HomeMy WebLinkAbout03121982SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD MEETING
MARCH 12, 1982
CONSTRUCTION BOARD MEETING CALLED TO ORDER BY ED PALUCH, CHAIRMAN, AT 8: 30 A.M.
PRESENT: ED PALUCH, KRIS CURRY, JIM HARRIS, HUSTON TRIPP, JOHN CALMES,
GREG PALMER, AND ARTHUR MAYER
ED PALUCH ANNOUNCED THAT, THIS MEETING WAS CALLED DUE TO SEVERAL COMPLAINTS BEING
MADE BY SUB-CONTRACTORS REGARDING UNPAID BILLS, UNLICENSED PERSONS WORKING WITHIN
THE CITY, LICENSED SUB-CONTRACTORS WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE STATE AND JOBS NOT
BEING IDENTIFIED PROPERLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
AFTER A VERY LENGTHY DISCUSSION REGARDING A NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT, BARBARA DEVANE,
SECRETARY, BUILDING OFFICIAL, STATED THAT IT IS A STATE STATUTE THAT A NOTICE OF
COMMENCEMENT BE FILED BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION CAN BEGIN AND AT THE PRESENT. ~IME THE
CITY OF SEBASTIAN DOES NOT ENFORCE THIS PROCEDURE. SHE RECOMMENDED THAT THE FILING
OF THE NOTICE WOULD ELIMINATE ALOT OF LIENS BEING PLACED ON PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T
EVEN BINDING. SHE ALSO EXPLAINED THAT THE NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT CAN BE PURCHASED
AT ANY LOCAL STATIONARY STORE AND THAT AN ATTORNEY IS NOT NEEDED FOR THE FILING.
THE NOTICE CAN HE FILED WITH THE RECORDING CLERK AT THE INDIAN RIVER COUNTY COURT
HOUSE FOR APPROXIMATELY $7.00.
ED PALUCH.~,STATED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PROBLEMS ARE OCURRING FROM SUB-CONTRACTORS
IN THE AREA WHO ARE STARTING JOBS WITHOUT A WRITTEN AGREEMENT. HE FELT THAT THE
SUB-CONTRACTORS NEEDED TO BE MADE AWARE OF LIEN PROCEDURES AND WHERE TO BEGIN AS
FAR AS PLACING A LIEN ON A JOB.
ARTHUR MAYER, BUILDING OFFICIAL, STATED THAT THE CiTY OF SEBASTIAN REQUIRES THAT
· THE PERMIT BE POSTED ON THE JOB SiTE AND FELT THAT THE NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT BE
POSTED ALSO. HE STATED THAT COPIES OF THESE DOCUMENTS ARE KEPT IN THE BUILDING
DEPARTMENT AND IF A SUB-CONTRACTOR DOES HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PAYMENT HE WILL BE.7~
ABLE TO OBTAIN THIS LEGAL INFORMATION AND PREPARE TO FILE I~OR A LIEN.
MOTION BY HUSTON TRIPP, SECONDED BY GREG P~R, THAT A NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT BE
FILED IN CITY HALL PRIOR TO ISSUING A BUILDING PERMIT.
MOTION CARRIED.
ED PALUCH STATED THAT THIS WOULD BE EFFECTIVE I~H4EDIATELY AND IF IT' CREATED A
HARDSHIP, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL COULD MAKE A DECISION AT THAT TIME.
BARBARA DEVANE fS,TATED THAT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF THE CONTRACTORS WOULD POST
THE LOT NUMBER AND BLOCK NUMEER ON THE JOB SITE, SINCE ALL INFORMATION IN THE BUILDING
DEPARTMENT IS FILED IN THIS MANNER.
ED PALUCH STATED THAT ARTHUR MAYER, BUILDING OFFICIAL, RECOMMENDED THAT THE SUB-CON-
TRACTORS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE
OF THE BUILDING PERMIT, BE REQUESTED TO COME INTO THE BUILDING DEP;~RTMENT AND INITIAL
THE PERMIT APPLICATION, PRIOR TO ANY INSPECTION, VERIFYING THEM AS THE SUB-CONTRACTOR
ON THE JOB.
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SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD MEET. ING' ~. -L~ MAR~H 12, 1982..
ARTHUR MAYER EXPLAINED THAT THE PLUMBERS, ELECTRICIANS AND AIR CONDITIONING CONTRACTORS
ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THIS PROCEDURE NOW AND THaT IT HAS BEEN WORKING OUT. HE
FELT THIS SHOULD BE CONTINUED WITH OTHER PHASES OF SUB-CONTRACTORS, SUCH AS PAINTER,
INSULATION, CARPENTRY AND DRYWAY CONTRACTORS.
