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HomeMy WebLinkAbout12051988City of Sebastian POST OFFICE BOX 780127 o SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978 TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330 MINUTES SEBASTIAN CiTY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING MONDAY, DECEMBER 5, 1988 - 7:00 P.M. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 1225 MAiN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA ALL PROPOSED ORDINANCES AND INFORMATION ON ITEMS LISTED ~ELOW MAY BE INSPECTED IN'THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK, CITY HALL, 1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA. Mayor Votapka called the special meeting to order at 7:05 P.M. 2. The Pledge of Allegiance was lead by Libbie Reid. 3. ROLL CALL Present: Councilman George Metcalf Councilman Robert McCarthy Councilman Kenneth Roth Councilman Peter Vallone Mayor Richard Votapka Also Present: City Manager, Robert McClary Director of Community Development, Bruce Cooper City Clerk, Kathryn M. O~Halloran Administrative Secretary, Elizabeth Reid Indian River County Engineer James Davis 4. ELECTION OF VICE MAYOR Councilman McCarthy nominated himself Councilman Metcalf nominated Councilman Roth MOTION by Councilman McCarthy/Metcalf I move that nominations be closed. VOICE VOTE on the motion carried 5-0. ROLL CALL - VOICE VOTE Councilman Metcalf voted for Councilman Roth Councilman Roth voted for Himself Councilman Vallone refused to vote Mayor Votapka voted for Councilman Roth Councilman McCarthy voted for himself RESULT: 3 Votes for Councilman Roth, 1 Vote for Councilman McCarthy and 1 abstention. Vice Mayor Roth expressed his thanks. 88.177 5. PUBLIC INPUT ON CR 512 CORRIDOR AND THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR SEBASTIAN Jim Davis, Public Works Director, Indian River County gave a concise report relative to the 512 Corridor and Thoroughfare plan and the corridor analysis for County Road 512 (CR 512) as presented to Indian River County by Keith and Schnars, P.A., Ft. Lauderdale, Florida dated November 1988. Mr. Davis substantiated Councilman Metcalf's concern and noted that Main Street will not be a through road as previously proposed but will terminate at the intersection of Wimbrow Drive. Vice Mayor Roth expressed his concern to the eventual closing of the railroad crossing on Old Dixie Highway. Mr. Davis suggested that the City of Sebastian write a letter to the Board of County Commissioners, Indian River County expressing objections to the closing of the railroad crossing. The following people addressed the City Council and Mr. Jim Davis: Harry Norris, Cliff McCool, Mary Pereault, Henry Fisher, Everett Gass, Henry Dolan, Shirley Kilkelly, Ed Meserve, Robert Fullerton, Lois (inaudible), Greg Golien, and Tom McNutt. Mayor Votapka noted the following corrections to Keith and Schnars Transportation Report dated November 18, 1988. (see verbatim of comments attached) Bottom of Page 3 - Comment "This concept is consistent with the U.S. 1 Corridor Study recently completed for the Florida Department of Transportation." The U.S. 1 Corridor Study is inconsistent unless it has been corrected. Exhibit #27 - Shows a 4 lane enhanced arterial route through Sebastian. Does D.O.T. plan on taking 110' of right-of-way. Currently there is 100' of right-of-way. Question: Do the Planners think they will have a 6 lane arterial route through Sebastian? This would require ~8~· 130' right-of-way. The plan as was adopted July 1988, is for a 4 lane enhanced urban arterial section. Mayor Votapka expressed his concern relative to 110'+ right-of-way and the taking of buildings along U.S. 1. He requested that the language in the report be correct and consistent. Page 4 - Change Barber Road to Barber Street. Wabasso Road should be 85th Street. Also Stratton Street should be Stratton Avenue. Winbrow Drive corrected to Wimbrow Drive. Page 5 - The verb was should be were. 6th Consideration on Page 5 - Barber Street and Biscayne Avenue should be Biscayne Lane. Page 11 - Could consideration be given to cut down the elevation of 512 West of the railroad tracks more closely to the level of the businesses that are on the South Side? Map 1 - Schumann Drive from U.S. 1 down to Wabas$o Road (510) should be a County or City Urban Collector. 