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COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY (CRA)
(CITY COUNCIL)
AGENDA
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 23, 2008 - 5:30 pm
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN ST, SEBASTIAN, FL
Mayor Coy called the CRA Meeting to order at 5:30 p.m.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. ROLL CALL
City Council Present:
Mayor Andrea Coy
Vice-Mayor Sal Neglia
Council Member AI Paternoster
Council Member Dale Simchick
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Staff Present:
City Manager, AI Minner
City Attorney, Rich Stringer
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Deputy City Clerk, Jeanette Williams
Airport Director, Joseph Griffin
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. 8/22/07 Meeting
B. 9/19/07 Meeting
On MOTION by Mr. Neglia and SECOND by Ms. Simchick the 8/22/07 and 9/19/07
minutes were approved with a unanimous voice vote.
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Update on Indian River Drive/Main Street Protect (Schulke Update, Drawing,
Facility Location Alternate Plans A-D, Dept of Army No Permit Required
Verification, SJRWMD Letter, Bio-Tech Letter)
Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting
January 23, 2008
Page Two
The City Manager stated there are two unresolved issues: #1-Restroom
facility and #2-the Hardee Oak. He said a second arborist's opinion was that the
tree may be salvageable.
Joseph Schulke, Schulke, Bittle and Stoddard, Project Engineer stated he has
been working on the project for eight months and distributed an update with
sketches and a set of 11 x 17 construction drawings to each member. He
explained the Boudrot dock submerged land lease was exchanged for an
observation pier lease in the City's name with St. Johns River Water Management
District (SJRWMD).
Mr. Schulke said in response to Council, several bathroom locations were shown
with a smaller building which will not affect the SJRWMD permit since it is a
decrease in pervious surface.
Mr. Schulke then explained early plans were prepared with the Hardee Oak tree as
the focal point because of its historical value and in September an alternate plan
was submitted with a fountain as the focal point. Mr. Schulke said he did prepare a
plan to save the tree if it was directed by City Council. With the site plan on the
overhead projection, he explained that a plan shared with Larry Vickers an arborist
with Jimmy's Tree Service, included matching the grades as much as possible,
place a stamped structural slab on the west side so the soil and roots would not be
tilled, remove north/south pavement as carefully as possible, aerate and mulch
around it, treat the tree now for root growth, fertilizer, and boring insects and during
construction, place a barricade around the tree.
He said the first arborist did not have the benefit of the proposed plan, the City's
code, believed significant grade changes would occur, the tree would not be
prepared; leading to his opinion that the tree would not survive construction.
In response to the City Manager's question of tearing up the road, Mr. Schulke
explained that conduits could be placed under the road for the future if the tree
does not survive and a fountain is installed. He asked that if Council could give
direction on bathroom location, the tree, hiring an arborist now, he would then
move forward with the landscape design plans, submit it to Planning & Zoning
Commission, meet with the County on signalization, submit civil landscape plans to
Council, resubmit any revisions and then seek approval for site work bidding.
Mr. Robert Pliska stated the project is not needed and a city wide development
plan is needed beginning on the south side of the City and worked up to the north.
Ruth Sullivan, Indian River Drive, said this is a boating community and the Yacht
Club was developed to encourage boaters to move to Sebastian. She said the
bathroom by the ramp would slow the boat traffic and suggested placing the
bathroom by the Chamber building.
Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting
January 23, 2008
Page Three
Chuck Lever suggested using the tax money to fix up US1, Indian River Drive,
remove the CITGO Station, put in finger docks, have a shuttle service and
concession stand for the boaters. He also said nothing in the plan suggests a
benefit to businesses or residents and presented 230 more signatures against the
project. (Mr. Lever submitted the petition to the City Clerk, see cover page
attached)
Cindy Falco-DiCorrado, owner of the Victorian Lady, was shocked to hear of the
proposal to make a concrete parking lot for boaters, and there are many other
people in the community who have needs.
Harry Tanner, Belfast Terrace talked about Capt. Robert Hardee who planted the
landmark tree in 1891. He asked to save the tree.
Lisanne Monier, property owner, CRA business owner, said a vision needs to start
with a focal point and this is incredible beginning and other things will follow.
