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SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10, 2009 - 6:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
Mayor Gillmor called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
2. The invocation was given by Pastor Brothers, First Baptist Church of Sebastian.
3. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
4. ROLL CALL
City Council Present:
Mayor Richard H. Gillmor
Vice-Mayor Jim Hill
Council Member Andrea Coy
Council Member Dale Simchick
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Staff Present:
City Manager, AI Minner
City Attorney, Robert Ginsburg
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Records Program Manager, Donna Cyr
Airport Director, Joseph Griffin
Finance Director, Ken Killgore
Growth Management Director, Rebecca Grohall
Growth Management Manager, Jan King
Deputy Police Chief, Michelle Morris
Police Captain, Greg Witt
MIS Systems Analyst, Robb Messersmith
5. AGENDA MODIFICATIONS
Modifications and additions require unanimous vote of City Council members
The City Manager requested that items 12F and 12G be pulled from the agenda,
citing that item 12F needs more homework and for item 12G the individual
making the request could not be at the meeting.
MOTION by Mr. Hill and SECOND by Ms. Coy to remove items F and G carried
on a voice vote of 5-0.
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6. PROCLAMATIONS. AWARDS, BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENTS
Presentations of proclamations, certificates and awards, and brief timely announcements by Council and Staff.
No public input or action under this heading.
Ms. Coy announced the Sebastian Clambake slogan contest and said entries can be
submitted to sebastianclambakeCa~hotmail.com and that beneficiary applications for
funding from the festival proceeds can be submitted to the same address.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the consent agenda are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no
separate discussion of consent agenda items unless a member City Council so requests; in which event, the
item will be removed and acted upon separately. If a member of the public wishes to provide input on a
consent agenda item, he/she should request a Council Member to remove the item for discussion prior to
start of the meeting or by raising his/her hand to be recognized.
1-11 A. Approval of Minutes -May 27, 2009 Regular Meeting
09.097 B. Renew FDEP Submerged Lands Lease for Twin Piers (City Manager Transmittal,
13-21 Lease)
09.098 C. Approve Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant (JAG) -American
23-41 Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 -State Solicitation and Purchase of ID
Fingerprint Live Scan System with Child ID, Automated Fingerprint ID System
and 3 Remington 870 Shotguns with Grant Funds (Grant Application, Price
Quotes)
09.095 D. Approve Kimley-Horn Non-Exclusive Agreement for Continuing Professional
43-56a Engineering Consulting Services (City Manager Transmittal, 6/4/09 Rates Letter)
MOTION by Ms. Simchick and SECOND by Ms. Coy to approve the consent agenda.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Gillmor, Hill, Coy, Simchick, Wotff
NAYS: None
Passed 5-0
8. COMMITTEE REPORTS & APPOINTMENTS
City committee reports and Council Member regional committee reports. No public input or action except for
City committee member nominations and appointments under this heading.
09.003 A. Natural Resources Board
57-64 i. Interview, Unless Waived and Fill One Vacant Regular Member Position (City
Clerk Transmittal, Application, Member List, Ad)
City Council briefly interviewed Eric Spokas, who gave his background.
Ms. Coy nominated Mr. Spokas and Ms. Simchick seconded the nomination. Being no
other nominations, Mr. Spokas was appointed to the regular member position.
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9. PUBLIC HEARINGS -None
10. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
09.053 A. Resolution No. R-09-23 - Temporary Waterfront Committee - Clarifying
65-68 Jurisdiction (City Attorney Transmittal, R-09-23)
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE TEMPORARY
WATERFRONT COMMITTEE; AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 09-17; CLARIFYING THE
COMMITTEE'S JURISDICTION; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR A TERM AND
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
The City Attorney read R-09-23 by title.
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Hill to approve Resolution No. R-09-23.
Ms. Simchick questioned why Council was removing language relative to preventing loss
from disasters, and Mayor Gillmor said this was proposed at the last meeting because
this task was taken care of by City staff. Ms. Simchick suggested keeping the language
in, in the event we are able to submit for future grants.
The Growth Management Director noted the resolution can be modified at any time in
the future -and the language of the resolution as proposed more closely matches the
Stan Mayfield Grant.
Ms. Coy said taking it out provides better focus to the Committee. Mr. Wolff said he
thinks there is a power play going on. Mr. Hill said he did not care one way of the other,
and that direction to the Committee is what is important. Mayor Gillmor agreed, stating
that leaving it in doesn't mean the Committee has to study it.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Hill, Coy, Simchick, Wolff, Gillmor
NAYS: None
Passed 5-0
09.096 B. Approve Emergencv Hurricane Debris Removal Contracts with DRC Emergencv
69-93 Services. Crowder-Gulf, and Ceres Environmental Services (City Manager
Transmittal, Generic Agreement, Bid Comparisons)
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Hill to approve emergency hurricane debris
contracts with DRC Emergency Services, Crowder-Gulf, and Ceres Environmental
Services.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Coy, Simchick,
NAYS: None
Passed 5-0
Wolff, Gillmor, Hill
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11. PUBLIC INPUT -None.