3 Vice Mayor Roth asked Mr. Davis to make a note of the date, February 3, 1988 relating to the minutes of the County Transportation Committee which he had previously been a member. He stated that the committee had been presented backup that denoted anticipated revenue coming back from the state and the county, "weight and gas" tax. Total projected income for 5 years from 1987 to 1991 showed an amount of $21,000,000 (rounded off). He stated his ob3ection to the county funding improvements to CR 512 exclusively with impact fees. In addition to impact fees the Vice Mayor feels the County Comission should improve CR 512 with county option gasoline tax proceeds. He also suggested that the 5th and 6th cent portion of the State gasoline tax should be included in funding. Meeting ADJOURNED 9:30 P.M. * Approved as amended at the 12/14/88 regular meeting. Richard B. Votapka, Mayor 5 VOTAPKA: I WOULD LIKE TO REFER TO THE NOVEMBER 18 REVISION OF THE TRANSPORTATION REPORT BY KEITH AND SCHNARS, WHO WERE THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS. AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 3, IT APPEARS UNDERLINED: "6 LANES DIVIDED WITH FRONTAGE ROADS", U.S. 1 FROM BREVARD COUNTY LINE TO COUNTY ROAD 510, WABASSO ROAD. THE COMMENT MADE: "THIS CONCEPT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE US 1 CORRIDOR STUDY RECENTLY COMPLETED FOR THE FLORIDA DEPART- MENT OF TRANSPORTATION". IN LOOKING THROUGH THE US 1 CORRIDOR STUDY I FIND THAT IT IS INCONSISTENT UNLESS IT HAS BEEN CORRECTED. EXHIBIT 27 SHOWS A 4 LANE ENHANCED ARTERIAL ROUTE THROUGH SEBASTIAN AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE DOT ONLY PLANS ON TAKING 110' OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 100' OF RIGHT-OF-WAY GOING THROUGH. MY MAJOR CONCERN IS IF THIS HAS 'BEEN CORRECTED OR REVISED OR IF THE PLANNER$,.,THtNK~EY WILL HAVE A 6 LANE ARTERIAL ROUTE THROUGHSEBASTIAN,~AT WOULD MEAN RiGHT-OF-WAY. I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD TO HJ~E iHA~ ~E~fE""~ HAVE TO DEMOLISH A LOT OF EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE MAIN STREET INTERSECTION WITH US 1. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE PLAN AS IT WA'S ADOPTED BACK IN JULY, IS ACTUALLY A 4 LANE ENHANCED URBAN ARTERIAL SECTION. DAVIS; DOT HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THE WORD "ENHANCED" ARTERIAL. ORIGINALLY IN PLAN THERE WAS A 3 WAY CONCEPT WHERE THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ACCESS TO US 1 EXCEPT AT MAYBE 1 OR 2 MILE INTERVALS. THEY CAME UP WiTH THE "ENHANCED" ARTERIAL DESIGNATION TO FREE UP A LITTLE BIT ON THAT ACCESSM. BUTCERTAINLY TO IMPLEMENT WHAT THEY CALL AN "ENHANCED" ARTERIAL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TREMENDOUSLY CUT BACK THE ACESS OF THE ROADWAY. WHAT WE'RE FINDING THAT THE REAL WORLD iS TELLING THE DOT IS THEY NEED TO FREE UP A LITTLE BIT ON THAT ACCESS REQUIREMENT WHICH WOULD NECESSITATE THEM GOING TO 6 LANES. I THINK THE CONSULTANT HAD SOME COMMUNICATION WITH DOT AND YOU'LL FIND THAT THAT ENHANCED ARTERIAL WiLL BE MORE OF A 6 LANE ARTERIAL WITH A LITTLE MORE 'FREQUENT ACCESS THAN THEY ANTICIPATED. VOTAPKA: WOULD THAT INVOLVE AN ADDITIONAL TAKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY? DAVIS: IT COULD INVOLVE SOME MINOR. TAKING, BUT A 6 LANE FACILITY, USUALLY THOSE LANES ARE 12' WIDE, SO IF YOU MULTIPLY 6 X 12, YOU GET 72' OF PAVEMENT. YOU'VE GOT A MEDIAN STRIP THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN WHICH IS A NICE FEATURE TO HAVE FOR SAFETY PURPOSES AND I THINK. YOUR MEDIAN IS ON THE ORDER OF 22-24' IN SOME AREAS. IT VARIES, BUT IF YOU ADD THAT 22 OR SO FEET TO THE .72, YOU WIND UP WITH CLOSE TO 100 AND YOU'VE GOT SIDEWALKS BEYOND THAT SO THERE MAY BE SOME TAKING. SOME OF THE'PARKING MAY HAVE TO BE RELINQUISHED AND AND THERE MAY HAVE TO BE SOME MINOR WIDENING AND MAYBE EVEN ENCROACHING THE MEDIAN A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE IT. