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AGENDA
CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE
MONDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1998
3:00 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. ROLL CALL:
4. MINUTES:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR REGULAR MEETING OF 6/10/98
5. OLD BUSINESS:
6. NEW BUSINESS:
A. DISCUSSION OF LIGHT POLE LOCATIONS
B. DISCUSSION OF DRIVEWAYS ON CAV CORP PROPERTY
7. PUBLIC iNPUT:
8. CHAIRMAN'S MATTERS:
9. MEMBERS MATTERS:
10. STAFF MATTERS:
11. ADJOURN:
NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE
WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE
CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
TWO OR MORE ELECTED OFFICIALS MAY BE IN ATTENDANCE.
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City of Sebastian
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PUBLIC MEETING
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
1225 MAIN STREET
INDIAN RIVER COUNTY
FLORIDA
THE CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, WiLL HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1998, AT 3:00 P.M. IN THE
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
GERRY KI~ES, SECRETARY
ANN BP.ACK, RECORDING SECRETARY
CITITI~,N ADVISORY TASK FORCE
'NOTE: IF ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE ON TIlE ABOVE MATTERS,
HE/SIr[E WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES, HE/SHE MAY
NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD
INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY IN EVIDENCE ON WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED.
NOTE: IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILiTIF-S ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO
NEEDS A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA
COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST 48 HOU'RS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. TWO OR MORE
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY BE IN ATTENDANCE OF THIS MEETING.
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CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD
APPROVED AT MEETING HELD
~VI~~ D~ROWTi' CHAiRI~ERSON
ANN BRACK, RECORDING SECRETARY
GERRY KUBES, SECRETARY
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
CITIZEN ADVISORY TASK FORCE BOARD
MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING
OCTOBER 19, 1998
Chnm Dabrowski called the meeting to order at 3:10 pm.
The Pledge of Allegiance was said.
ROLL CALL: PRESENT:
Thomas Connelly
Chmn. Dabrowski
Cindy Lou Dierkes(a)
Anthony Donini
Salvatore Neglia
Chuck Neuberger(a)
EXCUSED ABSENCE: George Reid
ALSO PRESENT:
Tracy Hass, Growth Management Director
Ann Brack, Recording Secretary
(Mr. Thomas Frame, City Manager, and Ms. Martha Campbell, City Engineer were also in
attendance.)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
(6/10/98)
Mr. Donini noted that on page 2 of the minutes of 6/10/98, sixth paragraph, there was a typo error
on the remainder balance, and his figures did not match those of the minutes. His figures were
$435,550 for the contract amount, and $37, 658 for the contingency amount, which agreed with
Joe Miller's letter of May 12.
MOTON by Cormelly/Donini
I move we accept the minutes of June 10, 1998 meeting as amended.
A voice vote was taken. 5 - 0 motion carried.
The secretary noted that an alternate member would be voting today, and it needed to be
established who would fill that role. Mr. Neuberger (Councilman and CATF Board member) was
chosen to vote, and he expressed his desire that Cindy Dierkes be allowed to vote in place of
George Reid. A consensus of Board members agreed with this decision.
NEW BUSINESS:
A. DISCUSSION OF LIGHT POLE LOCATIONS on Indian River Drive.
Mr. Joe Miller from CRA Engineering was present. He noted that also present are Bud Clarke,
Pres. of CRA Engineering and Pres. of CRA Consulting, Frank Shannon, Electrical Engineer,
Frank Dooner, job inspector, and Ryan Herold, Project Manager for Ranger Construction. He
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also noted that a representative from TADCO electric is not present at this time.
Mr. Miller proceeded to give information on several issues that were called to his attention the
previous week, such as:
1. a coupling not being used in the flexible conduit connection to the pvc conduit;
2. conduit at boardwalk was not buried;
3. contractor not observing instructions for placing the prismatic lenses towards the
correct direction;
4. a piece of boardwalk was damaged;
5. they were using oversize wire going up the pole.
He indicated that he sent a memo to the contractor on October 12, 1998, stating what these
shortcomings were and noted that the last four issues were immediately addressed by the
contractor. He then noted that the contractor will put in the coupling that is required between the
flexible conduit and the pvc, and summarized by noting that the above five issues are behind us,
either corrected or irt the process of being corrected. He also noted that Frank Dooner, the
inspector, will inspect every pole that is corrected.
Mr. Miller then spoke about the issue of 240 volts versus 480 volts. He noted that the lighting
project is designed to use 240 volts, and the decision to use 240 volts was made by the electrical
Engineer, Frank Shannon, himself, and FPL when they met at the site. He also explained that this
decision was reached because 240 volts was readily available on Indian River Drive, and 480
volts was not, and he has since verified this with FPL. It would also cost more money with 480
volts.
He spoke on another issue, lights deleted. He noted that the contract called for eighty-six lights,
but he also noted that a couple of them could not be placed where originally designated, and two
lights were designated for Fellsmere Rd. next to the park. It was also suggested to do a change
order and purchase one more light to be included on Fellsmere Rd.
He then indicated that copies of the plan have been provided to the City of Sebastian throughout
this process. He noted that copies were not specifically mailed to this Task Force, however, he
believed he was in compliance, and new copies were given to the City Planner.
On the adjustment of the lights, Mr. Miller indicated that during his visit on August 27~ and 28e',
he studied the lights as staked out by the surveyor, and determined that some lights needed to be
adjusted. He then handed out a lighting layout and explained which ones were adjusted and why.
