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POST OFFICE BOX 780127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978
TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330
MINUTES OF MEETING
AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD
MAY 31, 1988 - 4:00 P.M.
MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY CHAIRMAN EDWARD PALUCH AT 4:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
ROGER COOPER
MICHAEL KENNEY
EARL MASTELLER
RENE VAN DE VOORDE
THEODORE AHNEMAN
CHAIRMAN EDWARD PALUCH
JOHN VAN ANTWERP, EX OFFICIO MEMBER
KENNETH MEGUIN
ROBERT MORROW (EXCUSED)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, TO A'PPROVE THE MINUTES
OF THE MEETING OF APRIL 26 INCLUDING THE VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT REGARDING
THE PROPOSED COLLIER PLACE DEVELOPMENT. CARRIED.
OPERATING STATEMENT FOR PERIOD ENDING 4/30/88: - NO DISCUSSION.
PUBLIC INPUT:
JOHN EVANS, REPRESENTING "CITIZENS AGAINST AIRPORT EXPANSION" -
MR. EVANS COMMENTED THAT'THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY ALTERNATIVE PLANS
CONSIDERED IN THE MASTER PLAN WHICH ADDRESS THE FUTURE POSSIBLE
CONFLICT BETWEEN ZONING AND FUTURE USES OF THE AIRPORT. HE
INTRODUCED AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN WHICH PROPOSES THE USE OF RUNWAY
9~7 AND THE CLOSING OF RUNWAY 442. THERE WOULD BE A GREAT DEAL
OF LAND ABUTTING THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH COULD INCREASE THE SIZE
OF THE GOLF COURSE. THE CLEAR ZONE OFF OF RUNWAY 422 COULD BE
USED AS A PARK.,. THE USE OF RUNWAY 927 WOULD DIRECT THE FLIGHT
OF PLANES OVER ~'HE POST OFFICE AREA RATHER THAN OVER RESIDENTIAL
AREAS. THIS RUNWAY WOULD BE ABOUT 3600' LONG.
BILL MARKHAM, 238 MAIN STREET - MR. MARKHAM REMARKED THAT HE
DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE:IS SO MUCH CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE
NOISE. THE NOISE DOESN'T BOTHER HIM.
NORMAN LINGARD, POINT OF WOODS - MR. LINGARD STATED THE NOISE
DOES BOTHER HIM,
PUBLIC INPUT (Cont'd.)
STEVE JOHNSON, SEBASTIAN AERO - MR. JOHNSON STATED HE WAS SPEAKING
FOR MIKE BRADSHAW, GOLDEN HORN AVIATION, AS WELL AS FOR HIMSELF,
IN OBJECTING TO THIS PLAN. MR. BRADSHAW'S BUILDING WOULD HAVE
TO BE MOVED AND HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE FUNDS WOULD COME FROM
S0 TO DO. ALSO, IT WAS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD TAKE QUITE
A FEW STUDIES TO OPEN A RUNWAY WHICH ALSO WOULD BE TIME-CONSUMING.
IN ADDITION CUTTING OFF 400' WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF LEASES AND
IF THE AIRPORT IS CHOPPED UP INTO PIECES, THE FAA COU~LD POSSIBLY
TAKE BACK CONTROL.
BILL STEPHENSON, PRO-FLITE - PRO-FLITE STUDENTS DO USE THE
SEBASTIAN AIRPORT ON A LIMITED BASIS. WE HAVE COOPERATED WITH
SEBASTIAN'S BAN ON TOUCH-AND-GO, BUT FEEL THAT STOP AND GO MAKES
MUCH MORE NOISE. HE CAUTIONED THAT CARE SHOULD BE TAKEN IN WHAT IS
LIMITED AT THE AIRPORT IN ViEW OF THE TERMS OF THE QUIT CLAIM
DEED.
TOM GILLESPIE, FLIGHT SAFETY - MR. GILLESPIE AGREED WITH MR.
STEPHENSON'S REMARKS AND ADDED THAT THEY WOULD COOPERATE AS MUCH
AS THEY CAN.
BILL CORCORAN, PRO FLITE - WILLING TO COOPERATE, BUT OF THE OPINION
THAT TRAINING PLANES ARE THE LEAST NOISY OF ANY PLANES USING THE
AIRPORT.
6. OLD BUSINESS:
A. AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT:
THE SITE FOR THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING HAS BEEN CLEARED. THE
BOARD WILL BE KEPT ADVISED OF DEVELOPMENTS ON THIS MATTER.
THE WIND TEE HAS BEEN LIGHTED. TRANSFORMER HAS BEEN INSTALLED
AND RUNWAY LIGHTS ARE BRIGHTER AND ALL OPERATIONAL.
