HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-29-2022 PR MinutesPARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 29, 2022
I. Call to Order — Acting Chairwoman Webster called the meeting to order at 6:00
p.m.
It. Pledoe of Allegiance was recited by all.
III. Roll Call
Present
Ms. White (Zoom) Mr. Renzi
Mr. Mauro Ms. Drumheller
Mr. Danlse Mr. Agudelo
Ms. Webster
Also Present
Mr. Brian Benton, Leisure Services Director
Mr. Joseph Perez, AV Technical Assistant
Ms. Janet Graham, Technical Writer
IV. Announcements and Agenda Modifications — None
V. ADoroval of Minutes — Meeting Minutes from July 25, 2022
Ms. Webster asked if all the Committee members have had a chance to review the
Minutes from July 25, 2022. All indicated they had. Ms. Webster called for a motion. A
motion approving the Minutes of July 25, 2022 as presented was made by Ms.
Drumheller, seconded by Mr. Renzi, and approved unanimously via voice vote.
VI. Public Inout — None
VII. Unfinished Business
A. Current Project(s) Update
Mr. Benton gave updates on active projects as follows:
ADA Parking Spaces and Sidewalks — The current plan is to have them installed next
Thursday at Blossom Park. After that, staff will proceed to George Street during the
coming weeks after Blossom Park has been completed. Those are part of the park
improvements that were dedicated from this Committee for staff to spend funds for those
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Improvements. Also, with the work at Blossom the gate size will be increased from three
feet to five feet.
Easy Street and Filbert Street Park Playgrounds — Mr. Benton reviewed that this year
also budgeted were Easy Street and Filbert Street playgrounds. He has met on site with
one of the City's vendors providing playgrounds. He will be working to get two additional
estimates from playground companies. He plans to bring that Information to this
Committee at the September meeting. At that time, the Committee will be able to review
the designs and the cost estimates for those two playgrounds.
Swings and Benches Park Across from Harbor Lights Motel — The funds for that
work will betaken from Leisure Services' budget going into the next fiscal year. He stated
that across the street, the Harbor Lights Motel will be demolished beginning next week,
and you will see some activity at that site. On the east side of Indian River Drive is where
the Swings and Benches Park will be located next year. He will bring that design to this
Committee after October to get input on how It is planned to lay out the swings and the
benches as well as some memorial brick pavers that will be installed at that site as well.
Ms. White asked how many swings are being considered. Mr. Benton said staff still has
to finalize the drawings. Currently he estimates three swings and five or six benches
depending on the layout with the swings. These swings will be similar to porch swings.
They may not be wooden, but that is the thought process for this project. Ms. Webster
suggested that staff check on Tybee Island which has some on the ocean that are
spectacular. Mr. Benton said he will look Into that.
Sign Stating No Animals are Allowed on one of the Docks at the Riverfront — Mr.
Benton reviewed that at a prior meeting Mr. Danise had brought up a concern he has
regarding a sign stating that no animals are allowed on one of the docks down at the
riverfront area. Mr. Benton stated that a sign has been installed. He added that the
Maintenance Department is somewhat understaffed currently, but he feels that the staff
Is doing a phenomenal job in keeping up with the current projects, and the Committee will
be presented with some new projects to review in the near future. He then called for
questions/comments from the Committee members.
Mr. Mauro:
• Drew attention to the welcome signs that are placed as one enters Indian River
County. Mr. Benton stated the County would have installed those. The City has
Its Welcome to Sebastian sign currently installed on CR 512 in front of the Publix
Plaza eastbound. Regarding the US 1 north and south signs, at the City Council
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meeting last week, the Community Aesthetic Feature Agreement with Florida
Department of Transportation was approved. So now the installation company has
approval from the City to install the signs on the medians. He suggested that those
signs should be installed in the coming weeks.
Ms. White:
Regarding the motel that is being torn down on Indian River Drive, she asked If
there has been any discussion about perhaps selling It for tax income, or would it
be for green space eventually. Mr. Benton stated that currently there have not
been any discussions as to the direction from Council.
B. Committee Member Park Update
Mr. Benton reviewed that at the last meeting there was some concern from some of the
Committee members that each member had been assigned specific park(s), and they
would go out and look at the parks. However, at the end of that meeting, the chance for
committee members to provide feedback and input on their parks, in the future that will
be included in the "Unfinished Business" item on the agenda. When that discussion was
had, It was determined by him that this Committee should institute under "Unfinished
Business" a sort of rolling "Unfinished Business" Item to provide all the Committee
members an opportunity to give updates, positive and negative, as to what is going on
within the parks that each Committee member had been allocated and things that those
members would like to see come back before this Committee. Ms. Webster called on
remarks from the Committee members.
Mr. Denise stated that when he sees things that need to be addressed, he contacts Mr.
Benton immediately. He also said that he thinks the Leisure Services Department is doing
a fantastic job.
