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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION/LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 2025
Call to Order -- Chairperson Kautenburg called the meeting to order at 6:00
p.m.
II. Pledqe of Alleqiance -- was recited by all.
III. Roll Call
Present:
Ms. Matthews Mr. Reno (a)
Ms. Kautenburg Ms. Battles
Mr. Carter Ms. Kinchen
Ms. Lorusso
Absent:
Mr. Roberts (a) -- Excused
Ms. Geesey -- Excused
Also Present
Alix Bernard, Community Development Director
Dorri Bosworth, Community Development Manager
Jim Mann, Principal Planner
Michelle Faulkner, Senior Planner
Joseph Perez, AV Technical Assistant
Janet Graham, Technical Writer
IV. Announcements and Aqenda Modifications:
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Ms. Kautenburg announced that Commissioner Geesey is excused from tonight's
meeting, and the alternate member, Mr. Reno, will be voting in her place. Mr. Roberts,
the second alternate, is also excused from this evening's meeting. Mr. Jim Stokes will be
returning as our attorney, and we welcome him to the Board again. However, this evening
he cannot make the meeting, and tonight's meeting is being attended in his stead by
Attorney Andrew Mai, who will be joining us via Zoom.
V. Approval of Minutes: Special Meeting of October 9, 2025
All Commissioners having indicated that they had reviewed the Minutes of October 9,
2025, Ms. Kautenburg called for a motion. A motion accepting the Minutes of October 9,
2025 as presented was made by Mr. Carter, seconded by Ms. Battles, and approved
unanimously via voice vote.
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VI. Planninq and Zoninq (P&Z) Commission Quasi -Judicial Hearinqs
A. P&Z Quasi -Judicial Public Hearing -- Site Plan Development -- City of
Sebastian Cemetery -- Construction of a New 1,577 SF Office Building Along
with Site Improvements Consisting of New Landscaping, Stormwater, and
Utilities -- 1921 N. Central Ave. -- Tax Parcel ID# 30-38-30-00000-9000-
00000.1 -- Current Zoning is PS (Public Service) and Current Land Use is INS
(Institutional)
Mr. Mai read the item into the record.
Ms. Kautenburg explained the process for public input. She then called on the
City/applicant to make their presentation.
Ms. Bernard stated that what the commissioners have before them tonight is the site plan
application for a new administrative office building at the City cemetery, 1921 North
Central Avenue. She stated that there is an existing structure there currently and that the
City has outgrown, and the City is looking to expand the structure to 1,577 square feet.
They have gone before the Board of Adjustment and were granted a reduction in the
required setback from 30 feet on the eastern side to 19.42 feet, and that is to accommodate
the size of the structure and the placement of the structure, not adversely impacting
existing grave plots and an oak tree. The existing designation there is Public Service with
a future land. use of Institutional. There is the required six parking spaces,
landscaping, and utilities. The proposed site plan is on C-400 of your agenda packet. C-
400 is what is being proposed tonight. In addition, the Parks Director is here who oversees
the cemetery as well as the engineer of record. Ms. Kautenburg called for any questions
there are regarding this proposed site plan. There being no one from the public who
wished to speak, Ms. Kautenburg closed the hearing, and stated the Commissioners will
now go into deliberation or action.
Mr. Carter commented that on the elevations in the plans listed there is nothing correlating
with the fishing village theme that we have mandated that all new construction should
have. Ms. Bernard suggested on the architectural drawings the Bahamian -style shutters
are part of the fishing village theme, and she added that -staff did work with the architect to
make sure that it was in compliance with the Overlay District.
Mr. Reno asked regarding the sewer lines. He understands that this will be contingent
on the County installing an extension to a sewer line on Central Avenue so that that
project will not move ahead until that is completed. Ms. Bernard said that staff is working
in partnership with Indian River County to expand the sewer in the entire CRA area which
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this is a part of, and that is just getting underway. So, staff will work in partnership to
make sure that that connection happens at the same time as construction.
