HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-26-2021 PR MinutesPARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
JULY 26. 2021
Call to Order -- Chairperson Webster called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
Pledae of Alleaiance was recited by all.
III. Roll Call
Present
Ms. White (Zoom)
Mr. Renzi
Ms. Webster
Ms. Drumheller (a)
Mr. Denise
Mr. Mauro (a)
Mr. Agudelo -- Late Arrival
Also Present
Mr. Brian Benton, Leisure Services Director
Mr. Ken Killgore, Administrative Services Director/CFO
Mr. Gary Vicars, MIS Technical Analyst
Ms. Janet Graham, Technical Writer (Zoom)
IV. Meetina Chair Makes Announcements — None
V. Aaenda Modifications — None
VI. Aooroval of Minutes — June 28. 2021
Ms. Webster asked if there were any changes or additions to the Minutes of June 28,
2021 as presented. Mr. Mauro asked for a correction on Page 5, the first paragraph under
Section II. In the second line where it reads "Mr. Renzi commented...," it should be "Mr.
Mauro commented..." There being no other corrections, Ms. Webster called for a motion.
A motion approving the Minutes of June 28, 2021 with the above correction was made by
Ms. Drumheller, seconded by Mr. Renzi, and approved unanimously via voice vole.
VII. Unfinished Business
A. Garden Park Improvements Committee Discussion
Mr. Benton reviewed that this Committee has discussed in the past improvements to
Garden Club Park. He stated that a new fountain has been installed. The walking trail
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on the front portion of the park has been worked on. Some trees and non-native
vegetation have been identified, and they are going to be eliminated and/or moved as
staff goes through the park. At the last meeting there was a question about a survey.
The survey has been completed, which identifies all the property lines throughout the
entire park. It includes the back portion, which is the eastern portion behind the lake.
That was completed a couple weeks ago. He put a Power Point presentation on the
monitor (SEE ATTACHED) which shows some photographs that he has taken at the park.
Those photographs show some areas of concern. It has been mentioned by members of
the Committee several times during previous discussions extending the walking trail all
the way around the pond. With that, there are some concerns that would have to be
looked at such as budgeting for some items. Now that we have the survey complete, staff
knows exactly where those points are where some work would have to be done in order
to extend the walking trail. He commented that he has heard from one resident who has
concerns about the walking trail extending around the east side of the park. The concern
was regarding safety. If the walking trail Is extended, it will give the public access to the
back portion, which is close to neighbors' properties
Mr. Benton went through each photograph on the monitor and described what each
shows, his concerns regarding those areas, and what would need to be done to address
those areas of concern. Mr. Benton added that we are still in the preliminary stages for
this project, and it is going to come down to the direction that this Committee gives staff.
If you want staff to continue to look at costs now that we have the survey, staff can do a
more detailed assessment of the costs for the ideas this Committee has for the park. He
asked for the Committee members to make comments and/or ask questions regarding
this project.
Mr. Renzi
Asked if Mr. Benton knows what the size of the entire park area is. Mr. Benton
said he will get that information and send it out to all the Committee members.
Regarding doing a walking trail completely around the pond, he asked if a
particular material would be used, or would the area just be cleared. Mr. Benton
said if the direction from this Committee is for him to look into the walking trail, he
will look at numerous options. There are millings, which is currently in the front
portion, coquina rock, or it could just be kept more natural. He added that if this
Committee decides to go ahead with a walking trail, a split -rail -type fencing will
have to be installed all the way around the perimeter of the park, just to Identify
the property line. Those are all costs that would be brought back to the Committee
members once he gels direction on how they want to proceed. He would give the
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Committee numerous options for a walking trail.
• Asked if it has been thought about what would be done with the gazebo. Mr.
Benton said the gazebo was pressure cleaned, and it is not in bad shape
presently. Staff can go back and clean it up a bit more, but the gazebo would stay
where it is.
Ms. Drumheller:
• Regarding the walking trail, she asked what the length of the walking trail would
be if it goes all the way around the pond. Mr. Benton said that when he spoke with
the people at the surveying company, they said that whenever we have a
preliminary design of where we want 0le trail to go, they would get those figures
for us included with their survey, and they would provide that information free of
charge.
• Staled she thinks it is important for the history of that park to make sure that the
gazebo is kept. She related that inside that gazebo there are some signatures of
people who donated funds. She thinks that historically that has a lot of
significance.
Ms. While:
• Reviewed that this Committee has spoken often in the past about how to get
people to use our parks. It seems that there are only a few of the parks being used
regularly. She personally would like to see this park being utilized, as it is a very
nice piece of property. She would like to go ahead and pursue getting a walking
trail around the pond.
(At this point Mr. Agudelo joined the meeting.)
Mr. Denise:
• Likes the idea of keeping the park as natural as possible. He also likes the idea of
putting a fence around the park property so as to respect the private properties
that abut portions of the park.
