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COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY (CRA)
(CITY COUNCIL)
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, MAY 9, 2007 - 5:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
1. Mayor Coy called the CommunityRedevelopment Agency Meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Mayor Andrea Coy
Vice Mayor Sal Neglia
Council Member AI Paternoster
Council Member Dale Simchick
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Staff Present:
City Manager, AI Minner
City Attorney, Rich Stringer
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Deputy City Clerk, Jeanette Williams
City Engineer, Dave Fisher
Finance Director, Shai Francis
Growth Management Director, Rebecca Grohall
Police Chief, Jim Davis
Airport Director, Joe Griffin
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - 3/28/07 Meeting
On MOTION by Mr. Neglia and SECOND by Ms. Simchick, the 3/28/07 CRA Minutes
were approved on a voice vote of 5-0.
CRA Meeting
May 9, 2007
Page Two
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A.
The City Manager cited his prior approval from Council to begin negotiations with
Schulke, Bittle and Stoddard, and briefly described two phases: $190,000 for design
and $46,000 for professional design, permitting and construction services. He added the
proposal does include $8,100 worth of services that may not be needed. He said these
services have been matched to 10-15% of the project cost and he recommended
approval of the proposal.
Joseph Schulke stated it is a comprehensive proposal and the City Manager hit on the
major items.
Mr. Schulke confirmed for Mr. Paternoster that items may still be changed in the
proposal with public input.
Mr. Neglia asked about the use of thermal paint which was deferred by Council with a
previous project because of cost. The City Attorney said this could be removed at a later
date.
Ms. Simchick stated she would like to preserve the Hardee tree, and asked Mr. Schulke
if the price could be lowered. Mr. Schulke explained the proposal includes all possible
necessities for the project and said he would save whenever possible.
Mr. Neglia asked about the signal design on Main Street. Mr. Schulke said by going to
four lanes, the control panel would need to be re-designed, and a mast arm system may
be preferred at the intersection. The City Manager added the increase is because of
anticipated transportation improvements that may be required at the intersection and the
cost is at the high-end but may end up to be lower.
Clive Beckwith, speaking on behalf of the Sebastian Property Owners Association
(SPOA), said he was the only individual who is to act as liaison to the Council from
SPOA, said he was assured that the concern for the bidding process was explained
tonight, and requested that the public be more involved in the project by publishing the
site plan in the newspaper.
Mayor Coy responded that two public hearings with conceptual drawings have occurred,
and Mr. Schulke is planning two workshops.
Mr. Beckwith said the property owners hoped the vote would be tabled.
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Page Three
Ms. Simchick clarified the property owners' concerns are major landscaping changes
and holding a public workshop which have been addressed because this is conceptual
at this point and workshops will take place.
The City Attorney added that circle page 25 outlined "two public workshops, then the
design of a conceptual plan."
Mr. Beckwith said he would take the response back to the property owners.
Joe Scozzari said as a roofing contractor by trade, profit is usually built into proposals
and he has been told the project can be done for about $165,000.
Mayor Coy stated the procurement for professional services is outlined in the Florida
Statutes and this is not a bid for a contract, but a request for qualifications.
Damien Gilliams stated the City can reject proposals if taxpayer money can be better
spent and thanked Ms. Simchick for requesting a lower proposal. He said this should
be further negotiated with a set price.
Mr. Gilliams asked for it to go out to bid and Mayor Coy responded that it has been
explained that this cannot go out to bid. He asked why it could not go out for bid and
she asked him to have a seat. Mr. Gilliams asked for a point of order then a vote.
Mayor Coy gave him a second and third warning.
Ms. Simchick said it was made clear at the last meeting that if Council did not like this
price they were to look at the second qualified engineer, not a bid. Mr. Gilliams said that
is what he meant. Mayor Coy asked him to take his seat.
Mayor Coy asked if anyone else would like to comment and there was no one.
Mr. Wolff voiced his objection to the CCNA process which has staff members grading
who is qualified. He stated staff members noted Mr. Schulke's ties to the community
and they submitted a conceptual drawing. He asked how the City can get best value
when the cost of the services are based on a drawing that no one has had any input on
and compared it to the proverbial $500.00 government hammer. Mr. Wolff said funds
will be extremely tight and every penny should be looked at.
Mr. Neglia asked if Mr. Schulke could go above $236,000 in the recommended motion.
The City Manager said Mr. Schulke can go up to $236,000 and staff will have the
responsibility to manage the project. Mr. Neglia said he would like to add that in a
motion.
Mr. Paternoster said there should be public input on design.
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Page Four
Mayor Coy reminded members that the other proposals were reviewed and commented
on by the public; and Council directed the City Manager to pursue Mr. Schulke and if
Council was not happy, the next engineer should be looked at.
Mr. Wolff said staff chose Mr. Schulke and Council capitulated to staff; and none of the
other proposals were discussed by Council.
In response, Mr. Minner explained the City's retained engineering firm was hired to make
some drawings and it was decided to retain an engineer to design a project that could be
permitted and additional public input was sought. He further explained staff, with a
comprehensive 70 years of experience, chose the most qualified engineer, a price was
negotiated and he recommended either to accept the proposal or direct him to negotiate
with the second engineer.
Mr. Paternoster asked if drawings were included in the RFQ package. Mr. Schulke
explained they were and his firm received points for improving upon those drawings and
knowing what the City wanted.
The City Manager added he is sensitive to Council's concern with the cost of capital
improvement projects and he has been cognizant of this and made every effort to ensure
the City is receiving the best for their dollar; and attempted to give all of the costs upfront
to minimize change orders.
Mayor Coy said there has been public input given to her and Mr. Neglia from the
beginning.
Mr. Gilliams stood and raised his hand to speak and Mayor Coy told him the public input
was over, he continued to stand and raise his hand. He was warned to take his seat
twice, and when he refused he was asked to leave the room. He did not sit down so
Chief Davis escorted him out.
Mr. Wolff explained he had trouble understanding how the City can write a check for
$236,000, up to the cents on a conceptual drawing.
Mayor Coy asked him what he would like to do. In response Mr. Wolff said he would like
to have heard a ballpark figure or other options the City might have. He asked the City
Manager for a benchmark.
The City Manager said the money is going to be spent on a professional engineering
firm to design and engineer a major capital improvement and it was benchmarked with
experienced staff that reviewed the submitted plans and ranked them with the rule of
thumb that professional services are 12% of overall cost.
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Page Five
On MOTION by Ms. Simchick, and SECOND by Mr. Neglia, the Indian River Drive/Main
Street Professional Services Agreement professional services agreement was awarded
to Schulke, Bittle and Stoddard in the amount of $236,117, to include language on page
13, paragraph 2, task 2 -"not to exceed."
Mr. Neglia said he was not happy with the process because it was not bid. He said
perhaps some fat can be cut during construction.
On a roll call vote of 3-2 the motion carried. (Paternoster, Wolff -nay)
6. NEW BUSINESS
None.
7. Being no further business, Mayor Coy adjourned the CRA meeting at 6:19 p.m.
Approved at the J U~ e ~ 7 ~o?~ ?CRA meeting.
Andrea Coy, Mayor
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~~" ally A. Maio, MMC -City Clerk
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