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SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 23, 2008 - 7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
Mayor Coy called the Regular Meeting to order at 8:15 p.m. The Community
Redevelopment Agency meeting held prior to this meeting did not adjourn until 8:00 p.m.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Council Member Simchick.
3. There was a moment of silence.
4. Council Member Simchick read the Civility Pledge.
We will be respectful of one another even when we disagree. We will direct all comments to the
issues. We will avoid personal attacks.
5. ROLL CALL
City Council Present:
Mayor Andrea Coy
Vice-Mayor Sal Neglia
Council Member AI Paternoster
Council Member Dale Simchick
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Staff Present:
City Manager, AI Minner
City Attorney, Rich Stringer
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Deputy City Clerk, Jeanette Williams
Airport Director, Joseph Griffin
City Engineer, David Fisher
Police Chief, Jim Davis
Police Lieutenant, Michelle Morris
Police Lieutenant, Greg Witt
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6. AGENDA MODIFICATIONS
Modifications and additions require unanimous vote of City Council members
Mr. Paternoster noted the addition of item D on the consent agenda for an additional day
for the Rotary Club Home Show at Riverview Park. Mayor Coy noted this was added
before the packet went out on Friday. Voice vote of 5-0 officially added the item.
7. PROCLAMATIONS, AWARDS, BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENTS
Presentations of proclamations, certificates and awards, and brief timely announcements by Council and
Staff. No public input or action under this heading.
A. Recoanition of the Passina of Cora Sembler Sadler 1911-2008
Mayor Coy read a brief tribute to Cora Sembler Sadler, whose family moved to
Sebastian in the early 1900's and who contributed to the written history of Sebastian,
"Tales of Sebastian", when she served as President of the Sebastian River Area
Historical Society.
Brief Announcements
Ms. Simchick announced the Sebastian River Area Historical Society open house/
membership drive and antique auto show at the old schoolhouse on February 2, 2008.
Mr. Wolff announced a program to dispose of electronic equipment which will be held at
the Indian River Mall parking lot on January 26, 2008 from 9 am to 3 pm.
Mayor Coy announced the joint School Concurrency workshop meeting of all Indian
River County Commission, School Board and municipalities on January 31, 2008 at 2
pm at Indian River Community College Mueller Center. The Clerk noted the agenda
backup will be posted on the City website.
Mayor Coy announced the Sebastian Property Owners Association open house to
introduce the new Sebastian River Medical Center CEO on February 4, 2008 at 7 pm.
Mayor Coy announced that Katie Nall with Indian River Community College has
announced that there are 274 registrations for the current semester of classes in the old
schoolhouse and that other classes will start mid-semester. She said Ms. Nall can be
reached at 226-2525 for further information.
Mayor Coy noted her a-mail address has changed from earthlink.net to bellsouth.net but
she prefers to speak to people and they can reach her at 388-0961. She said early
voting has been a success and will continue through this Saturday in the old
schoolhouse.
Mr. Neglia thanked Mr. Wolff and reported further on the KIRB sponsored recycling of
electronic equipment at the Indian River Mall parking lot near Macy's noting no
microwaves or smoke detectors will be taken.
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Mr. Neglia reported on the Emergency Services District Advisory Committee meeting,
noting that station #9 on US 1 will be moving to Roseland Road, that the Barber Street
station may get an Advanced Life Support truck, that 911 is doing well in Sebastian, that
they may tear down the old US 1 station when the new station is done, and possibly talk
to the City of Sebastian about the use of the land. He reported on the Treasure Coast
League of Cities meeting at which mining issues were discussed and concerns
expressed.
8. CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the consent agenda are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no
separate discussion of consent agenda items unless a member of City Council so requests; in which event, the
item will be removed and acted upon separately. If a member of the public wishes to provide input on a
consent agenda item, he/she should request a Council Member to remove the item for discussion prior to start
of the meeting or by raising his/her hand to be recognized.
