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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-14-2022 Union Minutes w/attachmentCITY OF SEBASTIAN PBA UNION WAGE NEGOTIATIONS MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING JUNE 14, 2022 Present: Al Boettjer, Staff Representative, Coastal Florida PBA/PEA Union Representative, 810 Fentress Court, Daytona Beach, FL 32117 Paul Carlisle, City Manager, City of Sebastian Ken Killgore, Administrative Services Director/CFO, City of Sebastian Cynthia Watson, Human Services Director, City of Sebastian Ken McDonough, PBA Union Representative Matt Radock, PBA Union Representative Janet Graham, Technical Writer Mr. Boettjer called the meeting to order at 8:40 a.m. and asked that everyone present identify themselves. Mr. Boettjer stated that there will be negotiations for a new three-year contract this year, and he asked Mr. Carlisle for his preliminary input. Mr. Carlisle explained that the reason he asked for this meeting ahead of what the City would normally do is essentially because the union members had suggested in a previous meeting that they get in on the City's budget process early on. Something that has been stated in the past is that there are never early meetings/negotiations, and by the time the negotiations begin, the City's new budget is already in place. He stated that the main purpose of this meeting is to talk about what the union representatives want to discuss during negotiations as far as salaries, benefits, and what the union wants to see implemented in the budget. So he decided to call for this meeting in June. The comp study has been done so that comparisons can be made between Sebastian and its peer group. Thus, the union can present to him a list of things that it would like to be considered in the budget and the things that need to be discussed. He called on input from the union representatives. Detective McDonough agreed that this is a good idea. Mr. Carlisle asked for the union representatives' thoughts. He stated that the City staff has drawn up some suggestions based on the benefit side. They know what the comp study of the peer group has said, and his staff has drawn up differences between what the City's benefit package is compared to what the peer group is. His staffs job is to make sure that the proposed package is fair to the taxpayers of the City as well as the union members. He further stated that insurance is not on the table because that is not in the negotiations for the contract. Detective McDonough stated that when benefits are mentioned by the City, he suggested that the union members/representatives assume that would refer to insurance. He stated that in the past it has been stated in other contracts that when insurance benefits and pay are referred to, his group has been told that they cannot have both. Mr. Carlisle explained PAGE 2 that when comparing Sebastian's benefits to other communities' benefits in the peer group, there are things that Sebastian pays that others do not pay, and those things should be discussed. But that does not refer to insurance. Officer Radock asked if his group could find out what percentage of insurance is paid by the employees. Mr. Carlisle explained that as an individual it is $25.00 and the City pays the rest, which is significantly higher than the $25.00. Ms. Watson stated that the City is paying 96% of an employee's insurance premium. The grand total for an individual's insurance is $575.61. For the employee's spouse the City pays 77%, and the grand total for an employee's spouse is $1,369.96. For the employee's children the City pays 81%. The grand total for them Is $1,105.17. For family coverage the City pays 73%, and the total is $1,841.96. The employee does not pay anything for dental. For dental, the base plan is $32.22. Employee's spouse is $65.04, and the City pays 75% of that. Employee children is $89.33, and the City pays 68% of that. The employee family plan is $122.15, and the City pays 63%. Vision is $3.78 for an employee. Detective McDonough referred to a document provided by the City titled "Items of Negotiation," and asked if those are the items that the City wants to discuss (SEE ATTACHED). Mr. Carlisle said these are the items the City wanted to provide to the union representatives to be taken back to the union members to discuss, as the City is looking to put in a pay scale that is comparative to its peer group based on the study and based on what that peer group pays and what Sebastian pays. He would like to know what the union members are willing to negotiate out to compensate for the additional pay. He emphasized that it is not about just the pay scale; it is about all of the dollars the City has to pay which includes benefits other than the pay scale. There was extended discussion among the union representatives and City staff regarding pay vs. other benefits provided by the City. One item that Detective McDonough emphasized is the lack of applicants for police officer positions in Sebastian. He stated presently there are no applicants for police officer positions and only one applicant for dispatcher positions. Mr. Carlisle stated the City is offering the base plan set forth on the salary study and is attempting to get everyone within that minimum and within those ranges. Then he and his staff will look at some of the other benefits that the City provides and how to negotiate those items. Detective McDonough addressed the compression factor that occurs when salaries are adjusted. Mr. Carlisle said that the compression factor has to be looked at, but that will be negotiated in the upcoming meetings, and he gave examples of everything that has to be looked at when addressing compression. There was extended discussion among the union representatives and the City staff on the compression factor. Detective McDonough stated that the union representatives have some items in addition to what is listed on the survey. Mr. Carlisle said that the City is open to discussion and asked that the union members meet and come back to the City with some options. PAGE 3 Detective McDonough stated that the union members will work on that. Mr. Carlisle stated that at the next session they will address each line in the present contract. Mr. Boettjer asked if Mr. Carlisle has a date in mind for the next session. Mr. Carlisle said he does not yet, and Ms. Watson will get back to Mr. Boettjer to schedule the next meeting date. The meeting was concluded at 9:46 a.m. THE COASTAL FLORIDA POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS 2022-2025 June 14, 2022 ITEMS OF NEGOTIATION 1. Compensation Study 2. Vacation — Payout upon separation 3. Sick Time — Payout upon separation 4. Personal Days 5. Education/Certifications 6. Incentives for Education/Certifications 7. Uniform Cleaning 8. Safety Shoes Items Market Peers (Other Agencies) Do Not Pay 1. Sick Time — No pay out 2. Personal Day — No days or 1 day 3. Certification Pay 4. Training Pay S. On -Call Pay 6. Call out/on call 50/50