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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06111991SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD ; BOARD SECRETARY SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD REGULAR MEETING JUNE, 1,1r 1991 - 7:30 P.M. MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY CHAIRMAN CAREY AT 7:40 P,M. (MEETIN~ STARTED LATE DUE TO FILES BEING REVIEWED.) ROLL CALL: PRESENT: MR. KELLEY MR. NEUBERGER MR. CAPP MR. DERNBACH MR. HANEY CHAIRMAN CAREY ABSENT: VICE CHAIRMAN LAMAN - EXCUSED ALSO PRESENTs MR. COOPER, BUILDING OFFICIAL; MR. NICHOLSON, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER; ATTORNEY RICHARD TORPY, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. APPROVAL OF MINUTES MOTION BY MR. CAPP, SECONDED BY MR. NEUBERGER TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF MEETING HELD 6/14/91. MOTION. CARRIED. OLD ~USIN~SS BIREL~Y, WM./PLUMBING - QUALIFY SECOND CORPORATION MOTION BY MR. NEUBERGER, SECONDED BY MR. DERNBACH THAT ON ADVISE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT MR. BIRELEY'S REQUEST BE DENIED. MOTION CARRIED. ANGELIDIS, IGNA'TIOS/HARV "A" - LETTER OF RECIPROCITY MOTION BY MR. NEUBERGER, SECONDED BY MR. DERNBACM TO TABLE APPLICATION UNTIL AFTER THE VIOLATION HEARING. MOTION CARRIED. NEW BUSINESS BLOCK EXAM - GAINESVILLE FOXWELL JR., DONALD/LANDCLEARING, GRADING BACK, RICHARD R./RESIDENTIAL CONTRACTOR LAWRENCE, LARRY/GENERAL CONTRACTOR MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY TO ACCEPT MR. FOXWELL, MR. BACK AND MR. LAWRENCE APPLICATION FOR THE BLOCK EXAM IN GAINESVILLE. PAGE 2 SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - 6/11/91 NEW BUSINESS cunt MR. NEUBERGER NOTED THAT MR. FOXWELL'S APPLICATION DID NOT SHOW A PROPER CREDIT REPORT. SECRETARY CAN SO NOTE WHEN ORIGINAL IS RECEIVED. MOTION CARRIED. DERNBACH, DENNIS/RESIDENTIAL CONTRACTOR CHAIRMAN CAREY NOTED THAT SINCE MR. DERNBACH IS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD THAT HE WOULD ABSTAIN FROM VOTING DUE TO A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. NEUBERGER TO ACCEPT MR. DERNBACH'S APPLICATION FOR BLOCK EXAM IN GAINESVILLE. MOTION CARRIED. LETTER OF RECIPROCITY BENZINGER, HOWARD/GENERAL CONTRACTOR MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY TO ACCEPT MR. BENZINGER'S LETTER OF RECIPROCITY AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. MOTION CARRIED. MEURETT, CHRISTOPHER/ELECTRICAL SIGNS MOTION BY MR. CAPP, SECONDED BY MR. NEUBERGER TO APPROVE MR. MEURETT'S LETTER OF RECIPROCITY. MR. DERNBACH QUESTIONED THE CREDIT REPORT REGARDING 4/90. WAS ASKED IF THE JUDGEMENT FILED WAS BUSINESS RELATED? HE MR. MEURETT SAID IT WAS BUSINESS RELATED. THEY HAD ACCEPTED A CUSTOMERS CHECK AND MADE AN AGREEMENT TO MANUFACTURE SOME. SIGN PRODUCTS IN ORLANDO. THE CHECK BOUNCED. THEY WERE THEN NOTIFIED BY THE BANKRUPTCY COURT THAT THEY HAD BEEN IN BANKRUPTCY FOR SOME 18 MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT. THEY HAD ALREADY STARTED TO MANUFACTURE THE PRODUCTS AND SINCE HE WAS VERY EXPERIENCED IN OPERATING IN THAT MANNER, WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY FILE A JUDGEMENT AND GET THE DEPOSIT BACK. THE JUDGEMENT HAS BEEN SATISFIED, THE MAN WAS PAID. MOTION CARRIED. HIRT, GERALD/ROOFING UNLIMITED MOTION BY MR. NEUBERGER, SECONDED BY MR. DERNBACH THAT MR. HIRT'S APPLICATION BE WITHHELD UNTIL AFTER THE VIOLATION HEARING. MOTION CARRIED. PAGE 4 SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - H/il/9! VIOLATION HEARINGS METRO MECHANICAL cont MOTION BY MR. CAPP, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY WE FIND METRO MECHANICAL SERVICES IN VIOLATION OF CITY OF SEBASTIAN CODE OF ORDINANCES, ?