HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-06-2020 NRB MinutesCITY OF SEBASTIAN
NATURAL RESOURCES BOARD
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 6, 2020
Chairman Stadelman called the Natural Resources Board to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. Pledoe of Alleaiance was recited by all.
III. Roll Call
Present:
Ms. Donna Ware
Mr. Charles Stadelman
Mr. Patrick Powers
Mr. Thomas Carrano
Ms. Ruth Callaghan (Zoom)
Ms. Nikki Mosblech (Zoom)
Mr. Jeff Carrier
Ms. Jessica Lovell (Zoom)
Also Present:
Ms. Kim Haigler, Environmental Technician
Ms. Lisa Frazier, Community Development Director
Mr. Robert Loring, Senior Planner
Ms. Barbara Brooke -Reese, MIS Manager
Ms. Janet Graham, Technical Writer (Zoom)
IV. ADoroval of Minutes — August 4, 2020 and September 1, 2020
Mr. Stadelman called for a motion to approve the Minutes of August 4, 2020. Motion to
approve the August 4, 2020 Minutes as presented was made by Mr. Carrano, seconded
by Ms. Ware, and approved unanimously via voice vote. Mr. Stadelman then called for a
motion to approve the Minutes of September 1, 2020 as presented. Motion to accept the
Minutes of September 1, 2020 as presented was made by Mr. Carrano, seconded by Ms.
Ware, and approved unanimously via voice vote.
V. Announcements
A. Open position on the Board
Ms. Haigler said there is a full Board now with the addition of the newest member, Jeffrey
Carrier.
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B. "A Day in the Life" Water Quality Event on October 24th
Ms. Haigler staled this is an event that is done every year. Different members of the
Board have volunteered to help each year. There is also a group of school students who
participate as well as a Boy Scout group. This year it is going to be on Saturday. It starts
at 8:00 a.m. and is done before noon. It is a well -organized water quality sampling. It is
called "Snapshot Day." They will be doing the same water quality data collection at
several locations up and down the coastline of the Lagoon. She is asking for volunteers
from the Board to help. The volunteers will meet at 8:00 a.m. at Fisherman's Landing.
Ms. Ware, Mr. Carrano, Ms. Lovell, and Ms. Callaghan volunteered.
C. Keep Indian River Beautiful Coastal Clean-up Day on October 17th
Ms. Haigler stated she did not get the details in time to give them to the Board tonight,
but she will email them out to the Board in case anyone would like to participate.
D. November 3rd Meeting
Ms. Haigler addressed the fact that November 3rd is the presidential election day. She
suggested cancelling that meeting and reconvening in December. At that time, the
Sustainable Sebastian Action Plan and the spreadsheet will be available to discuss. After
general discussion, Mr. Stadelman called for a motion to have a meeting on November
3, 2020 as scheduled. A motion to hold the November 3rd meeting as scheduled was
made by Mr. Carrano, seconded by Ms. Ware, and approved unanimously via voice vote.
VI. Public Input
Seeing no one in Chambers and hearing no one on Zoom, Mr. Stadelman moved on to
the next agenda item.
VII. New Business
A. Integrated Pest Management (IPM)
Parks and Properties IPM Plan: Presenting to City Council on
October 14th.
Ms. Haigler slated that the Parks and Properties IPM Plan will be presented to City
Council on October 141h. Ms. Callaghan stated she will be there to show support for the
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Plan. Ms. Haigler stated she will send the Agenda out to everyone on the Board, and
anyone who is interested Is Invited to attend.
Stormwater IPM Plan: Looking for at least three volunteers from the
Board to serve on the Stormwater IPM Committee
Ms. Haigler explained that staff is looking to get the Stormwater IPM Plan underway. She
stated she needs at least three volunteers from the Natural Resources Board to serve on
this Committee. The regular meeting dates have not yet been decided upon. Those will
be decided at the first meeting. The IPM Committee usually meets at 3:00 p.m. on a
Monday or a Tuesday. Depending on who signs up, staff will work out which day will be
best. It will be every other week. Mr. Stadelman, Mr. Carrano, Ms. Callaghan, and Ms.
