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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08131996CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE SPECIAL MEETING AUGUST 13, 1996, 4:00 P.M. THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY CHAIRPERSON RUTH SULLIVAN AT 4:00 P.M. ROLL CALL: PRESENT: CHAIRPERSON SULLIVAN MR. REID VICECHAIRPERSON DABROWSKI MR. KRULIKOWSKI MR. DONINI ALSO PRESENT: ROBERT MASSARELLI, CITY PLANNER MINUTES: A MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. DONINI, SECONDED BY VICECHAIRPERSON DABROWSKI TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JULY 23, 1996. VOICE VOTE, 5-0 MOTION CARRIED. OLD BUSINESS: NONE NEW BUSINESS: CHAIRPERSON SULLIVAN STATED THAT THE INDIAN RIVER PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION HELD A MEETING ON AUGUST 3, 1996 CONCERNING A NUMBER OF ISSUES REGARDING THE WATERFRONT. SHE PASSED OUT COPIES OF THE CONCERNS TO THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SO THEY COULD SEE THE POSITIONS TAKEN BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA. THE FIRST POSITION WAS TO DEVELOP A STANDARD SIZE BIKEPATH ONLY WITH A MINIMUM OF 6 FEET WIDTH ALONG THE EAST EDGE OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE TO PROTECT EXISTING HOME AND BUSINESS PARKING AND TO AVOID ESTABLISHING LEGAL LIABILITY FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. THE REASON FOR THIS POSITION TAKEN IS TO ELIMINATE THE 10 FOOT WIDE SETBACK FROM THE ROAD EDGE REQUIRED FOR THE PROPOSED 8 FOOT WIDE WALKWAY. THIS PROPOSAL RESULTS IN AN 18 FOOT WIDE DEVELOPMENT OF RIVERFRONT LAND THAT WOULD DEPRIVE BUSINESS OWNERS OF NEEDED PARKING AND DELIVERY SERVICES, WHICH IS A GRANDFATHERED iN USE. IT WOULD ALSO BRING THE PROPOSED WALKWAY WITHIN INCHES OF THE FRONT DOORS OF HISTORICAL HOMES AND BUSINESSES WHILE DESTROYING LANDSCAPING, MATURE TREES AND AN UNUSUAL STAND OF BAMBOO. THE SECOND POSITION TAKEN WAS THAT PARK BENCHES AND OTHER PUBLIC USE EQUIPMENT BE BUILT AND INSTALLED ON PUBLIC PARK LAND ONLY TO AVOID CREATING POTENTIAL LEGAL LIABILITY FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. THE REASON FOR THIS POSITION IS THAT THERE ARE TWO PUBLIC PARKS ALONG THE RIVER, MAIN STREET BOAT RAMP & RIVERVIEW PARK, AND ADDITIONAL BENCHES COULD BE ADDED AT THESE LOCATIONS. THERE WAS A THIRD POTENTIAL 150 CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE MEETING OF AUGUST 13, 1996 PAGE 2 FT. pARK ALONG THE RIVER'BETWEEN THE PELICAN PUB AND 1302 INDIAN RIVER DRIVE THAT COULD BE CLEARED AND HAVE PARK BENCHES INSTALLED. THE ASSOCIATION'S POSITION IS THAT NEW DECORATIVE STREET LIGHTING SHOULD BE ON THE POLES ALONG THE EAST BORDER OF THE RECOMMENDED BIKEPATH PLACED SO THEY DO NOT INTERFERE WITH ACCESS TO HOMES AND BUSINESSES. THE REASON FOR THIS POSITION IS THE NEW STREET LIGHTING WOULD BE AN ADDED SAFETY FACTOR BUT IS NOT TO REPLACE EXISTING STREET LIGHTS OR PROPER MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING LIGHTING ON PUBLIC PIERS. THE ASSOCIATION'S POSITION IS THAT BOAT RAMPS AND FISHING PIERS BE IMPROVED. THE REASON FOR THIS POSITION IS THAT THE EXISTING BOAT RAMPS ARE BEING ALLOWED TO SILT OVER AND MAKING USE OF THE RAMPS MORE DIFFICULT. THE ASSOCIATION'S POSITION IS THAT THE CITY LOOK INTO DEVELOPING A THIRD BOAT RAMP FOR PUBLIC USE WITH BOAT TRAILER PARKING USING GRANT FUNDS. THE ASSOCIATION'S POSITION IS THAT PARKING FOR INDIAN RIVER DRIVE OLDER HOMES AND BUSINESSES BUILT WITHOUT SUFFICIENT SETBACKS AND FOR THE SEBASTIAN HIGHLANDS AT THE SEBASTIAN YACHT CLUB BE GRANDFATHERED IN TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS. IN A GENERAL DISCUSSION THE ASSOCIATION AGREED THAT THE CAV- CORP PROPERTY BE LEFT IN iTS NATURAL STATE FOR CONTINUED USE OF BOAT TRAILER PARKING AND USED BY LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. THE ASSOCIATION SUGGESTED iNSTALLING SPEED BUMPS ALONG THE LENGTH OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE TO CONTROL TRAFFIC. CHAIRPERSON SULLIVAN STATED THESE POSITIONS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THIS COMMITTEE ON WORKING ON GRANTS. A. DISCUSSION OF RIVERFRONT SIDEWALK DESIGN MR. REID STATED HE WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE DIRECTION IN WHICH WE ARE GOING. WE HAVE A RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY GETTING INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN. WHEN