-99(A), NOT LICENSED. MOTION CARRIED. MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. CAPP TO FINE METRO MECHANICAL FOR VIOLATION OF ?-99(A), NOT LICENSED, THE AMOUNT OF $500.00. ATTORNEY KIRSCHENBAUM, ON BEHALF OF METRO MECHANICAL BEGGED FOR MERCY SINCE THIS WAS A FIRST TIME, FIRST OFFENSE AND HE FELT A FINE OF $500.00 WAS UNREASONABLE AND HARSH. ROLL CALL: AYES: MR. NEUBERGER MR. CAPP MR. DERNBACH MR. HANEY CHAIRMAN CAREY NAY= MR. KELLEY MOTION CARRIED. CHAIRMAN CAREY ASKED THE BOARD TO CONSIDER MR. ANGELIDIS'S APPLICATION FOR LETTER OF RECIPROCITY. MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. KELLEY TO ACCEPT HIS LETTER AT THIS TIME. MR. COOPER ASKED THAT THE MOTION BE AMENDED SO THAT THE FINE BE PAID PRIOR TO LICENSING. MR. KELLEY WITHDREW HIS SECOND, MR. HANEY WITHDREW HIS MOTION. : MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. KELLEY TO ACCEPT MR. ANGELIDIS LETTER OF RECIPROCITY AND PRIOR TO A LICENSE BEING ISSUED iN THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, THE FINE BE PAID. MOTION CARRIED. SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - 6/11/91 NEW BUSINESS con% VICK, MICHAEL D./ROOFING UNLIMITED MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. CAPP TO ACCEPT MR. VICK'S LETTER OF RECIPROCITY. MOTION CARRIED. BLACKBURN, NElL/GLASS & GLASSING MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. NEUBE~ER TO HOLD MR. BLACKBURN'S APPLICATION FOR LETTER OF RECIPROCITY UNTIL AFTER THE VIOLATION HEARING. MOTION CARRIED. FREY, RALPH/TILE & MARBLE MOTION BY MR. CAPP, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY TO AC~,EPT MR. FREY'S LETTER OF RECIPROCITY. MOTION CARRIED. VIOLATION HEARINGS METRO MECHANICAL 1. IGNATIOS ANGELIDIS 2. PETER HAMILTON 42 ZANE AVE. IT WAS NOTED THAT THIS CASE WAS TABLED FROM THE MAY MEETING. THE BOARD SECRETARY STATED THAT SHE HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE MR. HAMILTON. ATTORNEY JACK KIRSCHENBAUM WAS IN ATTENDANCE REPRESENTING MR ANGELIDIS. · ATTORNEY KIRSCHENBAUM NOTED THAT MR. HAMILTON WAS A SUB- CONTRACTOR, HE HAD BEEN EMPLOYED BY METRO FOR APPROXIMATELY 3 MONTHS, DOING APPROXIMATELY 60 JOBS. HE IS NO LONGER EMPLOYED BY METRO AND HAD NO CHARACTERISTICS OF AN EMPLOYEE. MR. HAMILTON WAS SAID TO HAVE REPRESENTED HIMSELF AS CLA,B$ A STATE CERTIFIED. · THE ATTORNEY SAID THAT MR. ANGELiDIS ADMITTED NOT BEING LICENSED IN SEBASTIAN AND THAT HE WAS TRYING TO GET PROPERLY LICENSED. MR. COOPER SAID THE BOARD WOULD PURSUE MR. HAMILTON BEFORE THERE ARE ANY OTHER CHARGES. PAGE SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD 6/11/91 VIOLATION HEARINGS cunt MRNC CONSTRUCTION 1. JEFFREY S. MEADE 412 INDIAN RIVER DR. IT WAS NOTED THAT THIS WAS LEFT OVER FROM A CASE IN MAY. CHAIRMAN CAREY SWORE IN MR. MEADE. IT WAS NOTED THAT MR. CASANO WAS NOT EMPLOYED BY MR. MEADE. A BRIEF DISCUSSION FOLLOWED. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY TO DISMISS THIS CASE AGAINST MR. MEADE. MOTION CARRIED. PRUDENTIAL BUILDING 1. BILL BARBER 1066 BARBER STREET CHAIRMAN CAREY SWORE IN MR. BARBER. MR. CAPP ASKED WHEN FIRST APPROACHED BY MR. SIMONS' IF HE HAD ASKED IF THEY WERE LICENSED. MR. BARBER SAID HE DID AND THEY SAID THEY WERE. IN TALKING WITH MR. SIMONS IT WAS DETERMINED THAT H~ HAD TALKED WITH THE CLERKS OFFICE AND THAT THEY THOUGHT ALL THEY NEEDED WAS AN OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE - AND ONLY IF THEIR BUSINESS WAS LOCATED IN THE CITY, WHICH IT WAS NOT. