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SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING
FY 2008/2009 MILEAGE AND BUDGET
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 2008 - 6:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
Mayor Coy called the Special Meeting to order at 6:22 pm.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. ROLL CALL
City Council Members Present:
Mayor Andrea Coy
Vice-Mayor Sal Neglia
Council Member AI Paternoster
Council Member Dale Simchick
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Staff Present:
City Manager, AI Minner
City Attorney, Rich Stringer
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Finance Director, Ken Killgore
Police Chief, James Davis
Police Lieutenant, Michelle Morris
08.046 4. FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON MILEAGE AND FY 2008/2009 BUDGET
A. City Manager Announces Proposed Millage Rate of 3.3646 Mills Which is
9.21 % Less than Rolled-Back Rate of 3.7060 Mills
The City Manager announced the proposed millage as set out above, and gave a
summary of the proposed budget. He read a quote from Robert Douglas, August 27tH
regarding budgeting in these times, citing the difficulties of providing people with
required services, finding a balance, and stated he believed the proposed budget
provides that balance.
He stated the proposed millage is the amount of 3.3646 mills, but in the spirit of
transparency he offered three new options as a result of the reduced election costs
offered by the Supervisor of Elections for Indian River County at the last regular
meeting, from $36,000 to $12,000, i.e., leave as is; take out of the Clerk's budget and
move to contingency; or reduce the millage by to 3.3456 mills. He presented charts
showing scenarios for 1) residential tax increases based on slight reduction of the
millage, 2) comparison of taxes for years 2003 through 2008, and 3) taxes for bubble
home buyers -those who bought in the last several years.
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B. Mayor Opens Public Hearing
Damien Gilliams, 1623 US Highway 1, said this is called apre-emptive strike to raise
taxes now, people are losing their homes and jobs, the amount between 2.99 and 3.3
is miniscule, you have reserves and it is okay for staff to dip into reserves when they
need it for early buyouts and lawsuits but not when the people need it, noted two
Council members got into trouble and went to the well.
Mayor Coy gave him a first and second warning and told him to stick to the issues.
Mr. Gilliams said Vero Beach has a $1.9M reserve because they have other revenue
sources, he said we have COLAs and merit increases, the State will have a mandate
and we will remember you at election time.
Mr. Wolff said when you go to the well you run the risk of falling in and drowning.
Louise Kautenberg, Sebastian, said she will save $167 in taxes this year, 2/3 is due to
Sebastian trying to offer services at a lower rate, and from her perspective is if you put
the City at risk with the lower millage rate, it was not worth it.
Ed Herlihy, 474 Seahorse, Sebastian, said he was speaking as an individual and not as
a member of Citizens Budget Review Advisory Board, was in favor of 3.3646 mills, and
discussed the falling economy and his prediction that financial hardships will grow in
2009, read from an article on the subject noting it is financial folly to draw from reserves
and it should be reserved for a real rainy day, said the City Manager does an excellent
job.
Cindy Falco, Sebastian, said she understood Mr. Wolff's comment and asked what is
more important, having reserves or a City with no people.
Mayor Coy closed the hearing at 6:42 p.m.
C. Council Discussion
Mr. Neglia noted that since 2005 the millage has been lowered, we must have a
contingency fund above what is recommended, between 2004 and 2005 assessed
values went up and if things get better we can always lower the millage next year. He
supported 3.3646 mills.
Mayor Coy said she supports the 3.3646 rate, because if we have to go to the well we
should go to the well for police officers, describing how the VFW was broken into and
money taken from safes, and that we should keep full contingency moneys for a real
rainy day.
Ms. Simchick said she supported 2.99 mills otherwise businesses and people without
homestead will have tax increases, citing Vero Beach putting $730,000 from reserves
into its general fund to keep their millage the same, noted we are looking to spend only
20% of the overage of the contingency fund. She said the City Manager did a
wonderful job on the budget and she will support the budget.
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Mr. Wolff said he would support 3.3646 mills, discussed the economic crisis, that we
owe it to small businesses and residents to maintain level of service, that if a disaster
strikes the $10 saved won't mean anything, that we have a budget that is pared down,
and that it is a blessing that we got money back on the election and he recommended
we use it to lower the millage rate.
Mr. Paternoster clarified that the reserve fund has grown considerably since the City
Manager arrived, asked how bad do we have to be to decide that it is a rainy day, that
in his opinion the proposed millage is setting a foundation to raise the millage rate next
year to tie in with the CPI, that he had advised in years past not to lower the millage its
current level, said we are losing police officers and asked when we will be able to hire
them, said as the economy goes down crime goes up, pointing out Mayor Coy said the
VFW has been robbed.
