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SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
WORKSHOP
AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 15, 1997 - 7:00 P.M.
CiTY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
No public input is allowed at a Workshop, unless approved by consensus of City Council at the beginning of the Workshop. Substantive
decisions may not be made at Workshops (in accordance with R-97-21).
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. ROLL CALL
4. WORKSHOP ITEMS
97.026 A. Proposed Ordinance No. O-97-17 - Site Plan Procedures - Referred from June 11, 1997 Regular
Meeting for Further Review (Director of Community Development Transmittal 6/11/97, Revised
Ordinance)
97.112 B. Proposed Parking Ordinances (Director of Community Development Transmittal 6/11/97, Proposed
Ordinance)
5. ADJOURN
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Upcoming City Council Meeangs :
Workshop - Wednesday, dune 18, 1997 ~ 7pm
Council Wish List Workshop - Tuesday, dune 24, 1997 ~ 7pm
Regular Meeting - Wednesday, dune 25, 1997 ~ 7pm '
City of Sebastian
1225 MAIN STREET [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958
TELEPHONE (561) 589-5330 [] FAX (561) 589-5570
SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
WORKSHOP
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18, 1997 - 7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
Mayor Barnes called the workshop to order at 7:00 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
ROLL CALL
City Council Present:
Mayor Walter Barnes
Vice Mayor Richard Taracka
Mrs. Louise Cartwright (excused absence)
Mr. Larry Paul
Mrs. Ruth Sullivan
Staff Present:
City Manager, Thomas Frame
City Attorney, Valerie Settles
City Clerk, Kathryn O'Halloran
Director of Community Development,
Bob Massarelli
Deputy City Clerk, Sally Maio
It was the consensus of City Council to allow public input.
City Council Workshop
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4. WORK$ilOP iTEMS
97.026 A.
Proposed Ordinance No. O-97-!7 - $i1[¢ Plan Procedures - Referred from June 11, 1997 P~gular
Meeting for Further R~¥iew (Dir~;¢:~or of Community Developmont Transmittal 6/11/97, Revised
Ordinon~ lo be Distributed 6/16/97)
The City Attorney provided a second revision at this meeting and reviewed all changes by section.
She stated that the definition of affected party will be added to the Land Development Code.
City Council concurred with the deletion of Section 20A-10.3.14 of the original draft proposal
relative to submittal of a conceptual for review by Planning and Zoning.
Mrs. Sullivan requested that property owners associations be considered affected parties. The City
Attorney said those properly registered a~sociations could be considered affected.
Mrs. Sullivan requested that "total site" be added before "floor area" on page 7 paragraph b, but
later withdrew her request following lengthy discussion.
Mrs. Sullivan requested that "All administratively approved modifications to site plan be limited to a
one time one subject approval for an entire site development." be added in paragraphs b and c on
page 7. She requested that "or to the elevation of' in paragraph f be deleted.
She suggested that everywhere there is a direction to give a report to Planning and Zoning, that same
report go to City Council.
TAPE I - SIDE II (7:48 p.m.)
Discussion continued on the maximum square fOOtage for minor modifications. In response to Mrs.
Sullivan, the Director of Community Development suggested adding, "as evidenced by approved
building inspections" on page 16 after the word "construction",
In response to Mr. Taracka, the City Attorney said projects won't be done piecemeal with minor
modifications due to new language suggested by Mrs. Sullivan regarding "one time, one subject"
approvals in paragraphs b and c on page 7.
Following some discussion about administratively approved site plans, thc city Attorney suggested
that minor modifications approved by the Direcfor of Community Development Director go to
Planning and Zoning for confirmation. The City Manager agreed that then this would put those site
plans before public scrutiny. City Council concurred.
Mr. Paul expressed concern for reducing the square footage requirement to 500 square feet.
The City Manager said "Planning and Zoning" should be changed to "Director of Community
Development" on the bottom of page 13, paragraph 2. The City Attorney said the whole section
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would have to be changed due to the change requiring Planning and Zoning oversight. The Director
of Community Development asked what was the advantage of a minor modification if it has to go to
Planning and Zoning and the City Manager said it provides a good check and balance.
Mrs. Sullivan concurred with deleting "total site" from the 500 additional square foot requirement
for minor modifications at this time based on Planning and Zoning ratification.
Harry Thomas, 654 Balboa Street, Sebastian, asked why sidewalks and decking are not included in
impervious surface.
Carolyn Corem, 881 Delores Street, Sebastian, agreed with including those items in impervious
surface.
Tut Connelly, 149 Kildare Drive, Sebastian, asked for a definition of a real property owners
association and the City Attorney explained that it is one properly registered with the State of
Florida.
Howard Geiger, 1026 Schumann Drive, Sebastian, pointed indicating the City Manager rather than
the Director of Community Development should talk to press.
TAPE I - SIDE II (8:36 p.m.)
Following further discussion, it was the consensus of City Council to leave in "or to the elevation of'
on page 7.
97.112 B.
Mayor Barnes called recess at 8:40 p.m. and reconvenedtheworkshop at 8:55 p.m. All members
present at roll call were present.
proposed ParkingOrdin,m~ (DirectorofCo~mnunityDeveloprn~tTransmittal 6/11/97, Proposed
Ordinance)
Carolyn Corum, 881 Dolores Street, Sebastian, objected to prohibiting parking in right-of-way.
Tut Connelly, 149 Kildare Drive, Sebastian, distributed a map-and said there are areas in the City
which are high and dry and which don't need the prohibition from right-of-way parking.
Sal Neglia. 461 Georgia Boulevard, pointed out several errors and recommendations to both
proposed ordinances.