12. NEW BUSINESS
09.099 A. Award Powerline Road Design Agreement to Masteller & Moler in the Amount of
95-152 $176,724 from Residual Capital Improvement Funds (City Manager Transmittal,
Agreement, Masteller Proposal)
The City Manager explained the CCNA process, the proposal to design the extension of
Powerline Road from its terminus south of Main Street to CR512 and recommended
Masteller & Moler based on their expertise in road projects, discussed the escrow in the
amount of $166,000 being held from the development of Ashbury Subdivision for
Powerline Road construction. He said the City Attorney has opined that the escrow
funds can be used at this time for engineering.
In response to Mr. Wolff, the City Manager said we would have to tap into escrow funds
by 2012 and that we could use the escrow funds for design if it is our intention to build
the road. The City Manager further explained the proposal to extend Orange Street into
Powerline Road and described the grid.
Mr. Hill questioned whether Roy Street had been considered and the City Manager said
Orange was the best choice, but if Council has other alternatives they should be looked
at now. It was noted that Ashbury had conducted a traffic survey.
The City Manager said he will be bringing them ways to the get the road funded.
Mayor Gillmor asked if we use the escrow funds for design now and if later on we do not
do the construction what would be the worst case scenario and would we have to pay it
back. The City Attorney said that was probably the worst case or we could possibly get
an extension. The City Manager said there is logic in using the escrow now.
Joe Scozzari suggested it would be sensible to have a map showing the grid for the
public before spending the money. The City Manager pointed out pages 141-144
showing the cross sections.
In response to Ms. Simchick, the City Manager said the engineering includes the cross
throughs and based on preliminary studies, Orange Street is the single best punch
through, and perhaps we could ask the engineer to include alternatives in at the same
cost if Council wants to look at alternatives.
Roger Skillman, 1711 NW 4th Street, Delray Beach, Florida, said he appreciates being
able to access the agenda backup and view Council meetings on the website, explained
the history of his family in Sebastian, noting that 25 years ago his father Roger Skillman
assembled property owners in the old chambers to provide 100 feet of right-of-way to the
City. He said his father would have been pleased with this action tonight, and with the
choice of engineer, noting that Earl Masteller was the City's first staff professional
engineer and that hiring him had changed things for Sebastian. He said Masteller's
integrity and character are 100%. He then congratulated Council for the manner in which
they operate, their level of civility and thanked them for the opportunity to speak.
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Steve Moler, Vice President of Masteller & Moler, addressed City Council, said they look
forward to working with staff and said they could add alternatives to the design if
requested. He noted there will be public presentations since there are homes that back
up to Powerline Road on both sides, and said he appreciated Mr. Skillman's comments.
He noted that Earl Masteller was the City's first City Engineer from 1982-1984.
Louise Kautenberg, Sebastian, asked whether Orange Street was platted and said the
City might want to discuss the extension of Orange. She said she was all for Powerline
Road. The City Manager said Orange is platted.
Mr. Wolff said it is important to conduct public workshops with residents, due to the
impact of the extension.
Damien Gilliams cited the difference between this engineering cost to the engineering
cost for another project done by another firm, which he had brought to Council's
attention.
MOTION by Mayor Gillmor and SECOND by Ms. Coy to move forward on this with the
money we already have in escrow funds.
In response to Mr. Wolff, the City Manager clarified the money in escrow was earning a
little more interest than the City's invested funds. Mr. Wolff questioned why we would
use the escrow money now and Mayor Gillmor said using escrow puts us in a go mode,
and if we commit and then do not construct we have to give the escrow back.
Discussion continued among Council members on the merits of using escrow funds
versus using City funds for design.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Gillmor
NAYS: Simchick, Wolff, Coy, Hill
Failed 1-4
MOTION by Mr. Hill and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to award Powerline Road design
agreement to Masteller & Moler in the amount of $176,724 from residual capital
improvement funds.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Wolff, Gillmor, Coy, Simchick, Hill
NAYS: None
Passed 5-0
09.100 B. Public Works Compound Discussion (City Manager Transmittal w/Attachments)
153-155
The City Manager said staff provided costs relative to the landscaping or relocation of
the compound but was offering no recommendation at this time, though he would
provide a recommendation if that is what Council wanted.
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Mayor Gillmor said he thought we would have to move it which will take time, but it is
imperative that we screen it and make it look as pretty as we can. He requested direction
to the City Manager to make it look better.
Ms. Simchick said we need to get the project included in the CIP and concurred with
beautification at this time.