Lovell volunteered. Ms. Haigler stated any other Board members who are interested in
this project are welcome to attend any of the meetings. She will let everyone know when
the meetings will be held.
B. Final Draft "Conservation and Coastal Management" Element of the
City's Comprehensive Plan --per request
Ms. Haigler stated that the final draft is available on the City's website home page for
anyone to read. She called for comments/questions from the Board members regarding
this item.
Mr. Powers:
Stated he has looked it over, and it is impressive. It is even more encouraging as
a resident to know that things like this are going to be done. He wholeheartedly
supports the Plan.
Ms. Ware:
Regarding the conversion from septic to sewer, she would like to be able to say
that in 10 years the City will start to expand that from just the coastal area into
more populated areas. She asked if there is any plan whatsoever in this new Plan
that addresses that.
Ms. Frazier stated the Planning and Zoning commissioners were also very adamant about
that. She stated that in the Infrastructure Element there is language stating that the City
will look at ways of expanding Its ability to do that. She explained that utilities are owned
by the County, and it would be very expensive and would take a lot of effort to get
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everyone connected, for instance in the Highlands. She emphasized that it could be
done, but it would be very expensive. She also explained that all new subdivisions must
connect to sewer and water.
• As to all the rain over the last couple of weeks, Ms. Ware asked if there are certain
areas within the City that the septic is getting flooded out so that those kinds of
issues can be addressed.
Ms. Frazier reviewed that there is a study that was performed by Indian River County
several years ago, and it identified the high -risk areas in the County, and the Highlands
area south of CR-512 was listed as a high -risk area. Again, in order to provide sewer for
everyone in that area would be very expensive.
Ms. Callaghan:
Agrees that the Comprehensive Plan was quite well written. She called attention
to one phrase on Page 12 of the document, Objective 5-1.5, Protect Air Quality.
The first sentence talks about meeting or exceeding federal standards. She
opined that many times the word "exceeding" can mean it is above what is
desirable. Also on Page 12, Objective 5-1.5.3, Land Use and Transportation, she
commented that when looking at transportation and mobility elements, some
communities she has lived in have a truck idling rule that addresses diesel
emissions. She suggested considering working toward limiting idling time of
vehicles.
Ms. Frazier suggested using the word "maintaining" federal standards instead of
"exceeding" those standards.
Mr. Carrano:
Regarding septic -to -sewer conversion, he suggested that the whole document
seems to ignore nitrogen loading of ground water which eventually works its way
into the local waterways. He stated there are individual denitrificalion sanitary
systems out there that come as close to a sewage treatment plan as can be done
on an individual basis. He suggested that wording to that effect could be added
in Objective 5-1.4.13, Septic -to -Sewer Conversion. There is evidence of nitrogen
discharge at Hardee Park and local waterways, but it does not seem to be
acknowledged anywhere in this document. He thinks it should be mentioned
under Water Quality Protection.
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Ms. Haigler stated that on Page 31, under Description of Water Quality, it does cover the
TMDL for nutrients. It does not particularly mention nitrogen loading, but that is covered
in that section as far as urban runoff.
• He is not talking about urban runoff; he is talking about leaching of nitrogen from
septic systems.
Ms. Frazier stated that where it talks about the centralized potable water and sanitary
sewer systems, etc., perhaps in that area a statement can be made such as recognizing
that nitrogen leaching from groundwater is a significant contributing factor to water quality
issues in the lagoon and surface water.
• He thinks that one of the problems Is that sewage treatment plants are looked at
as the only alternative, and they are not.
Ms. Frazier stated there is a policy in the Plan about looking at alternative septic systems
in areas that cannot be connected to the septic systems that are used now. Ms. Haigler
said that subject did come up in the workshop, and it was moved to Infrastructure. Ms.
Frazier will make sure that that language is in the Plan.