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. KELLEY THAT IN VIEW OF THE FACTS PRESENTED TO THIS BOARD THAT WE FIND MR. BARBER GUILTY OF SEC. ?-100(2), AIDING AND ABETTING AN UNL'~CENSED PERSON, VIOLATION OCCURRING AT 1066 BARBER STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA ON OR ABOUT 6/1/91. MOTION CARRIED. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY THAT IN VIEW OF THE FINDINGS OF FACT OF THIS BOARD THAT WE FINE MR. BARBER $160.00, $100.00 TO BE SUSPENDED FOR 90 DAYS UPON CONDITION THAT THERE ARE NO'OTHER VIOLATIONS. MOTION CARRIED. BURGOON BERGER 1. THE ROOFING CO. 226 ZANE STREET PAGE 6 SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - 6/11/91 VIOLATION HEARINGS BURGOON BERGER cunt MIKE DURRANT, DIVISION MANAGER FOR BURGOON BERGER, PHILLIP ESKEW, VICE PRESIDENT, THE ROOFING COMPANY AND GERALD HIRT, PRESIDENT AND QUALIFIER WERE SWORN IN BY CHAIRMAN CAREY, FORBES ROOFING HAD DONE THE ORIGINAL ROOF BUT DUE TO NUMEROUS PROBLEMs IN WORKMANSHIP ON THIS ROOF AND OTHERS, MR. DURRANT TOLD THE BOARD THAT THEY NO LONGER USED FORBES ROOFING'. AT THE TIME THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER STOPPED AT. THE HOUSE, THE WORK ON THE ROOF HAD NOT YET BEEN START~Di. MR. ESKEW TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS LICENSED BUT, IN CHECKING WITH THE LICENSING DEPARTMENT HE FOUND THAT HE WAS NOT LICENSED. MR. HIRT TOLD THAT BOARD THAT IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON HIS PART. MR. NEUBERGER NOTED THAT THEY ALSO DID NOT HAVE A PERMIT TO DO THE JOB. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. CAPP THAT THE BOARD FIND BURGOON BERGER IN VIOLATION OF SEC. 7-100(2), AID.II~ AND ABETTING AN UNLICENSED PERSON ON OR ABOUT 5/21/91, 226 ZANE STREET AND HIRING THE ROOFING CO. AS A SUB-CONTRACTOR. MOTION CARRIED. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY THAT WE FINE BURGOON BERGER $150.O0, $100.00 TO BE. SUSPENDED FOR 90 DAYS. MOTION CARRIED. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY THAT WE FIND THE ROOFING CO. GUILTY OF VIOLATION OF SEC. ?-99(A), 'ACTING AS A UNLICENSED SUB-CONTRACTOR, VIOLATION TAKING PLACE.ON OR ABOUT 5/21/91, 226 ZANE STREET. MOTION CARRIED. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. NEUBERGER THAT WE FINE THE ROOFING CO. $100.00 TO BE PAID PREVIOUS TO ANY LICENSES BEING ISSUED IN THIS CITY. MOTION CARRIED. PAGE ? SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - 6/11/9! VIOLATION HEARINGS HIRT, GERALD/ROOFING UNLIMITED MOTION BY MR. CAPP, SECONDED BY MR. DERNBACH TO ACCEPT HIRT'S LETTER OF RECIPROCITY. MR. HANEY QUESTIONED AN ITEM ON THE CREDIT REPORT. HIRT EXPLAINED THAT THE BANKS GO A FOUR DRAW SYSTEM AND ~OU CAN NOT LAY A TILE ROOF ON A TWO STORY HOUSE UNTIL ALL THE STUCCO WORK AND PAINTING AND SOFFITS ARE INSTALLED. THE TILE IS OELIVERED AND LAID ON THE ROOF BECAUSE YOU NEED THE WEIGHT ON A WOOD FRAME AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE WHOLE INTERIOR IS DONE AND GET THE EXTERIOR DONE BEFORE YOU CAN LAY THE TILE. THIS USUALLY TAKES LONGER THAN A 30 DAY PERIOD. THE BANKS WILL NOT PAY ON A TILE ROOF UNTIL IT IS 100% DONE. MR. HIRT SAID HE WOULD GET A LETTER VERIFYING THE CYCLE IN WHICH THE BILLS ARE PAID. HR. DERNBACH WITHDREW HIS SECOND, HR. CAPP WITHDREW HIS MOTION. MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. DERNBACH TO ACCEPT MR. HIRT's LETTER OF RECIPROCITY PRIOR TO' ISSUANCE OF LICENSE THAT WE GET A LETTER FROM TWO CORPORATIONS ON THE C~IDIT REPORT STATING THAT THEY ARE IN A CURRENT OR PAID STATUS. MR. NEUBERGER VOTED NAY. MOTION CARRIED. KING MANGO ASSOCIATES 1676 U.S. #! 