Ms. Coy said she would like to move it, and said it will take years to grow trees to screen
it. She asked if it was possible for us to sell the property and suggested working with the
adjacent property owner.
The City Manager said it was possible, and asked if it was the consensus of Council to
screen now and also to move it at a later time, he would move in that direction, noting
the CIP would be coming before them shortly.
Mr. Hill said we all agree, and there was a consensus five years ago to move it, but it will
take a couple of years to do. He said he would not agree with anything short of a
landscape plan that meets the provisions of the 512 overlay, that we should lead by
example. He said if we are going to move it we should not spend that type of money.
Ms. Simchick expressed concern for environmental issues because of the type of use.
The City Manager said there have been underground storage issues and it has been
tested, noted the grant for DEP remediation had been cut off, said there is a plume of
contamination that needs remediation but it is not high level, noting it was low level
diesel fuel in the soil. He stated there was no drinking water environmental danger.
Mr. Wolff said the compound has been there many years and the look of it did not stop
any of us from coming, it is a bit more visible now, it is premature in a deep recession to
speak of selling, suggested a management team site visit to reorganize the site if
possible and then put some screening plan in place until we have the ability to move the
compound.
Mr. Hill noted the problem came about when CR512 was split which opened up the
compound, and the Clerk noted the twin pairs project was early 90s.
Damien Gilliams suggested taking another look at current regulations for permits for
clearing subdivisions, and agreed with green fencing and landscaping.
The City Manager said a motion would be appropriate for an expenditure up to $20,000,
that the landscape plan would only take administrative review, noting this section of the
"triangle" is not a part of or governed by C512 or Riverfront Overlay District regulations.
MOTION by Mayor Gillmor and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to authorize the City Manager to
spend up to $20,000 to make it pretty.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Wolff, Gillmor, Coy, Simchick, Hill
NAYS: None
Passed 5-0
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09.101 a C. Approve First Reading of Ordinance No. 0-09-09 -Mustacchia Property
157-172 Annexation and Schedule 2"d Reading and Public Hearing for July 8, 2009 - 3
Acres West of US 1 Between Shady Rest MH Park and St. Sebastian Church
(GMD Transmittal, 0-09-09, Map, Staff Report, Letter of Request, Chapter
171.044 FS)
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE VOLUNTARY
ANNEXATION OF LAND CONSISTING OF 3 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, LOCATED WEST OF U.S. 1
BETWEEN SHADY REST MOBILE HOME PARK AND ST. SEBASTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH; PROVIDING
FOR INTERIM LAND USE AND ZONING CLASSIFICATION; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
The City Attorney said the next three items C, D and E are ordinances for first reading,
noting the first two are legislative in nature and the third, zoning is quasi judicial matter,
so for that item Council will deal with quasi judicial procedures such as swearing in.
The City Attorney read Ordinance No. 0-09-09 by title for first reading, and said if
passed the second reading is tentatively scheduled for July 8, 2009.
In response to Mayor Gillmor's question as to whether Council should take input first or
would it be appropriate to make a motion at this time, the City Attorney said either way
would be fine. Mayor Gillmor called for a motion.
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mayor Gillmor to approve first reading of
Ordinance No. 0-09-09.
Mayor Gillmor then opened the item to the public.
John King, 935 Sebastian Boulevard, briefly addressed Council representing the owner,
Mr. Mustacchia, who, he said, was in Italy.
Mr. Wolff noted a letter stating that the City had agreed to waive fees on page circle 170,
asked if there were costs involved in this voluntary annexation application and if so, the
costs should be borne by the applicant and not City taxpayers. Ms. Grohall confirmed
there are fees involved for legal notices. Mr. Hill asked the reason the fee was waived.
The City Manager said this property is an enclave and annexing it will increase the City's
taxable value. Mr. Wolff said it did not seem right for the taxpayer to enrich someone in
this way and Ms. Coy asked if Shady Rest paid a fee and if so, would have a hard time
with the waiver to be equal with the neighbor. Ms. Simchick agreed with staying with the
same policy for all and then would be in favor of the annexation.
The City Manager said the fee would have been $3300, said this commercial annexation
would benefit the taxpayers by increasing the total assessed value and it was awin-win
situation for both parties, but if Council wished to it could table the matter. In response
to the Mayor, he cited the property's current assessed value, to which the Mayor
responded it would take the applicant five years to pay us back. Mr. Hill said the
reduced workload on staff for this annexation with the same fee and the benefit to the
City may bean argument for the waiver.
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Ms. Simchick said there should be no waivers and favors and we have to be consistent
to all and would not annex. She said there are rules and fees on the books and perhaps
at a later date we can discuss adjusting application fees based on size. Mayor Gillmor
said he agreed and did not want to set a precedent.
Mr. Wolff expressed concern for considering millage rate increases and then looking at
waivers for applications.
