HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-11-2021 IPM Minutes w/ AttachmentINTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT SUB -COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FL
JANUARY 11, 2021
Call to Order -- The meeting was called to order by Mr. Benton at 2:00 p.m.
Pledae of Alleaiance was recited by all.
Roll call
Present
Dr. Cox
Mr. Carrano
Mr. Stadelman
Ms. Callaghan (Zoom)
Ms. Munroe (Zoom)
Ms. Lovell (Zoom)
Also Present:
Ken Griffin, Stormwater Manager (Zoom)
Brian Benton, Leisure Services Director
Kim Haigler, Environmental Planner
Barbara Brooke -Reese, MIS Manager
Janet Graham, Technical Writer (Zoom)
IV. ADDroval of Minutes — December 8, 2020
Chairman Benton asked if everyone had a chance to review the Minutes as presented.
All indicated they had. Hearing no changes/corrections, Mr. Benton called for a motion.
A motion approving the December 8, 2020 Minutes as presented was made by Mr.
Carrano, seconded by Dr. Cox, and approved unanimously via voice vote.
V. Announcements — None
VI. Public Input
Bob Stephen, Concha Drive, Sebastian. Thanked the Sub -Committee for including
public input.
VII. New Business
A. Chemical Spreadsheet
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i. Review key features and organization
ii. Discuss selection of chemicals listed
Ms. Haigler stated the spreadsheet has been included in the agenda packets for this
meeting. As were discussed at the last meeting, there are 17 classifications of chemicals
that are approved for aquatic use in Florida. Any chemical used falls under one of those
classifications. She reviewed each column on the spreadsheet and explained what that
column contains. She pointed out that many of the chemicals listed are not even used
presently.
Mr. Benton called for questions or comments from the Sub -Committee members. He
reminded everyone that this list is not finalized, and today the action item is for approval
of how the chart is set up.
Or Cox:
• Regarding the December progress reports, there is listed only three or four
different ingredients. He inquired if there are more that are going to be added and,
if so, should those products that will be used going forward be also included in the
list. Ms. Haigler stated the December treatment sheets will be discussed under
the next agenda item.
Mr. Griffin stated he likes the way the spreadsheet is set up.
Mr. Benton called for public input.
Diana Bolton, Sebastian. She stated that when the chemicals are approved for this list,
she understands that some of these chemicals are to be used only under certain
circumstances and in certain areas. She is concerned that, if a chemical is approved for
use in another area of Florida, it might not be good for this area. She is also concerned
that the solution to the pollution is spraying more chemicals, and If those chemicals no
longer work, the solution to that is spraying extra chemicals because those plants are
becoming chemical resistant. When chemicals are mixed, and if those chemicals are
approved for the mixing, is that okay? There is something called the triage effect which
is known in the medical profession where a doctor can prescribe a certain pharmaceutical
drug and another specialist may prescribe another pharmaceutical drug, both of which
are so-called safe, but when the two are mixed they become lethal. When chemicals are
being mixed, is that a prescribed method? Does that kill another species of plant or
animal that we do not want to kill? Does it stay in the environment longer when those are
mixed?
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The other question she has is regarding weather restrictions. During certain times of the
year spraying should not be done. She does not believe in spraying at all. She thinks it
is the most expensive, unhealthy option possible. If spraying is going to be done, are the
weather restrictions taken into consideration? A lot of chemicals have a label that states
that they should not be sprayed under certain weather conditions.
Bob Stephen, Concha Drive, Sebastian. He questioned whether this spreadsheet is
going to be available to the public. He also suggested adding the toxicity of the chemicals
on there so that the public understands that some of these are somewhat dangerous. He
stated there should be some way of alerting the public to the use of these chemicals. He
would like to see Hazmat symbols contained on the spreadsheet.
Mr. Benton reminded the Sub -Committee that the action item is only to approve the chart,
the organization and features of the chart. This Sub -Committee will get more into detail
as it moves forward on the actual chemicals that are on the chart.
Ms. Haigler stated that the label signal ward is included on the spreadsheet. Also, the
EIQ number incorporates environmental and human health effects when that number is
calculated. Regarding the information on the chemical table, limitations for uses and
weather limitations are on the labels. So the licensed applicators consider those things
when they apply the products. She explained that combining chemicals is actually a best
management practice (BMP) for aquatic vegetation treatment because it increases the
selectivity and reduces the amount of chemicals used, which is ideal.