A LETTER HAS BEEN SENT TO THE CONSULTANT REGARDING THE AIRPORT
MASTER PLAN, AS THE OUTCOME OF A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
MR. MASTELLER QUESTIONED MR. VAN ANTWERP'S AUTHORITY TO HAVE THE MAIN-
TENANCE BUILDING SITE CLEARED AND FELT IT WAS PREMATURE IN VIEW OF
THE FACT THAT A FORMAL SITE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE PLAN-
NING AND ZONING COMMISSION. ALSO, THE CITY MANAGER HAS CONCERNS AS
TO WHETHER THE BUILDING IS NECESSARY AND WHETHER THE BUILDING IS LOCATED
ON GOLF COURSE PROPERTY. MR. VAN ANTWERP REPLIED THAT HIS AUTHORITY
IS SPELLED OUT BY THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN'S RULES AND REGULATIONS AS
WELL AS THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THE DECISION TO BUILD A MAINTENANCE
BUILDING WAS MADE BY THE CiTY COUNCIL AND THE MONEY WAS APPROPRIATED.
A SURVEY HAS BEEN MADE OF THE AREA AND THE SITE IS LOCATED ON AIR-
PORT PROPERTY THAT IS NOT LEASED TO THE GOLF COURSE. THE SURVEY IS
AVAILABLE IN CITY HALL FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SEE IT.
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NEW BUSINESS:
A. CORRESPONDENCE RE: AIRPORT TRAFFIC
MR. VAN ANTWERP STATED THERE WAS ONE LETTER WHICH WAS
INCLUDED IN THE MEETING PACKET AND THERE WERE ALSO SEVERAL
PHONE CALLS. CHAIRMAN PALUCH STATED THAT THIS HAD ALREADY
BEEN PRETTY WELL COVERED.
POLE BUILDING
MR. MASTELLER INQUIRED AS TO THE STATUS OF THE MINOR SITE
PLAN. MR. VAN ANTWERP STATED THAT HE IS CURRENTLY NEGOTIAT-
ING TO HAVE THE PLANS DRAWN UP. MR. MASTELLER POINTED
OUT THAT THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE PLANS MUST BE DRAWN
BY AN ENGINEER. MR. VAN ANTWERP REPLIED THAT HE IS COORDI-
NATING EVERYTHING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THEY ARE LOOKING
AT ALTERNATIVES. MR. MASTELLER FELT THAT MR. VAN ANTWERP
SHOULD GET INPUT FROM THE BOARD AND IMPLEMENT ITS INSTRUCT-
IONS. MR. VAN DE VOORDE REMARKED THAT PERHAPS THERE SHOULD BE
A CLARIFICATION OF THE STRU'CTURE BETWEEN THE AIRPORT ADVISORY
BOARD, THE AIRPORT MANAGER, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
MR. VAN ANTWERP STATED HIS UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HE MANAGES
THE AIRPORT AND WORKS DIRECTLY FOR THE CITY MANAGER. HE
REPORTS TO THE BOARD THE ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND
GIVES ADVICE WHEREVER HE CAN. THE BOARD'S POSITION IS THAT
THEY SERVE THE CITY COUNCIL. THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL SET
POLICY. THE MANAGEMENT DETAIL WINDS UP WITH MR. VAN'ANTWERP,
THE CITY MANAGER, AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS.
MOTION BY MR. VAN DE VOORDE, SECONDED BY MR. COOPER, THAT
WE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE AUGUST MEETING A WORKSHOP WITH
THE CITY MANAGER.
MR. VAN DE VOORDE EXPLAINED THAT HE SUGGESTED AUGUST SINCE
THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE BUSY WITH THE BUDGET AND HE, MR.
VAN DE VOORDE, WILL NOT BE HERE IN JULY. MR.. VAN ANTWERP
SUGGESTED THAT PERHAPS ANSWERS RELATIVE TO THIS QUESTION
COULD BE OBTAINED FROM THE CITY MANAGER THROUGH CORRESPOND-
ENCE PRIOR TO A MEETING, WORKING ON THE BUDGET AS WELL AS
HIS OTHER DUTIES WILL KEEP HIM QUITE BUSY UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
MOTION BY MR. VAN DE VOORDE, SECONDED BY MR. MASTELLER, TO
AMEND MOTION TO SEPTEMBER AGENDA.
MOTION BY MR. VAN DE VOORDE, SkCONDED BY MR. MASTELLER, TO
AMEND THE AMENDMENT TO REQUEST THAT THE CITY MANAGER BE
PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE JUNE MEETING, AND IF HE IS
UNABLE TO BE AT THE JUNE MEETING, REQUEST THAT HE BE AT
THE SEPTEMBER MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS RELATIONSHIP. MOTION
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
TO GO BACK TO THE POLE BUILDING, CHAIRMAN PALUCH REMARKED
THAT THIS HAD BEEN APPROVED AND MONEY APPROPRIATED BY BOTH
THE AIRPORT BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL SOME MONTHS AGO.
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NEW BUSINESS: (Cont'd.)
