groups. He reiterated what Mr. Sunnycalb said
about this being an advisory committee only, for the purpose of getting ideas from the
public, experts, staff, etc. about different projects.
B. Scoreboards for Barber Street Sports Complex Baseball Fields Update
Ms. Hernandez reviewed that the condition of the scoreboards was discussed at the
June meeting, and staff committed to evaluating them and reporting back to the
Committee their findings. After an assessment by staff, it was found that three of the
four scoreboards are working. It is only the one in field 2 that needs to be completely
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replaced. In reviewing the contract with staff, it appears the City gave up the
concession rights to the Sebastian Area Little League so that the funds generated by
these concession stand rights would be used towards replacements such as this. She
also clarified that the City has been grooming and striping the fields, and that will
continue; however, this is being done as a courtesy to the Little League. Staff suggests
that, if the Little League decides there is a need for replacement of the fourth
scoreboard, they reach out to obtain corporate sponsorship in order to replace the
scoreboard. There was also a question as to the home plate in field 4, and this was
replaced by staff. She also clarified that there is only one permanent employee at the
complex, and not two as was stated at the last meeting.
Public Inout as to Item B
• Ben Hocker, 124 Larchmont Terrace, Sebastian. He brought up the subject of
the Yacht Club. There is a flood light at the site the purpose of which is to light
up the boat ramp. This light is being obscured by a tree that has grown up, and
he is inquiring about having that situation rectified. During the hurricane the
handicapped access was destroyed. He asked who should be contacted about
the situations at the Yacht Club. Mr. Sims stated that he would find out. Mr.
Carlisle stated he and Mayor Hill went to the site, and he has talked to staff
about investigating having a floating dock installed.
8. New Business:
A. Guest Speaker: Beth Powell, County Conservation Lands Manager
Ms. Hernandez introduced Ms. Powell who talked about county conservation lands and
also about the boardwalk behind the Senior Center.
Ms. Powell made a Power Point presentation which reviewed the conservation areas
that are already open to the public in the City and the areas that are planned to be
opened in the near future, as well as the primary purposes of establishing conservation
areas. She presented an overview of the conservation program beginning in 1990.
She showed the map of the conservation areas that are available to the public. She
described the management activities that are being undertaken in the County and the
volunteer opportunities that are available.
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Mr. McKinniss requested information on the subjects she spoke about this evening.
She said the Power Point presentation is available, and she will be happy to return to
talk about anything else regarding conservation that the Committee would like to cover
and if anyone would like more information, they can contact her and she will be happy
to speak with them.
Ms. Powell spoke regarding issues about the boardwalk behind the Senior Center not
looking clean. She explained that the material that was used to construct the
boardwalk was a recycled composite material, and, even though the deck might look
dirty, it is just the way the grain and texture of that material appears. She stated that it
is not possible to use chemicals over the lake to clean the boardwalk, and also getting
the equipment to these remote areas is difficult.
Mr. Sims asked regarding the footbridge over 195 and where the access is to that part
of the trail. Ms. Powell stated that the trail information is on their website in the section
on Greenway Corridors.
Mr. Sunnycalb stated regarding the boardwalk behind the Senior Center, when it was
cleaned sometime ago it made a big difference. Ms. Powell stated it was cleaned again
immediately after the complaint was made, a few weeks ago. Mr. Sunnycalb also
asked if there is some way the public can be alerted to the fact that the trail is there.
Ms. Powell said there is a brochure available to the public that shows all the different
trails and also contains a trail map.
Ms. Powell also addressed the problem of the public feeding the scrub jays and how
detrimental it is to their successful reproduction cycle.
Mr. Sunnycalb inquired as to when the Sebastian Harbor area will be completed. Ms.
Powell stated the goal is to have the trails completed within a year and the parking area
and pavilion completed within two years.
9. Staff Matters
A. Summary of Staff's Recommended Recreational CIP Improvements
Ms. Hernandez stated staff is sharing what they are recommending as capital
improvement projects for City Council's consideration, and she clarified that these have
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not yet been approved by City Council; they are recommendations made by staff. On
September 17th there will be a special meeting at which time these recommendations
as well as the millage will be considered by City Council.
