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AGENDA
SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETiNG
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 1993 - 7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAiN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
ALL PROPOSED ORDINANCES AND INFORMATION ON ITEMS
BELOW MAY BE iNSPECTED iN THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK,
CITY HALL, 1225 MAiN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA.
PURPOSE:
Discuss Habitat Conservation Plan
Implementatlon
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. ROLL CALL
93.336/ 4.
92.213
DISCUSS HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN IMPLEMENTATION
(Director of Community Transmittal dated 11/2/93 -
List of Events and Exhibits)
5. ADJOURN
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HEARING) WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO
ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH
RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL
IS TO BE HEARD. (286.0105 F.S.)
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MINUTES
SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 1993 - 7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
ALL PROPOSED ORDINANCES AND INFORMATION ON ITEMS
BELOW MAY BE INSPECTED IN THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK,
CITY HALL, 1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA.
PURPOSE:
Discuss Habitat Conservation Plan
Implementation
Mayor Powell called the Special Meeting to order at
7:00 p.m. and explained its purpose.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Lonnie Powell
Vice Mayor Frank Oberbeck
Mrs. Carolyn Corum
Mrs. Norma Damp
Mr. Robert Freeland
Also Present:
City Clerk/Acting City Manager,
Kathryn M. O'Halloran
Assistant City Attorney, Richard Torpy
Director of Community Development,
Bruce Cooper
Deputy City Clerk, Sally Maio
Special city council Meeting
November 8, 1993
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93.336/ 4.
92.213
DISCUSS HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN IMPLEMENTATION
(Director of Community Development Transmittal dated
11/2/93 - List of Events and Exhibits)
The Director of Community Development noted the
atten~anc~ of this meeting~y Dawn Zattau, U.S. Fish
and Wlldllfe Service; Brian~Tolland, Florida Game
and Freshwater Fish; and Lisa Barr, Brevard County;
and read a letter from U.S. Fish and Wildlife,
received at City Hall today, for the record (see
attached), the content of which advised that U.S.
Fish and Wildlife will no longer issue "no take"
concurrence letters on a lot by lot basis and advised
that permit applicants will be able to choose between
development of an individual habitat conservation
plan (HCP) or wait for completion of a city-wide HCP.
Edra Young, 1151 Clearmont Street; Barrett Balthaser,
679 SW Bayfront Terrace; Keith Miller, 961 Riviera
Avenue; John Revella, 429 Georgia Boulevard; Wally
Kramer, Micco; A1 Vilardi, 445 Georgia Boulevard; and
Sal Neglia, 461 Georgia Boulevard; addressed City
council on the issue, generally objecting to the
mandates established by U.S. Fish and Wildlife
Service relative to scrub jay habitat.
The Director of Community Development recommended
that individual lots be left alone and those tracts
not yet subdivided be looked at for mitigation.
Lisa Barr, Director of Brevard County Outdoor
Resources Management Division, informed city Council
on the course that Brevard County followed to finally
begin implementation of a habitat conservation plan
with a thirty year duration for approximately 12,000
acres and development of a system to spread funding
over as wide a base as possible, and submitted a
briefing document to City Council which was prepared
by Brevard County to submit to the federal government
for additional funding.
TAPE I - SIDE II (7:48 p.m.)
Ms. Barr responded to questions from city Council.
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The Director of Community Development noted that
Roland DeBlois, Indian River County was also in the
audience to answer questions, and introduced Dawn
Zattau, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
Dawn Zattau responded to questions from staff and
city Council, updated city Council on recent reports
that approximately twelve families of scrub jays have
been lost within the last two years, reported that
the agency has been assigned the task of protecting the
species by Congress and cannot allow unauthorized
incidental takes to continue, resulting in today's
letter to the city. In response to Mayor Powell,
she said the average territory size for a scrub jay
family is twenty five acres and reported that the
Golf Course property can be used but biologically
will not sustain the entire scrub jay population to
keep the link between the rest of Indian River County
and Brevard County active.
Vice Mayor Oberbeck excused from 8:08 p.m. to 8:10
pm.
Discussion continued on possible alternatives to
satisfy U.S. Fish and Wildlife mandates. The
Director of Community Development advised that the
current procedure has been for individual lot owners
to obtain "no take" letters from U.S. Fish and
Wildlife on their own and advised that if Council
decided to develop an HCP, in addition to
implementation of the plan, funds would have to be
expended for consultants and land purchase.
Mrs. Damp referred to local governmental agencies'
resolutions urging an end to unfunded mandates and
noted that Indian River County has spent $30 million
on unfunded federal mandates thus far.
