HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-13-2020 BAC MinutesCITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 13, 2020
I. Chairman Napier called the Citizens Budget Review Advisory Committee meeting
to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. Pledae of Alleaiance was recited by all.
III. Roll Call
Present
Mr.
Gilbert Lewin
Mr.
Bruce Hoffman
Mr.
Ed Herlihy
Mr.
Larry Napier
Mr.
Harry Hall
Ms.
Amber Cards
Ms.
Andrea Ring (a)
Absent
Mr. Keerthi Weragoda (a) — Excused
Mr. Ralph Holmes -- Excused
Also Present
Mr. Paul Carlisle, City Manager
Mr. Ken Killgore, Administrative Services Director/CFO
Ms. Cindy Watson, Human Resources Manager
Ms. Janet Graham, Technical Writer
IV. Introduction of Members (Name and ADDointeel
Mr. Napier introduced Mr. Lewin and welcomed him as a Committee member.
Selection of Chairoerson
Mr. Napier asked for motions. Mr. Hoffman made a motion to nominate Mr. Larry Napier
as Chairperson. Ms. Cards seconded the motion. Hearing no further nominations, the
motion was approved by voice vote of six ayes and one nay.
VI. Selection of Vine-Chairoerson
Mr. Napier asked for motions. Mr. Hoffman made a motion to nominate Mr. Ed Herlihy.
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Mr. Napier seconded the motion. Hearing no further nominations, the motion was
approved unanimously by voice vote.
VII. Aooroval of Minutes. Meetina of Auaust 19. 2019
Mr. Napier called for any corrections or additions to the Minutes. Ms. Ring indicated she
had several that she would like to address.
• She stated she preferred that the Minutes be prepared verbatim rather than having
a summary. She referred to the discussion that was held after Mr. Hall had spoken.
She feels that the Committee came to a different conclusion than what is stated in
the Minutes.
Mr. Napier asked the Committee members for their opinions on this subject.
Mr. Herlihy stated no other Committee or Board has done verbatim transcripts because
there is an accurate video recording which is kept by the City Clerk. Also, he stated the
expense of verbatim transcripts should be considered.
Ms. Cerda stated she does not see a need for it. She added that, even though it's a
summary, the summary can be adjusted.
Mr. Hoffman is satisfied with the way the Minutes are presented.
Mr. Napier asked Mr. Carlisle for input on the subject.
Mr. Carlisle stated he does not see a need for it. A person can go back and listen to the
audio tape. A person can also go back and look at the video tape, as they are on line.
That way, one can see if the transcript of the Minutes matches the conclusions that were
reached by the board or committee. If not, then the member could bring it forward at the
next meeting and ask for changes. It would then be up to the board or committee if they
agreed with those changes or not. The majority of the board would then make a
determination as to whether the summary minutes were deemed accurate and make
adjustments as needed.
Ms. Ring stated she has a copy of the video, and it is her opinion that the Minutes do not
match the video.
Mr. Napier asked Ms. Ring to identify what specifically she is talking about
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Ms. Ring stated there is a motion that had been made that is not on the video, but it is
stated in the Minutes.
Mr. Napier asked how that could be, as the video camera runs the whole time throughout
the meeting.
Ms. Ring stated these Minutes have been edited from day 1. The video has been edited
since day 1 also.
Mr. Napier asked who made a motion that was not on the video.
Ms. Ring stated she has the video, and the motion is not on it.
Mr. Herlihy inquired of Mr. Carlisle if there are audio recordings still being done as had
been done in the past.
Mr. Carlisle stated no, that everything is captured on live video now, and it's backed up
by YouTube. The YouTube video cannot be edited.
Mr. Herlihy recalled that in the past cassettes were used.
Mr. Carlisle stated that that technology is antiquated. Cassettes are not easily available
anymore. There is no way to back up a cassette; the meeting videos are all backed up
on servers.
Mr. Napier suggested Ms. Ring get all her facts together and submit them at the next
meeting, and the Committee will address it. He asked Ms. Ring if she wanted to identify
what motion was made that is not on the video. She stated it was a motion made by Mr.