AFTER A BRIEF DISCUSSION, ARTHUR MAYER STATED THAT ONLY ONE INITIAL BUILDING PERMIT
iS ~SSUED TO THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND AT THAT TIME EACH SUB-CONTRACTOR .SHOULD BE
LISTED AS DOING A PARTICULAR PHASE OF THE JOB.' THE PROBLEM ARISES DURING THE COURSE
OF THE JOB, WHERE OTHER SUBS ARE PULLED IN TO DO THE WORK, SOME UNLICENSED, AND THEN
THERE IS NEVER A RECORD OF WHO ACTUALLY COMPLETED THAT CERTAIN PHASE OF THE WORK. HE
FELT IF EVERY SUB-CONTRACCDR iNITIALED THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION ON FILE IN THE
BUILDING DEPARTMENT BEFORE THE ~NSPECTION IS DUE, IT WOULD HELP TO KEEP A TIGHTER CON-
TROL OF WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING EACH PHASE OF THE JOB. HE STATED THAT IF AN INSPECTION
IS CALLED FOR AND THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION IS NOT SIGNED OFF FOR THAT PARTICULAR
PHASE OF WORK, AN INSPECTION WILL NOT BE MADE AND THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE CHARGED $5.00
FOR A RE, iNSPECTION.
MOTION BY JIM HARRIS, SECONDED BY GREG PALMER, THAT ALL SUB-CONTRACTORS MUST INITIAL
THE ~PLICATION IN CITY HALL BEFORE INSPECTION.
MOTION CARRIED.
FRANK OBERBECK, CONTRACTOR, RECOMMENDED THAT LICENSES SHOULD BE ISSUED TO EVERY CON-
TRACTOR IN THE CITY REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE TRADE IS. HE FELT THIS WOULD3OONTROL AND PRO-
VIDE MORE WORK FOR THE SUB-CONTRACTORS IN THE COMMUNITY. HE SUGGESTED THAT ALL TRADES
ON A JOB SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SOME FORM OF INDENTIFICATION REGARDING THEIR
QUALIFICATIONS.
MR. PALUCH STATED THAT AT THE PRESENT TIME EACH PERSON IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A CITY
OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE AND THAT A NON-TESTED LICENSE IS KNOWN Ag A SPECIALTY LICENSE.
MOTION BY HUSTON TRIPP , SECONDED BY JOHN CALMES , THAT WE LICENSE ALL SUB-CONTRACTORS
PERTAINING TO CONSTRUCTION FROM START TO FINISH.
ED PALUCH STATED THAT EVERY SPECIALTY SUB-CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF OF
LIABILITY INSURANCE AND D~)CUMENTATION!]fNDICATING THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO
THE JOB. HE REMARKED THAT TESTING OR CERTIFICATION OF .COMPETENCY WILL NOT BE NECESSARY.
ED PALUCH RECOMMENDED THAT THE FEE FOR THESE SPECIALTY LICENSES AND REES FOR OTHER
COMPETENCY LICENSES BE REDUCED.
JOHN CALMES WITHDRtFW HIS SEOOND, MOTION WITHDRAWN BY HUSTON TRIPP.
MOTION BY HUSTON TRIPP, SECONDED BY JOHN CALMES, THAT WE LICENSE ALL SUE-CONTRACTORS
THAT PERTAIN TO CONSTRUCTION FROM START TO FINISH, TURN KEY OPERATION.
MOTION CARRIED.
ED PALUCH STATED THAT THIS WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND IF IT CREATED A HARDSHIP
ON ANYONE THAT WE COULD NEGOTIATE ON A ONE PO ONE BASIS.
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AFTER A VERY LENGTHY DISCUSSION REG~RDING OWNER BUILDERS, ED PALUC~ STATED THAT THE
PROBLEM IS WIT~ OWNER BUILDERS RETURNING UP NORTH AFTER ALL THE NECESSARY PAPER
WORK HAS BEEN ARRANGED TO' START CONSTRUCTION AND ALL WORK IS SUBED OUT. HE FELT
THEY SHOULD BE ON THE JOB SITE ~0 OVER SEE THE C~NSTRUCTION AND NOT LEAVE ALL OF
THE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE SUB-CONTRACTORS.
HUSTON TRIPP RECOMMENDED THAT THE OWNER BUILDER BE ON THE JOB SITE WHEN AN INSPECTION
IS TO BE MADE.
MOTION BY HUSTON TRIPP, SECONDED BY JOHN CALMES, THAT THE OWNER BUILDER BE PRESENT
FOR ALL .INSPECTIONS.
MOTION AMENDED BY HUSTON TRIPP, SECONDED BY JOHN CALMES, THAT W~ ALSO REQUIRE THE
OWNER BUILDER TO BE PRESENT ~ND WORKING ON ANY PHASE THAT HE HAS S2~iD HE WOULD DO
HIMSELF.
MOTION CARRIED.