THEY SAW THE BIKEPATH ALONG INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, THEY HAD PROBLEMS WITH IT AND IN HIS OPINION RIGHTFULLY SO. WIDENING INDIAN RIVER DRIVE DOES NOT GO ALONG WITH MAKING THE RIVERFRONT AN OLD FISHING VILLAGE THEME. HE STATED AS FAR AS HE IS CONCERNED MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON A SIDEWALK IS NOT THE CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE'S CHARTER. THE CITY ALREADY HAS A COMMITTEE CALLED THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE SIDEWALK. HE THINKS WE ARE STARTING TO CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE MEETING OF AUGUST 13, 1996 PAGE 3 MUDDY THE' WATER ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. HE WANTED CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS SUPPOSE TO BE DOING AND WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE. MR. KRULIKOWSKI STATED BEFORE THE BOARD GOES ANY FURTHER, THE BOARD SHOULD REQUEST MR. FRAME OR THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE AT THEIR MEETING SO THE BOARD KNOWS WHAT DIRECTION TO FOLLOW AND WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE DOING. CHAIRPERSON RUTH SULLIVAN STATED TO CLARIFY THE COMMITTEE'S SITUATION AND POSITION AND AUTHORITY, WE CAN QUOTE FROM MR. JOHNSON'S PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD AT THE LAST MEETING. THE RESPONSIBILITY #2 WAS TO ADDRESS CITIZEN'S COMPLAINTS REGARDING USE OF GRANTS, #3 WAS REVIEW PROJECT DESIGN REVISIONS NECESSARY DURING PROJECT. SHE FEELS IT PUTS THIS COMMITTEE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF DECIDING WHAT IS GOING TO BE ON ANY GRANT USE. MR. MASSARELLI STATED THAT THE F.D.O.T. MONEY FOR THE WALKWAY IS NOT GRANT MONEY. D.O.T. WILL DO ANYTHING THE PEOPLE OF SEBASTIAN WANT FOR THE WALKWAY. MR. DONINI FEELS THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE SHOULD HANDLE THIS PROJECT. HE FEELS IF BOTH COMMITTEES DISCUSS THE WALKWAY DESIGN, PEOPLE WILL BE REPEATING THEMSELVES AT THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE MEETING AND COME UP WITH TWO OR THREE CONCLUSIONS AND NOTHING WILL BE DONE. ALSO, THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE'S MEETING. HE FEELS IT WOULD BE COUNTER PRODUCTIVE FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT THE SIDEWALK IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. CHAIRPERSON SULLIVAN DID NOT AGREE WITH MR. DONINI. SHE FEELS THE MORE INPUT THERE IS ON THE WALKWAY, THE BETTER IT WOULD BE. MR. REID STATED THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE WAS ORGANIZED TO DETERMINE WHAT SHOULD BE ON THE RIVERFRONT AND THEY SHOULD BE THE COMMITTEE THAT SHOULD BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE WALKWAY. HE FEELS THIS COMMITTEE WAS ORGANIZED SO THE CITY COULD RECEIVE GRANT MONEY AND NOTHING WAS SAID THAT WE WOULD BE AN ADVISORY GROUP TO THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE. MR. KRULIKOWSKI ASKED IF THE CITY IS STILL LOOKING TO THE CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE TO COMMENT ON D.O.T.'S PROJECT. MR. MASSARELLI STATED THERE ARE NO LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BOARD'S INPUT AND NOTHING IN CITY POLICY. THE BOARD'S LACK OF INPUT WILL NOT STOP THIS PROJECT. CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE MEETING OF AUGUST 13, 1996 PAGE 4 MR. KRULIKOWSKI ASKED MR. MASSARELLI ABOUT THE MONEY GRANTED BY F.D.O.T.. MR. MASSARELLI STATED THE MONEY IS NOT A LOAN AND THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO MATCH THE FUNDS. MR. REID ASKED MR. MASSARELLI IF WE MOVED A WALKWAY AROUND BAMBOO TO ACCOMMODATE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DELAYING THIS PROJECT FOR ABOUT 1 YEAR. MR. MASSARELLI STATED F.D.O.T HAS INDICATED THAT THE DESIGN MUST STAY ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR iT COULD CAUSE A DELAY. A MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. REID, SECONDED BY MR. KRULIKOWSKI TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION BY MR. MASSARELLI AND THEN MAKE A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. VOICE VOTE, 5-0, MOTION CARRIED. AFTER LISTENING TO MR. MASSARELLI'S PRESENTATION, A MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. REID, SECONDED BY MR. DONINI TO RECOMMEND TO THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE THAT