Richard Gilmore, 744 Kroegel Street, said change without a vision is bad change
and the current situation is unsafe from a boater's point of view.
Tom Collins, riverfront property owner, taxpayer, has been opposed to the project,
said it would be a waste of prime real estate since boat trailers will sit from sunrise
to sunset and there will not be retail activity from these boaters. He suggested
installing a breakwater for the existing marina or boat lifts so that the boats could
stay in the water, freeing up the dock. He also pointed out that the Yacht Club
could be leased out, and asnack/bait shop added. (Mr. Collins provided
documents to the City Clerk for distribution to Council)
John Drawe, Sebastian sailboat owner, requested the overhead power lines be
removed for tall sailboats which will make the area a lot safer.
William Schulke, Larkspur Street, past Power Squadron commander, stated in the
last year the Power Squadron has certified 1200 boaters in Sebastian and Vero
Beach. He said he is aware of many people trying to grow Hardee acorns.
Damien Gilliams, stated this is bad for the Village shops, the Mayor is going to do
what she wants because Mr. Schulke donated to her campaign. The Mayor issued
his first warning.
Louise Kautenburg said this is probably not the highest and best use for this
property but whatever is done will probably be wrong a hundred years from now
but it will be changeable. She also said boating is important to this community.
Beth Mitchell read a letter of support from the Chamber of Commerce Board of
Directors into the record. She also said the number one benefit of the project is
that it will create a destination point for our community. (see attached)
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January 23, 2008
Page Four
Todd Klitenic, Barber Street, said this may not be the right thing to do because 50-
60 spaces are needed for boats. He pointed out that Council voted against
$350,000 for the Archie Smith fish house which would have helped commercial
fishermen but is supporting this $2,000,000 project for recreational fishermen.
Bill Bodon, Easy Street, said this project will provide benefits to the community and
once completed will be a crowning impact to business in our community.
With the hour being 7:00, Mayor Coy suggested extending the meeting for a half
hour after a ten minute break. Mr. Wolff suggested continuing the meeting at
another time. Ms. Simchick agreed with the Mayor. Mr. Neglia wanted to finish the
meeting. Mr. Paternoster wanted to look to another meeting.
MOTION by Ms. Simchick and SECOND by Mayor Coy to extend the meeting for
another half hour.
Results of the voice vote are as follows:
Ayes: Coy, Simchick, Neglia
Nayes: Paternoster, Wolff
Carried 3-2
A recess was called at 7:02 p.m. and upon return at 7:12 p.m., all members were
present.
Mayor Coy stated the purpose of the meeting is to consider the update and give
direction and if a member wanted to go in another direction a motion should be
made.
Mr. Neglia suggested making the utility closet a breezeway on the bathroom
design.
Mr. Paternoster pointed out there has not been any accidents at the ramp, this will
create a stacking problem from US1 onto Main Street. He suggested using the
money for facades, landscaping, directional signs to fix up the area instead of a
parking lot.
The Mayor asked him to stay on the update and asked if he wanted to make
motion. Mr. Paternoster said he wanted to continue what he was saying. The
Mayor gaveled him. He said he is a representative of the people. The Mayor
called for a point of order. Mr. Paternoster said he would continue to talk. Mayor
asked the record to show that this was inconsiderate for his fellow Council
Members and asked him to make a motion if he wanted to do so.
MOTION by Mr. Paternoster and SECOND by Ms. Simchick to extend the meeting
for another thirty minutes. Voice vote carried 5-0.
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Page Five
Mr. Paternoster said there has to be something for people to do, promote
businesses, put amenities on the riverfront such as a tram/jitney to get people
around.
Ms. Simchick asked if CRA meetings have time limits. The City Attorney said there
are no formal procedures for CRA meetings and technically the motion was for "not
to start the Council meeting at 7:00 p.m."
Ms. Simchick said she liked the bathroom location on circle page 25 and the tree's
purpose is to preserve history and the City is obligated to save the tree.
Mr. Wolff said the project is too expensive, 27 boat spaces will fill early in the
morning and it was preposterous to think that the spaces will provide benefits. He
pointed out the second arborist has a vested interest in the Oak and he did not
support putting the tree on life support. He suggested putting up a plaque to
remember the Hardee Oak.
