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POST OFFICE BOX 780127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978
TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330
MINUTES OF MEETING
AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD
AUGUST 30~ 1988 - 4:00 P.M.
MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY CHAIRMAN EDWARD PALUCH AT 4:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
KENNETH MEGUiN
ROGER COOPER
MICHAEL KENNEY
THEODORE AHNEMAN
RENE VAN DE VOORDE (ARRIVED AFTER ROLL CALL)
EDWARD PALUCH, CHAIRMAN
JOHN VAN ANTWERP, EX OFFICIO MEMBER
EARL MASTELLER (EXCUSED)
ROBERT MORROW "
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION BY MR. MEGUIN, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, TO APPROVE THE
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JULY 26, 1988. CARRIED.
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, TO APPROVE THE
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JUNE 28, 1988. CARRIED.
OPERATING STATEMENT FOR PERIOD ENDING 7/31/88 - NO DISCUSSION.
PUBLIC INPUT:
LLOYD RONDEAU, 285 EASY STREET, REMARKED THAT IN THE 1986 PLAN
THE RUNWAYS WERE CONSIDERED TO BE IN FAIR CONDITION. IN THE
LATEST PLAN THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE POOR. HE ADDED THAT
THERE WERE SIMILAR CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE PLAN BUT DID NOT
WISH TO TAKE THE TIME TO POINT THEM OUT. HE STATED THAT HE
BELIEVES THAT IF THE CITIZENS DO NOT GET COOPERATION FROM THE
AIRPORT, THERE WILL NOT BE AN AIRPORT, AND HE DOESN'T WANT
TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
EDWARD GILCHER, MEMBER OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION -
(SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL)- ASKED WHY THE NOISE STUDY RECOM-
MENDED IN THE FIRST PLAN WAS DROPPED FROM THIS ONE. IF IT WAS
REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE COST FACTO.R, HE POINTED OUT THAT THE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION BUDGET HAS AN ITEM WHICH
ALLOCATES $80,000. TO THE SEBASTIAN AIRPORT TO DO A NOISE
STUDY AND SUGGESTED THAT THIS ITEM BE RESTORED TO THE PLAN.
PUBLIC INPUT (CONT'.)
EDWARD GILCHER (CONT'D.) - MR. GILCHER QUESTIONED WHY A NOISE
LEVEL OF 65 LDN WAS USED. ON SITE LAND USE MAP - PAGE 6-7 -
MR. GILCHER CAN'T CORRELATE THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS WITH THE
CITY'S INDUSTRIAL AND AIRPORT INDUSTRIAL ZONING WHICH ARE NOT
INDICATED.
OLD BUSINESS:
A. AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT:
MR. VAN ANTWERP REPORTED THAT 95% OF THE MOWING IS COMPLETED.
THE HERBICIDE PROGRAM HAS ALSO BEEN COMPLETED.
MR. VAN ANTWERP HAS RESEARCHED ORDINANCES WITH REFERENCE TO
TALL TOWERS. STATE LAWS HAVE RECENTLY BEEN ENACTED TO EN-
SURE THAT PART 77 OF FAA LAWS ARE COMPLIED WITH. IF A COM-
MUNITY HAS ITS OWN ORDINANCE, THEY RESERVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE
SURE IT COMPLIES. STATE CONTROLS TALL TOWERS, BUT LOCAL
ORDINANCES CAN CONTROL OTHER ASPECTS SUCH AS ZONING, OR A
RADIUS AROUND WHICH YOU CAN'T HAVE AN OCCUPIED BUILDING.
HE MENTIONED THAT INDIAN RIVER COUNTY HAS A GOOD ORDINANCE.
THE BOARD REQUESTED THAT A COPY BE OBTAINED AS WELL AS A
COPY OF PART 77 AND THIS ITEM BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR
THE NEXT MEETING.
MR. VAN ANTWERP STATED THAT FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT IS NOT
INTERESTED IN PUTTING UP POLES AND LIGHTS TO ILLUI~INATE THE
PUBLIC PARKING AREA. THEY WILL REBATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
MONEY PER KILOWATT THAT IS BURNED WHICH WILL BE A ONE PAY-
MENT DEAL BETWEEN $500.-1000.
· ,MEETING
MR. VAN ANTWERP ATTENDED A AIRPORT MANAGERS'tIN SARASOTA
AND DISTRIBUTED VARIOUS DOCUMENTS INCLUDING A BROCHURE
SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT ONE TIME RELATIVE TO
PROMOTING THE AIRPORT AND ALSO A GLOSSARY OF AVIATION TERMS.