Ms. Kinchen asked regarding the teardown of the building. She asked how much
pressure you are going to put on the City Clerk's office to take over for them. There will
not be anyone in the building to help the people who go to the cemetery and pick out lots
and do all the paperwork, etc. She asked if the City Clerk has enough people in her office
to handle that. Ms. Bernard said she believes so, and staff works in partnership with the
Parks Department. So, there will be someone on site there during the construction
process.
There being no more questions from the Commissioners, Ms. Kautenburg called for a
motion. A motion approving the Site Plan for the City of Sebastian Cemetery was made
by Ms. Kinchen and seconded by Ms. Matthews.
Roll Call
Ms. Kinchen -- Yes
Ms. Battles -- Yes
Ms. Kautenburg -- Yes
Ms. Matthews -- Yes
Vote was 7-0 in favor. Motion passes.
Mr. Reno (a)
-- Yes
Ms. Lorusso
-- Yes
Mr. Carter --
Yes
B. P&Z Quasi —Judicial Public Hearing -- Site Plan Development -- Hawk's
Landing -- Development of 162 Townhome Units, for a Proposed Density of 8
Units Per Acre, Including a Private Amenity Center, and Public Dog Park with
Access from Schumann Drive, Along with New Landscaping, Native
Preservation, Stormwater, and Utilities -- The 20.38-Acre Site is Located East
of Schumann Drive, North & West of the Day Drive Canal, and South of Dahl
Avenue. Current Zoning is RM-8 (Residential Multi -Family 8 DU/AC) and
Current Land Use MDR (Medium Density Residential)
Mr. Mai read the item into the record.
Ms. Kautenburg asked the applicant for their presentation.
Wesley Mills, Mills, Short & Associates, introduced himself. He stated that he is here to
represents the Hawk's Landing townhome project. He introduced the owner and
applicant, who is Firethorn, Inc., LLC. He stated there are two representatives from the
ownership group here tonight. His firm is the Land Planner and Civil Engineer for the
project, and McCarty and Associates are the Landscape Architects.
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He pointed to the drawing on the screen, and he described in answer to Mr. Reno's
question, the pipe is situated just east of Schumann Drive. He pointed to a closer view
of the location of the pipe.
Mr. Mills gave some background on the project and how they got to this point. He said
that the floor area of the townhomes will be approximately 1,600 to 1,800 square feet.
There is an overall 40% of open space. There will also be upland preservation areas that
are 27% of the site. They also wanted to be sure that they had enough parking for any
guests of the residents who would be coming, and use of the public dog park and the
amenity center. There are 352 parking spaces in total. Amenities include a pool cabana
and pool centrally located, the public dog park, a retention pond located in that area, and
walking paths and benches for the public to use. There is a 25-foot landscape buffer
around the entire site, and they also have a master stormwater system which would
consist of three wet retention ponds. He pointed out the trees that are on the site plan
presently, and in addition to that they plan to enhance some of the native areas within the
community. He pointed out the main entrance, which will be gated. He pointed out a
secondary access point, and that is what the public would use to access the parking and
dog park. That secondary access will be used for the community to exit the site. He
described the parking areas, and the water system. He also pointed out the landscape
buffers where most of the vegetation will be preserved, and they will also plant that area
to enhance it and buffer it from the single-family residences. There will be a fence along
that area as well. He also pointed out a rendering of what the buildings would look like.
He then called for questions from the commissioners. There being none, Ms. Kautenburg
called on staff for their presentation.
Mr. Mann reviewed that tonight's meeting is regarding a Preliminary Plat and a Site Plan
Approval for the construction of 162 townhome units across 28 buildings along with an
amenity center, public dog park, and access via Schumann Drive. He stated that on the
Agenda tonight there are two different items: a quasi-judicial meeting for the Site Plan
approval, and also a public hearing for the Preliminary Plat. He explained the reason for
having to go through both processes for this project is that, since it is a multi -family
development, it does require a Site Plan approval, which is the quasi-judicial hearing.
Also, they are conveying property for private property owners to own the townhomes.