The Mayor said the project has been in the works for four years, we've had
21 public meetings and the plan has evolved over time. She pointed out that it will
provide 39 car spaces which will help shops, and the parking spaces and restroom
are amenities. She liked the bathroom location south on the riverfront and
supports saving the tree.
MOTION by Mr. Paternoster and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to table the issue until
such time it can be re-evaluated and possibly do some type of modifications on
Main Street/Indian River Drive and utilize additional monies that would have gone
to the bulk of this project to see if it can assist the CRA district in another aspects.
Roll Call on the motion result was as follows:
Ayes: Paternoster, Wolff
Nays: Neglia, Simchick, Coy
Failed 2-3
MOTION by Ms. Simchick and SECOND by Mr. Neglia to move forward with the
project, observing the historic tree LDC preservation section 54-3-14-2 and table
the bathroom issue.
Roll Call on the motion result was as follows:
Ayes: Simchick, Coy, Neglia
Nayes: Paternoster, Wolff
Passed 3-2
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January 23, 2008
Page Six
The City Manager recapped that he will go ahead with saving the tree, redefine the
road there, start developing the plans with the bathroom as located on circle page
25. He also noted that if more discussion is needed meetings can be scheduled
but will not happen until there is progress to report. He also offered to provide an
updated time-line for the project.
6. NEW BUSINESS -none.
7. Being no further business, Mayor Coy adjourned the CRA Meeting at 8:02 p.m.
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We the undersigned residents of the City of Sebastian, County of Indian River, State of
Florida, do hereby affix our signatures to this page in opposition to what has been dubbed
the "Indian River Drive/Main Street Improvement Project." The cost of this project is
estimated to be, 1.9 million dollars. It is our considered opinion that the proposed
engineering desig~i, in its present form, is not beneficial to our public, boaters and
motorists. Correspondingly, the present design permits the obliteration of an existing
park, located. behind the Chamber of .Commerce, to make way for a parking lot. We are
not in favor of eliminating our park for this purpose.
~Ve firmly believe through further study of this project, a more economical and improved
design could be engineered to achieve the desired. goal. We strongly urge our elected City
Council to reconsider this matter prior to any advancement or approval of the project.
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Sebastian, Florida 32958 °o
Re: Indian River Dr./Main St. Improvement Project, CRA Public Workshop
Dear Mayor Coy and Council Members:
The Board of Directors of the Sebastian River Area Chamber of Commerce would like to express full
support for the Indian River Dr./Main St. Improvement Project. The Chamber is enthusiastic with the
proposal, which would improve the area in a number of ways. The proposed improvements, while
perhaps not yet finalized, will provide benefits to the community, residents, boaters, and visitors to the
central riverfront area and retail businesses within the CRA district. By creating a sense of the "heart" of
Sebastian, with safer boating facilities, and parks and open space, with an unobstructed view to the Indian
River Lagoon, the City would be fulfilling the mission statement of the CRA, and vastly improving one of
the City's most valuable resources, the riverfront. This project will provide more public access with
usable green space, improved parking, historical features and other amenities that potentially will draw
people to the downtown Sebastian area.
It should be noted that the City of Sebastian originally created the CRA as a means to ensure that the
downtown. and surrounding vicinity would develop with a coherent community vision, and to encourage
reinvestment throughout the CRA. Council members have recently expressed strong support for economic
development in our community as a method of increasing the City's tax base and increasing revenues
beyond the ad valorum tax base. Infrastructure improvements within the CRA are specifically designed
to help accomplish the Councils long term goals.
As a side note, it is easy to remember the public discussions in 1995 when that Council contemplated the
installation of a sidewalk along Indian River Drive. It is fair to say that that public works project almost
single handedly transformed the public access to the waterfront, and clearly improved our resources to the
benefit of the entire community. We believe the proposed Indian River Dr./Main St. Improvement project
will have the same positive impact upon our community and we are asking you to support it. Thank you
for your consideration.
Very truly your ~
Beth L. Mitchell
Executive Director
700 MAIN STKEET • SEBASTIAN, FL 32958
PHONE: (772) 589.5969 • FAX: (772) 589-5993
www.SebastianChamber.com
Email: Info C~SebastianChamber.com