Mr. Benton called for comments/questions from the Sub -Committee members relating to
the chemical spreadsheet.
Dr. Cox
Regarding the column labeled Field Use EIQ, he asked if that would answer Mr.
Stephen's question about notifying folks about how potent or less potent these
chemicals are. Ms. Haigler stated the labeled signal word is what is on the label,
and the EIQ considers all of the environmental and health risks, and the Field Use
EIQ is going to show its effects over time. There are a number of things that are
going to show the toxicity that he is looking for that are already in the table. Dr.
Cox suggested that there be something in a column on the spreadsheet with some
type of a rating of how serious these products are and how less serious they are.
This would save people from having to go somewhere else for that information.
Mr. Benton stated as an example that, if a product is applied on an athletic field
and the reentry period is 24 hours, the field has to remain closed, and there has to
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be signage posted so that people do not enter that field. Ms. Haigler stated these
products are only being sprayed in the stormwater features on the inside of the
shoreline. They are not being sprayed on the outside of the shoreline where
people would be walking. Also, she said the only reentry consideration that is on
these labels, because they are for aquatic use, is about swimming reentry. None
of the City's stormwater is safe for swimming. Dr. Cox stated he is trying to come
up with a way to inform people, without their having to go to the library, etc., that
whatever chemical is being used is safe or unsafe. Dr. Cox stated there is nothing
in the Field Use EIQ column. Mr. Benton reminded everyone that what is being
discussed at this meeting pertains to the organization of the chart and what is
included in the chart. This meeting is not to discuss the specific chemicals and
the specific numbers. This is more about the layout of this chart.
Ms. Munroe stated that she understands the concerns. She suggested that maybe
what might be considered is putting a symbol of what the level of the label warning
is, such as crossbones, etc. Just adding a symbol to the word might help. That
way, even if people do not know what the word itself means, they will recognize
the symbol. She added that the incidents of children or dogs running along the
slope to the waterway is probably low. Ms. Haigler stated the spraying is primarily
along the seawalls of the canals and the interiors of the ponds.
Mr. Benton said staff will look at the symbols that are also on the labels, and they will be
put in where the labeled signal words appear, and that will come back for discussion at
the next meeting. The words and the symbols will both be on the chart. This being an
action item, and there being no further comments from members of the Sub -Committee,
Mr. Benton called for a motion. A motion to approve the spreadsheet with the additions
as discussed above was made by Mr. Stadelman, seconded by Mr. Carrano, and passed
unanimously via voice vote.
B. Aquatic Vegetation Control 1st Month Summary
Sites and species treated
Ms. Haigler stated there are treatment sheets for December, the first month of the Aquatic
Vegetation Control spraying contract. She stated the treatment was done along nine
miles of the canal, including Hardee Park canal, Collier canal, the South Collier canal,
and five of the main ponds, including the Garden Club Park pond, County pond,
Schumann Lake pond, Tulip pond, and the Schumann Historic Park pond. She explained
how she arrived at the figures on the PowerPoint presentation (SEE ATTACHED). Over
time, that gives staff a good idea of what plants are the biggest problems.
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ii. Chemical use summary
Ms. Haigler reviewed that there were 2.2 gallons of the adjuvants (additives) applied. Of
the herbicides that were applied, there were 4.8 gallons, for a total of 7 gallons of total
chemicals applied across the whole stormwater system. The cost was $1,438.00, which
includes all of the costs involved, including manhours, equipment used, applicators, and
the chemicals used. Mr. Benton emphasized that the figure that is shown includes
everything for the operation; it is not the cost for herbicides and adjuvants. Ms. Haigler
called for questions/comments from the Sub -Committee members.
Dr. Cox:
• Appreciated the clarification of the amounts used. He also inquired as to the Unit
Code —the FL --what that means. Ms. Haigler stated that stands for fluid ounces.
Mr. Benton explained that in the first column of the spreadsheet it shows what is
directed on the label, and the second two columns at the end of the chart show
what was actually applied. Ms. Haigler also stated that the main adjuvant used is
basically just a vegetable oil.
There being no further comments/questions from the Sub -Committee members, Mr.
Benton called for public input on this portion of the agenda.
