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CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
SEP MBER 1996
Chairman Generazio called the meeting to order at 2:10 p.m.
ROUX.
PRESENT:
Mr. Oliver
Mr. Costa, Alternate
Mr. Connelly
Mr. May
Chmn. Generazio
Mr. Neglia
Mr. Cosco
EXCUSED: Mr. Goelz
ALSO PRESENT:
Ms. Valerie Settles, City Attorney
Mr. Steven Lulich, Board Attorney
Kenny Schmitt, Code Enforcement officer
Randy Bonar, Code Enforcement officer
Dorri Bosworth, Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mr. Costa would be voting in place of the absent regular member,
Mr. Goelz.
APPROVAL OF MINU~ES:
Mr. Neglia made a motion to approve the minutes from last meeting
of August 21, 1996. Mr. May seconded the motion. Roll call was
taken. 7-0 motion carried.
OLD BU~NESS:
CASE #96-11527 - 1473 SEAHOUSE STREET - JAMES DOLLINS - REVIEW FOR
APPEAL
Mr. Dollins was present.
Mr. Lulich reviewed that most appeals were made directly to the
Circuit Court. In the past, however, the Board has reconsidered
their Orders, or amended them, and reconsidered their fines. The
state statutes or city ordinances had no references to the Board's
ability or non-ability to reconsider their decisions.
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
REGULAR MEETIng, OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1,~9,6
RAGE TWO
Ms. Settles stated the case was again before the Board because
there was a discrepancy between the van described in the violation
notice and the actual van in the photograph used as evidence. As
she represented the City, she stated the they had no problems with
the Board reviewing the case again.
Chairman Generazio re-opened Case #96-11527. Mr. Lulich swore in
all parties who were speaking including Mr. Dollins.
Mr. Connelly, new member on the Board, questioned the Chairman if
he needed to step down from the hearing because he was not present
for the first hearing? Mr. Generazio stated no, since the case was
going to be re-heard in its entirety with the proper evidence.
Mr. Generazio then reviewed that at the first hearing Mr. Goelz had
excused himself from the hearing due to a conflict of interest.
Mr. Goelz was not present at today's meeting. Mr. Generazio asked
the Board if any other member now needed to excuse themselves from
the second hearing because of any additional knowledge of the case?
None of the members stepped down.
The previous approved Order was put on hold until after the re-
hearing.
Ms. Settles presented the case to the Board calling Kenny Schmitt,
Code Enforcement Officer, to testify, and questioned him if he was
familiar with Mr. Dollins' property? Mr. Schmitt stated yes, a
complaint was received that there were empty drywall compound
buckets lying around, junk, and an unregistered van on the side of
the house. He went to the property on 6/10/96 and spoke with Mr.
Dollins explaining why he was there and what violations could be
seen from the street. He told Mr. Dollins the junk had to be
cleaned up and then asked him if the vehicle was registered and
insured. Mr. Dollins stated no.
Exhibit "A" was presented to the Board which was the Notice of
Violation hand-delivered to Mr. Dollins on 6/10/96 in reference to
the unregistered vehicle. Exhibit "B" was a photograph of the van
in question located on the side of the house. The exhibits were
presented to the Board previously at the first hearing.
Mr. Schmitt then explained he periodically passed Mr. Dollins'
house and saw the van in the same location as depicted in the
photograph. Exhibit "C" was the Summons served to Mr. Dollins'
house on a Saturday by another Code Enforcement Officer, Randy
Bonar, after Mr. Sckmitt could not find Mr. Dollins home during the
weekdays.
Mr. Costa questioned Mr. Schmitt who the complainant was? Mr.
Schmitt stated he did not receive the phone call personally but
that the complaint form listed Mr. A1 Goelz.
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PAGE THREE
Mr. Costa questioned if Mr. Goelz directly stated the van was
unregistered? Mr. schmitt stated that there was a question if the
van was registered or not and the complaint was written down as a
"junk truck" on property. Mr. Costa asked Mr. Schmitt if he
checked to see if the vehicle was registered or not thru the
Department of Motor Vehicles? Mr. Schmitt stated no, he had asked
Mr. Dollins personally.
Mr. Costa also wanted to know why the photo showed a Chevy van and
the Summons referred to a Ford. Mr. Schmitt stated he was not
required to be versed in vehicle identification but the van in the
picture was the one he cited for being in violation.
Mr. Dollins stated when Mr. Schmitt came to see him on 6/10/96, he
was told a complaint had been received regarding an unregistered
van on his property -- before he even told Mr. Schmitt the van was
unregistered. Mr. Schmitt stated that was correct. Mr. Dollins
said the van had not been moved in three months until yesterday
when he drove it off the property (it was operable, not junk) to be
fixed. He questioned how anyone could have known that the van was
not tagged parked as it was on the property. The tag was on the
rear of the van and the van was backed up to the side of the house.