Mr. Agudelo:
• Regarding the walking trail, he thinks that is a great idea. He thinks that one of the
best features of all of the City parks is their proximity to the homes. This is an
interesting subject, and it is something that this Committee should think about. He
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is aware that residents do not like their peace disturbed. He thinks that a lot of
residents of Sebastian do not like the influx of new people. He also slated that the
influx of new people is helping the City's economy locally. He would like the City
parks to be kept from being vandalized and damaged. He referred to the skate
park and how its use has grown. He is adamant that this Committee should
attempt to make sure that we are not offending anyone who lives around the
Garden Club Park as well as the other parks. He would like to postpone any action
on this item until more public input can be obtained.
Ms. Webster
• She stated that on the east side of the park the boundary line is pretty close to the
homes back there, so she has concerns regarding the location of the trail and how
close it is to those homes.
• If the path is too close to the water, there is the concern about alligators being in
the water. She likes the idea of a walking trail, but she thinks there has to be
concern for the environment.
After extended discussion, Mr. Benton emphasized that he is looking for direction from
the Committee as to whether they want to move forward with the idea of a walking trail
for Garden Club Park. At this point, Ms. Webster called on anyone from the public who
wished to speak on this matter.
Mr. Tallant, Sebastian spoke regarding a walking trail around the pond at Garden Club
Park. He described where his house is in relation to the park and mentioned some of his
neighbors and how close their homes are. He states it is very dark in the area in the back
of the park. There are senior citizens who live in some of those homes, and anyone having
access to that area becomes a concern for those senior citizens' safety.
Mr. Benton asked for a consensus from the Committee as to whether they want him to
investigate the costs and designs of what would be reasonable to install a walking trail in
Garden Club Park. He added that, if this Committee has a consensus that they want to
gel pricing, he and his staff will get that information, come back to the Committee, and
then we can send out notices to the people who live in that area as to when the meeting
is going to be. To solicit input before you even have answers, whenever the public comes
to the meeting they will ask questions, and if you do not have any answers, you have
done the public a disservice because you are not going to have the answers for them.
Ms. Webster said she thinks that is what all the Committee members would like to see.
She asked for a consensus from the Committee that what they want to have happen is to
have Mr. Benton get some prices. All Committee members agreed. Mr. Benton staled
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he will gel some cost estimates so that there is information on the acreage, how far the
walking path is going to be, and where the potential rough drawing of a walking path
would take it.
VIII. Public Input -- None
IX. New Business
A. Select a Chairman and Vice -Chairman and adopt rules of procedure
Ms. Webster opened the floor for Committee members to nominate someone for the
position of Chairperson. Mr. Mauro, Mr. Danise, and Mr. Agudelo nominated Ms. Webster
for Chairperson. Ms. Webster closed the floor for nominations, and she accepted the
position. Ms. Webster called for nominations for Vice -Chairperson. Mr. Agudelo
nominated Ms. Drumheller for the position of Vice -Chairperson. Mr. Benton stated that,
since Ms. Drumheller is an alternate, as well as Mr. Mauro, they are not eligible for
Chairperson or Vice -Chairperson positions. Mr. Agudelo and Ms. Webster nominated Mr.
Denise, and Mr. Mauro nominated Ms. White. Ms. White declined the nomination. Mr.
Denise is willing to accept the nomination. Ms. Webster is now the Chairperson, and Mr.
Denise is now the Vice -Chairperson.
Ms. Webster called for a motion adopting the Rules of Procedure. A motion adopting the
Rules of Procedure as presented was made by Mr. Renzi, seconded by Mr. Danise, and
the motion was adopted unanimously via voice vote.
B. FY22 Capital Improvement Projects related to the use of Recreation Impact
Fees
Mr. Benton stated that Mr. Ken Killgore, CFO for the City, is present to answer questions
regarding these items or the budget. Mr. Benton emphasized that this is all preliminary.
It comes before this Committee, and if they agree to it, it will go to City Council. So
anything can be removed before City Council gives final approval in September. He
reviewed the Capital Outlay Schedules and the document delineating which parks are in
which zones (SEE ATTACHED). He called specific attention to the following:
• The last step of the Barber Street Baseball Complex renovations. The
baseball backstop project is the last phase of the baseball complex renovations.
The $75,000.00 figure would be for replacing all four backstops, and that would
complete the renovation of the baseball fields at that Complex.
• Park Identification Signage: This gets us into the last year of replacing all of the
City's park signage. There are just a few left to go, and this final $30,000.00 will
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complete that project. At that point, all of the signs within all of the parks will have
been replaced with the new signage that was approved.