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING ANY BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING DRAMATIC. VOTAPKA: THAT WAS A CONCERN I HAD, IT WOULD GO BEYOND THE 110' AND GET INTO TAKING OF BUILDINGS WE HAVE ALONG US 1. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT LANGUAGE IN THE REPORT IS CORRECT AND IS CONSISTENT. VOTAPKA: ON PAGE 4 UNDER "FOUR LANES DIVIDED", BARBER ROAD SHOULD BE CHANGED TO BARBER STREET. UNDER "THREE OR FOUR LANES", "CR 510 FROM CR 512 TO WABASSO ROAD", THIS IS ON THE MAP, AND IT IS SHOWN THAT IF YOU GO FROM 512 SOUTH, IT SAYS TO WABASSO ROAD. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TERMINOLOGY FOR THE REPORT IF WABASSO ROAD SHOULD BE 85TH STREET WHICH IT INTERSECTS COMING OUT OF VERO LAKE ESTATES. FURTHER ON, YOU HAVE STRATTON STREET WHICH SHOULD BE STRATTON AVENUE. UNDER "TWO LANES" WINBROW DRIVE SHOULD BE CHANGED TO WIMBROW DRIVE. PAGE 5 - YOUR'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSIDERATIONS AND I THINK THE REPORT IS IN ERROR. THE USE OF THE VERB "WAS" SHOULD BE "WERE" BECAUSE YOU HAVE MANY CONSIDERATIONS. GOING DOWN TO THE 6TH CONSIDERATION, IT SHOULD BE BARBER STREET AND BISCAYNE AVENUE SHOULD BE BISCAYNE LANE. PAGE 11 - PHASED CONSTRUCTION - ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HAD 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO WAS TO CUT DOWN THE ELEVATION OF 512 WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND DOT DiD NOT CUT DOWN AS MUCH AS WE WANTED BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MAINTAIN HIGH STREET. WHICH ACCESSES OFF THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS CLOSED, COULD THAT ROAD BE FURTHER CUT DOWN MORE CLOSELY TO THE LEVEL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE? IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THAT? IF NOT, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE. MAP 1 - THE LEGEND SAYS: "COUNTY - URBAN COLLECTORS" BY THE INDICATION OF THE MAP, IT SHOWS THAT SCHUMANN DRIVE FROM US 1 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WABASSO ROAD 510, IS A COUNTY-URBAN COLLECTOR. DAVIS: THAT SHOULD BE "COUNTY OR CITY URBAN COLLECTOR". MAP 2 - SHOWS A CONNECTION BETWEEN MAIN STREET AND ROSELAND ROAD ON MY REVISED COPY AND THE PROPOSED ROUTING IS ACROSS LAKE HARDEE. DAVIS: i THINK WE CORRECTED THAT ON THE RECOMMENDED - VOTAPKA: YES, THE RECOMMENDATION CORRECTED IT, BUT THE MAP IS STILL INCONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. MAP 3 - SHOWS ROSELAND ROAD-LACONIA AS 4 LANES. IT'ALSO SHOWS BARBER STREET AS 4 LANES ACCORDING TO THE LEGEND. WHY SHOULD 510 WHICH IS SOUTH ALL ALONG 90TH AVENUE~FROM 512 DOWN TO WABASSO OR 85TH STREET BE SHOWN AS 3 OR 4 LANES? THERE IS NO TRAFFIC ADT PROJECTED VOLUME ON THIS AND MY FEELING WOULD BE THAT WABASSO ROAD 510 SHOULD BE THE MAJOR TRUCK ROUTE. I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT WANT TRUCKS DIRECTED THROUGH THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN THROUGH MAJOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND I WOULD THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE THIS AREA WHERE THIS SEGMENT OF 510 4 LANES ALL THE WAY THROUGH. IF YOU LOOK AT MAP 2'YOU HAVE 16,000 AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC FOR LACONIA, 24,000 FOR LACONIA, THEN YOU HAVE 31,000 FOR 510 WEST OF LACONIA. NOW THE PORTION OF 510 FROM 512 TO 85TH STREET SHOULD BE 4 LANES, WHICH IT IS, TO CARRY THE 31,000 ADT, UNLESS THE CONSULTANT HAS DETERMINED THAT LESS VOLUME'WOULD BE CARRIED ON THIS PORTION. :GRANTED THERE ARE TO BE A LARGE NUMBER OF VEHICLES GOING TO THE VERO LAKES REGION WHEN IT IS DEVELOPED, BUT I THINK THERE WILL ALSO BE A LARGE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ACCESSING ON TO 90TH AVENUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SHOPPING AREAS THAT EXIST IN ROSELAND. ALSO FACILITIES WHICH EXIST IN SEBASTIAN AND ALSO SCHOOLS THAT EXIST. WE HAVE A LOT OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC WITH BUSES AS WELL AS REGULAR PASSENGER VEHICLES. I THINK THAT AREA OUGHT TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN FROM A 4 LANE INSTEAD OF A 3 OR 4 LANE. - 2 - DAVIS:' IF.,YOU..'ENViSt0N THE-~AR'EA WEST OF SEBASTIAN, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE 1-95"NODE, THE~'COUNTY. LAND'USE PLAN'DESIGNATES A COM- MERCIAL-'INDUSTR%'AL N'ODE'.