Thus, it has to be subdivided into a subdivision plat. That requires recommendation for
the City Council to approve the Preliminary Plat. So, in essence, you have two
applications in one presentation. He went into the history of the processes which were
covered. He then stated that staff recommends approval of the Site Plan for this
townhome development of Hawk's Landing under the following conditions:
1. No conveyance of property shall occur until Preliminary Plat and Final
Plat are approved by City Council.
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2. A plan to avoid monotonous color schemes and elevations for the
townhomes shall be submitted for staff approval prior to issuance of the
first building permit.
3. Submittal of a signed School Concurrency Availability Determination
Letter (SCADL) from the School Board must be submitted to staff before
issuance of the first building permit.
Mr. Mann called for questions/comments. There being none, Ms. Kautenburg called for
public input from anyone who is in favor of this project. There being no one, Ms.
Kautenburg called for public input from anyone who is against this project.
Carol Maxwell stated she does not know that the area has enough roads for all these new
people to get out of this development. She asked if there is infrastructure for that, or will
we have it. Ms. Kautenburg replied that there is a primary access entry and exit as well
as a secondary, which are both on Schumann Drive. Ms. Maxwell stated that
Schumann is very busy anyway, and she does not know that it can handle all the
additional traffic from this community. Ms. Kautenburg said the commissioners will ask
about a traffic study, if there has been one.
Ms. Maxwell asked when the traffic study was done. Mr. Mills said the traffic study was
done on January 31 n, 2025 She asked what day of the week that was. Mr. Mills said the
traffic consultant went out and got trips, and he did it multiple times throughout the week.
His report was completed in accordance with Indian River County requirements and the
City's requirements as far as trip generation and logging of the trips, etc. Ms. Maxwell
said she was hoping for a more specific day when the traffic study was done, not just a
random week. She also asked if there is going to be a light, or do we think we need a light
flashing of any type.
Mr. Mann said that the traffic study was done over a 2-week period of time, and they did
the trip counts for that section of roadway. They also included a count of the level of
service of the roadway system. For that number of trips, it did not call for any improvement
of that section of roadway for Schumann Drive. It was approved by ICR Traffic
Engineering and by the City Engineer.
Steve Wooldridge,153 Day Drive. He would like to know where the setbacks off of the
Schumann Canal are going to be for these townhouses. He also asked what the
timeframe is suggested for start and finish.
There was no one else wishing to speak against this project.
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Wesley Mills, Engineer, answered the question about traffic. They did produce a traffic
report that was reviewed by City staff, and the added trips from this development will not
cause any issues for any of the roads that they are loading their traffic on. As it relates
to setbacks of the buildings from the Schumann Canal, the buildings will be set back off
the canal about 50 feet. So there will be a 25-foot landscape buffer from the canal, and
then there will be a 25-foot setback to the building structures.
Ms. Kautenburg called for a final presentation from the staff.
Mr. Mann stated that, in conclusion, the proposed Hawk's Landing Site Plan is consistent
with all state and local laws with respect to the subdivision and Site Plan development,
including provisions contained with the City's Comprehensive Plan and the Land
Development Code. Again, staff recommends approval of the site plan for Hawk's
Landing subdivision under the following three conditions as set forth above.
Ms. Kautenburg closed the hearing, and called for the commissioners' deliberation and
action.
Ms. Battles asked regarding the traffic. There is reference made to the level of service,
and we are all aware that traffic is pretty bad on Schumann. She asked what the level of
service is out there, and maybe it can explained if the level of service changes or not. Mr.
Mills stated he believes the level of service on Schumann is C, and this project does not
change the level of service.
Ms. Battles also asked if the ponds are intended to be wet or dry. Mr. Mills said they are
intended to be wet. She also asked if there is a reason behind the area of the public
amenity being completely fenced and enclosed. Mr. Mills said the community would be
a private community, and we have a gate at the entrance so that the public is not
wondering through the subdivision. It is also to delineate the public park, the limits of the
public park, and then because it would be used for a dog park, they wanted to make sure
that the park was completely fenced if the dogs were out running around.
Ms. Battles asked regarding the secondary access. She thinks the secondary access is
great. She asked what is the plan for any traffic that tries to enter the secondary access
and cannot. Mr. Mills said there are parking spaces there, and that was the intent -- that
you would pull in and do a T-turnaround and then come through.