John King said his client was sent a letter by the City to annex his property with an offer
to waive all the fees so we did not have an enclave. He suggested they go through the
first reading and then see what happens. He said they have spent time and money
based on that letter. Mr. Hill said this was a game changer if we presented the offer.
Ms. Simchick said she would like to see the letter, perhaps tabling would be the best
thing, she said she had problems in the past with staff showing up at an auction and
saying they would be willing to change zoning, and was concerned for precedent.
Mr. Wolff said the Council packet has a letter that shows the applicant had requested the
waiver. Mr. King said this was their response to the City's letter, said he hoped we could
continue with the first reading, and he could contact the applicant and resolve it by JUIy
$th
Mr. Hill said he would rather have staff work it out with the applicant and then come back
to Council rather than imposing a mandate.
Ms. Simchick suggested a break so the Growth Management Director could get the
letter.
Mayor Gillmor called recess at 8:15 pm and reconvened the meeting at 8:29 p.m. All
members were present.
Staff provided an a-mail showing that the City had made the offer of the waiver for the
client to annex into the City (see attached).
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Hill, Coy, Simchick
NAYS: Gillmor, Wolff
Passed 3-2
09.101 b D. Approve First Reading of Ordinance No. 0-09-10 - Mustacchia Property Land
173-186 Use Amendment and Schedule 2"d Reading and Public Hearing for July 8, 2009
- 3 Acres West of US 1 Between Shady Rest MH Park and St. Sebastian Church
(GMD Transmittal, 0-09-09, P & Z Minutes, Application)
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH AMENDS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO DESIGNATE AN INITIAL
LAND USE CLASSIFICAITON OF RIVERFRONT MIXED USE (RMU) FOR ANNEXED LAND WITH A PRIOR
COUNTY LAND USE DESIGNATION OF LOW-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UP TO 6 UNITS PER ACRE (L-2)
FOR LAND CONSISTING OF 3 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, LOCATED WEST OF U.S. 1 BETWEEN SHADY
REST MOBILE HOME PARK AND ST. SEBASTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH; AUTHORIZING FINDINGS AND
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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The City Attorney read Ordinance No. 0-09-10 by title.
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Hill to approve the first reading on 0-09-10.
Joe Scozzari said Council did not have public input on the previous item and Council
Members noted they did. Mr. Scozzari said John King is involved with Growth
Management because his wife is involved with Growth Management, that he spoke with
the City Manager who said he authorized the Growth Management Director to do this
and it should be in writing.
Damien Gilliams asked who wrote the letter, and Ms. Simchick said it is from Rebecca
Grohall. Mr. Gilliams said Council and not staff sets policy and that all annexation fees
should be waived. He said he has property near this property and he never received a
letter on this and was told this is a first reading and not a public hearing. He asked how
staff is authorized to waive fees.
Ms. Simchick said the Growth Management Director was authorized by the City
Manager.
Mr. Gilliams said he had nothing against the realtor, but asked the Council to do the right
thing.
Ms. Simchick said for the record, Council received a copy of the letter and there is a time
limit for the waiver.
Mr. King said it is unfair to hold anything against his client because his wife works for the
City, that his client did not initiate this, that the City of Sebastian made an offer, his client
agreed to accept it, and if the City is unwilling to do it, they should tell him what they
want and he will convey it to his client. He said Council should not allow anyone to
badger its staff.
Mr. Wolff apologized and said it is unconscionable that he has to come to the podium to
defend himself, said it is clear the City came to his client. He asked if the property was
on the market at this time or has it been listed in the last year or two. Mr. King said it
was listed in the past, though it is not listed now, they are talking to people about
purchasing it but do not have a hard contract. In response to Mr. WolfFs question on the
price, Mr. King said the agent who had it listed was not in his office but would guess it
was around $1 M. He said they had to do a hard sell to get the applicant to agree to
annex into the City, so if it is going to cost him, he did not know if he would annex.
Mr. Hill noted we have already moved past the question of annexation and this is a
matter of land-use.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Hill, Coy, Simchick, Wolff
NAYS: Gillmor
Passed 4-1
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09.101 c E. Approve First Reading of Ordinance No. 0-09-11 - Mustacchia Property Zoning
187-198 Amendment and Schedule 2"d Reading and Public Hearing for July 8, 2009 - 3
Acres West of US 1 Between Shady Rest MH Park and St. Sebastian Church
(GMD Transmittal 0-09-09 P & Z Minutes Application) (This issue is Quasi-
Judicial
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA, APPROVING AN INITIAL ZONING
CLASSIFICATION OF COMMERCIAL RIVERFRONT (CR) FOR ANNEXED LAND WITH A PRIOR COUNTY
ZONING DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY, UP TO 6 UNITS PER ACRE (RM-6) FOR LAND
CONSISTING OF 3 ACRES, MORE OR LESS, LOCATED WEST OF U.S. 1 BETWEEN SHADY REST
MOBILE HOME PARK AND ST. SEBASTIAN CATHOLIC CHURCH; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Mayor Gillmor noted this issue is quasi-judicial and confirmed with the City Attorney that
anyone wishing to speak would be sworn.