It would have been impossible for any neighbors to the rear of the
property to see that the vehicle was un-tagged because of the heavy
vegetation around his property.
Mr. Dollins questioned Mr. Schmitt who, Mr. Goelz or somebody else,
verified that the van was not tagged? Mr. Schmitt stated he had no
personal knowledge of how it was ascertained that the van was not
registered.
Randy Bonar was sworn in and testified that he did deliver the
Summons on Saturday (7/29/96) after Mr. Schmitt had tried and the
Police Department had made a couple of attempts.
Mr. Dollins asked both Officers if he was belligerent to either one
of them when they were at his residence? Mr. Schmitt and Mr. Bonar
stated no. He apologized for not being at the last meeting as he
had to work out of town.
Mr. Dollins stated he had an idea of how the vehicle was determined
to be unregistered. He said two times someone had trespassed on
his property. He wasn't sure if the person was affiliated with the
Board but, knew he was friends with Mr. Goelz, seen talking
together at the end of the street. Mr. Generazio questioned if the
Police were notified. Mr. Dollins stated he wasn't home but, his
girlfriend was at the house and saw the person walk behind the
house two different times. Mr. Generazio stated he did not think
the Board should consider heresay evidence. Mr. Dollins said it
was not heresay as he had two witnesses. He also said the
trespasser must have thought Mr. Dollins was not home because his
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1996
PAGE FOUR
car was not in the driveway.
right.
Going onto his property was not
Mr. Dollins then explained he could not afford to pay the fines
from the previous Order. He was surprised at the steepness of the
fines. The vehicle in the picture was a Chevy van and not a Ford
as indicated in the Order. He asked the Board to reconsider their
Order.
Mr. Generazio asked Mr. Dollins if he had told Mr. Schmitt the van
was not registered? Mr. Dollins stated yes, after Mr. Schmitt said
{at the time of the first visit}, "I was told this vehicle was not
registered. Is it or is it not?" Mr. Generazio stated that was the
violation that was before the Board, not any trespassing. If Mr.
Dollins felt his rights were being violated from trespassers, a
criminal act, he should take that matter up with the proper
authorities.
The City Attorney stated the City's recommendation was, since this
was a new hearing, to find that the respondent was in violation and
issue an Order so stating for the records, that there be no fine,
and the previous Order be rescinded.
Mr. May questioned how long the van was sitting on the property?
Mr. Dollins stated since May.
Mr. Neglia asked Mr. Dollins if anyone from the Code Enforcement
Board got in touch with him, came to see him or call on the
telephone? He stated no. Mr. Neglia then asked if anyone had told
him he could appeal the original Order? Mr. Dollins stated he
talked to several people about appealing and mentioned he spoke to
the Board secretary, calling her on the telephone and speaking to
her in the office.
Mr. Cosco also questioned Mr. Dollins on why it took so long to
have the van removed. Mr. Dollins stated he had to save enough
money to have the van repaired.
Mr. Lulich reviewed procedures and what options the Board had:
1. Let the existing Order stand.
2. Rescind the previous Order and make a new Order by motion.
Mr. Costa questioned if shouldn't all the witnesses and all
statements be heard first before any decisions were made. Mr.
Lulich stated only evidence in regards to the violation should be
heard by the Board. Mr. Costa was concerned the violation was
brought about wrongfully and would like to find out who went on Mr.
Dollins' property. He felt if a Board member or City official had
acted illegally it should be brought out.
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REGULAR.~.E~ING OF SEPTEMBER 18, 1996
PAGE FIVE
Mr. Generazio stated the Board and Mr. Dollins were here for a
hearing on the parking violation. If Mr. Dollins had a complaint
on trespassing or on a Board member he should file a complaint in
the proper place.
Mr. Lulich stated Mr. Costa and other Board members assessment of
the evidence and hearing would be voiced in their vote.
Mr. Costa stated he wanted to hear all the witnesses. Mr. Dollins
stated his witness was in regards to the trespassing which was not
the violation being heard before the Board. But he felt the
violation was brought up incorrectly by trespassing and a Board
member was involved. Mr. Oliver asked who was the Board member.
Mr. Dollins stated Mr. Goelz, who excused himself from the hearing.
Mr. Neglia stated when Mr. Goelz made the complaint he did not go
on Mr. Dollins' property. Mr. Dollins said no, he had someone else
go on his property. Mr. Neglia asked if this happened recently?
Mr. Dollins stated no, this was before Mr. Schmitt came to talk to
him.
Mr. Generazio explained that Mr. Goelz acted properly in removing
himself from the previous hearing. If the hearing today could not
be resolved it should go to court.
Mr. Lulich stated no, the Board needed to make a decision today,
whether it be a new Order or to keep the old. They needed to
determine if there was a violation, finding of facts, and if there
was to be a fine.
Mr. Cosco made.a motion to rescind the previous Order. Mr. Neglia
seconded the motion.