Mayor Coy asked him to keep "the personal" out of it and the point is crime is on the rise.
Mr. Paternoster asked to be allowed to finish, saying the VFW was broken into and when
it is your home it becomes personal. He asked for 2.99 mills just for one year, to reach
into our savings to help out our people who take the full hit because they don't have
homestead exemption and we have to help the businesses. He challenged the City
Manager to do more with less and keep the millage rate at 2.99.
The Mayor said to go with a 2.99 millage rate we put ourselves in deep, deep jeopardy.
Mr. Paternoster asked the City Manager if the City would be in deep trouble with 2.99
and borrowing from the reserves.
The City Manager said it would not be a good idea. He explained our expenses are
75%-80% personnel, which will go up 5-6% and with assessments dropping you can get
in a position that expenses will increase and you will never get to increase the millage to
catch up if you take cash out now to finance a lower rate.
Mr. Paternoster asked how much extra money 3.3646 millage rate would generate for
the City and the City Manager said exactly zero. The City Manager asked everyone to
turn to page 43 of budget depicting the income this year and reduction next year and
said folks are getting a tax break which is what the State legislature set up but they did
not think about businesses which was not Council's fault.
The City Manager went on to explain that last year the budget was set up tough so we
would be okay this year and give the citizens a tax break. He endorsed the 3.3646 or
the 3.3456 realized from the election savings.
MOTION by Ms. Simchick and SECOND by Mr. Paternoster to set the millage rate at
2.99 and not adopt the resolution.
Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Ayes: Paternoster, Simchick
Nays: Coy, Neglia, Wolff
3-2 failed
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MOTION by Mr. Wolff and SECOND by Mr. Neglia to approve a 3.3456 millage rate.
Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Ayes: Neglia, Wolff, Coy
Nays: Simchick, Paternoster
3-2 carried
1-4 5. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. R-08-17- Millage Rate for Calendar Year 2008
(Finance Director Transmittal, R-08-17)
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING A
PROPOSED MILEAGE RATE OF 3.3456 MILLS FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2008; PROVIDING FOR
CONFLICTS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
The City Attorney announced the City is adopting a millage of 3.3456 which is
9.72% below the rolled back rate of 3.7060 mills and read the title of the
resolution.
MOTION by Mr. Wolff and SECOND By Mr. Neglia to adopt Resolution No. R-08-
17 at the amended millage rate.
Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Ayes: Wolff, Neglia, Coy
Nays: Simchick, Paternoster
3-2 carried
5-14 6. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. R-08-18 -Fiscal Year 2008/2009 Budget (Finance
Director Transmittal, R-08-18, Schedule "A")
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
ADOPTING THE TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2008 AND
ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2009; MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE PAYMENT OF OPERATING
EXPENSES, CAPITAL EXPENSES, AND FOR THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS ON THE BOND
AND OTHER INDEBTEDNESS OF THE CITY IN THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND, SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS,
DEBT SERVICE FUND, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, GOLF COURSE FUND, AIRPORT FUND, AND
BUILDING DEPARTMENT FUND AS PROVIDED FOR IN SCHEDULE "A", ATTACHED HERETO,
ESTABLISHING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THE BUDGET; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
The City Attorney read the title and noted amended schedule "A" reflecting the
election savings.
MOTION by Mr. Neglia and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to adopt R-08-18 Fiscal Year
2008/2009 Budget with the amended schedule "A."
Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Ayes: Wolff, Neglia, Coy, Simchick
Nays: Paternoster
4-1 carried
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15-27 7. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. R-08-19 -City Financial Policies (Finance Director
Transmittal, R-08-19)
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA, READOPTING AMENDED FINANCIAL POLICIES
GOVERNING VARIOUS AREAS OF BUDGET AND FINANCE AS PROVIDED FOR IN ATTACHMENT "A";
PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Damien Gilliams, 1623 US Highway 1, thanked Mayor Coy, Mr. Neglia, and Mr.
Wolff for raising our taxes. Mayor Coy gave him this third warning for being
personal and asked him to leave.
MOTION by Mr. Paternoster and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to adopt Resolution No.
R-08-19
Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Ayes: Coy, Neglia, Paternoster, Simchick, Wolff
Nays: 0
5-0 carried
8. Being no further business the Mayor adjourned the meeting at 7:31 p.m.
Approved at the Oct. 8, 2008
Regular City Council meeting.
Andrea Coy, Mayor
ATTE T: .-
Sa y A. Maio, MC -City Clerk