Extended discussion was had among several Board members and the staff about how
and where to insert the language that Mr. Carrano had suggested. Ms. Frazier stated
that under Policy 5-1.4.13, it does go right back to the policy in the Infrastructure Element
where she believes it is noted. She will make sure that the language is included.
Inquired if the City keeps track of information of FEMA's repetitive loss properties.
He also inquired whether there are any enhanced regulations for those properties.
Ms. Haigler stated they do. It is required by law. She stated the City just lowered its CRS
rating by one point.
• Commented that the key thing to remember is that this document is a guideline.
The real work is when the Code is adopted to match the guidelines of the Plan.
The Plan is meant to be general. It is meant to set guidelines, but it is when
changes are made to the City's Code that these matters are addressed.
Mr. Carrier:
• Commented when addressing septic -to -sewer conversion, most of his experience
has been in the Florida Keys. He stated that in 1999 there was mandated a shift
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from septic to sewer, and it has only been within the last couple of years that it has
been completed. It was a massive undertaking, probably much more problematic
than would be seen locally simply because the Keys are Pleistocene coral reefs.
The expense to homeowners was significant. Also, the deep water discharge was
a problem. The issue is the timeframe. The Keys worked over 20 years to
complete the project. While the sewer system was being put in several new
technologies emerged for septic systems that handled nitrogen load better than
existing systems. People who have lived in the Keys are now reporting seeing the
bottoms of their canals for the first time In three decades. Water quality has also
improved. He stated it would be nice to encourage that, and he does not think it
is possible to get too early a jumpstart on it, since the timeframe that is being talked
about is significant. The fact that new developments are required to have sewer
is certainly a step in the right direction.
Ms. Mosblech:
On page 17 of the document, Objective 5-2.2, where it talks about Maintenance
of the Flood Plains, one of her concerns is when looking at the 100-year flood
plain and thinking about this as a long-term document, is there a place where an
update to the 100-year flood plain can be Inserted regarding where that will be as
conditions may change over the next decade. Also, under Objective 5-2.2.1, Part
A talks about, "...new development encroaching into the flood plain shall
incorporate flood -protection measures." She stated that just reading that, the
suggestion that the City would allow new development into part of this flood plain
and how much development is a concern for her. She does not know whether
that should be in this section or in Infrastructure.
Ms. Frazier stated that one of the things that will need to be addressed going forward is
addressing flood plain standards and coastal resiliency methods.
• On page 6 of the document, under Policy 5.1.1.15 and 16, in that section, for the
Certificate of Occupancy it is required that there be no nuisance or invasive exotic
vegetations. She would like to see something in the document that allows
notification of nuisance or invasive exotics to be given to residents as they
continue to live in a home and encourage removal of those items.
Ms. Frazier stated that care must be taken not to infringe on private property rights and
creating a program of enforcement that the City cannot maintain. Education is the best
tool in encouraging natives. It is already in the City's Landscape Code to have 50%
natives in new subdivisions and in commercial areas.
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Ms. Haigler mentioned that her department has brochures that are handed out. Also,
whenever she does a tree removal permit for someone, she will write on it what is
approval for removal. She will also list the non-native species that are approved and will
put them on their map. So the permit she issues shows them where their problematic
plants are, and she will have already approved them for removal.
Ms. Lovell:
Is pleased to see Integrated Pest Management and Sustainable Sebastian
included in the Comprehensive Plan.
She compared parts of the previous version to the proposed new document. She
would like to make some recommendations. Starting on page 2, "Restrictive
development activity that would damage or destroy coastal and conservation
resources" was removed as a highlight. She suggested it would be important to
insert that the City is restricting development activity that would damage or destroy
coastal or conservation resources. That was removed from that section. She
recommended that something be inserted that is similar and somewhat
aggressive in that the City is trying to limit the damage to coastal and conservation
resources.
Ms. Frazier asked that Board members try to remember that if they go back to the existing
Comprehensive Plan and try to compare it apples to apples with this one, it is going to be
very difficult. A lot of what was in the existing Plan was moved into different areas. It
may be referenced in a different element.