Mr. Sunnycalb mentioned the fact that at the last meeting he proposed a gazebo at
Riverview Park. He suggested that since Lisa Monier -Robinson has passed away and
she was behind the arts festival, a gazebo honoring her might be constructed.
Mr. Sims asked if any of the Committee members need to be present at the meeting on
September 17th. Mr. Carlisle stated they are welcome to attend and make any
comments they feel appropriate, and there will be a workshop on the budget in August.
He said there will be two public hearings in September on the budget and where the
millage will be set, and if the Committee has any questions, they should contact Ms.
Hernandez or Mr. Carlisle.
10 Board or Committee Member Matters
Mr. Sims thanked the staff for all the work they have done and also thanked the
audience for how they comported themselves during the meeting.
11. Items for the Next Aoenda and Date: August 27, 2018
12. Adjourn -- Chairman Sims called for any further business. Hearing none, he
adjourned the meeting at 7:35 p.m.
By
Matthew Sims, Chairman
Parks and Recreation Committee
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Board Meetina Date: January 28, 2019
Aaenda Item Title: UNFINISHED BUSINESS; Pickle Ball Complex Update
Recommendation:
Backaround: The City Council has approved the restroom facility and
approved the purchase price of $60,896.79 from CXT
Inc. The City is currently working with the project
engineer and contractor to get the final proposal for
construction of the courts. Once we receive this
information the City plans to include this on the next City
Council agenda if all stays on schedule.
If Aaenda Item Reauires Expenditure of Funds:
Total Budgeted for Project: $
Attachments: N/A
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Board Meetina Date: January 28, 2019
Aaenda Item Title: UNFINISHED BUSINESS; Scoreboards for Barber Street
Sports Complex Baseball Fields Update
Recommendation:
Backaround: The Sebastian Little League program approached the
City in regards to the scoreboards at Barber Street not
working. City staff tried to get parts to fix the
scoreboards, however ran into issues with the age of the
existing scoreboards. The Little League program
purchased a new scoreboard for Field 2; City staff was
able to get Field 1 scoreboard working. Fields 3 & 4
currently do not work. The City and the Little League
program have split the cost for an additional new
scoreboard which should arrive this week.
If Agenda Item Reauires Expenditure of Funds:
Total Expense for Project: $1,413.50 City's portion of 1 new scoreboard
Attachments: N/A
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Board Meetina Date: January 28, 2019
Agenda Item Title: Committee Member discussion about implementing
Adopt -A -Park program for members.
Recommendation: Staff would like to see the Adopt -A -Park program
implemented with each Committee member having a few
parks to report on each month. The idea is to not make
this a formal process, however to just allow the
Committee members a chance to bring to the City their
ideas or concerns within specific parks.
Background: The idea behind the Adopt -A -Park program for
Committee members would include the following:
1) Each committee member would take on the
responsibility of checking a few parks monthly.
2) At each committee meeting the member would
provide a report (if any) to the committee with any
items they recognized or heard from park patrons.
These items can be maintenance related, budget
related, suggestions, or positive input from the
condition of the facility.
This program would provide an outside perspective of the
parks to City staff.
If Aaenda Item Reauires Exaenditure of Funds:
Total Cost: n/a
Attachments: N/A
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Board Meeting Date: January 28, 2019
Agenda Item Title: Review and Consider 2019 Committee Meeting Calendar
Recommendation: Recommend approval of the presented 2019 Meeting
Calendar for the Parks & Recreation Advisory Committee
Background: The City of Sebastian Parks & Recreation Advisory
Committee has historically met the 4th Monday of each
month. Attached is a list of meeting dates for 2019 that
accommodates holidays and schedule conflicts.
If Agenda Item Requires Expenditure of Funds:
Total Cost: n/a
Attachments:
2019 Meeting Dates
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PROPOSED 2019 MEETING CALENDAR
Committee Members,
Below is a list of proposed 2019 meeting dates for your consideration. The
Committee has historically met on the 4th Monday of the month, however due to
some holiday conflicts I have adjusted the calendar to include a monthly meeting
each month:
• January 28th
• February 25th
• March 25th
• April 22rd
• May 201h
• June 24th
• July 22nd
• August 261h
• September 23'd
• October 28th
• November 25th
• December 16th