The City Attorney read Ordinance No. 0-09-11 by title. He then said this is a first
reading and then offered his quasi-judicial hearing procedures list to the Mayor.
Mayor Gillmor gaveled and opened the hearing and asked for disclosure of ex-parte
communications. There was none disclosed.
The City Clerk swore in all who intended to offer factual testimony on the zoning,
reconfirming this is a first reading.
The Growth Management Director read staff recommendation to approve the zoning on
first reading and set public hearing for July 8~'.
Mayor Gillmor opened the floor for anyone in favor and there was no input.
Mayor Gillmor opened the floor for anyone opposed.
Joe Scozzari said this is not a good idea, we should not annex it, questioned Mr. King's
input about the agent.
John King clarified that when the property was listed the agent who listed the property
was not in his office at that time, but she now is in his office and has been for the last six
months.
Mr. Hill again noted we are on zoning.
Damien Gilliams said the map in the packet is confusing and it was explained to him by
the Growth Management Director. It was noted that the property over which he was
confused was a portion of Shady Rest.
Mr. Gilliams then asked the City Attorney if he could ask questions of the Growth
Management Director, and the City Attorney responded he could.
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Mr. Gilliams asked if the potential purchaser of the property had been in her office and
she said had been approached by someone interested in purchasing the property.
Mr. Gilliams asked for the record if she could tell us what the intended use of the
property was, and she answered right now a national fast food chain.
Mr. Gilliams noted restaurants with drive throughs are conditional use and Council may
want to take this into consideration.
Mr. Gilliams asked if Mr. Hill received any campaign contributions from the applicant and
if he did, will he withdraw from voting. Mr. Hill said he did receive a contribution, but
could not recall the amount. Ms. Simchick said he did not have to answer this question.
Ms. Coy asked how many times we are going to go down this road. Mr. Gilliams said
maybe you want to get confirmation from the City Attorney. Ms. Coy said Mr. Gilliams
has made this inquiry three times and made various allegations against various people
sitting up at the dais and has been told there is no conflict of interest in taking a
campaign contribution, and said for the fourth time there is no conflict of interest, for the
record and asked the City Attorney if this is correct. The City Attorney answered yes.
Mr. King said he has been a broker in town for over twenty years, has represented many
people in front of Council, potential buyers are looking at several different sites, he is not
sure Mr. Hill received campaign funds from the applicant but did receive campaign funds
from him.
The Growth Management Director read staff recommendation for approval of the zoning
to CR on first reading, citing consistency with all regulations and approval by Planning
and Zoning.
Mayor Gillmor said this is a first reading, said he would vote against it because it did not
feel right to him, stating if you do for one you should do it for others and it sounds like a
deal and the City shouldn't be making deals.
Mr. Wolff said he is frustrated, this has taken an hour and now we hear the land is for
sale, first we hear it isn't for sale and then we hear it is, we thought we put this behind us
with the auction, the applicant should pay for the annexation and it doesn't feel right.
Ms. Simchick said this is not about the applicant but staff, the City created the enclave,
but agreed she thought we had gotten behind this with the auction situation.
MOTION by Ms. Simchick and SECOND by Ms. Coy to approve on first reading
Ordinance No. 0-09-11 Mustacchia property zoning amendment and schedule second
reading and public Hearing for July 8, 2009, three acres west of US 1 between Shady
Rest MH Park and St. Sebastian Church.
Ms. Coy said it was her intention to have a conversation with staff and Council was not
precluded to approve but it can be ironed out on July 8th. She apologized to the Kings
and said they should not have to be subjected to this.
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Mr. Hill agreed and then reminded everyone again that this ordinance has nothing to do
with fees for annexation.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: Coy, Simchick, Hill
NAYS: Wolff, Gillmor
Passed 3-2
Mr. King thanked Council, said the property is not listed but there is an interested party
with whom his agency is negotiating, his agent has had a long term relationship with this
buyer, noted the use intended could bring sixty jobs to Sebastian when they find a
property that will suit them. He said the party has spent $70,000 in engineering fees so
far trying to find a property. He asked for direction and questioned whether the City
Manager had authority to negotiate on behalf of Council.
Mr. Wolff said what he found it difficult to get a grip on is the property will sell for millions
of dollars, that they have spent $70,000 on engineering but can't afford the application
fee. Mr. King said his numbers are way off and the number being negotiated is under a
million, that it is not a matter of not being able to afford the fee, and said if his company
makes a deal he stands behind it.