Mr. Renzi asked whatever happened with the gentlemen who wanted to permit boat
launch areas across from Riverview Park. Mr. Benton reviewed that he gave one of the
gentlemen the City's recommendation —that the City was not going to move forward with
allowing access there. He has heard nothing further from those gentlemen.
Mr. Agudelo stated that, as far as the parks that he has been around and seen lately,
Hardee Park looks great, and Barber Street looks great. The dugouts are a very positive
addition to the park.
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Ms. Webster brought up the community Back -to -School event that was held at Barber
Street. It was a really good event. Mr. Benton said the Police Department handled that,
and his staff offered any assistance that was needed. But the Police Department handled
that completely through the COPE unit. They do a fantastic job with those events. The
Police Department will work with his department when the Halloween event is held, and
the Police Department does a fantastic job with those community events that they put on.
C. Community Member Recognition Program
Mr. Benton reviewed that staff has been working on this item. Included in the Committee's
packet for this evening is the final nomination form. It Is based on feedback from prior
meetings. The deadline that he put in for applications Is going to be October 14". That
will give the selection committee two weeks to look at choosing someone to bring before
this Committee at the end of October. He suggested that the staff/selection committee
will have the selection ready and have it come before this Committee as a
recommendation at the meeting the end of October. Then in November the individual
chosen could be brought before this Committee and recognized. It would be formally
announced at that time, and then that person would be able to be showcased in the
Christmas parade. He suggested that a golf cart be provided by the City to showcase the
individual at the parade unless someone has a convertible or something of that nature
that could be used. Ms. White asked if a committee has been chosen to do the judging.
Mr. Benton reviewed that this had been discussed. The committee will include Mr.
Benton, a member of his staff, and whoever this Committee wants to have represent it on
that selection group. There can only be one person because of the Sunshine Laws. He
was also going to reach out to one of the community organizations to get someone. He
would like to get this put in motion this year if possible. Ms. Webster suggested that
someone from the Shrimp Fest might be nominated. Mr. Benton said that can happen.
He would like to get someone from the youth organizations, be it football, baseball, etc.
He will try to get as many as possible on the selection committee. However, it could come
down to someone on the selection committee also having been nominated. If that person
is chosen as a person nominated for the award, then they will not be permitted to be on
the selection committee, and Mr. Benton will have to get someone else. Ms. White asked
how the application and nominating procedure will be shared to the community. Mr.
Benton said that, once this Is approved with this Committee, staff will make City Council
aware of it. But his staff will disseminate it to the community organizations via the City's
Facebook page, the City's webslte, Little League and Tackle Football organizations and
any other groups that this Committee knows of. He stated that the Senior Center and Art
Club will be involved with It as well as the schools. Ms. Drumheller asked if this application
that is included in the Committee's packet is going to be available online for download,
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and will people be able to fill it out and upload it. Mr. Benton said it will be put into a
fellable format so that, if they want to submit it online, they will be able to do that. If they
want to print it off and fill it in that way and bring it in to City Hail, they will be able to. Ms.
White said she thinks the form is easy to read and easy to fill out. She is wondering if,
since it says, "Parks and Recreation Nomination Volunteer of the Year Nomination Form,"
people might think that it is only people who volunteer for Parks and Recreation activities
who are eligible to be nominated. Mr. Denise opined that the Parks and Recreation
Department should stay within the framework of who it is. He thinks the form looks good.
Mr. Benton spoke regarding Ms. White's comment. He suggested that when it is
advertised to the public, whether it be via social media, etc., it can be emphasized that it
Is a community event and that it does not necessarily need to be a City -run event. It is
City sponsored and will take place within the City and benefit the City's residents. He
suggested phrasing it that way in the Initial email with social media, etc. He stated this
Committee can either decide tonight or come back in September and select who from this
Committee will be designated as the representative on the selection committee. Ms.
Webster stated that Mr. Denise is the one who brought it to this Committee, and she
would like to ask that Mr. Denise be on the selection committee. It was the consensus of
the Committee members that Mr. Danise be on the selection committee. Mr. Benton
stated that there will be discussion going forward as to the logistics for this program. Ms.
Webster suggested that maybe one of the businesses in town would donate a gift card or
something of that nature. Ms. Drumheller asked that a link to the fillable form be sent out
to the Committee members so that she can send It to some of the community not -for -
profits that she works with. Mr. Benton said he would do that.
A. Discussion on Disc/Fdsbee Golf (Requested by Ms. Drumheller)
Ms. Drumheller stated that she has had some people approach her about disc golf
recently. At the last meeting, Mr. Denise talked about Hobart Park and its disc golf course.
She went and talked to someone at that park, and she described how it is set up there
and that discs can actually be thrown where people are playing and eating. There is a
very active Treasure Coast Disc Golf community, and there are lots of folks in Sebastian
who are active in this. She went to their Facebook page and looked at their site and
looked at where people were from and what they were saying. She also put up something
on the Sebastian site, and within the first day she had 31 people comment in support of
this sport. She does think that there is some park space available for this type of project.