3-14 A. Approval of Minutes - 1/9/08 Regular Meeting
08.008 B. William and Mary Ingui - 626 Layport Drive -Deed to City- Reimbursement of
15-19 $792.39 and Adopt Resolution No. R-08-202 Repealing Vacation of Easement
R-98-20 (City Attorney Transmittal, Deed, R-08-02)
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA, RESCINDING RESOLUTION
R-98-20; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
08.009 C. Authorize the Purchase of Five Crown Victoria Vehicles from Duvall Ford in the
21-33 Amount of $127,740 and Five Chevrolet Trailblazers from Alan Jay Automotive
Network in the Amount of $143,792 -Both Purchases to be Made Under Florida
Sheriff's Association State Contract #07-15-0827 (PD Transmittal, Bid Info)
D. Riverview Park Use Request -Rotary Home Show -Additional Day -Sunday,
March 30, 2008 (City Manager Transmittal 1/18)
Mr. Paternoster removed item A for a resident.
MOTION by Ms. Simchick and SECOND by Mr. Neglia to approve items B, C and D of
the consent agenda.
Roll call vote was as follows:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5-0
Mr. Paternoster cited circle page ten of the packet and called Chuck Lever to the
podium. Mr. Lever corrected his input on page as follows: "I had watched the County
meeting and they asked the question about Old Dixie Highway and what we were going
to do with Old Dixie Highway."
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MOTION by Ms. Simchick and SECOND by Mr. Paternoster to amend the minutes.
Voice Vote on the motion carried 5-0.
9. COMMITTEE REPORTS ~ APPOINTMENTS
City committee reports and Council Member regional committee reports. No public input or action except for
City committee member nominations and appointments under this heading.
None.
10. PUBLIC HEARINGS -None
11. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
08.010 A. Collier Creek Canal Project Update (City Manager Transmittal, Previous
35-39 U dates
The City Manager sought guidance from Council regarding the potential of advertising
an RFP for seawalls for the Collier Creek Canal project. He said staff had been
approached after the rip rap proposals had come in by an individual who said that walls
could be done for an affordable cost. He said there would be a need for additional
engineering costs for engineers CDM in an approximate amount of $5900 to prepare the
specifications and $7300 for them to respond to questions from firms preparing
proposals. He requested approval to have the RFP prepared, obtain proposals and bring
back a report to Council comparing numbers for the wall and rip rap proposals in mid
March. He said there may be need for approximately $15,000 more in engineering costs
to review the engineering plans submitted for a possible cost of $30,000 for additional
engineering. He stated that material being considered is vinyl composite to be placed in
front of the existing asbestos walls and capped.
Public Input
Mr. Gilliams, 1623 US 1, said he told Council to go with vinyl walls previously
William Thompson, Wimbrow Drive, Sebastian, said walls will save money in the long
run because they will require no maintenance.
Dean Quick, Layport Drive, Sebastian, asked if the new seawalls will go deeper into the
ground to prevent washout. The City Manager said he would address these concerns
after input.
Brad White, Easy Street, Sebastian, questioned if rip rap was considered best for the
environment, why are we going to seawalls which was considered least environmentally
friendly.
Bob Audette, Wimbrow Drive, Sebastian, thanked the City Manager and asked if the bird
mitigation costs for Hardee have been broken out which would not have to be
accomplished if we go with seawalls. He noted that the surface area mitigation concern
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was not properly answered by CDM and will come up again. He asked if the canal is at a
lower level will there need to be new calculations done.
Samuel Spear, 518 Layport Drive, Sebastian, said water standing between his and Mr.
Quick's yard needs to be looked at.
William Thompson, said walls were considered the best environmentally.
Brenda Terry, 561 Barber Street, said she preferred walls which take less property and
rocks are dangerous.
Bob Harkins, 662 Layport Drive, said he was in favor of walls.
The City Manager said it was intended to build walls high enough to entomb the existing
walls and specs will address water getting behind the walls. He said the method ranking
was as follows: #1 Florida natural -grass and weeds; #2 walls; #3 rip rap; and #4 grass.
He said the canal is actually at a higher level of 15.5 feet at present rather than its
natural level of 14.7 feet, briefly mentioned that assessments may have to be discussed
again, and that no promises are being made tonight.
In response to questions from Council, the City Manager reiterated the intent was to
entomb the walls and go deep enough into the canal so as not to cause a backwash and
trash issue; ensured that we will make sure we are building something that will not fall
apart and is safe; said that numbers need to be in reach when a concern was expressed
about using up DST funds; and discussed the fact that spoils will still be an issue but we
may have found areas so we may not need to use Hardee Park. He then recommended
approval for staff to move forward to prepare specs and request RFPs for walls. As to
assessments, he was asked to try to negotiate something that won't require them.