Ms. Simchick said Mr. King wants to know what to tell his client, Council's issue was with
staff, and she asked the City Attorney if Council waives this fee, will it set a precedent.
The City Attorney said each property is unique, because this has three sides touching
City property and US 1 on the other side, if someone came up with the same
circumstance they could maybe point to this, but other than that no.
Ms. Simchick said since staff did this, Council needs to make it right, that she was not
happy with it but that she will talk to the City Manager later.
Mr. King said if we are going to end this, let's end it now and not drag it out. He offered
that his client may be willing to pay the advertising fee.
Ms. Coy said Mr. Minner got us into this and should get us out of it.
Mr. Wolff said now that we understand the entire story, he felt that perhaps we should
just eat the $3300 and go forward. Mr. King said this annexation started before he ever
started dealing with this client.
Mayor Gillmor suggested at least being revenue neutral and having them pay $1000 or
something in good faith;.
Mr. Hill said it was a matter of principle, and maybe it was not a mistake, asked if we are
going to stand behind what staff did and suggested we can discuss later whether a
mistake was made.
Ms. Simchick said waiver of fees should only be staff recommendation and ultimately
Council should make the decision.
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The City Manager requested to speak on the issue, stated there should have been a
disclaimer in there, that staff made the error but he takes responsibility and said the buck
stops at his desk, said it was unfair to say that this has happened twice, noting staff must
make determinations in its dealings with the public, and asked Council to stand in staffs
shoes before it passes judgment.
He said if there was an error in this it was that it was not presented to Council properly
and he would take responsibility for that, but if Council had asked questions before the
meeting about the waiver he would have pulled the item or given more detail. He said
staff has been asked to do more with less, cut taxes, cut staff and diversify revenue. He
said Growth Management brings only 1 % of the general revenue funds and if we
doubled application fees it would still be less than 1 %. He said the benefit to the City in
the short term would be $2300 and if the property sells for about a million all one had to
do was do the math.
He said as to comments that this doesn't feel right, his management has shown his
respect for Council, said when we do annexation or land use or zoning, we don't pick out
what the use is going to be, that is not the topic of conversation because when you
change to a City CR zoning designation there is a litany of things that property can
become and read from the LDC. He reminded Council they have discussed economic
development incentives to fast food restaurants to come develop, staff had an
opportunity to grow the tax base. He then discussed whether this is considered an
enclave. He reiterated we had full justification for what was done and would take full
responsibility for whatever errors are seen to have been done. He said he did not want
anyone to walk away feeling like we cannot be creative and think outside the box and
would speak with Council and accept whatever criticism they may have.
Ms. Coy said she appreciated the explanation and would throw her full support behind
staff.
Mr. King said the Growth Management Director was aware that his agency has several
clients who are seeking properties and he had asked what would be allowed. He said
the department has had many conversations with interested parties and have always
worked in the City's best interest to bring in business.
09.102 F. Consider Mayors.TV - CGI Video Program -Community Image Marketing
199-222 Broadcasts (Memo dated 6/3/09 Other City Website Examples City
Public Broadcast Policy)
This item was removed during agenda modifications for more information.
09.103 G. Request for Removal of Two Liens for 111 Arcadia and Two Liens for 1245
223-237 George Street (City Manager/Code Enforcement Transmittal Property and Lien
Documents)
This item was removed during agenda modifications for attendance by the individual
who made the request.
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Regular City Council Meeting
June 10, 2009
Page Fourteen
13. CITY ATTORNEY MATTERS -None
14. CITY MANAGER MATTERS
09.104 A. Report on South Sebastian Greenway Corridor from Thunderbird Drive to Kildare
239-245 Drive (County Application for Transportation Enhancement Projects)
The City Manager gave a brief report on the proposed greenway corridor, noting
he had offered to help out with maintenance if greenway funds are brought to
Sebastian.
09.019 B. Farmers Market Update (No Backup)
The City Manager reported that no proposals had been submitted in response to the
RFP, that he will contact people who expressed prior interest and come back with a
report to Council.
15. CITY CLERK MATTERS -None
16. CITY COUNCIL MATTERS
A. Council Member Simchick
Ms. Simchick thanked staff for the signs at the new 162 acre Stormwater Park, urged
people to go visit the park, and discussed the possibility of a blue way plan with a kayak
and canoe launch area for amulti-modal system.
Ms. Simchick discussed a letter Council received regarding the automatic defibrillator
donated by the Abt family at Barber Street Sports Complex, specifically accessibility
which the City Manager is looking into.
Ms. Simchick discussed Mary Ann Krueger's concerns for the herbicide spraying of the
pond near her home by Mr. Eggleston, said that he had sprayed five times in two months
which she herself found excessive and said that she will be following up with DEP on the
issue to determine if there is excessive spraying happening.