She suggested Filbert as one of these parks. She also had comments from several
people asking for shuffleboard and more pickleball. She did not know that there had been
discussion in years past, and she would like to learn about that. She suggested
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that It would be reasonable to put one of these courts in. She passed out the Facebook
Treasure Coast Disc Golf Club Information. She did visit two of the parks in the
surrounding communities. She opined that there would be lots of interest among the
community regarding this subject. Ms. Webster recalled some of what was discussed
several years ago. She does not know what happened to that suggestion. Ms. White
reviewed what she remembered It being discussed in the past. She also suggested
Filbert Park as a good place for the disc golf. Ms. Drumheller stated that she thinks there
are people who will come to a meeting where this matter Is on the agenda. There was
discussion among several Committee members about this subject. It was the consensus
of the Committee that this matter be further investigated. Mr. Benton said he did some
research regarding previous discussions at City Council meetings and Parks and
Recreation meetings. In the past, the discussion was based on three properties:
Schumann Lake Park, which received a lot of public Input against doing anything on that
property because it is a nicely preserved area. The second area that was discussed
minimally was Filbert Park. There were some concerns regarding the size of that park.
From what he found, It seems that there are five acres needed to adequately spread it
out and have some hazards or trees, etc., so that it Is not a straight throw of a frisbee right
to a hole. There was also concern regarding gopher tortoises and the houses surrounding
Filbert Street Park. There is also a walking trail there for people in the community. The
third option was Stormwater Park. St. John's Water Management said no to that activity
within that property. What he will do If the Committee desires is to delve further Into this
subject and what exactly is needed for a nine -hole course and see if the City has the area
to do that. Once we look at opening some of the areas within the City to other activities,
there has to be parking provided. He stated that a member of the public suggested that
there needs to be a minimum of five acres for nine holes, and it would need parking and
restrooms. Mr. Benton does not believe that restrooms would be needed. Ms. White
favors Filbert Park being considered.
Mr. Renzi stated that he is not familiar with disc golf, and he would like to do some
research on it before the Committee goes forward on it. He does not know how the game
is played. Ms. Webster said right now there needs to be only research done. Mr. Denise
described how the game is played. Ms. Drumheller stated that Hobart Park has an 18-
hole course, so that would be a good place to go and see how the course is set up and
how the game Is played. She also recommended going online and entering "disc golf,'
and all sorts of videos and information will come up. Mr. Mauro asked if disc golf has
par holes, etc. Ms. Drumheller said she is not sure, but they do have hole -in -ones. Mr.
Mauro stated that in regular golf, if there is not a lot of space, they will make the course a
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par-3 course. So, if space is a limitation and it Is decided to go forward with disc golf,
maybe a par-3 course of 9 holes would work. Mr. Benton said he has played some disc
golf, and it is similar to regular golf in that there is a certain par for each hole. People who
play disc golf a lot will actually have driving discs, putting discs, chipping discs, etc. They
all look the same , but they have different weights, etc. Mr. Benton informed the
Committee that there is currently a set-up across the street from Schumann tennis courts,
at the church property. They have a disc golf course set up there. He does not know if it
is a 9-hole course or an 18-hole course. He recommended anyone who Is curious go
down there and look at that set-up.
Ms. Drumheller made a recommendation that this Committee look into the potential of
Filbert Park having the capacity and space for disc golf. She added that she can have
some folks come to the Committee meeting next time. Mr. Benton stated he will get with
staff tomorrow and figure out how quickly staff can get out and assess Filbert and do our
due diligence internally first. Then he will touch base with Ms. Drumheller prior to the next
meeting, and if we need to bring additional people in, we can. He will attempt to get
everything prepared for the September meeting. Ms. Drumheller added that there is
someone in the County Recreation Department that designed the Hobart course. Mr.
Benton said he would reach out to the County regarding that.
Ms. Webster added that, if it is decided that Filbert Park is not doable, maybe we could
expand to see if there is some other property that might be doable. Mr. Benton agreed.
Mr. Benton emphasized that he may not have all the information he needs by the
September meeting, but in that case, he will have that information at the October meeting
so that the Committee can move forward.
Mr. Danise stated he is always concerned about safety. He stated the Committee
members will need to team a lot more about disc golf.
IX. Items for next agenda and date: September 261', 2022
Ms. Webster stated that, if anyone has anything they want to discuss at the next meeting,
to please let Mr. Benton know so that he can put It on the agenda. Mr. Benton said he
usually works on the agenda the Wednesday or Thursday before the meeting. So he
would ask that the Committee members, if they have anything they want to discuss at the
next meeting, get It In early that week or the week before. He will send a meeting reminder
a week out to remind the members regarding agenda Items.
X. Adiourn
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There being nof�u�rtther business, Ms. Webster adjourned the meeting at 6:45 p.m.
By: / Date:
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