WE GO WITH THE PRESENTATION AS PRESENTED BUT INCLUDING GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE OAK TREE. CHAIRPERSON SULLIVAN WOULD HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST IT IF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD SEND THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE RIVERFRONT COMMITTEE. ***THE CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE IS A LEGAL ENTITY REQUIRED TO PROCESS GRANT DECISIONS WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. SHE FEELS THE CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AN AMENDED MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. REID THAT THIS COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PLAN FOR THE RIVERFRONT SIDEWALK AS PRESENTED BY CITY STAFF WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IT BE EXTENDED TO THE END OF THE CITY LIMITS. MR. DONINI SECONDED THIS AMENDED MOTION. MR. KRULIKOWSKI ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL LOOK AT THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK. CHAIRPERSON MRS. SULLIVAN SAID SHE COULD NOT VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE SHE FELT THE PROPOSAL WOULD DESTROY THE AMBIANCE OF THE OLD FLORIDA-STYLE FISHING VILLAGE THEME SOUGHT FOR THE RIVERFRONT. VOICE VOTE WAS TAKEN, 4-1, MOTION CARRIED. CHAIRPERSON SULLIVAN CAST THE DISSENTING VOTE. PUBLIC INPUT: A RESIDENT FROM THE AUDIENCE ASKED WHY NOT HAVE SIDEWALK ON WESTSIDE OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE INSTEAD OF THE EASTSIDE. C~'TI~.~N ADVZSORY ~ASK FORC~ M~E~'~NG OF AUGUS~ 't3, '1996 PAGE 5 CHAIRMAN'S MATTERS: CHAIRPERSON MRS. SULLIVAN COMMENDED MR" MASSARELLI ON THE GOOD JOB HE IS DOING PREPARING THIS COMMITTEE AND WORKING WITH OTHER COMMITTEES AS WELL TO KEEP PEOPLE INFORMED OF ALL THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL THEY NEED TO DO A PROPER AND INTELLIGENT JOB FOR THE COMMUNITY. SHE ALSO ASKED IF MR. JOHNSON COULD SUPPLY THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WITH THE METHODS OF EARNING POINTS TO WIN GRANTS. MEMBERS' MATTERS: NONE STAFF MATTERS: MR. MASSARELLI STATED IN TWO WEEKS WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING AND AT THAT TIME HOPEFULLY HE WILL BE DONE NEGOTIATING THE SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR THE ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK AND WILL BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION AND RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. WE WILL GET INTO THE DISCUSSION OF THE DESIGN RELATING TO THE PARKING OF THE CAV-CORP PROPERTY DURING THE OCTOBER MEETING. ADJOURN: A MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. KRULIKOWSKI, SECONDED BY MR. DONINI TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 5:45 P.M. VOICE VOTE TAKEN, 5-0, CARRIED. CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE MINUTES OF MEETING HELD RUTH suLLIVAN'," '~HAIRPERSON BES, SECRETARY CATFMIN.DOC City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET [] SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 · TELEPHONE (561) 589-5330 g FAX (561) 589-5570 AGENDA CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 1996 4:00 P.M. 1. CALL TO ORDER 2. ROLL CALL 3. MINUTES: APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JULY 23, 1996 4. OLD BUSINESS: 5. NEW BUSINESS: A. DISCUSSION OF RIVERFRONT SIDEWALK DESIGN' 6. PUBLIC INPUT: 7. CHAIRMAN'S MATTERS: 8. MEMBERS' MATTERS: 9. STAFF MATTERS: 10. ADJOURN: NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WiTH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. CATF.DOC City of Sebastian 1225 MAIN STREET a SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA 32958 TELEPHONE (561) 589-5330 u FAX (561) 589-5570 PUBLIC MEETING CIT~ OF SEBASTIAN 1225 MAIN STREET INDIAN RIVER COUNT~ FLORIDA THE CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, WILL HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 1996 AT 4:00 P.M. IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. · GERRY KU ES, SECRETARY NOTE: IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON THE ABOVE MATTERS, HE/SHE WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES, HE/SHE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED. NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WiTH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.