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COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY (CRA)
(CITY COUNCIL)
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 2008 - 5:00 PM
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN ST, SEBASTIAN, FL
Mayor Coy called the CRA Meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. ROLL CALL
City Council Present:
Mayor Andrea Coy
Vice-Mayor Sal Neglia
Council Member AI Paternoster
Council Member Dale Simchick
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Staff Present:
City Manager, AI Minner
City Attorney, Rich Stringer
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Police Chief, Jim Davis
Police Lieutenant, Michelle Morris
Deputy City Clerk, Jeanette Williams
Growth Management Director, Rebecca Grohall
MIS Systems Analyst, Barbara Brooke-Reese
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - 8/27/08 Meeting
MOTION by Mr. Neglia and SECOND by Mr. Paternoster to approve the 8/27/08 minutes
passed on a voice vote of 5-0.
5. RECONSIDERATION OF FAGADE, SIGN & LANDSCAPE GRANT REQUEST BY
CAPT. HIRAM'S PER MAYOR COY (GMD Transmittal, Staff Report, Guidelines,
Application)
Mayor Coy said she had requested this item, it was a two part process, the motion
to reconsider by someone on the prevailing side and if approved decide when to
act on it.
MOTION by Mr. Neglia and SECOND by Mayor Coy to reconsider the facade,
sign, and landscape grant request of Capt. Hiram's.
Ms. Simchick said the guidelines are clear, the application was denied, not the
grant, and nothing has changed.
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Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Ayes: Coy, Neglia, Paternoster, Wolff
Nays: Simchick
4-1
The City Attorney advised at this point Council decides whether to reconsider this tonight
or at a future time.
Mayor Coy said she put this on for this evening, under the existing rules, and she intends
to change her vote on the issue.
MOTION by Mr. Paternoster and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to hear the reconsideration this
evening passed on a voice vote of 5-0.
Public Input
Tom Collins, Captain Hiram's, said he appreciated the second opportunity, they were
not aware of the program, he favored opening up the grants retroactively to anyone
out there, he understood Ms. Simchick's position, and he requested support of the
request.
Mr. Neglia asked why check information is crossed out and the City Clerk responded
it is a public records issue and was done internally.
Damien Gilliams, 1623 US 1, Sebastian, said Council had discretion to change rules
anytime, said he was for Captain Hiram's getting what is due to them, the issue is fairness
and equal rights. He said he had a problem with his grant request and tried to get it back
on an agenda with a letter from his attorney, now the Mayor is being selective.
Mayor Coy gaveled him and told him to stick to the issues.
Mr. Gilliams said he would be waiting in the back for a motion to reconsider his
applications.
Ms. Simchick asked why Council did not receive a copy of the letter from Mr. Gilliams'
Attorney requesting the item on the agenda.
The City Manager said he did not copy the letter to Council for four reasons, and then
listed them as follows:
1) There was not a precedent issue until Capt. Hiram's is
considered
2) All of his taxes were not paid
3) It would be more appropriate for him to reapply
4) A reconsideration of a vote has to be done at the
next meeting
He said he would provide a copy of the letter to Council.
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Ms. Simchick said in the future she would like a copy of any letter from any attorney
regarding a City Council meeting.
In response to Mr. Neglia, the City Manager said the CRA can accept as many
applications as they want within the budget parameters.
Council Discussion
Mayor Coy read the application guidelines on circle page 20 and noted Council has
used their discretion with the Keg Shack award. She said she was prepared to
endorse Capt. Hiram's application.
MOTION by Mr. Paternoster and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to grant Collins the full
amount of the FSL program.
Mr. Neglia asked when Council is going to stop changing their minds on these things
and said it has to stop.
Ms. Simchick said this is not personal but is based on an application deadline, the
Keg Shop was in the same fiscal year, if Council didn't like the rules they need to
change the rules however future rules will be stricter. She said she would deny this
application tonight, but may consider it in the future with many other people that
would like to be considered.
Mayor Coy asked the City Attorney and the City Manager if we are acting on the
grant.
The City Attorney said Ms. Simchick is not against the grant recipient but the
delinquent grant application and will not approve the grant application.
Mayor Coy said when they talk about changing the program, she may support retro
support. She asked the Growth Management Director if there were any other
applications not brought to Council because their signs went in before they applied.
The Growth Management Director said not that she was aware of. Mayor Coy said
no one has been left out.
Mr. Neglia reiterated that he also is not against the grant recipient but the delinquent
application and when Mr. Collins said he didn't know about the program that maybe a
letter can be sent to all businesses in CRA district. He said he would not support
this.
Ms. Simchick asked the City Attorney if we do not pass the grant this evening and
the grant program is changed, can it be reapplied for. The City Attorney said yes, if
the changed rules allow that.
Ms. Simchick asked if the rules were changed to allow open enrollment time periods
could this application could be passed in the future if it met the criteria.
The City Attorney said he would have concerns with open enrollment because this
fund is restricted to redevelopment uses and Council would be opening themselves
up to challenges because it is veering from redevelopment guidelines.
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Ms. Simchick said what he described is exactly what is happening now. The City
Attorney said if that is how Council is systematically using the money, it could be
challenged.