Judy McCusker, Sebastian, objected to the prohibition stating she had three vehicles and a one
vehicle driveway.
Al Goelz, Sebastian, concurred with prohibiting parking in right-of-way to protect swales and said
larger RVs are causing problems.
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Harry Thomas, 654 Balboa Street, Sebastian, said the proposed parking ordinances were inadequate
to and that protecting drainage should be the focus.
Don Smith, 208 Poinciana Street, Sebastian, asked what the intent of the ordinances was and
expressed concern with the restrictions proposed
Russ McCounell, Breakwater Terrace, Sebastian, said he agreed with prohibiting permanent parking
in swales only.
Ben Frasier, Joy Haven Drive, Sebastian, asked whether the Council was looking for aesthetics or
parking restriction and recommended using common sense.
H. Michael Roth, 474 Memorial Drive, Sebastian, objected to restricting parking in fight-of-way.
Andy Ogle, Poinciana Street, objected to prohibiting parking in right-of-way citing parking needs of
a large family.
Mayor Barnes responded to Mr. Ogle and said other cities have the police notification system and it
works.
TAPE II - SIDE II (9:35 p.m.)
Mr. Ogle continued.
Howard Geiger, 1026 Schumann Drive, Sebastian, said large trucks traveling city streets are causing
problems.
Chief White said he had concerns regarding officers having to determine right-of-way size, the
complete prohibition of parking on median or shoulder suggesting accidents be treated as exceptions,
determining track weight and the time spent doing so for a small fine, would be measured without
access to scales, and why police officers are used to enforce these provisions, questioned the city's
jurisdiction on school property, suggested stickers and citations be issued at the same time, and
asked why police officers would be used to enforce this code.
The Director of Community Development said Code Enforcement currently has no authority for
enforcement of this Chapter, that vehicles parked in driveways in the right-of-way area may have to
be exempted from the prohibition. The City Manager said the current code allows parking on a side
easement but this new language would prohibit parking in any easement.
Chief White asked what the police were supposed to do if someone had a gathering and forgot to call
it in. He said if the regulation is not enforceable why are we doing it. The Director of Community
Development said Section 98-3 I(D) was inappropriate and should be deleted.
Discussion took place on track size allowed to park in residential and it was decided to look at dual
rear wheel/axle with commercial signs.
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Chief White said the police department would need authority to impound vehicles When tickets are
not paid for some time.
Mayor Barnes suggested including yard sales in exceptions, Section 98-31.B.2.
The City Manager said he could contact DOT regarding scales in the area.
Mayor Barnes suggested adding "police" in 98-6(b), and recommended 98-3 i.C. be deleted at the
suggestion of the City Manager.
The City Manager said he did not think the City had jurisdiction over public sch6ol parking.
Mayor Barnes suggested putting 98-36 (c) back in to the proposed ordinance, requiring a vehicle to
be in an enclosed structure unless licensed, registered and insured.
Chief White said 98-37 should be "in conformance with the Florida Statute that designates it".
Mayor Barnes asked if "officer" included volunteers and the Chief said if properly trained volunteers
can ticket vehicles. Mayor Barnes suggested adding "or utilized" after "employed.
Discussion of RV parking in driveways by guests took place.
- SIDE I (10:22 p.m.)
Mayor Barnes suggested allowing guest RVs for two weeks out of every 6 months, and inquired
about enforcement of proposed 20A-5.16.1.C.(4). The majority of Council concurred with the
Mayor on RV parking.
Mr. Taracka agreed that trucks are damaging roads, and with issuing the citation at the time the
violation is noted. He stated that the call in system worked in a city where he worked and noted that
people are not asking permission for gatherings, merely informing the police. He suggested
removing "24 hours following the end of the event" since cars would leave at the end 'of an event.
MOTION by Sullivan/Taracka
I would move to extend the meeting until 11:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Mr. Barnes
Mr. Taracka
Mrs. Cartwfight
Mr. Paul
Mrs. Sullivan
-aye
-absent
MOTION CARRIED 4-0
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Mr. Paul expressed concern for the public's perception of the requirements of 98-31.B. regarding
exceptions to the right-of-way parking prohibition and procedures for call-in to the Police
Department, noting that people had referred to becoming a "police state". He asked who is
responsible for swales. The City Manage said damage to swales is~ a cost borne by the general public
and that he thought Council could legislate that homeowners not damage swales but could not
legislate that homeowners maintain the drainage system.
Mr. Paul said he had a problevo with the police registration, restricting parking on school grounds,
restricting RVs and telling people how to live.
Mrs. Sullivan recommended adding in Section 98-31, new paragraphs 5 "Vehicles with boat trailers
using the Cavcorp property for the boat ramps" and 6 "Public Riverfront parking east of Riverview
Park limited to standing only". The Director of Community Development suggested rather than
standing only a time limit be set and suggested 30 minutes. The City Manager noted there are picnic
tables and will be an observation pier. He said this may need to be evaluated and a recommendation
brought back. The Director of Community Development suggested a separate resolution to
designate certain areas where right-of-way parking can be allowed, but Mrs. Sullivan said she would
rather see it in ordinance form so it is harder to change. Mayor Barnes suggested adding in. the time
limit at this time and discussing it the next time it is brought back.
In response to Mrs. Sullivan, the Director of Community Development said Section '98-3 I.B.3.
should suffice relative to loading.
5. Being no further business, Mayor Barnes adjourned the workshop at 10:49 p.m.
Approved at the ~v~ q , 1997, Regular City Council Meeting.
Walter W. Barnes
Mayor