B. Council Member Wolff
Mr. Wolff asked if there was liability to the City due to the location of the automatic
defibrillator in the City Park and the City Attorney responded the City's responsibility is to
act reasonably, the issue has been raised as to where the defibrillator should be and the
requirement is that the City act reasonably. He suggested if the AED were to be moved
there should be some signs indicating the specific location.
Mr. Wolff expressed concern for the design of the new pedestrian bridges, citing the
danger of children using it as a ladder and sitting on the top rail. The City Manager said
staff looked at it and were advised that the bars are there for safety and for structure. He
said he would provide a written correspondence to that effect for Council.
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Regular City Council Meeting
June 10, 2009
Page Fifteen
C. Mavor Gillmor
Mayor Gillmor reiterated Mr. WolfPs concern about the bridges. He announced the
public forum he and Commission Chairman Davis will conduct on Tuesday, June 16
from 6 pm to~ 7 pm in the Council Chambers, noting they will discuss the proposed
sidewalk which is planned north of the city limits on Indian River Drive.
D. Vice Mayor Hill
None.
E. Council Member Coy
Ms. Coy urged residents to clean up after their pets in City parks.
17. Being no further business, Mayor Gillmor adjourned the meeting at 9:41 p.m.
Approved at the June 24, 2009 Regular City Council Meeting.
Richard H. Gillmor, Mayor
ATTE T:
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Sally A. Mai , MMC -City Clerk
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FW: Annexation in Sebastian Page 1 of 1
John King
From: Rebecca Grohall [RGrohall@CityOfSebastian.org]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:01 PM
To: jking@realtyking.com
Subject: FW: Annexation in Sebastian
John -
Email and attachments for Mustaccia annexation.
From: Rebecca Grohall
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:47 AM
To: tiames_mustacchia@hotmail.com'
Subject: Annexation in Sebastian
Jim -
I apologize for not sending you this earlier.
I have completed the analysis of your property based on your most recent assessed values (the property appraiser's
office is projecting a reduction this coming year in assessed values but they probably won't calculate that till this
summer).
The first analysis is your current ad valorem assessment, the second one is the assessment if you were to annex
into the City.
The application fees are $3,750 total. I've spoken with the City Manager who has agreed that the City will waive the
annexation fees to offset any increase in ad valorem in the short run, however, this offer has a limited time frame -
an application should be made within the next 3 months to take advantage of the waived fees.
«m ustach ia_taxes. pdf»
The City application for annexation consists mainly of a letter requesting annexation and survey. The City requires
an application made for the rezoning and change of land use - we would establish a change from the County's
zoning/land use.
Those forms are here:
http://www.cityofsebastian org/pdfs/Comprehensive%20PIan%20Amendment%20%20Land%20Use pdf
http~//www cityofsebastian org/pdfs/Rezoning_pdf
http://www.cityofsebastian.org/PDFs/GM PERMITFEES.pdf
I'll be out of the office till Wed. but available after that if you have questions.
Rebecca Grohall, AICP
Growth Management Director
City of Sebastian
rgrohall~cityofsebastian.org
(772)388-8228
6/10/2009
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TO: Members of the Sebasti City Council
FROM: AI Minner, City Manage
RE: STORMWATER PON YING
DATE: Wednesday, June 10 20
At the request of Council Member Simchick, I have pulled the latest a-mail correspondence
between the City (Margie Reynolds), Bill Eggleston and Mary Ann Kruger. Please let me know if
you have any questions about this material.
Alfred Minner
From: Margaret Reynolds
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 4:04 PM
To: Alfred Minner
Subject: FW: [spam] Re: Spraying
Below is the email sent to Mr & Mrs Kruger to follow up my visit to their home to discuss
the spraying.
Invasive vegetation removal is best conducted as often as needed to control the vegetative
growth/regrowth. Following the application recommendations (required by law) for licensed
applicators, this can be done on a weekly basis during the growth season (spring/summer)
and repeated again in the fall if necessary. The formula that is being used has an EPA
limit of 10 oz per gallon our applicator is using 2 oz per gallon.
Because he missed Saturday (Memorial Holiday weekend) and last Saturday, (2 weeks in May)
I sent notice that it would be possible that spraying would be conducted on June 6 and
would notify them if this was scheduled. I was out sick on Friday, and unfortunately was
not able to notify them absolute.
I have the file that contains the email notifications, etc.
Thanks,
Margie Reynolds
Environmental Planner
City of Sebastian
-----Original Message-----
From: Margaret .Reynolds
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:22 AM
To: 'Marv & Mary Ann Krueger'
Cc: Alfred Minner; Bill (E-mail 2)
Subject: RE: [spam] Re: Spraying
Hi Mary Ann,
Thanks for the fax copy of the news article and the diquat dibromide information.