Hoffman.
Mr. Carlisle explained that he was told by the IT personnel that the computer that the
Recording Secretary uses is a separate recording than what is going over the airwaves,
and that is a transcript that is separate from the other system, and it is an exact duplicate
of what goes out over the air.
Ms. Ring inquired if that could be gotten in writing.
Ms. Cards stated that if it can be proven that there were errors made, that would be a
reason to move forward with a verbatim transcript.
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Mr. Napier stated it seems to be the consensus of the Committee as well as the City
Manager that verbatim minutes are not necessary, and he asked Ms. Ring to get herfacts
together and bring them forward at the next meeting.
• Mr. Hoffman called attention to the Minutes on Page 2, the third sentence in the
first full paragraph where it says, "...the City should have a balance of
$4,917,000.00." He asked if that could be identified more specifically as the
Unassigned General Fund Balance.
Mr. Killgore stated that is accurate, and there is no problem in making that change.
Mr. Herlihy asked if all of it is unreserved.
Mr. Killgore stated that is correct. Its not committed.
Mr. Hoffman said there is another $800,000.00 to $900,000.00 that is assigned.
Mr. Killgore stated that is correct. This is the amount after deducting that from cash and
investments.
• Mr. Killgore pointed out that on Page 3 where it describes a motion on the proposed
Capital Improvements Program, that should read the motion was to approve the
Third Quarterly Report and not the Capital Improvements Program.
• Mr. Killgore pointed to Page 4 where it describes a motion on the Capital
Improvements Program, that should read the motion was to approve the currently
proposed Draft Budget Report and the Capital Improvements Program.
• Mr. Killgore pointed to Item VI, General Discussion by Members, the first line
should read Mr. Hall instead of Mr. Hill.
Mr. Napier asked if there were any other changes. Hearing none, he called for a motion
to approve the Minutes with the changes as noted above. A motion to accept the Minutes
with the proposed changes was made by Mr. Hoffman, seconded by Ms. Cerda and
approved by voice vote of six ayes and Ms. Ring voting nay.
Vill. Review of Fourth Quarterly Report
Mr. Killgore reviewed the fourth quarter of 2019 report for the end of the fiscal year,
September 30th. (SEE ATTACHED.) It's presented in the same typical format. It includes
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an Agenda Summary to City Council that includes the Resolution and all the budget
adjustments or changes that have been made for that quarter. Those are adjustments
that were approved by City Council during the quarter. The second section are the
adjustments that are being asked for at the end of the quarter. The last section sets forth
the adjustments that are within the City Manager's purview to move funds between
accounts.
He commented that there was an adjustment made at the end of the quarter as a result
of proceeds received from Hurricane Irma that came in during that year.
Mr. Carlisle further described that hurricane proceeds from FEMA went back into the
General Fund to reimburse the General Fund for the outlay. No hurricane funds were
used to pay out for a retiring employee.
Mr. Killgore stated the Executive Summary charts that are presented set forth a summary
of the General Fund, where the monies came from, how they compared to the budget,
and what the uses of those funds were. It is shown that at the end of the year there was
$5,119,073.00. When the budget was constructed for the current fiscal year of 2020-21,
it was assumed based on the projections that there would be $5,046,000.00. There is a
chart on hurricane recoveries. The City is still waiting on final determinations from FEMA
and the State. He reviewed that just recently the final payment on Irma was received.
He had mentioned in the past that there had been 100% reimbursement from Irma based
on what was submitted. But then FEMA did authorize an additional percentage of
reimbursement of the federal share. That finishes the reimbursements on Hurricane Irma.
Mr. Hoffman asked what happened to the $81,000.00 that was received from FEMA. Mr.
Killgore stated he has had correspondence with FEMA, and he has received written
correspondence that they were going to submit an invoice back to the City for
reimbursement of the $81,000.00. That has not been received. That $81,000.00 has
been put in a liability account, so when FEMA asks for reimbursement, it will not have any
effect on the budget.
