HomeMy WebLinkAbout08262009City Council Present:
Mayor Richard H. Gillmor
Vice -Mayor Jim Hill
Council Member Andrea Coy
Council Member Dale Simchick
Council Member Eugene Wolff
None.
CITY OF
HOME OF PELICAN ISLAND
SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 26, 2009 6:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
1. Mayor Gillmor called the regular meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
2. A moment of silence was held.
3. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
4. ROLL CALL
Staff Present:
City Manager, Al Minner
City Attorney, Robert Ginsburg
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Deputy City Clerk, Jeanette Williams
Airport Director, Joseph Griffin
Administrative Services Director, Deb Krueger
Finance Director, Ken Killgore
Police Chief, Michelle Morris
Police Captain, Greg Witt
MIS Senior Systems Analyst, Barbara Brooke -Reese
5. AGENDA MODIFICATIONS
Modifications and additions require unanimous voted of City Council members
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6. PROCLAMATIONS, AWARDS, BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENTS
Presentations of proclamations, certificates and awards, and brief timely announcements by Council and Staff.
No public input or action under this heading.
09.126 A. Proclamation National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery Month
1 September 2009
Mayor Gillmor read the proclamation. No recipient was in attendance.
Brief Announcements
None.
7 CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the consent agenda are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no
separate discussion of consent agenda items unless a member City Council so requests; in which event, the item
will be removed and acted upon separately. If a member of the public wishes to provide input on a consent agenda
item, he /she should request a Council Member to remove the item for discussion prior to start of the meeting or by
raising his/her hand to be recognized.
3 -10 A. Approval of Minutes 8/12/09 Regular Meeting
09.127 B. Renewal of Property, Casualty, Liability Workers' Compensation FY2009/2010
11 -14 (Administrative Services Transmittal, Exhibit A, Proposal)
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Hill to approve consent agenda items A and B.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: All
NAYS: None
5 -0
8. COMMITTEE REPORTS APPOINTMENTS
City committee reports and Council Member regional committee reports. No public input or action except for City
committee member nominations and appointments under this heading.
09.128 A. Construction Board
15 -32 (City Clerk Transmittal, Applications, Ad, List)
Interview Unless Waived, and Submit Nominations for the Following Three
Positions:
Regular Member, Engineer or Architect, Expiring 9/30/12
Regular Member, Contractor, Expiring 9/30/12
Regular Member, Contractor, Expiring 9/30/12
The City Clerk announced that applicants Jim Morris and Shawn Hosey had prior
commitments and could not be in attendance but were both interested in being reappointed.
MOTION by Mayor Gillmor and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to re- appoint Mr. Hosey, Mr. Morris,
and Mr. Widup to another term passed with a voice vote of 5 -0.
9. PUBLIC HEARINGS None
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10. UNFINISHED BUSINESS None
11. PUBLIC INPUT None
12. NEW BUSINESS
09.129 A. First Reading of Ordinance 0 -09 -12 Noise Schedule Public Hearing and Final
33 -38 Adoption Date (City Attorney Transmittal, 0- 09 -12)
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA,
REPEALING SECTION 66 -3 (4) AND ENACTING CHAPTER 67; OF THE CODE OF
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA, RELATING TO UNNECESSARY
AND EXCESSIVE NOISE; PROVIDING ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES AND EXEMPTIONS;
REPEALING CONFLICTING PROVISIONS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
The City Attorney read ordinance 0 -09 -12 by title.
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Hill to approve Ordinance No. 0- 09 -12.
6:36 pm The City Attorney briefly presented the provisions of the ordinance which was a result of
discussions with Councilmember Wolff about noise complaints in residential districts,
and which he tailored to the needs of a City of our size and demographics. He said
someone with a home next to railroad tracks may have different expectations than
someone in a residential area. He noted that in accordance with provisions of the
ordinance, an officer upon arriving at the scene of a violation would give the offender a
detailed first oral or written warning, and then five minutes to comply, and if there was no
compliance, the officer would write the first citation and succeeding fines would rapidly
accelerate.
He cited the exemptions on circle page 37, #3 of which excludes non residential areas
which reflects the thinking that people who choose to live in areas where noise will be a
factor, have little justification for things to be absolutely quiet. He said adoption of a
noise ordinance sends a message that you are serious and if in the future there are
problems in commercial areas they know you can bring back the ordinance and amend it
to eliminate the exemption. He said businesses, when approached have sometimes
been cooperative and sometimes not.
The City Attorney said the ordinance can be enforced with or without a meter, said he
had indicated that anything five decibels or louder than ambient sound would be a
violation, however, if Council thought this was too low it can be changed now or at the
hearing. He noted the Police Chief thought her officers could enforce this ordinance. He
sought direction from Council.