MR. COOPER STATED THAT ESTIMATES SHOULD BE OBTAINED TO GET THE
LIGHTING DONE AND MR. VAN ANTWERP ADVISED THAT HE HAS BEEN TALK-
ING TO VARIOUS CONTRACTORS. MR. VAN ANTWERP WAS REQUESTED TO
BRING BACK SOME ESTIMATES TO THE NEXT MEETING.
LEASE - J & S AVIATION:
MR. VAN ANTWERP, SPEAKING AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BUSI-
NESS, NOT AS THE AIRPORT MANAGER, REQUESTED THAT THE BOARD
CONSIDER RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL THAT THE LEASE BE APPROVED
AS SOON AS THE MORATORIUM IS LIFTED.
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, TO RECOMMEND
TO COUNCIL THAT THE LEASE BE GIVEN FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION
UPON LIFTING OF THE MORATORIUM, SUBJECT TO TERMS TO BE
DETERMINED AT A LATER DATE.
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6. OLD BUSINESS (CONT.D)
LEASE - J & S AVIATION (CONT'D.):
THERE FOLLOWED A DISCUSSION RELATIVE TO THE TERMS OF THE
LEASE AND WHILE THE BOARD FAVORED THE LEASING OF 1-1/2
ACRES FOR THE BUILDING OF HANGARS, THEY FELT THEY DID NOT
HAVE ANY CRITERIA ON ~{ICH TO BASE THE FIGURES. IT WAS
MENTIONED THAT IT WAS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS SUP-
POSED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MASTER PLAN. IT WAS THE CON-
SENSUS OF THE BOARD THAT WHILE THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THE
LEASE IN PRINCIPLE, TO APPROVE THE MOTION WOULD MAKE IT
APPEAR THAT THEY APPROVED THE LEASE AS IT STANDS WHICH
THEY FELT THEY COULD NOT DO AT THIS TIME. THE MOTION WAS
NOT ACTED UPON. THIS ITEM WILL BE PLACED ON NEXT MONTH'S
AGENDA.
MASTER PLAN:
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, THAT A COPY
OF THE QUIT CLAIM DEED BE INCLUDED IN THE BACK OF THE
MASTER PLAN WITH THE OTHER DOCUMENTS. CARRIED.
PAGE 1-7 - TAXIWAYS - MR. COOPER STATED THE ORIGINAL PLAN
HAD A STATEMENT RELATIVE TO THE CONDITION OF THE TAXIWAYS.
THIS PLAN DOES NOT. ALSO THE PLAN CALLS FOR RE-SURFACING
OF RUNWAYS, BUT NOT TAXIWAYS.
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, THAT RE-SURFACING
OF THE TAXIWAYS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN. CARRIED.
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, THAT THE
CONDITION OF THE TAXIWAYS SHOULD BE STATED. CARRIED.
PAGE 4-5 - AUTOMOBILE PARKING REQUIREMENTS - MR. COOPER
POINTED OUT THAT IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN THE PARKING WAS TERMED
VERY INADEQUATE WITH 1000 SQUARE YARDS AND 30 SPACES.
THIS PLAN HAS 3000 SQUARE YARDS AND 84 SPACES AND NOTHING
NEW HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, THAT THE
CONSULTANTS BE ASKED TO CLARIFY THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN
THE TWO PLANS RELATIVE TO AUTOMOBILE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
CARRIED.
PAGE 7-3 - COST ESTIMATES - MR. COOPER STATED THERE ARE
ENORMOUS DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE FIGURES IN THE PLAN AND
FIGURES THAT HAVE BEEN OBTAINED LOCALLY. FOR EXAMPLE,
RUNWAY LIGHTING SYSTEM - $84,000. LOCALLY - $15,000.
CONSTRUCT WEST SIDE ACCESS ROAD - $200,000. LOCALLY - $42,000.
BASED ON THESE FIGURES, THE COST FOR PHASE I WOULD USE UP
ALL THE MONEY. IT WAS ALSO POINTED OUT THAT FUNDING FOR
PHASE I IS ESTIMATED AT $1,311,600. RESULTING IN A DEBT
SERVICE OF $1,766.255. MR. VAN ANTWERP WAS ASKED TO TALK
TO THE CONSULTANTS ABOUT THESE FIGURES.