Mr. Eggleston is not using diquat, I provided you a copy of the MSDS sheet of the chemical
Aqua Neat that gives the information on what he is using.
As I had mentioned before, we only use the airboat spraying on surface water stormwater
treatment facilities in our City and we do not have any plans to use the airboat at this
facility because Mr. Eggleston is maintaining the invasive vegetation. when he sprays
these species, pennywort, cattail, torpedograss, etc (there is a list in the book I
provided to you) it provides part of the basic maintenance of the stormwater treatment
facility, and provides treatment of stormwater runoff from the urbanized areas, which is a
requirement in the State of Florida.
I teach stormwater education to our citizens to assist in minimizing urban contributions
to pollutant loadings into our waterways, which in reality, if there were no discharges of
any pollutants (non-point source) then spraying vegetation could eventually be eliminated.
I will be happy to let you know when the next class is scheduled.
I will continue to provide to you notice of the spraying activity as it occurs.
If you have any questions, please feel free to give me a call.
Thanks,
Margie Reynolds
Environmental Planner
City of Sebastian
-----Original Message-----
From: Marv & Mary Ann Krueger [mailto:mpkru234@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, May O1, 2009 6:09 PM
To: Margaret Reynolds
Subject: [spam] Re: Spraying
Importance: Low
Prove to us that this pond needs spraying. Tell us exactly what weeds, what
poisons, and what would happen legally if the city did not spray. And we
would like to know how much actual dollars are being saved the taxpayer. Mr.
Terry Hill who engineered this pond did not think much of it as a stormwater
pond. He died very young from a very bad cancer. He is Jim Hill's father.
There are children playing in the dry pond. Who is going to keep them out or
do you agree with the statements of the county in Thursday's paper that "you
can drink the stuff. Did you see the complaint re the dead fish after
spraying Diquat? the person reporting it was Billi Wagner..a very noted
conservationist. You are telling us that we will hve to keep our home shut
up for hours. What is that going to do to our energy bills? Do not think you
should threaten us with the "airboat" No matter how spraying is done it is
illegal to have drift. You people are unbelievable! Have you no pity or
common sense? You are making us feel like migrant workers I would think
that after reading T burs. paper you would do your homework before
continuing allowing this numnuts to continue exposing us and the birds to
this continued harrassment. He is as unprofessional as I have ever seen. Of
course your city "low on the totum pole" people are no better. they are out
there exposing everybody and themselves including children all the time. You
cannot call yourself a conservatioist and Condon herbicides. Since you do
not seem to read the paper I will fax the article to you. If he is out there
tomorrow and it is windy .............
Mary Ann and Marv Krueger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Margaret Reynolds" <mreynolds@CityofSebastian.org>
To: <mpkru234@bellsouth.net>
Cc: "Alfred Minner" <aminner@cityofsebastian.org>; "Bill (E-mail 2)"
<egglestonwilliam@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: Spraying
Hi Maryann,
Sorry I missed you the other day. We worked out a plan which will require
notification of spraying events.
The spraying schedule is as follows:
Beginning this Saturday and each Saturday morning (weather permitting, wind,
rain) for about 3 hours until the end of May. He may need to substitute
Sunday, if the weather isn't cooperative on Saturdays. No Holidays. This
will be to remove the invasive aquatic vegetation in the middle of the
stormwater pond and along the sides, while it is dry.
As I had mentioned, we are required to manage the aquatic vegetation in all
of the city's stormwater facilities.
Please jot down my phone number, I usually have it on during the weekends.
453-5218, my office is 388-8212 during the week in case you have further
concerns.
After the end of May, the next spraying will be conducted in October or
thereabouts and once about every 2 months during the high water season. He
will not be spraying on the surface water during this season.
I will contact you each time he plans to spray to keep you notified.
Thank you for all your assistance, and if I can answer any of your
questions, please feel free to contact me.
2
Alfred Minner
From: Margaret Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:38 PM
To: Marv & Mary Ann Krueger (E-mail)
Cc: Alfred Minner
Subject: Spraying
Hi Mary Ann,
I apologize for not being able to get with you this past weekend. I was under the weather. I had mentioned on my previous
email that spraying would probably occur on June 6, and I wasn't able to let you know absolute.
This weekend there will be no spray treatment.
The following Saturday, June 20 we need to spray the Alligator Weed it is getting out of control, and one of the worst
stormwater pond weeds in the State.
This will be the final seasonal spraying until the Fall season. For proper maintenance of stormwater facilities these
invasive species need to be erradicated during their growth season which is Spring/Summer and again in the Fall.
If, during the Summer we have a problem with flooding, clogging, or massive growth of invasive vegetation, we may need
to spray again but it seems unlikely due to the sufficient applications and treatment conducted so far.
Thank you for your email, and your voice mail concerns, as always, I will keep you posted.
Thanks,
Environmental Planner
City of Sebastian