On Page 3, Policy 5-1.1.3, Endangered or Threatened Species, she suggested a
time frequency to updating that list be added. She opined that it would be important
to try to define that since this is a 20-year plan, as well as try to define some type
of time frequency under Section 5-1.1.8, the Native Habitats, the Inventory and
Assessment. She would like to see a time frequency for those.
Ms. Frazier explained that the data and analyses are captured at this point in time in order
to support the goals, objectives, and policies. When this document is presented to be
reviewed and adopted by the state and the stakeholders, they certainly look at the data
that is captured today. That is not what is really being adopted. What is being adopted
are the goals, objectives, and policies. So to update for the listed species, she does not
think it requires a timeline, because that is out of the City's purview. What it states is that
the City is going to coordinate with the state for the protection of these species. So if that
list changes or not, the City will still coordinate for the protection of these species. She
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explained that if you go to the Native Habitat Inventory, that may be something that a
timeline could be put on.
Ms. Haigler stated the City does not have its own policies on them, but the City is just
coordinating and implementing what the state or federal government have decided. The
City follows their habitat management plans for the species. So it is not really the City's
limeframe.
Ms. Frazier stated Ms. Lovell's suggestion is duly noted.
• Regarding the open spaces that have not been mentioned, under Policy 5-1.1.10,
Open Space (b), it is now being defined that it should be limited to a certain
percentage of the stormwater retention area for that open space. She would
recommend that the City actually define a percentage or define some way to state
that, instead of having more stormwater, it is going to have more land.
Ms. Frazier stated the Land Development Code (LDC) is the appropriate document for
that definition, and the LDC already defines that open water bodies are a certain
percentage of open space.
Asked if that percentage is looking into the future or is that percentage what has
been previously in effect. In other words, has the City increased the percentage?
Ms. Frazier said no. It has been the same for a long time, and she does not think the City
is looking to increase it. What is now being required is that the City's stormwater ponds
should contain littoral shelves. Because of the City's new/revised fee credits, someone
can get a credit for it to do an additional littoral shelf, and a credit can be obtained towards
someone's stormwater fee credit. This is only relating to commercial, not residential. In
residential subdivisions it is required that there be a littoral shelf, so a portion of that
stormwater pond or lake area can be recognized as open space. That is already
addressed in the LDC. When the time comes for updating a lot of these ordinances, Ms.
Haigler will keep this Board apprised as to what is going before the Planning and Zoning
Commission.
• Commented on some opportunities to increase the wildlife habitat. Since this is a
20-year plan, a lot will change in 20 years, and if this can be put forth as a sounding
board to be able to free some of those areas, that would be a positive thing.
• On page 5, Policy 5-1.1.13, Preservation of Native Vegetative Communities, this
is a minimum of 25%. This is an opportunity that Sebastian has to try to increase
that percentage. She would recommend that the City somehow redefine that
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percentage, especially since, by the time there is a house, pool, and three -car
garage, etc., there is not much room for native trees, etc. If there is a way to really
define that, to try to increase that, she would like to see it.
Ms. Frazier explained that this is not 25% of open space; this is a minimum of 25% of
each native vegetative community, including trees. She further explained that the plan is
to set up a tree bank, but that is something that will be done in the future. The City is
trying to maintain the habitat corridors as they exist today. So that 25% is about the native
vegetation on that particular site; it is not necessarily about 25% of open space.
• Regarding the 25%, she is asking for that to be increased.
• Under Section 5-1.2, Protection of Surface Waters, the previous document had
wetlands mentioned there. She thinks it is important that that wording be in the
title as well as wetlands..
• On page 6 under Section 5-1.2.4, Establishing the Wetlands Line, she inquired as
to what the first sentence means. When it says, "No development in a wetland,"
what does that mean. Mr. Carrano stated it means with the exception of a dock or
a bulkhead, etc.