Bob Stephen, Concha Drive, Sebastian. Questioned the amount of chemicals that
were used and what the cost was. Ms. Haigler pointed out what was on the PowerPoint
presentation, which showed that information. Regarding swimming, he asked if the City
is going to post any of those areas. There is a swimming hole, and he related that some
people would like to seethe swimming hole posted. He also asked W anybody is studying
the mixture of chemicals that is used. He is of the opinion that the City should be more
transparent with what is going to be used.
Diana Bolton, Sebastian. Regarding the swimming, she is at the stor mwater park often,
and there are dogs being walked there and children walking along the shoreline. Mr.
Benton emphasized that those people and pets are not supposed to be in the water. Ms.
Bolton stated it is a popular place to walk dogs. Mr. Benton stated it is a stonmwater
treatment area first and foremost. Ms. Bolton stated City Council voted on having signage
when spraying is done, and apparently that is not being done. Regarding the treatment
sheets, she stated glyphosate is listed. She asked why it is on the approved list when
other cities are banning this now. She also asked regarding the label signal word, which
chemical is the worst.
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Seeing no one else from the public who wished to speak, and hearing no one on Zoom
who wished to speak, Mr. Benton clarified some of the questions that were posed during
public input. On the chart that is on everyone's screen, under ponds and canals, he
emphasized and explained that those are fluid ounces, which equaled seven gallons total.
He then called for comments/questions from the Sub -Committee members.
Dr. Cox:
• To be clear, he referenced the 320 fluid ounces is mixed with water for spraying.
Mr. Benton said that when seven gallons total is mentioned, that is seven gallons
of concentrate. That does not include the water that has to be mixed with the
chemicals.
Hearing nothing further from the Sub -Committee members, Mr. Benton moved to the next
item on the agenda.
VIII Old Business
A. Applied Aquatics 2-Year Summary
I. Sites and species treated
ii. Chemical use summary
Ms. Haigler stated there is only a month of data available, as Aquatic Vegetation Control
(AVC)just began spraying. She explained the two-year data that is available from Applied
Aquatics (SEE ATTACHED), which covers 2018-19. She reviewed that, as staff sees the
problem areas grow, they can start looking at what is needed to address them. Besides
spraying, maybe one of these is the next one that needs a project. The Twin Ditches is
an example. There was a lot of work done there that will mitigate much of the need for
spraying. She explained the amount of the different products that were applied over the
two-year period. She pointed to the copper that was used. She spoke to Aquatic
Vegetation Control regarding copper, and they said they absolutely do not use copper for
the reason that it accumulates in the soil. For both years using Applied Aquatics, the
average cost for both years was $25,000.00. It is projected that the cost will be
approximately the same for the new contract. Mr. Benton called for comments/questions
from the Sub -Committee members.
Dr. Cox:
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• Regarding the copper question, he spoke to an employee of Applied Aquatics
regarding copper. That employee told Dr. Cox that they use copper, and there is
no problem with it.
Mr. Stadelman
• Asked if the public is notified when spraying is to be done. He questioned if there
could be a process instituted where certain people along the canals can be notified
when spraying is to be done. Mr. Griffin stated the City currently does not notify
the public when spraying is to be done along the canals. He stated that weather
conditions dictate whether spraying is going to be done. He will look into a way to
provide that notification, at the very least on the website. He will report back at the
next meeting on what he finds. Mr. Benton stated that signage is a requirement in
the City parks, and he suggested that is something that can be looked into in the
Stonnwater IPM Plan. He stated it will be more difficult regarding the stormwater
plan because of the distance being covered. Dr. Cox suggested that the IT staff
is able to generate the names and addresses of all the residents along the canals
and around the ponds. Then the City can send out a postcard that says there will
likely be spraying in a certain neighborhood, and then list the date(s). Ms. Haigler
stated that the applicators do not know until they get out there what they are going
to be spraying. Also, they do not know the weather conditions. Dr. Cox would like
to see the postcards contain information on how to contact the City staff in order
to get more information. He wants this information to come directly from the City
telling the residents who live around these canals and ponds what is planned to be
done and when.