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OLD BUSINESS (CONT'D.)
C. MASTER PLAN (CONT'D.):
WITH REFERENCE TO THE IIOISE STUDY, MR. i~cCLARY ADVISED THAT
THE CONSULTANTS WERE REQUESTED TO GIVE A COST ESTIMATE ON
A NOISE STUDY. THEY RESPONDED THAT THEY DON'T DO NOISE
STUDIES AND PROVIDED THE NAME OF ANOTHER CONSULTANT TO GET A PRICE.
MR. VAN ANTWERP ADVISED THAT WHILE THE CITY HAS A NOISE
ORDINANCE, MR. PALMER, THE FORMER CITY ATTORNEY, HAD STATED
THAT AIRCRAFT NOISE DOES NOT COME UNDER THIS. MR. VAN ANTWERP
EXPLAINED THAT THE NOISE STUDY MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR A GRANT.
THERE IS $80,000. ALLOTTED IN THE 5 YEAR PLAN OF FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WHICH THEY WILL SHARE WITH US.
WITH A 150 STUDY UNDER THE FAA AN ORDINANCE COULD CONTROL
iN FLIGHT ROUTES, PATHS, PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW - AN ENFORCE-
ABLE ORDINANCE. HE ADDED THAT ALMOST EVERY AIRPORT HAS A
NOISE ABATEMENT ORDINANCE. THE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY HAD THIS
IN THE PLAN WITH DIRECTION TO STUDY FEASIBILITY AND COST.
IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR A SMALL AIRPORT TO HAVE SUCH A STUDY.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN'T CHANGE TAKE OFF AND LANDING NOISE. YOU CAN
CHANGE ROUTES AND ALLEVIATE LOCAL CONDITIONS WHICH WOULD
PROMOTE GOOD PUBLIC RELATIONS.
MOTION BY MR. VAN DE VOORDE, SECONDED BY MR. COOPER, TO
RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT A NOISE STUDY BE MADE.
CARRIED.
IT WAS AGREED THAT DISCUSSION ON THE MASTER PLAN WOULD
BE CONTINUED AT THE NEXT MEETING.
MR. KENNEY SUGGESTED THAT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A
MEETING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN VIEW OF
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AIRPORT AREA. MR.
GILCHER WAS REQUESTED TO CARRY THAT MESSAGE TO THE PLAN-
NING AND ZONING COMMISSION AT THEIR NEXT MEETING.
NEW BUSINESS
A. 1988-89 BUDGET REVISION
MR. VAN ANTWERP ADVISED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED
INPUT ON BUDGETING $59,000. TO DO AN ENGINEERING STUDY FOR
THE OVERLAY AND LIGHTING ON RUNWAY 4/22. WE ARE ELIGIBLE
IN THE STATE'S PLAN FOR 90% OF THAT. IF WE HAVE PLANS
AND SPECIFICATIONS IN HAND, IT WOULD SPEED UP THE STATE'S
APPROVAL OF THE PLAN.
MOTION BY MR. COOPER, SECONDED BY MR. KENNEY, THAT $59,000.
BE BUDGETED THIS YEAR FOR AN ENGINEERING STUDY REGARDING
OVERLAY AND LIGHTING FOR RUNWAY 4/22. CARRIED.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:45 P.M.
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City of Sebastian
POST OFFICE BOX 780127 n SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978
TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330
AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD MEETING
TUESDAY~ AUGUST 30~ 1988 - 4:00 P.M.
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
3. APPROVE MINUTES OF MEETINGS OF JUNE 28 AND JULY 26
4. OPERATING STATEMENT FOR PERIOD ENDING 7/31/88
5. PUBLIC INPUT
6. OLD BUSINESS:
A. AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT
B. LEASE - J & S AVIATION
C. MASTER PLAN
7. NEW BUSINESS:
A. 1988-89 BUDGET REVISION
8. ADJOURN
City of Sebastian
POST OFFICE BOX 780127 [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32978
TELEPHONE (407) 589-5330
NOTICE OF MEETING
AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD
TUESDAY, AUGUST 30, 1988 - 4:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
The Airport Advisory Board will hold their Regular Meeting
in City Council Chambers on Tuesday, August 30, 1988,
at 4:00 P.M.
Ail interested parties are invited to attend.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE AT THE
ABOVE MEETING WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED WILL
NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE
THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH
RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE
APPEAL IS TO BE HEARD.