1. CHUCK ELLIS CONTINENTAL ASSOCIATES 1676 U.S. #! 1. DOUGLAS LOSEKE 2. HARMON GLASS 3. ST. LUCIE GLASS & MIRROR CHUCK ELLIS - KING MANGO, DOUG LOSEKE - CONTINENTAL ASSOCIATES, NElL BLACKBURN - ST. LUCIE GLASS, CHIP - HARMON GLASS WERE SWORN IN BY CHAIRMAN CAREY. MR. LOSEKE EXPLAINED THAT HE HAD PICKED UP THE PERMIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING. HE HAD ASSUMED THAT EVERYTHING WAS IN ORDER. PAGE 8 SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - 6/11/91 VIOLATION HEARING KING MANGO/CONTINENTAL ASSOCIATES cont MR. LOSEKE SAID THAT HE KNEW THAT HARMON GLASS WAS GOING TO BE DOING THE WORK. THE JOB STARTED OUT LEAVING THE EXISTING GLASS, IT CRACKED DURI"N~ THE RENOVATION PROCESS AT WHICH TIME HARMON GLASS WAS CONTRACTED TO COME IN AND REPLACE ALL GLAZING BECAUSE THE PANELS THAT WERE CRACKED WERE CLEAR GLASS AND THEY PUT IN THE MIRRORED .FINISHED TYPE. HARMON GLASS EXPLAINED THAT WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE JOB THEY FELT THAT THEY DiD NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER OR TIME TO DO THE JOB BO THEY CONTACTED ST. LUCIE GLASS & MIRROR. IT WAS NOTED THAT HARMON GLASS DID NOT HAVE A CONTRACT TO DO THE WORK. MR. ELLIS SAID THAT HE WAS THE ONE WHO HAD TALKED TO HARMON GLASS. MR. BLACKBURN, ST. LUCIE GLASS & MIRROR TOLD THE BOARD THAT HE HAD NO WRITTEN CONTRACT. IT. WAS NOTED THAT NORTH COUNTY GLASS FINISHED THE JOB AND THAT THEY ARE LICENSED AND INSURED. MOT. iON BY MR- NEUBERGER, SECONDED BY MR. KELLEY THAT DUE TO THE~ PACT THAT MR. LOSEKE WAS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIRING, FIRING, ETC., BE FOUND GUILTY OF THE CHARGE VIOLATION SEC. 7-100(2), CODE OF ORDINANCES, CITY OF SEBASTIAN, VIOLATION OCCURRED AT 1676 U.S. %1, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA. MR. COOPER NOTED THAT EVEN THOUGH MR. LOSEKE WAS THE LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR, THE CONTRACT WAS NOT BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR AND THE G'LAZ~R. MR. KELLEY WITHDREW HIS SECOND, MR. NEUBERGER WITHDREW HIS MOTION. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. NEUBERGER THAT THE BOARD FIND NO CAUSE FOR FURTHER ACTION AGAINST CONTINENTAL ASSOCIATES FOR HARMON GLASS. MOTION CARRIED. PAGE 9 SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - 6/11/91 VIOLATION HEARING KiNG MANGO/CONTINENTAL ASSOCIATES cunt MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY-THAT WE FIND ST. LUCIE GLASS & MIRROR IN VIOLATION OF SEBASTIAN CITY ORDINANCE ?-99(A), ACTING AS A UNLICENSED SUB-CONTRACTOR, VIOLATION TAKING PLACE ON OR ABOUT 8/i6/91 AT 1676 U..S. %1. MOTION CARRIED. MOTION 'BY MR. DKRNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY, IN VIEW OF THE FACTS OF THIS CASE AND THE LACK OF ANY PRIOR PROBLEMS THAT WE FiNE ST. LUCiE GLASS $100.00, SUSPENDED FOR 90 DAYS. MOTION CARRIED. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY TO FIND MR. ELLIS, KING MANGO ASSOCIATES IN VIOLATION OF SEBASTIAN CODES SEC. 7-100(2), FOR VIOLATION TAKING PLACE ON OR ABOUT 5/16/91 AT i676 U.S. %1 IN THE HIRING OF ST. LUCIE GLASS & MIRROR TO PERFORM WORK WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. MOTION CARRIED. MOT.ION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. DERNBACH TO FINE CHUCK ELLIS, KING MANGO ASSOCIATES $150.00, SUSPEND $100.00 PENDING NO FURTHER ACTION FOR THE NEXT 90 DAYS. MOTION CARRIED. BLACKBURN, NEIL/GLASS & GLAZING MOTION BY MR. NEUBERGER, SECONDED BY MR. DERNBACH THAT WE ACCEPT MR. BLACKBURN'S LETTER OF RECIPROCITY FOR GLASS & GLAZING. MOTION CARRIED. RECESS WAS TAKEN AT 9:36 