Ms. Callaghan:
• Stated that from what she sees on the PowerPoint, she would like to see a little
more detailed information that can be included about application rates and whether
the products have been combined in some way, whether there has been greater
success or less success in how the treatment was applied. Ms. Haigler stated the
applicators do not have follow-up on their treatment sheets. These are
professionals in the field, and they make their decisions on a number of factors,
including the pH, water temperature, etc. Mr. Gruen added that the first report for
December from the new contractor has the details that are being requested. What
is being looked at right now is the work that Ms. Haigler has done to summarize
two years of work by the previous contractor. She has been highlighting that work.
The details that are being asked about will show up on the
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individual reports that will begotten from the new contractor. Ms. Callaghan stated
that will be helpful.
Mr. Benton stated that the City just received the December information from Aquatic
Vegetation Control this past Friday. That information will be going out to the Sub -
Committee members later today or tomorrow so that they can see the actual sheets that
come into the City with their report and their invoice. This information will also be posted
on the City's website. There being no further comments/questions from the Sub -
Committee members, Mr. Benton opened the meeting for public input on the Applied
Aquatics two-year summary.
Bob Stephen, Concha Drive, Sebastian. He would like to know how many gallons have
to be sprayed on the canals. The seven -gallon figure should be clarified. He inquired
about the swimming hole and the parks --what is being sprayed at those places. Mr. Griffin
stated that a total of 4.8 gallons of herbicide in the month of December for all stormwater
facilities was used. That amount is tracked along with the number of gallons of adjuvants.
Diana Bolton, Sebastian. Regarding spraying, she asked what the City is being charged
per month and how does that work out per year. She asked what the $1,438.50 per
month represents. She asked if that is just for the gallons used. Mr. Benton stated that
Ms. Haigler already explained what the cost was. The cost for the month of December
included manhours, equipment, herbicides, adjuvants, gas/diesel. Everything that could
possibly be needed is included in that $1,438.50 for December. Ms. Bolton asked if they
are spraying on an as -need basis, do they have incentives to spray less or do they have
incentives to spray more so they can charge more, and how do they know where it is
needed.
Mr. Benton stated the City stormwater staff is in communication with the contractor,
especially in regard to the December and January treatments on the areas that needed
the most treatment. Regarding the comment that was made regarding the City's parks,
any time the parks are treated now there is an IPM Plan that has to be followed in the
City's parks and in the park property. What happens in the waterways is under the
Stormwater Department's purview. It is Mr. Benton's responsibility to ensure that staff is
following the parks IPM Plan. Notice is posted in the parks when spraying is done in the
parks. Having been asked about Hardee Park not being posted, Mr. Benton stated that
the stormwater canal is not considered in the Parks and Properties IPM Plan.
There being no further comments/discussion on this agenda item, Mr. Benton moved to
the next item on the agenda.
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IX. Sub -Committee Member Matters
Dr. Cox:
Reviewed that at the last meeting he inquired whether there could be a
representative from AVC come and answer questions about what they are doing.
Instead of that, Mr. Griffin suggested Dr. Cox give him the questions that he has
about the AVC contract. Dr. Cox put together a set of questions which he gave to
Mr. Griffin, Mr. Benton, and Ms. Haigler. The one question that Dr. Cox deems
most important is regarding the conversation he had with one of the contractor's
applicators in December. He was told at that time that AVC's motto is "control and
maintain." Dr. Cox is asking for a clear definition of what is meant by control and
maintain when it comes to doing their work. He added that there is a mixture of
invasive species growing on the banks behind his house. When that area is
sprayed, the vegetation turns to a brown mush and then very quickly comes back.
If the idea of control and maintain is to wipe out invasives and hope that the native
plants will come back, he does not believe that will happen. He is of the opinion
that there has got to be a better way to deal with this other than coming back and
spraying with chemicals. Mr. Griffin replied that he will spend some more time
responding to Dr. Cox regarding those three questions. He will copy Mr. Benton
and Ms. Haigler on that.
X. Staff Matters — None
XI. Items for Next Aaenda
A. Review new sections of Plan for approval
Mr. Benton said staff will continue to make adjustments on the spreadsheet. He will ask
Sub -Committee members to look at the chemical spreadsheet that was passed out at this
meeting and to come back at the next meeting with comments/questions
XII. Adjournment
There being no further business, �,Mr. Benton adjourned the meeting at 3:15 p.m.