• Ms. Lovell is concerned about development in wetlands. She would like to see
firmer language in that section.
Ms. Frazier again opined that it cannot be stated that someone cannot develop in a
wetland without obtaining permitting options and mitigation options. She does not believe
that is stated in the prior Plan. The state is who determines what the wetland line is, and
they are the ones who determine what the value of that wetand is and what the mitigation
is going to be for that if a permit is obtained to develop in that wetland. What also has
been added is the wetland transition area so that wetland buffer areas are recognized
and held in check in new developments around wetlands.
• Regarding the transition area for the standard that is set, she inquired if that is
where it is defined what can and cannot be built or put in that transition area.
Ms. Frazier stated when someone develops a piece of property the wetland boundary is
set, and the transition or buffer area is established. No development is allowed in the
buffer area. The buffer area becomes part of the protected area. Credit is given for that.
Boardwalks or docks, etc. could be done over the buffer area, but no large structures.
Ms. Haigler stated that on the San Sebastian River it is one-fourth the width of your lot
where there can be a passage cleared to go to a dock, but that is all that is permitted in
a buffer zone.
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Stated that one of the sections that was removed was the Stormwater
Management Plan.
Ms. Frazier stated wording regarding stormwaler management has all been moved to the
Infrastructure element.
• Regarding the fishery, she inquired if that is something that was added to a
different section.
Ms. Frazier stated it could be under Protection of Marine Resources. She will look that
up because she is not certain about that.
• Regarding the Hazardous Waste section, she inquired whether that has been
moved to a different element.
Ms. Haigler stated it is called illicit discharge in the new Plan. The terminology was
changed to be in line with the National Pollutant Discharge and Elimination System
language.
Ms. Frazier stated the maximum for a wetland is all dependent upon the wetland and what
kind of species is attempting to be preserved. So a maximum buffer could be 500 feet.
The minimum standard for St. John's permitting is 15 feet.
Ms. Haigler said the state determines that, not the City. They decide the buffer zone
based on the water body.
In-depth discussion was had between the Board and staff regarding the wording in the
proposed new Comprehensive Plan regarding open space and native vegetative
communities. Ms. Frazier stated that this is not the time or place for discussion of the
Land Development Code. This document is just setting forth the overriding goals and
policies to get the City to the regulations, which is the Land Development Code. She also
pointed out that this is not the time to make major changes to this element tonight. There
has been opportune time for reviewing this document and putting forth comments all
along. She stated she will be happy to bring the suggestions to Planning and Zoning, but
this is not the time.
Ms. Frazier further emphasized that this Board is going to be part of the Committee, just
like what took place with the Integrated Pest Management program, to be part of
addressing the Landscape Code rewrite. There are also individuals in the community
who want to provide input just like what was done in the IPM Plan.
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Mr. Stadelman:
Suggested that, instead of using minimum standards when it comes to wetlands,
etc., use maximum standards instead.
Under Objective 5-2.4.1, Post -Hurricane Assessment, he inquired if the language
can be changed to read Post -Disaster Assessment, so that it is reflective of all
disasters, such as the COVID disaster that is being dealt with now.
Where it says, "The City Council shall appoint a recovery task force," he asked if
anyone knows if the recovery task force has been appointed, who it is comprised
of, and who makes the determinations.
Ms. Frazier said it states in the document that the recovery task force is comprised of the
City Manager, the Building Official, and others as determined by the City Council. This is
in compliance with the City's Emergency Management Plan. She understands his
question, and she is not sure if the appropriate language is to change it here or to add
something else. She stated it is under Objective 5-2.3, Emergency Management. She
suggested the terminology should be stated as Post -Emergency Assessment and
Redevelopment.
• Regarding the Public Facilities Review Committee as well as the Recovery Task
Force, he inquired if there is a 6meframe for those people to be activated after the
City reopens.
Ms. Frazier stated that all these subjects will be included in the City's Management Plan.
There is an Emergency Management Plan that is maintained. If that wording is not in
there, it would be updated to include that wording. Every year there are edits to the
Management Plan. She will verify that.