Mayor Powell called recess at 8:20 p.m. and
reconvened the meeting at 8:36 p.m. Ail members were
present.
In response to Mrs. Corum, Ms. Zattau recommended
City Council obtain a mediator to assist the city in
implementing a habitat conservation plan and
recommended Michael O'Connell, at the Nature
Conservancy in Winter Park.
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Mrs. Corum recommended that the city order the book,
"Reconciling Conflicts Under the Endangered Species
Act", by Mr. O'Connell. Ms. Zattau said individual
10ts can be developed now by using mitigation
methods, although definitive ratios have not yet been
determined by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife.
TAPE II - SIDE I (8:49 p.m.)
City Council input and inquiries continued. Ms.
Zattau responded to inquiries from the Director of
Community Development stating that loss of scrub jays
would mean loss of the habitat on which they exist,
that in areas that have been developed over the last
two years jay families have been lost, if birds
eventually die out on preserved land the land would
probably be released but it would have to be left
open for a couple~of breeding seasons, the map
provided by Brian~Tolland shows the areas of concern
for U.S. Fish and Wildlife, that if the city does not
develop an HCP individual lot owners will have to
obtain "no take" letters and the process could take
up to sixty days, it will cost individual lot owners
even if the city develops an HCP, that the only way a
permit would ever be denied is if it jeopardized the
continued existence of the entire sub-species, and
that U.S. Fish and Wildlife will have no problem with
totally grass lots in scrub areas.
Ms. Zattau again urged development of an HCP and
recommended a mediator.
The majority of City Council expressed objections to
U.S. Fish and Wildlife mandates.
The city Attorney explained options available and
advised city Council on the legal ramifications of
those options, stated that, in his opinion, U.S. Fish
and Wildlife is posturing itself for action against
the city of Sebastian if the city does not comply
with their mandates, advised that if the city issues
a development permit which results in a take of
habitat it will be held liable with fines up to
$25,000 per take, said that the city could 1) prepare
an HCP, 2) take a posture that it will not issue a
permit unless the applicant obtains a permit from U.S.
Fish and Wildlife or from the State of Florida during
nesting season, referring to a case in Juno Beach,
and 3) to issue permits and develop a test case,
which, in his opinion, the least viable option, since
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it will be difficult to decide who will be the test
case, could be very costly and because the city's
ability to challenge the Endangered Species Act is
very questionable. He recommended option two and
surmised that eventually indian River County will
soon be dealing with this same issue.
Mayor Powell reiterated citizen advice to send
letters to Congressmen and Mr. Freeland suggested a
resolution be adopted and submitted to Congress.
The Director of Community Development sought
direction and recommended, if it is Council's intent
to pursue an HCP, his first step would be to contact
Indian River County regarding land acquisition and
advised that the five designated scrub areas will be
removed from the tax rolls regardless.
MOTION by Oberbeck
I say leave it up to Fish and Wildlife we'll let
the property owners apply to Fish and Wildlife,
burden them with paper, they can hire more people,
the bureaucracy can get bigger and they can give them
permits, number two, my position would be let the
citizens request permits, secure them from state and
Fish and Wildlife, appropriate agencies and come back
to the city.
MOTION died for lack of a second.
MOTION by Corum
I make a motion for Council to contact a mediator
to start the process of an HCP.
MOTION died for lack of a second.
MOTION by Corum
Can I make a motion that the city contacts Indian
River County to discuss an HCP.
MOTION died for lack of a second.
Mrs. Corum explained her last motion for the benefit
of Mrs. Damp.
The Director of Community Development said if there
is no motion he will abide by the Fish and Wildlife
letter and not issue permits until individuals obtain
approval from Fish and Wildlife.
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MOTION by Oberbeck/Freeland
I'm going to move again (tape ended)
TAPE II - SIDE II (9:37 p.m.)
I'll reword that'not to issue any permits on
properties where Fish and Wildlife are involved until
such time as Fish and Wildlife provides the proper
permits to the applicant or the property owner -
option two.
Mr. Freeland expressed his objection to federal
mandates, Mayor Powell urged citizens to speak out
against the mandate and Mrs. Corum urged
implementation of an HCP.
ROLL CALL:
Mr. Oberbeck - aye
Mrs. Corum - nay
Mrs. Damp - aye
Mr. Freeland - aye
Mayor Powell - nay
MOTION CARRIED 3-2 (Corum, Powell - nay)
The Director of Community Development requested
further direction to pursue other avenues to assist
property owners.
Being no further business, Mayor Powell adjourned the
Special Meeting at 9:43 p.m.
Approved~at the
Meeting.
Kathryd M. O'Halloran, CMC\AAE
City Clerk
As
, 1993, City Council
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