~T THAT LOCA%ION. IF', IN THE 'FUTURE, WE DID GET A REG'IONAL'.TSHOPPING AREA. IN .THAT NODE, YOU MAY FIND. THAT THE VERO LAKE ESTATES PEOPLE'"MAY BE ATRAC'TED TO THAT NODE ,AND NOT GO .' EASTERLY AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONNECTIONS WEST OF,',5,10 ON 512 THAT COULD HANDLE THAT TRAFFIC AND-IT' WOULD NOT BE LOADED ON TO 510. I'THINK THAT"$.~EHAT THE.CONSULTANTS SORT OF INDICATED BETWEEN 85TH AND 512. HE DID NOT FEEL A LARGE .NUMBER OF TRIPS"WOULD BE.'iDIRECTED THAT WAY, PARTICULARLY WHEN. A COMMERCIAL NODE IS P. LUGGED IN';AT 1-95. I THINK HE FELT THEY.'D GO EASTBOUND.ON...,510 O'R WESTBOUND ON 51.2-WEST OF 510, AND THAT LINK CAME UP A LITTLE BIT '.TO THE LEFT-OF THAT.~'SECTION. VOTAPKA: ONE .THING, TOO, I".M NOT SURE THE CONSULTANT I.S AWARE. HOPEFULLY, SOME DAY WE'LL~ GET A HIGH SCHOOL IN THAT AREA.AND THAT WILL CREATE A LARGE VOLUME O~ TRAF. FIC. DAVIS: I DON"T 'THINK THAT LOCATION.'HAS BEEN DETERMINED~ VOTAPKA: 'I 'WOUL'D ALSO CALL .YOURATTENTION TO'""PLANS A,B,C,E IN TIlE REPORT AND SUGGEST THAT BARBER AVENUE BE CHANGED TO STREET, BI, SCAYNE AVENUE BE CHANGED TO LANE, RAILROAD RIGHT.OF-WAY BE SHOWN AS ABANDONDED AND THAT PLAN D LABEL THE 8' WI'DE BIKE PATH WHICH JUST SHOWS TWO LINES, ON THE NORTH'..SIDE ..:~.., OF THE ROADWAY. THE' BIKE PATH IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON TH'El, NORTH SIDE OF 512'. IT SHOWS IT 'BUT.. IT'S NOT LABELED.. D IS-THE 'RECOMMENDED PLAN. ON SECTION E. THERE SHOUL:D "BE A N.ORTH.'ARROW :WHICH SHOULD APPEAR ABOVE THE RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY.'.AND THERE AGAIN THAT SHOULD BE LABLED AN ABANDONED RAILROAD RIGHT. 0.F-WAY~ THERE WAS ONE-OTHER QUESTION. I THINK MR'. PREUSS BROUGHT IT. UP BEFORE cONCERNING RIGHT-OF-WAY OF EASTBOUND LANE IN THE SECTION OF HIGH STREET 'BETWEEN LOUISIANA AVENUE AND THE'' RAILROAD RIGHT-OFzWAY. THE RIGHT~OF-WAY::.IS PROJECTED TO'.~.BE 94' AT' THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER'.OR.:,NOT 'THE ADDITIONAL TAKING OF RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD AFFECT THE BUSINESSES.ON .T:HE SOUTH SIDE OF THE :ROAD. 'I' WONDER IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, TO LOOK I'NT-O THAT.~ DAVIS: WELL,. THE EXISTING 'RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG. 512 IN THI'S AREA VARIES FROM '~' TO 80 TO EVEN MORE IN SOME AREAS. THERE WILL .CERTAINLY.' HAVE TO BE SOME , ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAyS -PROVIDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE 94.~- THAT IS RECOIMMENDED. ON THE NORTH SIDE YOU HAVE NO DEVELOPMENT WEST OF THE 'RAILROAD TRACK. THERE'S A NEW GAS STATION 'EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACK AND A CAR DEALER, BUT I THINK WE HA.VE 80'. IN THOSE AREAS. IN ,THE FUTURE, AS WE IMPLEMENT THE FULL 3 LANE ,SECTION HERE, -THERE MAY HAVE~ TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAYS. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION.. THE 94 IS A TYPICAL RECOMMENDED SUGGESTED RURAL SECTION Ri'GHT-OF'-WAY. IF WE CAN'T GET THE 94, ITTS POSSIBLE' TO GO WITH A MORE NARROW RI.GHT-~OF-WAY"~ 'BUT THEN YOU COMPROMI'SE,.: BY HAVING TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON DRAINAGE AND UTILITY CORRIDOR ACCOMI~ODATION AND OTHER THINGS AND THE MORE CONSTRAINED YOU GET THE MORE EXPENSIVE THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE USUALLY. VOTAPKA: THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK IT'S ONLY FOR A SHORT'.SECTION, BUT TH'AT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN EXPRESSED LAST TIME. I HAVE NO FUR%HER COMMENTS.