Ms. Ring inquired how long the City has to hold that money. Mr. Killgore stated the
regulations allow FEMA five years to address it in an audit, and it may take a year after
that.
Mr. Killgore reviewed the four largest funds: Stormwater, Golf Course, Airport, and
Building funds. He reviewed the Capital Projects Status Report. There is a report on
where the City's funds are deposited. The balance of the report is the accomplishments
that the different departments have submitted to his office.
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He stated work is being done on devising a strategic plan to establish some benchmarks
and items of priority to be working on. Once that is achieved, he stated he will be able to
supplement the more narrative portions of his report with more meaningful data.
Mr. Killgore then asked for any questions or comments from any members of the
Committee.
Mr. Hoffman stated it appears the City did extremely well in controlling operating
expenses. He asked for an explanation for the section of the General Fund Departments
report labeled "Non -Departmental." Mr. Killgore stated that includes $447,241.00 that
was included to balance the budget. Mr. Killgore stated the percentage of spending for
all the departments in the General Fund worked out to 96.5%, which usually is up in the
97% to 98% range.
Mr. Hoffman asked about the status of the Clear Village software case.
Mr. Carlisle stated that is not an issue. The City has sent Clear Village a demand letter,
and they did not respond. So the City is basically done with Clear Village.
Mr. Herlihy reinforced what Mr. Hoffman said. He stated the City has done a marvelous
job of operating within the budget. He commended the City employees, Mr. Carlisle, and
Mr. Killgore for a job very well done. He opined that the City is in good financial shape.
Mr. Napier concurred.
IX. Review Budoet Calendar and Discuss Next Meetinc Date (Monday. March 16.
2020
Mr. Napier asked for any comments from the Committee members. There were none.
X. General Discussion by Members
Mr. Lewin:
• Stated he appreciates being a member of this Committee and is looking forward
to working with everyone.
Mr. Hoffman:
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• Inquired about the status of the audit. Mr. Killgore stated he has been promised
to receive a draft any day. He estimates that the audit will be completed sometime
in March. He also stated that the auditors to this time have not indicated anything
they have issues with. He said that pretty much what he stated in the quarterly
reports are the final numbers.
• Regarding the Comprehensive Plan, which is being worked on, he inquired if the
$55,000.00 which was taken out of the Unassigned Reserves is going to be
sufficient to cover the costs. Mr. Killgore estimates that it will be sufficient.
• Inquired if there will be a section in the Comprehensive Plan on the financial status
of the City or its intentions. Mr. Carlisle stated that budget is not typically part of
the Comprehensive Plan. It relates more to land use, transportation, etc.
• Regarding the motel on Indian River Drive, he asked about its status. Mr. Carlisle
stated he has had inquiries about the hotel, and Council Member Gilliams wants it
on the agenda to talk about the hotel.
Mr. Herlihy:
• Inquired of Mr. Carlisle whether there will be any significant changes in the budget.
Mr. Carlisle stated there were some changes made when he came on board with
the City. With those changes comes more transparency and accountability.
• Asked Mr. Carlisle when he estimates the strategic plan is going to become public.
Mr. Carlisle stated that will probably be towards the middle of the year. There have
been meetings with staff and the heads of different departments to get their input.
Ms. Ring:
Stated there was a grant received for $50.000.00 to put in another baffle box, but
that money went to the Boy Scouts and the oyster project. She said the Indian
River lagoon Council has offered to provide someone to write grants, and she
thinks that should be considered.
Opined thatthe City should think about installing two more baffle boxes. Mr. Napier
stated he thinks grants should be funneled through the City Manager's office to
make its way to the budget. Ms. Ring stated she thinks she should be able to
request it in this setting.
Mr. Hall:
• Stated he thinks that anybody on this Committee should be able to make requests
that should be considered. Mr. Napier stated that is the case, and that occurs
when this Committee makes their recommendations to City Council.
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Mr. Napier:
• Commented that he is very pleased with the changes that have been made over
the last three years, and he thinks the City is in very sound financial shape.
XI. Public Comments -- None
XII. Adjourn
There being no further business, Chairman Napier concluded the meeting at 6:46 p.m.
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