Public Comment
Fran Southern, representing Earl's Hideaway, said Earl's is willing to cooperate, cited
their 2 -6 pm Sunday concerts noting they are in a commercial district, and said they
have had only one complaint. She asked if we are going to use decibel readings, would
they be taken from the residence of the complainant or from the establishment itself.
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Mayor Gillmor said establishments like Earl's would be exempt from the ordinance and
the City Attorney confirmed that was correct.
Cathy McKenzie, Area Director External Affairs, A T T, requested language on
emergency restoration and maintenance work to be included in the ordinance.
The City Attorney read A T T's requested language:
Add to end of Exemption Number 4: including without limitation noises from
generators or other equipment used by communications companies or other utility
companies due to a commercial power outage or in connection to restoration of
service operations."
Tuck Ferrell, 12546 N. Highway A1A, said he sent an e-mail to Council regarding a
problem that was the worst ever with loud music from Hirams once again this past
Saturday night. He said he guessed he would have to start calling the County
Commission because we are violating the County noise ordinance. He expressed
concern for the effect the loud noise is having on birds within the river islands, said he
had also heard from people in Windsor who have complaints about the noise, people
can't sleep, and cited the fact that his windows were shaking Saturday. He said the
music stopped at 1 am. He said he has not had any problems with Earl's.
6:57 pm Cathy Ferrell, 12546 N. Highway A1A, said they are 2.5 miles from Hirams and cited the
noise problem from Saturday night, said she thought we had all been in agreement that
the ordinance would apply to residential and commercial, suggested Hirams could revise
their layout to point their equipment toward the business district, noting Earl's equipment
faces north, and Hirams has said they would moderate their equipment.
Ms. Simchick asked Mrs. Ferrell what time she made the complaint on Saturday night
and if her windows were open. Mrs. Ferrell replied their windows were closed with the
A/C on and they were wearing ear plugs. She said there are 12 -15 houses being
impacted.
Mr. Wolff asked how long this situation has gone on. Mrs. Ferrell said there was minimal
noise for ten years but since Capt. Hiram's began their concert series the noise has
become unbearable and Saturday night wasn't even a concert. She said there could be
a fair ordinance that applies to businesses.
Mr. Hill said we need to separate the two issues, that tonight is a noise ordinance for the
residents of the City of Sebastian, then suggested they have a meeting with all
businesses to talk about how to mitigate the noise. He apologized to the Ferrell's for the
noise on Saturday night.
Mrs. Ferrell again said they are in violation of the County ordinance, to which Mr. Hill and
Mayor Gillmor responded this did not preclude Council from sitting down with businesses
or amending the ordinance at a later time.
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Ms. Simchick disagreed that they are separate issues citing the many complaints from
residents on this side of the river she has received. She suggested there should be an
expectation of time for commercial noise, and said noise complaints should not be
anonymous because readings have to be taken from the site of the complainant.
Mrs. Ferrell noted Hirams usually shuts down between 12:45 am to 1 am.
Ruth Sullivan, 1215 Indian River Drive, said she was glad Council was going to enact
the ordinance but strongly disagreed with exempting businesses. She noted when you
talk with businesses they comply for a little time and then crank it up again and
reasonable limits have to be set.
Mr. Wolff said the genesis of this was many months ago in discussions with the City
Attorney after he had received complaints from residents who were seeking recourse
from egregious noise problems that are disturbing quality of life. He said he requested
a simple ordinance that did not bog down business, and that dealing with the noise from
commercial will involve Council, the Chamber and businesses sitting down. He said he
saw the exclusion as an incentive, we exclude at this point and apply peer pressure, and
businesses will police each other, however, at any time, Council can go back and
change the ordinance. He agreed to workshop this with the community but his emphasis
tonight was to bring relief to the residential areas.
Mr. Wolff said he did some research on decibel levels as follows: 50 decibels is an AC
unit; a 1% change can't be noticed, a 3% difference is bringing change; a 5% change is
clearly noticeable and a 10% change is twice as loud. He said we need to hash out
where the measurement is taken and further discussion should be held on the increase
of decibels. He asked that Council move forward if they were in agreement and take the
next step in meeting with the commercial district.
Ms. Coy agreed they are two separate issues, disagreed with making a big deal with the
business district because the complaints are only from Capt Hiram's and sometimes
Earl's, determine through the PD where the complaints are coming from, have the
people with the complaints meet with the City Manager and if they don't comply come
back and redo the ordinance.
7:25 pm Mayor Gillmor agreed it is separate issues but we need to be good neighbors. He said
you will get a higher increased reading than 5 decibels with a band playing. Mr. Wolff
noted amplified rock music is 150 decibels.
