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SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
WORKSHOP
WEDNESDAY, JULY 16,2003 - 7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
PURPOSE:
DISCUSS USE OF YACHT CLUB RAMP/CAVCORP PROPERTY
FINALIZE DISCUSSION ON PARK USE
Mayor Barnes called the workshop to order at 7:00 p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
ROLL CALL
City Council Present:
Mayor Walter Barnes
Vice-Mayor Raymond Coniglio
Councilmember Joe Barczyk
Councilmember James Hill
Councilmember Nathan McCollum
Staff Present:
City Manager, Terrence Moore
City Attorney, Rich Stringer
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Deputy City Clerk, Jeanette Williams
Public Works Director, Terry Hill
Parks Supervisor, Chris McCarthy
City Council Workshop
July 16, 2003
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WORKSHOP ITEMS
Discuss Use of Yacht Club Ramp/Cavcorp Property and Finalize Discussion on Park
Use If Necessary
A lengthy discussion took place on the following issues relating to park use:
· sale of handmade goods vs. manufactured goods
· suggestion that if current rules of procedure are utilized, Council can make appropriate
decisions
· advice from the City Attorney that "flea markets" are currently allowed only as conditional
uses in industrial zoning
· establishing a policy whereby use of vendors at events in the park precipitates taking a
request to Council
· limiting requests for permits appearing before City Council
· basing permit fees on what is being brought into the park
· conflicts with more than one event taking place at the same time
· using vendors as the catalyst, despite the numbers, and in that case those items can be
placed on the consent agenda, and if Council had a problem, they could pull it for
discussion
· City Attorney advice that permit fees are based on administrative review of the
application and are not user fees, and that impact costs should be negotiated separately
· City Attorney suggestion that if the number 300 does not seem like a good breaking
point it can be changed, or that fees can be based on review.
· concerns about discrimination issues in deciding who can and cannot use the park
· organizations such as the Art Club who have been conducting shows in the park for
many years, their benefit to the community, and the fact that they do not impact city staff
· recommendation to come up with a list of non-profits in Indian River County and giving
those groups who do not impact the City a break on the application fee
· suggestion that if the City Manager determines a use would not cause problems he
could waive the fee
· City Attorney advice that there is currently a rule that non-profits are charged half fees
for use of Yacht Club/Community Center, and if considering waiving the administrative
charge, it should be determined that the use benefits the citizens of Sebastian, and grant
issues probably would not come into play.
· recommendation to consider defining cultural and charitable organizations and the
benefit of the event to the city and defining them in the code
· City Attorney advice that including churches in general would get into church and state
questions, thus the importance of looking at the fundraiser purpose
· current policy governing use of police officers at Community Center and Yacht Club
functions and recommendation to simply have an attendant
· Use of city parks other than Riverview for events
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City Council Workshop
July 16, 2003
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The following members of the public addressed Council:
Louise Kautenberg, suggested using other parks for events
Alice Russell, Sebastian River Art Club, thanked Council for consideration of waivers
Damian Gilliams, suggested that adjacent businesses be notified by phone or letter if streets are
going to be closed for events prior to action being taken.
Mr. Hill agreed that there would be no harm in notifying property owners that roads are being
considered for closure.
Yacht Club Ramp/Cavcorp Property
A lengthy discussion took place on the following issues relating to Yacht Club ramp and
Cavcorp property use:
· Parking conflicts with fishing tournaments and other permitted events, and the need to
clear fishing tournaments with the City first
· the current code requirement for a special event permit for fishing tournaments, and
advice from the City Attorney that the language may have to be made more specific
· suggestion that if staff is checking to see if there are any other events this could ease
some of the problem
· the need for police or other official presence at the Yacht Club ramp on weekends to
keep the peace because rules are being ignored
· advice from the City Attorney that Council cannot impose a charge for parking at
Cavcorp or use of the Yacht Club ramp due to grant issues, but could implement a boat
sticker policy
· request to research yacht club ramp funding based on discussions he recalls from the
1980s.
· concurrence by the Council to reduce allowable docking time from one hour to fifteen
minutes
· suggestion that parking on the east side of Riverview Park be limited
· suggestion to use a dockmaster or other city employee
° consideration in the future for overnight docking which would require part-time help.
City Council Workshop
July 16, 2003
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The following members of the public addressed City Council:
Fred Clemente, Easy Street, asked what department handles permits for tournaments and was
informed it was Growth Management Department. He said it seems like people are getting lax.
He suggested a dockmaster be used at the Yacht Club ramp.
Dennis O'Hara, Georgia Boulevard, agreed with a permit for a fishing tournament and
suggested that when receiving a permit, the permittee would be issued enough stickers for the
tournament participants. He said he supports a sticker policy.
Lonnie Powell, Maple Street, said the City considered stickers twelve years ago and for several
years. He said he would like to see boaters pay to fund needed personnel or programs.
Louise Kautenberg, discussed regular car parking in the Cavcorp property and said it was time
to regulate it.
Damian Gilliams objected to a private marina business having to obtain a special events permit
for a fishing tournament, and recommended studying the issue more.
Fred Clemente, Easy Street, said all special events should have permits, and parking use
should require permits.
4. Being no further business, Mayor Barnes adjourned the Workshop at 8:50 p.m.
Approved at the August 13, 2003 Regular City Council Meeting.
Walter W. Barnes, Mayor
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