MOTION by Mr. Neglia and SECOND by Mr. Paternoster to have the City Manager and
City Engineer to go ahead and come back with some RFPs and get own with the project.
Roll call vote was as follows:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5-0
Mayor Coy called recess from 9:30 pm to 9:45 pm. All members were present
08.011 B. Staff Report on Possible South Prong and River Pollution Within City Due to
4~-52 Proposed Wild Turkey Rock Mining -Requested at 12/12/07 Meeting (City
Manager Transmittal, GMD Report, IRC SDD Letter)
Harvey Wheeler, Seahouse Street, Sebastian, and member of Natural Resources
Report gave a brief report on the committee's view that there is a risk of a negative
environmental impact to the City of Sebastian with mining, and the committee hopes the
Council will speak through the committee in opposing the Wild Turkey Mine project.
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He said there was no mention of contaminants included in Wild Turkey's report which
will expose the aquifer to contamination, discussed a court case for mining projects in
Miami-Dade which cites benzene contamination, expressed concern for stormwater
runoff risk, subsurface water table risk, drop in water table, and soils contamination. He
asked that any materials received by staff or Council be shared with the Natural
Resources Board. He said the risk to the environment from this project is too great, that
he knows road material has to come from somewhere but not from where the aquifer will
be compromised.
Donna Keyes, US 1, Sebastian, and member of Indian River County Planning and
Zoning, said her committee will meet tomorrow night in Vero Beach and she would be
interested in seeing the information he presented regarding benzene. In response to
Council, she said the State has formed a task force to address mining issues and their
report will be presented to the Governor on February 1, 2008.
Virginia Koerner, Chairperson of Natural Resources Board, further cited the Miami-Dade
case and encouraged Council to read it. She stated benzene comes from trucks and
equipment as well as explosives. She encouraged Council to read the document, which
is also in Laserfiche on the City's website, and stated seven of 15 mines in Miami-Dade
had to be closed.
Russell Hermann, Friends of the Sebastian River, expressed concern for impacts of the
Wild Turkey mine to the canal and St. Sebastian River.
Mr. Wheeler, in response to Council Member Wolff, said to get coquina out of the six to
eight foot level below ground that it is located, you insert blast holes and then reach in
with equipment or chemical fractures can be made. Mr. Wolff said there are too many
potential negative impacts for him to support the mine.
Ms. Keyes said she will not know what direction the IRC P & Z will be taking until the
meeting, that she is anxious to hear more information but will know better after tomorrow
night who she can speak to under the Sunshine Law. She said the IRC mining
moratorium is six months and the State caps such a moratorium at 12 months.
Mayor Coy said she asked Commissioner Wheeler what the City Council can do at this
point and he said he was confident there will be substantial changes made to the County
code and did not ask the City to anything at this time.
Ms. Keyes noted that 26 counties in Florida are currently dealing with mining issues.
Mayor Coy asked Mr. Wheeler if his was a written report and he said he worked from an
outline. She advised we watch what the State tells us, and perhaps a letter could be
sent stating we would not support the mine, but then said maybe we could keep this
open-ended until we see what the County comes up with and the State has to say. She
said we need to start monitoring the south prong of the St. Sebastian River.
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Mr. Neglia read from the Growth Management report, said Indian River County is on top
of it and we can make sure Council gets updated information.
MOTION by Mr. Paternoster and SECOND by Mr. Neglia to extend the meeting to 11
pm. Voice vote on the motion carried 5-0.
Mr. Paternoster said Joe Paladin had said that blasting was not allowed in the subject
area and he would like someone to check into this with the County. He said the issue is
in the capable hands of the County and we should wait for the February 1St Task Force
report and lend the County support.
Ms. Simchick said she would have liked to have been notified of this application by the
County, staff did a good job of answering her questions, and she was impressed with
NRB, agreed with base line monitoring and would like to see IRC do monitoring of the
canal. She asked the City Manager for statistics on water monitoring the City is doing as
reported by Marge Reynolds. She recommended directing NRB to have this as a
project, keep it ongoing on its agendas, and coordinate with staff.
The City Manager said it is a good thing to use NRB to represent the City of Sebastian
on this, but also said Council needs to clarify that it is a unified front on this issue and its
voice should be heard as one. He said using NRB will free up staff and you have willing
volunteers.
Ms. Koerner requested that the large Miami-Dade case be copied to each member of the
committee and it was the consensus of Council to have staff do so.