Ms. Matthews asked if the secondary entrance is gated as well. Mr. Mills said yes. She
asked if there are three total parking spaces for the dog park -- one for handicapped
access and two others. Mr. Mills said yes. She asked if the dog park is a part of the
community. Mr. Mills said yes. She is assuming there is an HOA. Mr. Mills said yes,
there will be.
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Ms. Matthews asked a few other questions regarding the dog park, the fencing, etc., which
Mr. Mills answered.
Ms. Lorusso asked regarding the HOA, when you say, "convey the property to the
owners," does that mean you are going to convey the property to each individual owner,
each unit, or is it going to be by each individual building, where each individual building
has its own HOA, etc. Mr. Mills said each unit is going to be platted fee simple, so every
person who would buy their unit would own their front yard, rear yard, and their unit fee
simple. The HOA would work like any other subdivision, so it would not be like a condo
association.
Ms. Kinchen asked regarding Thunderbird Drive, if it is equal to the west side of
Schumann Drive, as there is a Thunderbird Drive on the west side of Schumann Drive.
Does this Thunderbird Drive line up with the other one. Mr. Mann said it looks like it
aligns, and Thunderbird continues through on the west side of Schumann. They are
preparing the plat now, so they can look at changing the name if there is some confusion
there. Mr. Mills further explained that, because the site was previously platted as 70 lots
as part of the GDC plat, they just used the road names that existed with that plat. He does
not know that his client is fully attached to the name of the street. So, if it makes sense to
change it, they would be happy to change the name of that street.
Mr. Reno asked regarding the right-of-way for the canal maintenance. There is going to
be a large CIP project proposed in the future that is going to include working on the
seawall. He asked if that is going to conflict with the existing plans for this project. He
also asked who the owner of the seawall is presently. Ms. Bosworth said usually it is
determined from the survey of the property. The seawall is usually right on the property
line. She said staff will look into that, and staff will establish who is the owner and has
maintenance of the seawall. Staff can look a bit further into that, and as the plat goes
forward, we will make sure we get a dedication or something in the HOA documents that
establishes that the HOA will be taking care of that seawall.
Ms. Kautenburg pointed out that knowing who owns the seawall is extremely important. If
you are intending to sell properties to people who need loans, the ownership of the
seawall is going to be an issue. Mr. Mills said they will definitely address this question,
and the nice thing is, because we have all the landscape buffers that we have, there is no
single lot that abuts the seawall. That is all common HOA space.
Ms. Battles asked if there will be a different conversation when the plat comes in. Ms.
Kautenburg said yes.
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Ms. Matthews asked who will maintain the area of the dog park. Ms. Bosworth said that
there will be something on the final plat where there will be language explaining who is it
dedicated to and who is responsible for the maintenance. She suggested that the
commissioners can make this question a part of tonight's motion.
There being no further questions or comments, Ms. Kautenburg called for a motion. A
motion approving the site plan development for Hawk's Landing for the 162 townhome
units with the conditions that staff has recommended and the addition of a condition that
we request that the HOA is responsible for the maintenance and upkeep for the public
areas in perpetuity was made by Ms. Battles and seconded by Ms. Kinchen.
Roll Call
Ms. Lorusso --
Yes
Mr. Reno (a) --
Yes
Ms. Battles --
Yes
Ms. Matthews
-- Yes
Vote was 7-0 in favor. Motion passes.
Ms. Kinchen -- Yes
Mr. Carter -- Yes
Ms. Kautenburg -- Yes
VII. Planninq and Zoninq (P&Z) Commission Public Hearings
1. Public Hearing -- Recommendation to City Council -- Preliminary Re -Plat --
Hawk's Landing Subdivision -- Replatting Blocks 581, 582, and 583 of
Sebastian Highlands Unit 17 to 162 Townhome Lots and Applicable Tracts for
a Proposed Multifamily Development with Access from Schumann Drive -- The
20.38-Acre Site is Located East of Schumann Drive, North & West of the Day
Drive Canal, and South of Dahl Avenue, Current Zoning is RM-8 (Residential
Multi -Family 8 DU/AC) and Current Land Use MDR (Medium Density
Residential)
Mr. Mai read the item into the record.