A DISCUSSION FOLLOWED REGARDING THE REQUIREFIENT OF PERMITTED TRADES TO BE SUBED OUT
TO LICENSED CONTRACTORS. ED PALUCH EXPLAINED THAT AN OWNER BUILDER CAN DO PERMITTED
TRA~ES SUCH AS, ELECTRICAL, PLUMING OR AIR CONDITIONING IF HE IS COMPETENT?
HUSTON TRIPP RECOMMENDED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD HOLD A MONTHLY MEETING TO REVIEW
THE QUALiFiCATiONS OF ANY OWNER BUILDER WISHING TO DO A PERMITTED TRADE HIMSELF BEFORE
A BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED.
ED PALUCH STATED THAT IF AN OWNER?BUILDER CANNOT PROVE COMPETENCY TO THE SATISFACTION
OF THE BOARD THE ONLY RECOURSE HE WILL HAVE IS TO TAKE A BLOCK EXAM TEST.
ARTHUR MAYER FELT IT WASN,T NECESSARY FOR OWNER BUILDERS TO MEET WITH THE BOARD FOR
SPECIALTY TRADES.
MOTION BY HUSTON TRIPP, SECONDED BY GREG PALMER, THAT BEFORE AN OWNER BUILDER IS
ALLOWED TO PULL A PERMIT THAT HE MEET WITH THE BOARD TO PROVE HIS COMPETENCY FOR
ANY STRUCTURAL AND PERMITTING PHASE THAT IS NOT SUBED OUT TO LICENSED SUB-CONTRACTORS.
MOTION CARRIED.
THE BOARD AGREED TO ~EET ON EVERY FIRST TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT 3:00 P.M., IN CITY
HALL AND ,-REQUESTED THAT EACH MEMBER BE NOTIFIED BY MAIL A~-FEW DAYS BEFORE TO CON-
FIRM EACH MEETING.
ED PALUCH sTATED THAT THE SUB-CONTRACTORS AND CONTRACTORS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE UN-
FAMILIAR WITH THE CURRENT LIEN LAWS._73-HKVFELT MORE CONTRACTORS AND SUB-CONTRACTORS
SHOULD .BE MADE AWARE OF THE~iLIEN LAWS AND PROCEDURES AND THAT IT WOULD HELP TO ELIMIN-
ATE ALOT OF PROBLEMS. HE RECOMMENDED THAT A SEMINAR BE HELD ~ND TO HIRE, AN ATTORNEY
TO SPEAK ON THE SUBZ~ECT OF MECHANIC LIEN LAWS & PROCEDURES.
AFTER A BRIEF DISCUSSION IT WAS DECIDED THAT THE SEMINAR WOULD BE HELDTAT THE SEBASTIAI~
COMMUNITY CE~TERAND THAT A DONATION WAS SET FOR $5.00 PER PERSON TO COVER THE COST.
THE BOARD HOPED TO HAVE ATLEAST 100 PERSONS ATTENDING.
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MARCH12~ 1982
ANOTHER PROBLEM BROUGHT UP WAS REGARDING MECHANICS WORKING ON A JOB WITHOUT A FLORIDA
STATE LICENSE PLATE OR FLORIDA DRIVERS LICENSE.
ED PAAUCH STATED THAT HE WAS AWARE OF THE FACT THAT CONTRACTORS IN THE AREA ARE HIRING
THESE sUBs WITHOUT A VALID LICENSE PLATE OR DRIVERS LICENSE AND RECOMHENDED THAT THEY
CHECK INTO THIS FURTHER.
ED PALUCH RECOMMENDED THAT NO LICENSE BE ISSUED TO ANYONE UNLESS PROOF OF RESIDENCY
IS PRESENTED. HE FELT A DRIVERS LICENSE, VEHICLE REGISTRATION OR A VOTERS REGISTRATION
CARD WOULD BE ADEQUATE.
MOTION BY KRI$3'CURRY, SECONDED BY JOHN CALMES, THAT THE BOARD REQUIRE BEFORE ISSUANCE
OF ANY COMPETENCY LICENSE WITH THE CITY, THAT THE APPLICANT PRESENT A VALID FLORIDA
DRIVERS LICENSE, .gUEHI~LE~%.REGISTRATION OR VOTERS REGISTRATION.
MOTION CARRIED.
ED PALUCH REQUESTED THAT A LETTER BE SENT TO ALL THOSE LICENSEES WHO ARE NOT FLORIDA
RESIDENTS, INDICATING THAT THEY PRESENT THIS PROOF WITHIN 10 DAYS OR THEIR LICENSE
WILL BE
ED'3PALUCH ANNOUNCED THAT THE NEXT REGULAR CONSTRUCTION BOARD MEETING WI_LL...BE._'_HELD
ON APRIL~, 1982, AT 3:00 P.M., IN CITY HALL.
MEETING ADJOURNED:
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