C. ALTERNATE PLAN FOR MASTER PLAN
MR. MASTELLER ELABORATED FURTHER ON THE ALTERNATIVE PLAN
INTRODUCED BY MR. EVANS, MENTIONING THAT THIS SHOULD BE
INCLUDED AND EVALUATED IN THE MASTER PLAN. AFTER FURTHER
DISCUSSION, THE FOLLOWING MOTION WAS MADE:
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL BE ADVISED THAT CONSIDERATION OF AN ALTERNATIVE
PLAN FOR THE AIRPORT IS MOOT iN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT THE
FINAL LETTER DATED MAY 23, 1988, HAS BEEN SENT TO THE CON-
SULLTANTS BY THE COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES:
NAYS:
MR. KENNEY
MR. COOPER
MR. AHNEMAN
CHAIRMAN PALUCH
MR. MASTELLER
MR. VAN DE VOORDE
MOTION CARRIED.
1988-89 BUDGET
THE BUDGET WAS DISCUSSED LINE BY LiNE AND A FEW CHANGES
MADE, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT REMAINED THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
IT WAS AGREED TO BUDGET $750. UNDER GENERAL SERVICES FOR
INSTALLATION AND USE OF AN AIRPORT PHONE TO BE LISTED IN
THE PHONE BOOK.
ALSO DISCUSSED AT SOME LENGTH WERE THE VARIOUS ITEMS ON
THE SO-CALLED "WISH LIST".
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:42 P.M.
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VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF PORTION OF MINUTES OF AIRPORT ADVISORY
BOARD MEETING MAY 31~ 1988
MR. COOPER: I REALLY DIDN'T WISH TO ENGAGE IN A PUBLIC DEBATE
ABOUT THIS THING BUT THE WAY I SEE IT, iT'S THE SAME OLD DELAY-
ING TACTIC. i'M SURE MR. MASTELLER AND MR. EVANS KNOW VERY WELL
BECAUSE OF THEIR TRiP UP TO ORLANDO TO SPEAK TO THE FAA THAT WE
WON'T GET ANY FEDERAL FINANCING, AND, IF TRUE, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE
IT ALL OUT OF OUR HIDE. YOU HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN A COUPLE OF EXIST-
ING AIRPORT BUSINESSES OUT THERE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR CONTRACTS.
IT'S A CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE QUIT-CLAIM DEED BECAUSE IT WAS GIVEN
AS AN AIRPORT FORA PUBLIC FACILITY. I'M SURE MR. EVANS AND MR.
MASTELLER ARE VERY WELL AWARE THAT THIS WOULD REQUIRE A COMPLETE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY WHICH WOULD TAKE ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS
WHICH WOULD DELAY IT STILL FURTHER WHICH WOULD SERVE THEIR MOTIVE.
AS A PILOT I ABHOR ANY IDEA OF REDUCING THE SIZE OF RUNWAYS. WE
GOT A COUPLE OF QUEEN AIRS THAT COME IN THERE REPEATEDLY ON BUSINESS
NOW AND I THINK THIS WOULD PROBABLY GIVE THEM A PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD
PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT MORE AND, LASTLY, IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HURT
THE MARKETING OF MR. MASTELLER'S NEW COLLIER PLACE PUD TO CHOP 'OFF
AND SIMPLY CLOSE DOWN 4-22, AND, LASTLY, I HAVE A MOTION AND I'D
LIKE TO MOVE THE CITY COUNCIL BE ADVISED THAT WE CONSIDER THIS
PROPOSAL MOOT IN ViEW OF THE FINAL INSTRUCTIONS SENT TO POST,
BUCKLEY, SCHUH AND JERNIGAN ON MAY 23, 1988 WITH THE APPROVAL OF
THE CITY COUNCIL.
City of Sebastian
POST OFFICE BOX 780127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978
TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330
AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD MEETING
TUESDAY~ MAY 31~ 1988 - 4:0PP.M.
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVE MINUTES OF MEETING OF APRIL 26, 1988, INCLUDING
VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT RE: COLLIER PLACE
4. OPERATING STATEMENT - CASH POSITION FOR PERIOD ENDING 4/30/88
5. PUBLIC INPUT
6. OLD BUSINESS:
A. AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT
7. NEW BUSINESS:
A. CORRESPONDENCE RE: AIRPORT TRAFFIC
B. POLE BUILDING - MR. MASTELLER
C. ALTERNATE PLAN FOR MASTER PLAN - MR. MASTELLER
D. 1988-89 BUDGET
8. ADJOURN
City of Sebastian
POST OFFICE BOX 780127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978
TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330
NOTICE OF MEETING
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
1225 MAIN STREET
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
FLORIDA
The Airport Advisory Board will hold their Regular
Meeting at 4:00 P.M. on Tuesday, May 31, 1988, in
City Council Chambers, 1225 Main Street, Sebastian,
Florida.
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Eiizabdth Reid, Secretary
NOTE: IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE
AT THE ABOVE MEETING, HE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES, HE/SHE MAY NEED TO
ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE,
WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH
THE APPEAL IS BASED.