MOTION by Ms. Simchick and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to select the Natural Resources
Board monitor, update, report back to us further information on the application for
coquina rock mining in Indian River County.
Mr. Neglia asked to add "with the assistance of Growth Management" and Mayor Coy
added the "Environmental Specialist" and Mr. Paternoster added "including the 178 page
Miami/Dade report."
Roll call vote was as follows:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5-0
It was the consensus of Council to wait for more information before they express
concerns to Indian River County.
12. PUBLIC INPUT
Public Input for each individual is five minutes, however, it can be extended or terminated by a majority vote
of Council members present.
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Damien Gilliams, 1623 US 1, said we need a citizens academy, spoke about the vacant
building where the Indian River College used to hold classes and said we are
subsidizing the Mayor's college. He remarked, "rah, rah, rah," and the Mayor gave him a
second warning. (Mr. Gilliams first warning happened at the preceding Community
Redevelopment Agency meeting.) Mr. Gilliams thanked City Manager for coming to his
property, asked Mr. Wolff to continue to look into the T-line at the airport, noted the Main
Street project is more than $1.9 million, asked to put checks on website, said the City
should listen to people in regard to Collier Creek, asked why the City didn't bid out the
bank holding the $2 million from the State Board of Administration, talked about DST
money.
Todd Klitenic, Barber Street, Sebastian, asked why the ditches were being cut in
January when two members of Council recommended against cutting outside of the
growing season. In response to Mr. Paternoster, the City Manager said he would
provide Conlon's schedule to City Council members.
13. NEW BUSINESS
08.013 A. Sebastian River High School Student Presentation -Crime and Drug Use
PreVentlon (backup previously given)
Mayor Coy said the students left due to the length of the meeting, and she had told them
they would be up first on February 13, 2008.
08.014 B. Set Bi-Annual Goals and Objectives for City Manager, City Attorney and City Clerk
53 As Required by Resolution R-07-31 (City Clerk Transmittal)
MOTION by Mr. Wolff and SECOND by Mr. Paternoster this item was moved to
February 13, 2008.
The City Clerk requested that her goals and objectives be moved to February 27th since
she would not be in attendance on February 13tH
Voice vote on the motion carried 5-0.
MOTION by Mr. Paternoster and SECOND by Ms. Simchick to move City Clerk goals
and objectives to February 27, 2008. Voice vote on the motion carried 5-0.
14. CITY ATTORNEY MATTERS
The City Attorney said he would forward a memo to Council outlining the projects he is
working on.
He wished Council Member Simchick a happy birthday.
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15. CITY MANAGER MATTERS
None.
16. CITY CLERK MATTERS
The City Clerk again noted she would be out of town and not present for the February
13, 2008 meeting.
17. CITY COUNCIL MATTERS
A. Mr. Paternoster
Mr. Paternoster asked the City Manger about the Public Works flatbed and boat not in
use mentioned at the last meeting. The City Manager said he did not have any new
information.
The City Manager updated Council on T-1 line, that it will stream but not live, it needs a
server upgrade with additional costs for live broadcast on computer.
The City Attorney updated Council on the vegetation ordinance, that the U.S. Fish and
Wildlife doesn't like the proposed language, but he will bring it back with a
recommendation to do it anyway. He said he will have their letter forwarded to City
Council and then go from there.
B. Ms. Simchick
Ms. Simchick asked for the individual who called her about noise at Capt'n Hirams to call
her again.
Said she would like to put slitter-free event clause in future festival contracts and
perhaps this needed to be an agenda item.
Reported that she received a letter from Friends of Roseland, noting our City affects
their quality of life and recommended formation of a citizens advisory committee for the
airport to balance with economic development issues and suggested this come back for
discussion on an agenda.
C. Mr. Wolff
Mr. Wolff reported on the 7th Annual Sebastian River Fine Arts and Music Festival this
Saturday and Sunday in Riverview Park.
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D. Mayor Coy
Stated it may not be too late to have alitter-free event with KIRB at the Fine Arts Festival
this weekend.
E. Mr. Neglia
Mr. Neglia asked that regulations for park use that Council had asked about before be
placed on an agenda.
18. Being no further business, Mayor Coy adjourned the Regular Meeting at 11 p.m.
Approved at the February 1~h, 2008 Regular City Council Meeting.
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