Ms. Simchick said she agreed with what we are trying to accomplish, said she had never
had a call about Earl's and the time of their concerts is not unreasonable, said she would
agree with the exemptions but suggested the 2 reading be in 30 days and if problems
with businesses continue the ordinance could be changed. She said these concerts in
open space are great for business but the businesses must be good neighbors. She also
suggested 8 pm may be too early to cease use of equipment in residential areas and
said maybe it should be dusk to dawn or sunrise to sunset.
Mr. Hill said most lawn companies are done by 8 p.m., that sunset is too arbitrary and if
necessary to change it, set a specific time. Mr. Wolff said working in your yard to 9:00
pm is nothing. Mr. Hill agreed with 9 pm.
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Ms. Simchick said she would support the motion but she feels bad for the Ferrells, said
she also receives complaints from residents on 130 who get lost in the jurisdiction
route.
Mr. Hill thanked Mr. Wolff for the decibel level information and asked if it included an
average ambient level. Mr. Wolff responded rock music is 150, lawn mower 92, car with
missing muffler 115 and most ambient level is 55 -65.
Ms. Simchick said in her experience it is more like 80.
Mr. Hill asked if this could be done in two weeks.
At the request of Council, the City Attorney re- stated the A T T requested language:
Add to end of Exemption Number 4: including without limitation noises from
generators or other equipment used by communications companies or other utility
companies due to a commercial power outage or in connection with restoration of
service operations."
Ms. Coy amended her original MOTION and SECOND by Mayor Gillmor to approve the
first reading of 0 -09 -12 with the A T T proposed amendment.
Ms. Simchick asked for clarification of prohibiting power tools and landscaping
equipment after 9:00 p.m. and Ms. Coy said that was included in her motion. Mayor
Gillmor agreed to add this to the motion.
The City Attorney announced the public hearing is to be held September 23 2009.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: All
NAYS: None
5 -0
Mayor Gillmor suggested asking Hirams to do an ambient reading at the end of the dock
to see if sound is going across the river and perhaps recant the speakers.
The City Manager was directed to have the Police Chief determine which businesses are
the loud establishments and get everyone together to discuss compliance.
09.130 B. Renewal of Group Health, Dental, Vision, Long Term Disability and Life
39 -59 Insurances FY2009/2010 (Administrative Services Transmittal, Analysis and
Recommendation)
The City Manager introduced the City's insurance broker, Curt Gehring of the Gehring
Group.
Mr. Gehring said the projections indicated no increase even though the carrier
recommended an 8% increase which was reduced through negotiations, giving the
entire program a $3,000 increase for the next twelve months. He noted that while
Indian River County is not there yet, carriers are offering discounts for on -site clinics.
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Mayor Gillmor asked how long disability is paid. Mr. Gehring said a claim goes until
age 65 than integrates with Social Security.
Mr. Wolff said the Gehring Group has done a good job and there would probably be an
increase if it went out to bid.
MOTION by Mr. Wolff and SECOND by Mr. Hill to approve the renewal of group
health, dental, vision, long term disability, and life insurances for FY2009/2010.
Mr. Gilliams asked if a saving might have occurred if it went out to bid.
The City Manager explained the premium is steady but our expenses have gone down
because there are less employees and noted the Gehring Group did procure this for
us.
Mr. Wolff said this is an extremely important benefit that staff is earning and to
jeopardize it by exposing it to competitive bidding would be counter productive and he
didn't agree with the speaker on this.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: All
NAYS: None
5 -0
The Mayor called for a recess at 7:57 p.m. 8:08 pm all were present.
09.120 C. M. C. Miller Company, Inc. Parking Use Agreement 11640 U.S. Highway 1
61 -63 (City Manager Transmittal, Agreement, Exhibit)
The City Manager said this is for temporary use of parking facilities, noting the owner,
Mr. Hilberts, is more than happy to lend the parking lot for the City's special events,
renewing each year.
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Hill to approve the parking use agreement.
Damien Gilliams, 1623 U.S. Hwy 1, asked how small enterprise can compete with big
government. Mayor Gillmor replied not very well. Mr. Gilliams asked if government
ever compensates small business for stepping on them in the process. Mayor Gillmor
said only when required by law. Mr. Gilliams asked the Mayor if he had any
conscience, any feeling, if people take food or money out of his pocket, noting he can
only direct his dialog to the Mayor. Mayor Gillmor said he probably would not like it.
Mr. Hill called for a point of order, and said while the speaker is to direct his comments
to the Mayor, the speaker is to address the body as a whole.
Mr. Gilliams said he spoke to the Mayor because he was in small business so he could
relate to him. Mr. Gilliams said the little guy should be considered for compensation.
