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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09092003 SEBASTIAN CONSTRUCTION BOARD REGULAR MEETING SEPTEMBER 9~ 2003 Meeting was call to order by Chairman Fox at 7:00 P.M. The Pledge of Allegiance was said. ROLL CALL: Present: V.C. Nicolini Mr. Garland Mr. Taylor Mr. Wolfe Chmn. Fox Mr. Gilligan Mr. Schmitz Absent: Mr. Davis - excused Mr. Houston - excused APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular Meeting of 8/12/03. MOTION by Wolfe/Garland I make a motion that the Board approve the minutes of 8/12/03. A voice vote was taken. 7 - 0, motion carried. OLD BUSINESS: None. NEW BUSINESS: Experior Exam Spallone, Ross, M./Residential Contractor Mr. Spallone was sworn in by Chmn. Fox. Mr. Taylor asked Mr. Spallone if he was a Florida resident at the present time. Mr. Spallone said not at the present time. He did say that he had Florida experience. He worked here in the late 70's, then for five months last year with a builder on the west coast and is currently employed by Dupont Builders. Mr. Taylor noted that all of his experience in their packet was from New York. Mr. Spallone said that licenses were not required and that there was a letter from New York stating this and also from the county in which he resided. He said they were regulated by Code Enforcement. Mr. Taylor felt he could not approve the application without some documented Florida experience. The Board Secretary explained that by Board ruling in the past that the experience from the 70's was too far back and since he currently still has an active business in New York that that was what she asked for to prove experience. Mr. Spallone noted that at the current time that he is a superintendent of residential construction for Dupont Builders. In regards to New York, Mr. Spallone told the Board that most of his work was remodeling but that he did do some construction of new residences. Mr. Garland felt that more proof of construction, such as letters from his suppliers, letters from people he had worked for or done construction for should be part of his application. Mr. Schmitz felt that the Board needed verification for the work done in Florida and that Mr. Spallone had knowledge of the Florida Building Codes. MOTION by Taylor/V.C. Nicolini I make a motion that the Board not approve Mr. Spallone's application but leave the window open to re-apply when he has verification of the proper experience. ROLLCALL: Mr. Schmitz - yes Mr. Gilligan - yes Mr. Taylor- yes Mr. Garland - yes Mr. Wolfe - yes V.C. Nicolini - yes Chmn. Fox - yes Motion carries 7 - 0. Ciccotto, Matthew C./Aluminum Unltd. Mr. Ciccotto was sworn in by Chmn. Fox MOTION by Taylor/Wolfe I make a motion that the Board approve Matthew Ciccotto to take the Experior Exam for Aluminum. ROLLCALL: V.C. Nicolini - yes Mr. Taylor- yes Mr. Gilligan - yes Mr. Wolfe - yes Mr. Garland - yes Chmn. Fox - yes Mr. Schmitz - yes Motion carries 7 - 0. Gordon, James R./Painting Mr. Gordon was sworn in by Chmn. Fox. MOTION by Taylor/Garland I make a motion that the Board approve James Gordon to take the Experior Exam for Painting. ROLL CALL: Mr. Taylor - yes Chmn. Fox - yes Mr. Garland - yes Mr. Schmitz - yes V.C. Nicolini - yes Mr. Wolfe - yes Mr. Gilligan - yes Motion carries 7 - 0. Weisbecker, Erik J./Painting Mr. Weisbecker was sworn in by Chmn. Fox. MOTION by Schmitz/Garland I make a motion that Erik Weisbecker be approved to take the Experior Exam for Painting. ROLL CALL: Chmn. Fox - yes Mr. Taylor - yes Mr. Schmitz - yes Mr. Gilligan - yes V.C. Nicolini - yes Mr. Garland - yes Mr. Wolfe - yes Motion carried 7 - 0. VIOLATION HEARINGS: None. BUILDING OFFICIAL MATTERS: None. BOARD MATTERS: Discussion: Complete Electric The Board Secretary told the Board that each member had received a copy of the papers they had received at the August meeting. It was noted that the Board was questioning the verification of experience that was signed by Mr. Guidroz for Robert Glenn Walker at a previous meeting. Mr. Guidroz was present at the meeting with Attorney Warren Dill. Attorney Dill told the Board that presently there is serious almost hateful dislike for Garrett by Edison Electric. He explained that in 1999, Garrett hired Russ Ensell as his general manager. Prior to that, Russ was general manager for Edison Electric. Garrett had heard through a sales representative that Russ was looking to move, find new employment. Having heard this, Garrett got in touch with the sales representative who acted as a liaison between him and Russ. At that time he hired Russ. When he was hired there were 11 other electricians working for Edison Electric that were not happy there and wanted to leave along with one secretary. Garrett ended up hiring all 12 people. Since that time there has been an issue between these two firms. Attorney Dill noted that Garrett did not go soliciting these people, they came to him. In January, 2001, Glen Walker went to work for Edison Electric. He worked there for about a year. Even though he was very good friends with Garrett, at that time he lived in Merritt Island and it was too far to come to work for Garrett. He eventually moved to Palm Bay. When he did he left Edison and came to work for Garrett adding further fuel between the relationship between the two companies. Attorney Dill noted that there were various errors in the letters the Board has that can be substantiated and documented if necessary. When Glen was applying for his exam he asked