Ms. Kautenburg called for the presentation by the applicant.
Mr. Mills said he would not go through another presentation. He will be happy to answer
any question there may be.
Mr. Mann said staff would like to enter the presentation of this item into the record along
with the staff report in the previous item and the discussion points that staff have had. If
there are any questions, he will gladly answer them.
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Ms. Kautenburg called for anyone from the public who wishes to speak in favor of this
item. There being none, Ms. Kautenburg asked for anyone opposed to this item to speak.
There being none, Ms. Kautenburg closed this hearing, and the commissioners entered
into deliberation.
Mr. Reno wanted to reiterate regarding the right-of-way for the canal maintenance
easement along the seawall and the ownership of the seawall.
Ms. Battles suggested that the lines for the public dog park and trail tract might need to
follow the fence line. She said that on the plat, it cuts off at Lot 49. Mr. Mills said they
will update that with the final plat. Ms. Battles also addressed that, on the secondary
entrance tract, she thinks that line may need to go down to the proposed gate and maybe
the main entrance tract also. Mr. Mills said they will take a look at that. They are
finishing
up the final plat, so the surveyor will be giving it a good look and making sure everything
closes and is logical in that sense.
There being nothing further on this item, Ms. Kautenburg called for a motion.
A motion approving a recommendation to City Council the Preliminary Replat for Hawk's
Landing Subdivision with the additional four conditions as set forth in the Staff Report
regarding the Site Plan for Hawk's Landing Townhomes as well as the determination of
the ownership of the canal as set forth in the Preliminary Plat was made by Ms. Kinchen
and seconded by Ms. Battles. Ms. Battles then asked that the few small adjustments
that were just talked about regarding the entrance tract and the tract for the public dog
park and trails be included. Ms. Bosworth said these items will be reviewed when the plat
goes to City Council.
Roll Call
Ms. Battles
-- Yes
Ms. Lorusso
-- Yes
Ms. Kinchen
-- Yes
Mr. Reno --
Yes
Vote was 7-0 in favor. Motion passes.
Vill. Unfinished Business -- None
IX. New Business -- None
Mr. Carter -- Yes
Ms. Matthews -- Yes
Ms. Kautenburg -- Yes
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Mr. Carter commented that the staff and applicant did a great job working together on this
project.
Mr. Mann said that this is Ms. Matthews' last meeting as a Planning and Zoning
Commissioner, and on behalf of the staff thanked her for the time that she dedicated to
this Commission. Ms. Matthews thanked everyone, and she said she is looking forward
to the next chapter for her.
Ms. Lorusso asked regarding 669, Avenue and the widening project done by Indian River
County. She asked if the County has been in talks with the City regarding what will
happen as they get to our City limits.
Mr. Mann explained that the limits for the 66th Avenue project will end at County Road 510,
and it will not go into the City's jurisdiction. Ms. Bosworth added that there a couple of
County projects in the area north of 510 to Barber Street where both developers have been
working with the City Engineer, and they are looking to see if there is another turn lane
needed or how it is going to affect that intersection. Staff is also looking to get from that
developers a plan for some additional sidewalks along that section of Schumann
Drive/661h Avenue. Mr. Mann said that we should not expect the roundabout or traffic
circle probably for another three or four years at least.
X. Adiournment
There being no further business, Ms. Kautenburg adjourned the meeting at 7:05. p.m.
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• P&Z Commission — 5-0 Approval (May 2, 2024)
• City Council —(May 22,2024)
• City Council — 5-0 Approval (June 12, 2024)
• Conceptual Site Layout Review with City Planning Staff (November 19, 2024)
• Initial Submittal (February 10, 2025)
• Neighborhood Workshop (September 22, 2025)
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• Open Space Provided: 40.21% (8.19 ac)
Provided Native Preservation Area: 27% (4.04 ac)
Total Parking Spaces Provided: 352 Spaces
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