Louise Kautenburg, thanked Council for the lease for the betterment of the community.
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Ms. Coy said we are half way there and asked the City Manager where we are with the
other owner, Mr. Green. The City Manager said he hasn't spoken to Mr. Green.
Ms. Coy asked him to add the insurance to the agreement and said this is a result of
the complaints she has received. She thanked Mr. Hilberts and noted we need to
make accommodations for his tenants: Country Ham and Eggs, Al's Place and
Patty's.
Mr. Wolff said there should be a temporary sign made up to thank Mr. Hilberts for the
use of his property and ask the public to respect his property. The City Manager said
he would take care of that.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: All
NAYS: None
5 -0
09.131 D. CDBG Entitlement Update (City Manager Transmittal)
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The City Manager explained Ms. Simchick bought to his attention that federal monies
are provided for specific improvements through the Entitlement Communities Program,
and every year a community has option to opt in or not.
He said he has sent notice to HUD to accept entitlement monies (estimated at $88,280
a year) requiring a litany of things that need to be done to complete the process to
move forward in economic fashion at the Airport. He said staff would like to put
together a proposal and bring back to Council at their direction.
Ms. Simchick said she met Gary Causey, Community Planning Development Field
Office Director, HUD, at the Florida League Cities conference who recommended that
we apply for the entitlement funds. She said the City Manager did a letter of request
and the next step is to do a consolidated plan showing workshop time put in; and she
noted in year 2010 the award is anticipated to be 18% higher.
She said one possibility is that we can apply for a section 108 loan, which is five times
the amount at 2% interest, with no match money to use for economic development,
and we can use the entitlement money to pay the loan back.
MOTION by Mayor Gillmor and SECOND by Ms. Coy to approve. Mr. Hill clarified a
directive from Council to move forward is all that is needed.
Ms. Simchick said she found this opportunity exciting and suggested bringing the City
Manager to the conference in the future, as he could have assisted her with her fact
finding with Mr. Causey.
Mr. Wolff asked if the money could be used for roads in the business community. The
City Manager said yes, it has to be tied into creating jobs and he cautioned there is
homework to do.
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Ms. Simchick read the eligible activities:
construction of public facilities and improvements, such as
water and sewer facilities, streets, neighborhood centers,
and the conversion of school buildings for eligible purposes;
public services, within certain limits; activities relating to
energy conservation and renewable energy resources; and
provision of assistance to profit- motivated businesses to
carry out economic development and job creation /retention
activities
Ms. Simchick asked the other members to think of projects.
09.125 E. Work Authorization for Airport Drive Access Road East to the LPA Group, Inc. for
67 -74 Construction Services in the Amount of $49,724 (Airport Transmittal, Scope,
Estimate, Authorization)
8:32 pm The Airport Director explained this is for the LPA Group who will monitor the construction
of the access road, provide for a professional engineer to sign off on the project and he
recommended approval.
MOTION by Mr. Hill and SECOND by Ms. Coy to approve access road east project work
authorization number one.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: All
NAYS: None
5 -0
09.132 F. City Manager Grant Approval Authority Runway 4/22 Improvements
75 -80 (Airport Transmittal, FAA Notice, Typical Grant)
The Airport Director said this is relating to the licensing of Runway 4/22 where we
have to move the lights inbound, improve the markings and other things to bring
it into compliance.
He explained the FAA would like all of the bids to come forward ahead of time for
the $383,000+ portion of the grant as their fiscal year closes September 23. He
anticipated receiving the grant and asked authorization for the City Manager to
accept the grant when it comes forward.
MOTION by Mr. Hill and SECOND by Ms. Coy to authorize the City Manager to
move forward and accept the FAA grant designated for Runway 4/22
improvements.
Result of the roll call:
AYES: All
NAYS: None
5 -0
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13. CITY ATTORNEY MATTERS None
14. CITY MANAGER MATTERS None
15. CITY CLERK MATTERS
The City Clerk reminded the public that qualifying ends next Friday, September
4 at 4:30 p.m. for anyone interested.
16. CITY COUNCIL MATTERS
A. Council Member Simchick None
B. Council Member Wolff
Richard Gillmor, Mayor
ATTEST:
Sally A. Maio, MMC City Clerk
Mr. Wolff reminded the public that school is back in session, asked everyone
to be careful in their morning and evening drive as the children are out and
often they don't see you but hopefully you see them.
C. Mayor Gillmor None
D. Vice Mayor Hill None
E. Council Member Coy None
17. Being no further business, Mayor Gillmor adjourned the regular meeting at 8:37 p.m.
Approved at the September 9 2009 Regular City Council Meeting.