• As to the Local Peacetime Emergency Plan, under Letter F: Recommending
amendments to the local Peacetime Emergency Plan is actually the plan the City
is under presently. He opined that is really old, and it refers to wartime actions.
He would like to see that wording updated.
• He called attention to page 4, Objective 5-1.1(c), it reads that, "For the protection
of natural resources, wildlife habitats, and City Land Development of Code that
provisions recognize the rights of property owners to use their land in a manner
consistent with rules, policies, and guidelines." He asked if wording to the effect
that provisions recognize everyone else other than the property owners who live
there. It seems like if it is just recognizing the property owners to use their lands
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consistent with the rules, that if they find something, their mitigation is to mitigate
it so far away it is not within the local zone. He would like the wording to recognize
the rights of all people that the land is used in a consistent manner, and everything
is not going to be wiped out. Just below that, under Policy 5-1.1.2, Wildlife
Protection, it says, "The City shall utilize the LDC in the review process" etc. He
asked for clarification regarding that wording.
Ms. Frazier stated that, if he is talking about adverse effects of threatened or endangered
species, a lot of that is state mandated. Lengthy discussion regarding this subject was
had between staff and the Board members.
Ms. Frazier said she will review all of these comments, summarize them, and bring them
in front of the Planning and Zoning Commission, the Land Planning Agency, which is the
recommending body for the Comprehensive Plan. They are meeting October 15th in
order to look at the entire final draft. Staff will bring all of these proposed changes,
updates, and clarifications to them for their consideration. At that point on the 15th, should
the LPA feel confident that they want to recommend the updated Comprehensive Plan
2040 to the City, it will then be brought to City Council. She does not yet know when that
will be. There is consideration being given to doing a workshop or two with City Council
in November/December. The timeline that was established with the state could not be
adhered to because of COVID-19. When City Council determines how they would like to
proceed, staff will let everyone know that. Once City Council does a public hearing, they
will adopt the proposed Comp Plan. When that happens, it is sent out to all of the
stakeholders as well as the state. They then have 30 days to provide staff with any input
or changes, etc. They will then return it to the City. The City then has 180 days to make
those changes and bring it back to City Council for their final adoption hearing. There is
a time period for anyone to challenge it. It is then formally adopted. The schedule which
she just reviewed is on the City's website. Ms. Frazier thanked everyone for the time and
interest they took in reviewing this document.
Public Comment
Seeing no one in Chambers from the public, and there being no one on Zoom for public
comment, Mr. Stadelman moved on to the next item on the agenda.
Vill. Old Business — None
IX. Staff Matters
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Mr. Stadelman voiced his appreciation to staff for all the hard work they put into the
document.
Ms. Ware mentioned that this weekend the Sebastian River Art Club is having the Pelican
Island Conservation Art Show in the Art Center. If the Board wanted to have a table that
would have information about Sustainable Sebastian, that might be a good opportunity.
Ms. Haigler said she will set up a table in that room and provide materials. Ms. Ware
added that the Art Club plans to be in Riverview Park for their shows, and they will have
one every month. If this Board wants to set up a table at any of these shows, feel free to
do that. She will provide the dates for these shows. She suggested that seed packets
could be handed out at the April show.
Ms. Callaghan thanked the City for their recycle event, and she and her family
participated. Ms. Haigler stated at the next meeting she will bring the numbers of how
much was collected at that event.
Mr. Stadelman brought up the Earth Day celebration. Ms. Haigler stated staff will get the
notices out as soon as they know when events can be held again.
XI. Items for Next Acenda
A. Review draft of the Sustainable Sebastian Action Plan Spreadsheet
B. Raising Awareness of Sustainable Sebastian
C. NRB Website Edits
XII. Adjournment
There being no further business, Mr. Stadelman called for a motion to adjourn. Motion to
adjourn was made by Mr. Carrano, seconded by Ms. Ware, and passed unanimously via
voice vote. The meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
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