Mr. Paternoster asked the City Attorney if he went through the criteria when the
program was initially implemented.
The City Attorney said he did and when the rules are going to be revamped he said to
remember it is pot of money with restrictions on it. He said he is the "voice of doom"
when it comes to the CRA's capital projects to be done within three years; and when
Council puts off the projects, the more Council is open to challenges by the County.
Mr. Paternoster said approval of the Keg Shack set the precedent and changes can
be done when the program is revamped but he supported Capt. Hiram's request.
Mr. Neglia asked if the Keg Shack sign was erected after Council approval. The
Growth Management Director said no, it was up before approval.
Ms. Simchick asked the City Attorney if he planned to discourage future prior-built
signs. The City Attorney said while approving one or two can be an estoppels type
fairness argument, but to systematically approve retroactive work, it can no longer be
an incentive program for redevelopment.
Roll call on the motion was as follows:
Ayes: Paternoster, Wolff, Coy
Nays: Neglia, Simchick
3-2
6. PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION - FY 2008/2009 CRA BUDGET
A. Mavor Opens Hearin
The Mayor opened the public hearing at 5:40 p.m.
The City Manager explained the purpose of this is to discuss some projects for the
unappropriated CRA funds which could be: underground stormwater system on Indian
River Drive, improving the CAVCORP property, installing a permanent bandshell, or
increasing funding of the FSL Grant Program.
He said he was looking for input, reviewed the operating expenditures, noting the transfer
from general fund for personnel issues is for personnel during special events.
B. Council Discussion
Cindy Falco, said the CRA district is not really defined as she finds that people do not
know if they are in the district or not. She asked if the Charrette money given in 2001
went to Parks and Recreation or is it still available.
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The City Manager said if she was referring to the fountain and riverfront improvements,
the fountain was being taken care of.
Damien Gilliams, 1623 US 1, said two or three years ago AI Paternoster put money in
the budget to remove derelict boats and they have not removed the boat on his
property.
The City Manager asked the Police Chief to explain why that boat was not removed.
Chief Davis said derelict vessels from hurricanes Jeanne and Francis were removed
and it was determined that the boat on Mr. Gilliams' property was not washed up
because of the hurricanes. The Chief also said vessels deemed navigational hazards
were removed, which also disqualified the boat on Mr. Gilliams' property.
Ms. Simchick said the Beach and Shore Preservation Committee reported that 30
derelict boats were removed and asked if the boat was submerged.
The City Manager offered to inspect the boat the next day.
Mr. Wolff asked if there were other boats in the CRA district. The City Manager said
the boats that could be brought up, the navigational hazards, have been removed.
Mr. Neglia said there was a grant from south Brevard County to remove some of the
boats.
The Chief added the last three vessels removed were done by Charlie Sembler at no
cost to the City.
Mr. Gilliams said some money should be set aside for an economic development
commission to help the businesses. Mr. Neglia said he bought this up last year and
none of the businesses came forward. Mr. Gilliams said it would be a part of a
citizen's academy and benefits should be given to the volunteers.
7. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 08-01 - FY 2008/2009 CRA Budget (Finance Director
Transmittal, Resolution 08-01)
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY (CRA)
ADOPTING A BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2008 AND ENDING
SEPTEMBER 30, 2009 AS PROVIDED FOR IN EXHIBIT "A"; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION by Mr. Neglia and SECOND by Ms. Simchick to recommend Resolution No.
08-01 adopting CRA budget for FY08/09.
Mr. Paternoster asked if money can be marked for the derelict vessels. Ms. Simchick
said Indian River County piggybacked the south Brevard grant which was completed
and staff is trying to set up a site to store the boats while they figure out who the owner
is, vehicle identification number, if the boat was abandoned.
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The City Clerk reported in 2000 the City had a grant from the Florida Fish and Wildlife
Conservation Commission for $22,500 for derelict removal and the City used
Adventure Environmental, Inc. of Key Largo. (Editor's note: the City went to second
lowest bidder Sebastian Towboat & Salvage, Inc. on 9/21/01 after discussions with
Adventure Environmental]
Mr. Wolff said grants would be great, but it should be budgeted for. He said he would
like more details about the CAVCORP property and the stormwater system on Indian
River Drive, then he would consider derelict vessels at that time.
The City Manager said there is money for derelict vessels and since there was a
motion on the floor, he asked the Vice-Mayor to consider a friendly amendment of
$20,000 for derelict vessels. The Vice-Mayor and Ms. Simchick agreed to the
amendment.
Mayor Coy asked if we could allocate after researching and surveying the whole district
for the number of vessels. The City Manager said he would look for grant money and
shift monies as needed.
Ms. Simchick cautioned that moving a vessel involves a lot of man hours to pull sea
grass permits, which is where a lot of the grant goes to then actual removal of the
vessel.
MOTION by Mr. Paternoster and SECOND by Ms. Simchick to extend the CRA
meeting passed with a voice vote.
Roll call on the amended motion was as follows:
Ayes: Simchick, Wolff, Coy, Neglia, Paternoster
Nays: 0
5-0
8. Being no further business, Mayor Coy adjourned the CRA meeting at 6:02 p.m.
Approved at the March 25, 2009 CRA meeting.
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