He then invited questions from the Task Force members.
After some discussion, Mr. Miller indicated that once the project was under way, he felt that
some adjustments would have to be made, and at no time was he trying to not keep the task force
informed.
Mr. Neglia commented that he thought it was the City's responsibility to keep this Task Force
informed about changes, etc.
Mr. Neuberger started a discussion on the electrical system for these lights. He also noted the
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change from fiberglass fixtures to aluminum, and the change from high-pressure sodium lights to
metal halo (?) lights. He noted that he corrected it at an earlier City Council meeting in going
over the bid documents.
There was continued discussion about the items that are in the bid versus the decisions made by
the Citizen Advisory Task Force. There didn't seem to be any knowledge of when the changes
were made, as Mr. Miller gave information about specifying high-pressure sodium in the plans
after a CATF meeting which included Russ Lowe of Halophane Lighting. He noted that the next
set of plans that came out had the high-pressure sodium lights and changes to aluminum poles on
it.
The issue of the City having a qualified employee to maintain this lighting system was discussed.
Mr. Miller noted that Mr. Neuberger did not have the latest set of plans. He also noted that they
changed to the aluminum pole after the bid, and corrected the high-pressure sodium a~er the bid.
He indicated that the latest drawing does not have the realignment of the road, has the corrections
on the aluminum pole and the high-pressure sodium, which were made after the last Task Force
meeting. R was determined that City Council eliminated the road realignment because of
funding.
Mr. Connelly commented that it was hard to recognize this project as a product of this
Committee. He noted that he was not in favor of using 240 volts on this system.
Mr. Frank Shannon, Electrical Engineer, gave a presentation on the electrical voltage, etc., and
discussed this issue at length with Mr. Neuberger.
Mr. Frank Dooner spoke on the above issue. It was determined that the change to 240 volts was
more or less determined by the power company.
Mr. Neuberger then noted that the pole lights are too close to the road. There was discussion on
this issue.
Mr. Miller noted that FDOT will have to move some fireplugs and take out a couple of trees for
the sidewalk.
Mr. Neuberger mentioned the issue of staggering the lights, and other determinations that were
made by this Task Force, that didn't seem to be continued over into the bid documents.
There was discussion on the sidewalk placement in front of the Philley Eatery and GJ's Saloon.
Mr. Frame noted that FDOT indicated to him that some modifications could be made at the time
of installation of the sidewalk. Mr. Miller noted that he would get together with Mr. Frame and
go over the plans for this area.
Mr. Neuberger referred to the minutes of May 27th, and he read Mr. Massarelli's summary of
"sodium lamps, enough spacing for uniform lighting for safety, staggered pattern, and style of
lighting". He also referred to minutes from the August 20~ meeting, noting that Mr. Stouts
indicated that "... CATF is required by DCA for this grant, and it be involved in the application
process and involved when, and if, significant amendments to the contract occur".
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Mr. Bud Clark of CRA was present, and indicated that the CATF is advisory only to City
Council, under CDBG. He noted that if the City wants something else done, the City needs to
instruct them. He also reminded members that this project started with a parking area and some
lights in the Fall or Smmner of 1996, but it has changed dramatically to lights and somewhat of a
parking lot. He noted that the parking lot has also changed from the original drawings.
It was established that there are no electricians presently on the payroll with the City who could
be trained to maintain these lights.
Mr. Frame spoke on not being notified of the above issues till staff finally informed him.
Mr. Cormelly commented that because this Task Force worked so long and hard to make
recommendations on this project, they should have been informed about what was taking place.
He indicated that there seems to be a problem between this Task Force and staff. He noted that
the changes were not passed on to the Task Force, who were trying to give the people what they
wanted.
Mr. Neuberger asked who was responsible for the sign on this project at the comer of Fellsmere
Road and Indian River Drive. Mr. Neuberger pointed out that his name is horribly misspelled.
B. DISCUSSION OF DRIVEWAYS ON CAV CORP PROPERTY
Mr. Neglia noted that the three driveway entrances on each side of the CAV Corp property were
approved by this Task Force, so there is nothing to discuss.
Mr. Miller asked if he was free to proceed with the alignment of the lights. After some discussion
with Mr. Neuberger, Mr. Miller indicated that he and his crew would go to the lighting site and
do some checking on the electrical lines.
MOTION by Donini/Neglia
I move that the Task Force recommend to City Council to authorize Mr. Miller and CRA
to proceed with the project according to our discussion today.
Roll call:
Anthony Donini - yes Thomas Connelly - yes
Salvatore Neglia - yes Chmn. Dabrowski - yes
Cindy Lou Dierkes(a) - yes
The vote was 5 - 0. Motion carried.
Mr. Neuberger asked about the plans from FDOT for the sidewalk.
Mr. Frame noted that these drawings are 100%, and are being put out for bid. He noted that the
present plans don't have a lot detail for placement of the light poles. He also mentioned that
FDOT has indicated that the City will have a great deal of flexibility in working with their
contractor in the placement of that sidewalk.
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Mr. Miller noted that he has the sidewalk plans from FDOT, and he has been in touch with FDOT
and is using their plans to coordinate the lighting.
Mr. Bud Clark noted that this grant must be completed by January of next year (1999), which
means that the City cannot wait for FDOT to complete their sidewalk. He also mentioned an
Administrative closure on the grant, even though the sidewalk is not completed.
Chrnn. Dabrowski adjourned the meeting at 4:44 pm.
(10-23-98 AB)