Edison Electric for a letter of verification which they refused to give him. Garrett knowing Glen all these years knew Edison Electric and knew what Glen had done for Edison Electric. When Glen told Garrett about this problem, Garrett verified his employment. Garrett never intended to do anything improper. He had known Glen for years and knew he had the experience and qualifications to act as an electrical contractor. The only error Garrett made was one in judgment when he put down on the verification sheet January, '98 to February 2003 for Glen's time of experience. Garrett has known Glen since 1992. Glen has worked for and along side Garrett since that time. Chmn. Fox asked if he has known him or worked for him since (inaudible). Attorney Dill said Garrett has known Glen since 1988 but that Glen Walker has worked for Garrett from time to time since 1992. This was the error in judgment he made. Glen had the experience and Garrett knew he had the time and experience. Because Garrett was in a hurry to get this application in to be put on the agenda, rather than trying to figure out all of the old dates, he just quickly put down some years because he knew Glen had the experience. It was never his intent to put somebody out there, allow somebody to sit for an exam that didn't know what they were doing. Some of the time Glen worked with Garrett since 1992 was during the summers, some of the time was full time, some of the time was off and on when Garrett needed some assistance. Attorney Dill passed out four letters to the Board, which he read into the minutes. One of the letters was from Dave McCoy who worked for Edison and worked with Glen. He noted that the point behind these letters is to show the experience factor. The next three letters were from electrical contractors in Indian River County, Sebastian, that have worked with Glen Walker since 1992. These letters substantiate what Garrett put down on the application to take the Master Electrician Exam. These Electrical Contractors are documenting the experience from 1992 to 1997 that Mr. Walker has. The point is that this man does have the experience and qualifications to take the examination. It was noted that the men who wrote these letters were employed by G & B Electric. This was Garrett's electrical company up until four years ago when he started a whole new company. The Board Secretary asked Garrett if he owned G & B and if Glen was employed by him. Garrett was asked to come to the microphone. Chron. Fox swore him in. Again the Board Secretary asked if he owned G & B when Glen was employed by him at that time. Garrett answered yes. She noted that actually he should have put down on his application that he was employed by G & B. The time being shown is still the same amount of time, just not in the time span you are saying. Garrett answered yes. Mr. Garland noted that the Board did not have knowledge of this. What we saw was another company and Brevard County saying that Glenn did not work for him in those years. That made the paperwork we had at the meeting when he was approved to take the test no good. Garrett explained that it was not his intention to do that. He only had two days to get his paperwork to Kathy for the meeting. Mr. Taylor asked that since Garrett had a state license, what type of penalty could the Board assess. The Board Secretary explained that the only thing the Board could do was to stop his permit pulling privileges. Mr. Garland felt that this was just something that happened and could find no reason to pursue this since he gotten a full explanation. MOTION by Taylor/Garland I make a motion the Board accept the explanation from Mr. Guidroz. ROLLCALL: V.C. Nicolini - no Mr. Garland - yes Mr. Taylor - yes Mr. Wolfe - yes Chmn. Fox - yes Mr. Gilligan - yes Mr. Schmitz - yes Motion carded 6 - 1. ATTORNEY MATTERS: None Scores were recorded in the scorebook by Mr. Schmitz and Mr. Gilligan. 15 MINUTES TO THE PUBLIC: Richard Waltermire stated that he was an electrical contractor in Indian River County but that he did not get a high enough score to work in Sebastian. He explained that the supervisor that he had at the school district where he worked up until two weeks ago has not come through with the letters he needed to take the test to work in Sebastian. He explained that he had two letters from the school district but not a letter from the contractor with his license number on it since he did not work for the school as a contractor. He noted that he was an electrician for the school district and ran a service truck for them for nine years. He told the Board that he has been a journeyman in Sebastian for 10 years. He stated that he worked for Tripp Electric for 5 years and 4 months. There is a letter on file in the Building Department showing this. The Board told Mr. Waltermire to complete an application and come to the meeting in October for approval. There was a lengthy discussion concerning people coming from out of state to be approved to be tested for licensing in the state of Florida. Experience from out of state is acceptable but each applicant must be dealt with on a case to case basis. This is determined by the Board from the information on the application. It was noted that Meredith Fox and Scott Taylor have submitted letters stating they were not seeking reappointment to the Construction Board. The Board Secretary told them that she enjoyed working with them and would miss them. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:45 P.M.