P.M., REOPENED AT 9~48 P.M. WITH ALL PRESENT. DISCUSSION= LICENSING OF CARPET LAYERS THERE WAS A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON THE LICENSING AND GRANDFATHERING' OF CARPET LAYERS. iT WAS NOTED THAT WHEN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT CHANGED THEIR PERMIT APPLICATION TO LIST ALL SUB-CONTRACTORS ON THE JOB, CARPET LAYERS WERE LISTED. AT THIS POINT WE FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY WERE NOT PROPERLY LICENSED. PAGE ~0 SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - 6/1~/91 DISCUSSION= LICENSING OF CARPET LAYERS DAVID HAVENS, QUALITY CARPETS, SEBASTIAN, MS. DIXON, CHAPMAN CARPETS, MELBOURNE, SPOKE TO THE BOARD. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED BY MR. HANEY THAT THE BOARD RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL TO PASS AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE RECOGNIZING INDIAN RIVER COUNTY CARPET LAYING COMPETENCY CARDS AS BEING VALID AND LEGAL TO DO THE SAME TYPE OF WORK IN THE CITY LIMITS. MOTION CARRIED. RUTH CHAPMAN OWNER OF CHAPMAN CARPETS AND SUPPLIES SPOKE TO THE BOARD. MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. CAPP TO APPROACH CITY COUNCIL, HAVE THE SIGN SHOP MAKE SOME SIGNS AND PUT THEM ON THE ACCESS ROADS TO THE CITY, U.S. #1, #612, #510 THAT ANYONE DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY MUST BE A LICENSED CONTRACTOR. ROLL CALL~ AYES= MR. KELLEY MR. HANE'Y CHAIRMAN CAREY NAYS~ MR. NEUBERGER MR. CAPP MR. DERNBACH TIE VOTE. MOTION BY MR. DERNBACH, SECONDED B.Y MR. HANEY THAT THE BOARD RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL TO PASS THE ORDINANCE THAT WE EARLIER PASSED A RESOLUTION ON BECAUSE WE FIND THE CITY AND THE CARPET INSTALLERS IN THE CITY ARE CURRENTLY UNDER UNDUE HARDSHIP DUE TO A LACK OF LICENSED QUALIFIED PERSONAL TO DO INSTALLATIONS. THIS HAS COME ABOUT DUE TO AN ORDINANCE CHANGE SPONSORED BY THIS BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL THAT BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT AN ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM AND CONFUSION WITH THE COUNTY REGULATIONS THAT INCREASES THIS PROBLEM TO THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN SEBASTIAN. IT HAS PUT LONG STANDING QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS OUT OF WORK DUE TO THE CHANGE. MOTION CARRIED. PAGE 11 SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD - 6/11/91 DISCUSSION= GRANDEATHERING MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. CAPP THAT THE BOARD PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WE OPEN UP GRANDFATHERI'NG TO ~LL TRADES WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE FROM 6/13/88 TO THE PRESENT, ~WHO ARE ACTIVE AS A PARTICIPANT IN HIS OWN BUSINESS WITHIN THAT TRADE SINCE THEN WITH VERIFICATION OF EACH INDIVIDUAL BY THE BOARD ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. MR. CAPP NOTED THAT SOME TRADES REQUIRE MORE THAN TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE. MR. CAPP WITHDREW HIS SECOND, MR. HANEY WITHDREW HIS MOTION. MOTION BY MR. HANEY, SECONDED BY MR. CAPP TO OPEN UP TO THE TERM #~RANDFATHERING" ALL TRADES WHO HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS PRIOR TO ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE, WHO MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR HIS TRADE PRIOR TO THE ORDINANCE AND THE PARTICIPANT HAS TO BE ACTIVE IN HIS BUSINESS DURING THAT TIME. MOTION CARRIED. MR. DERNBACH AND MR. HANEY REGISTERED THE SCORES IN THE SCOREBOOK. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11=15 P.M.