Playground Improvements: Included in this fiscal year 21-22 are Easy Street
and Filbert Park. He called attention to the fact that this number will increase over
this current fiscal year. That is due to what staff are finding with the playground
companies. This year staff is going to have to go in and remove the old playground
equipment themselves. It also gives them the ability to include more accessible
components within the City's playgrounds. It was discussed by this Committee
sometime ago that one of the ideas was to increase the accessible components
and the inclusive components in all of the City's playgrounds for the entire
community, and this additional money will allow staff to do that to ensure that we
are able to accommodate everyone in the City's playgrounds. That figure is
$100,000.00 for next fiscal year. There was discussion among the Committee
members and Mr. Benton and Mr. Killgore, who explained how the funds are
allocated to the parks in different zones and how the recreational impact fees are
set.
Standard Park Improvements: These are standard park improvements that are
allocated for this Committee to be used similar to how we used funds this fiscal
year to purchase the new fountain at Garden Club Park. This is for unbudgeted
items that are park improvements recommended by the Committee throughout the
year.
Mr. Killgore added that Mr. Benton is one of the best department heads he has seen as
far as putting together his data and materials. It makes it a pleasure to work with him.
There being no further discussion, Ms. Webster called for a motion. A motion
recommending that the budget that has been recommended out of recreation impact fees
be presented to City Council was made by Mr. Danlse, seconded by Ms. Drumheller, and
approved unanimously via voice vole.
(Because of difficulty with Ms. While's audio, Mr. Benton called her by phone and placed
his phone on speaker so that her audio would be clearer.)
C. Committee member discussion and recommendation to City Council on
playground designs for George Street Park and Blossom Park
Mr. Benton reviewed that George Street Park had been budgeted for last year to have
the replacements done. It was pushed it forward to this year. It was scheduled to be
George Street and Filbert Street. However, due to safety concerns at Blossom Park, that
playground has been moved up to this fiscal year and Filbert Park out to next fiscal year.
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So this year $70,000.00 has been budgeted to replace the playground structures at
George Street and Blossom Park. Based on cooperative pricing and piggyback pricing,
three playground companies have provided cost estimates to install playground
equipment at those two parks. Basically, all of these came in under or at budget, and
now it is this Committee's decision as to what design the members prefer.
There was extended discussion among the Committee members regarding the
playground equipment designs that were attached to the agenda packet (SEE
ATTACHED). After discussion, Mr. Benton suggested that this item be tabled and
brought back in August.
Ms. Drumheller suggested that at the next meeting, photos from the parks be put on the
overhead screen in order to visualize them. It really is a lot to try to get through, and she
suggests that if the Committee is able to visualize the parks, it might be easier to discuss
them. There was discussion regarding having a special meeting, after which it was the
consensus that this item be tabled until the August meeting.
X. Staff Matters
A. Current Project(s) Update
Mr. Benton reviewed the only things that are open are
Yacht Club Seawall — It is in permitting with DEP. He does not know how long that will
take. It typically takes two to three months. So staff is in a slow pattern with that project.
Bike Racks — Some have been installed at Riverview Park. Staff is in the process of
installing them throughout the City within the parks.
Dugouts — The final two dugouts are a project that he is anxious to gel finished. Lumber
prices are beginning to decline, so staff is in a holding pattern presently with that project.
The 6 x 6 posts that are needed for each dugout —the price for each one dropped about
$25.00 last week. So he is going to wait and see if lumber continues to come down.
Park Signage — He received a notice today from the contractor. They are running into
delays on getting some materials. So the next big installation will be the gateway signs,
the "Welcome to Sebastian" signs that are on US 1, CR 512, Barber Street, and 661h
Avenue. He is hoping to have them installed sometime in August.
Splash Pad — He pointed out that on August W the kids go back to school, and that is
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the date staff is going to have to shut the splash pad down. He said that tomorrow noticing
the public will begin. The public will be advised that it is going to be shut down indefinitely
starting August 100. Water is being lost somewhere, and staff has been unable to locate
where it is happening. So staff are going to go in and do a substantial project to repipe
the drainage from the splash pad. The decision was made to not begin the project until
school starts back. Staff will try to get it done as quickly as possible.
Ms. Drumheller inquired regarding the electronic sign at Riverview Park. Mr. Benton said
that was approved. The contractor has the purchase order. It is in their standard build
setup where it is going to take two to three months before that is Installed —that one and
the one here at City Hall.
XI. Board or Committee Member Matters
Ms. Drumheller said she has been to the dog park a couple times, and the grass still looks
great. She thought the renovation went really well, and the people seem very happy to
have their dogs not be covered in dirt every time they go out of the large dog area.
Mr. Agudelo spoke about when Michael Abl, Jr. passed away. That year, one of the fields
that the league played on at Barber Street was named Michael Abt, Jr. Field. That was
the same year that on those same fields with his little brother, Mel, a district championship
was won. He was wondering what it would take to name that portion of the entire baseball
complex after either Mel or Michael or both, that it would be a good thing for the
community.
Ms. Webster thanked everyone for their trust in electing her as Chairperson for the next
year.
XII. Items for the Next Acenda and Date: August 23. 2021
XIII. Adiourn
There being no further
further business, Ms. Webster adjourned the meeting at 7:25 p.m.
By: V`I Date-
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