Roi1 call was taken:
Mr. Connelly YES Mr. Cosco YES
Mr. May YES Mr. Costa YES
Chmn. Generazio YES Mr. Oliver YES
Mr. Neglia YES
Motion carried 7-0.
Mr. Cosco then made another motion to find Mr. Dollins guilty as
charged and rescind all fines.
The city attorney again reviewed their recommendation in that the
motion should find "Mr. Dollins in violation of the charges in the
Notice of Violation and an Order entering such a determination and
provisions that if there is a further violation that there will be
a fine of $250 a day for each day of the continuing violation."
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Mr. Cosco changed his motion to be to accept the City's
recommendation. Mr. May seconded the motion.
Mr. Costa stated he still had a problem with not hearing all the
testimony before a motion was made and wanted to hear all witnesses
before he voted on the motion.
Mr. Lulich stated all witnesses had to be presented either by the
City or Respondent and asked Mr. Dollins if he had any other
witnesses? Mr. Dollins stated yes, but she was in regards to the
trespassing. Mr. Lulich stated it was up to the Chairman to hear
the witness or not.
Mr. Neglia asked Mr. Costa what he was trying to get at? Mr. Costa
stated he wanted to know if there was a criminal act involved in
this hearing, if this man {the trespasser} was charged with abuse
of authority, and wanted to know if anyone went on Mr. Dollins'
property and then charged him.
Mr. Lulich asked Mr. Dollins if his witness could testify she saw
a specific person go behind his vehicle to see the license plate
number? Mr. Dollins stated yes. Mr. Lulich again asked Chmn.
Generazio if he wanted to hear the witness?
Chmn. Generazio stated he didn't think the witness was relevant to
the case. Mr. Costa stated he thought any matter involving a Board
member should be out in the open. Chmn. Generazio stated this
wasn't the Board to hear complaints regarding Board members,
perhaps City Council should.
Mr. Costa stated he was going to bring the issue to the State's
Board of Ethics Committee in Tallahassee.
Mr. Oliver asked to see a definition of trespassing vs. criminal
trespassing.
Chmn. Generazio stated he was going to call a roll call and if the
vote was close, he would call another hearing. If not he wanted to
close this case.
Roll call was taken on the motion:
Mr. Connelly YES Mr. Cosco YES
Mr. May YES Mr. Costa NO
Chmn. Generazio YES Mr. Oliver YES
Mr. Neglia YES
Motion carried 6-1.
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REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 18f 1996
PAGE SEVEN
Mr. Costa apologized to Mr, Dollins for the whole Board missing the
concept of the hearing. Chmn. Generazio told Mr. Costa he could
not speak if he was going to apologize for the Board.
Mr. Lulich passed out a copy of Florida Statute 162.09 regarding
administrative fines, costs of repairs, and liens. He reviewed the
information with the Board concerning the set fine of $250 they
ordered in the previous hearing.
Mr. Costa stated he was aware of something going on in that there
was an abuse of power by someone to get back at someone else.
There was a violation of law when someone went on Mr. Dollins'
property before the summons was written to get information to write
the summons. The person that went behind the house was a member of
another Board, but a friend of a Code Enforcement Board member. He
also stated he thought there was a lot of collusion and revenge for
some matter that happened in the neighborhood with some of the
kids. Mr. Costa thought the whole thing stunk and he was going to
recommend to Mr. Dollins or do it himself to file a complaint with
the Board of Ethics. He was going to ask Mr. Dollins to press
charges against the board member for trespassing. He stated it was
not the fault of this Board or the officer Kenny Schmitt. Mr.
Schmitt was used in this matter. He had no knowledge of what was
going on or if the van was registered. He was taking the word of
an another individual.
Mr. Schmitt asked to speak but was put on hold. Cb_mn. Generazio
asked Mr. Costa how he knew all this information? Mr. Costa stated
he asked questions and investigated. Chmn. Generazio asked to whom
did he speak to? Mr. Costa said the question was mute now. Chmn.
Generazio stated it was wrong to investigate a case outside of a
hearing and Mr. Costa ought to turn himself in also to the Board of
Ethics. He asked if Mr. Costa had called Kenny Schmitt at home?
Mr. Costa stated yes. He asked Mr. Costa if he had talked to Mr.
Dollins? Mr. Costa said it was irrelevant now. He investigated
this case outside of the hearing because he felt there was
something wrong with it.
Mr. Neglia made a motion to adjourn the meeting.
seconded it.
Mr. Oliver
Chairman Generazio closed the meeting at 3:12 p.m.
Mr. Schmitt stated he had asked to speak and was not allowed. He
was annoyed at the implication made by Mr. Costa that he was used
in this case and did not get to defend himself.
Minutes approved at the
, 1997 Meeting.
' Chairman
Dorri Boswor%h, Secretary
Code Enforcement Board