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ACTIVE
LABELED
ACTIVE INGREDIENT
ACTION
TRADE NAME
EPA REG. #
RESISTANCE
INGREDIEN
SIGNAL
EIQ
MGT. GROUP
T(S)
WORD
Alkanolamide
adjuvant
Cohere
NA
NA
90.007
warning
NA
methelated seed oil
adjuvant
Alligare MSO 1
NA
NA
100.00%
caution
30.9
polyacrylamide
adjuvant
Accuracy
NA
NA
30%
warning
NA
Polycontrol 2
D-limonene
adjuvant
Kammo Plus
NA
NA
100%
warning
NA
polyoxlkane ethers
adjuvant
Induce
NA
NA
90%
warning
NA
Bispyribac
herbicide
Tradewind (powder)
59639-165
2
80%
caution
11.47
Carfentrazone
herbicide
Stingray
279-3279-67690
14
21.3%
caution
20.18
Speedzone
2217-833
28.6%
Copper
herbicide,
copper sulfate
56576-1
NA
99%
danger
69.83
algaecide
(crystals)
Diquat
herbicide
Tribune
100-1390
22
37.307
acute
39.2
Reward
100-1091
Endothall
hebicide
Aquathol
70506-176
Unknown
40.307o
danger
25.22
Florpyrauxifen
herbicide
ProcellaCOR SC
67690-79
4
26.507o
caution
NA
Clipper
Clipper
Flumioxazin
herbicide
Schooner
14
caution
23.97
Semera (granule)
59639-120-91234
51%
Fluridone
herbicide
Avast
67690-30
12
41.7
caution
8.67
Glyphosote
herbicide
Roundup Custom
9
53.807o
caution
15.33
AquaNeat
228-365
Imazamox
herbicide
Clearcast
241-437-67690
2
12.1057o
caution
19.52
Imazapyr
herbicide
PolarisAQ
241-426-228
2
28.707
caution
22.3
Penoxsulam
herbicide
Galleon SC
67690-47
2
21.707
caution
18.72
Peroxides
algaecide
GreenCleenPRO
70299-15
Unclassified
85%
danger
16
Sethoxydim
herbicide
Segment
7969-88
1
13%
caution
20.89
Topramezone
herbicide
Oasis
7969-339-67690
27
29.707
caution
27.17
Triclopyr
herbicide
Garlon 3A
62719-37
4
44.40%
danger
11
Weedar 64 (liquid)
71368-1
46%
20.67
2, 4-D
herbicide
4
Rugged (liquid)
1381-247
38.4%
danger
16.67
APPLICATION
RATE LBS PER
ACRE
200-400 ppb
6-12 oz/acre
8-15ppb
FIELD USE EIQ
A
TARGET CLASS
TARGET SPECIES
spreader, sticker
NA
NA
surfactant
NA
NA
deposition & drift
NA
NA
retardant
surfactant
NA
NA
wetter, spreader
NA
NA
systemic, selective
submersed, floating
Hydrilla
contact, selective
emergent, floating
Primrose, Water Lettuce,Hyacinth
contact, non -selective
submersed
algae
contact, non -selective
submersed, emergent
hyacinth, water lettuce,
floating
salvinia, mosquito fern
contact/systemic, non-
submersed
hydrilla, filementous algae
selective
systemic, non -selective
submersed, emergent,
hydrilla, hyacinth,
floating
primrose, watermilfoil
algal mats, hydrilla,
contact, non -selective
submersed, emergent,
cabomba, water lettuce,
floating
duckweed, salvinia,
spatterdock, water lilly
systemic, non -selective
submersed
hydrilla, duckweed
systemic, non -selective
emergent, floating
grasses, cattail, primrose,
tussocks
systemic, selective
submersed, emergent,
cattail, wild taro, hyacinth
floating
systemic, non -selective
emergent
tussocks, cattail, torpedo -
grass, rush, melaleuca
systemic
emergent, floating,
hydrilla, hyacinth
submersed
contact, non -selective
submersed, algae
planktonic algae, esp.
blue-green
systemic, selective
emergent
grasses
systemic
submersed
hydrilla, hyacinth
brazilian pepper,
systemic
submersed, emergent
broadleaf, hyacinch,
water milfoil
systemic, selective
submersed, emergent,
milfoil, hyacinth
floating
LOCAL USE?
COST (only includes cost
of product)
COST RATING/
1,000 ft' (only includes cost of
product)