HomeMy WebLinkAbout08112010CRA1. Mayor Gillmor called the Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting to order at
5:00
P.
m.
3. ROLL CALL
Mayor Richard H. Gillmor
Vice -Mayor Jim Hill
Council Member Andrea Coy
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Council Member Don Wright
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES None
5. NEW BUSINESS
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HOME OF PEUCAN ISLAND
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY (CRA)
(CITY COUNCIL)
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 11, 2010 5:00 PM
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN ST, SEBASTIAN, FL
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
Staff Present:
City Manager, Al Minner
City Attorney, Robert Ginsburg
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Deputy City Clerk, Jeanette Williams
Finance Director, Ken Killgore
Growth Management Director, Rebecca Grohall
Police Captain, Mike Beyer
Police Captain, Robert Lockhart
MIS Senior Systems Analyst, Barbara Brooke -Reese
A. Gateways
Presentation Frank Watanabe, P.E., Neel- Schaffer, Inc.
Frank Watanabe, P.E., Neel- Schaffer, Inc. gave a PowerPoint presentation of possible
gateway concepts for the US 1 and Indian River Drive corridors (see attached).
In response to Ms. Coy, Mr. Watanabe said the logo is actually colored asphalt imbedded
into the roadway that will fade with time as the roadway material breaks down but may last
as long as the asphalt, possibly up to ten years.
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Mr. Hill said he had some comments to make but would like to hear from the public.
Mr. Wolff said he thought Mr. Watanabe's idea of critical mass, repeating a design across
the roadway where possible, was a good themed idea and worth exploring, and favored
the idea of textured pavement across the roadway areas.
Mr. Wright suggested enhancing or modifying the existing City signs instead of replacing
them. Mr. Watanabe answered that the existing signs can be saved and modified. Mr.
Wright asked how streetscaping could be achieved where there is no room to install
anything such as on Indian River Drive or where there is no publicly owned property. Mr.
Watanabe said you can use the sides of the roadway, co -share lands to create critical
mass and work with FDOT to install higher landscaping as allowed.
Mr. Wolff said the stone monuments such as the one in Vero Beach and in south Florida
are nice but do not represent Sebastian, but the designs provided by Mr. Watanabe
replicates Sebastian, and thought the trailblazer signs were a great idea and inexpensive.
Mr. Hill discussed trailblazers signs he had recently seen in a small South Carolina town
which made him want to explore the area. He said it would be insane for the City to
replace the City signs that we spent thousands on only nine to ten years ago which
contain important wording of historic value to Sebastian. He said he also liked the
crosswalks and landscaping.
Mayor Gillmor agreed the signs we have are wonderful, and noted if we installed new
signs they may have to be moved if we change our City borders.
ii. Public Input
John Peters presented photographs showing 22 signs in the vicinity that say "Keep Off the
Median an overabundance of poles and colored sprayed markings on Indian River Drive
indicating location of County utilities infrastructure, and no parking signs. He submitted the
photos for the record to the Clerk. He said he had spoken to Ernie Olsen with Indian River
County Utilities who told him they may have gone a little overboard putting in poles. He
then said he had contacted agencies such as Citizens for Scenic Florida, Florida Highway
Beautification Council, Indian River Lagoon Scenic Byway, KIRB, and Commissioner Joe
Flescher who knew nothing about the proliferation of signs and poles. He said he loved
this place but did not understand the need for so many signs, citing the 510 causeway
which went from 72 signs to 32.
The City Manager said the poles are utility markers placed by Indian River County.
Donna Keyes said she would volunteer to work with a member of staff and a member of
City Council to look into these signs and would follow up with the County.
Lisanne Robinson said there are "no parking" signs everywhere, said she did not see brick
pavers near the parks but did see them at the Main Street intersection where people walk.
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She suggested stamped parking areas on US 1, and said she had concepts she would
share with staff. She recommended looking at the district as a whole which will bring in
business and people.
Damien Gilliams said he had missed the past few meetings and Council had raised the
millage while he was away, and asked why we are using CRA funds for individuals in the
community and why we do not go out for bid.
Mr. Hill called a point of order and said we are talking about gateways. Mr. Gilliams said
this is connected and Ms. Coy asked that he be required to stick to topic.
Mr. Gilliams asked how much money was allocated in the budget for gateways when
roads in the district need repair, noting we are taking DST funds to fix roads.
Mayor Gillmor said not a dime is set aside yet. Mr. Gilliams said the City Manager is
shifting funds around, and Mayor Gillmor said Council allocates funds not staff.
Mr. Gilliams said he did not want taxes raised for gateways, and before they construct
gateways they should pave roads, and suggested getting rid of the occupational license
tax.
Mr. Hill pointed out that Council instructed the City Manager to proceed with a parking
study and immediately thereafter go after funding to repair the streets.
Mr. Wolff said he had a question for Mr. Gilliams.
Ms. Coy said this is not a place for campaigning.
Mr. Wolff asked where the newspaper got the idea we are going to spend $300,000 on
gateways, and the City Manager said they got it from him in his attempt to create a
gateway budget based on engineering estimates and the problem is that we don't know
the parameters of what they are trying to accomplish and he is trying to plan in the public
forum and folks should know these are estimated numbers. He said the $250,000 number
is an estimate from Neel- Schaffer for landscape, potentially new signs, curb cuts, and
embossing; it can be modified at Council direction; and by September 30 we will have a
plan for FY2011.
Mr. Wolff asked if the advertised number influences the people who bid on the work. The
City Manager said it does but we are duty bound to be transparent.
Mr. Wright said he hasn't seen any number for this type of work. The City Manager said
last year there was $750,000 allocated for Cavcorp and based on the discussions from the
last meeting where parking, survey, parking improvements, gateways and others were
prioritized, he tried to express that all of those could be done at once.
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Council Discussion
Mayor Gillmor said the current signage is good.
Mr. Hill said there isn't a lot of difference with the proposed signs, he said moving the US
1 sign closer to the park with landscaping, using trailblazer signs will make a huge
difference that won't cost $350,000. He asked for the real numbers for the items and he
said it is a disservice for Council to act as the CRA when there are people wiling to find
solutions for the problems in the District and he requested that be on an agenda soon.
Mr. Wolff agreed the enhancement of existing signs could be done on a modest scale,
textured paving can help identify parking, but cautioned on defining the district's
boundaries as the City will grow.
He said he didn't agree with turning the CRA over to Ms. Robinson. Mr. Hill clarified that
he did not identify any person and he would look forward to the discussion at a Council
meeting. Ms. Coy said she also looked forward to discussing the makeup of the board as
she is also against turning the board over to appointed citizens.
Ms. Coy recounted the following four enhancements:
1 Directional signs
2 Keep the existing signs but do better with the bases, add flowers,
add a better sign at Riverview Park
3 Additional pavers for crosswalks and parking
4 Consistent landscaping plan
In response to Ms. Coy's directional sign cost inquiry, Mr. Watanabe reported they would
be about $200. -300. each.
Mayor Gillmor suggested having the high school design a sign for the Riverview Park.
Ms. Keys reminded Council that the Sebastian Fine Arts and Music Festival has pledged
$10,000 to provide artistic directional signs.
Mr. Wright agreed with the directional signs; a better riverfront sign; he volunteered to go
with Ms. Keys to identify sign clutter along the corridors; agreed that the existing signs
need enhanced and liked the curbed bump -out in the renderings.
The City Manager said he would come back to the Board with a detailed budget figure
with a whittled down DST figure.
Damien Gilliams urged the Board to get three proposals from engineering firms.
6. Being no further business, Mayor Gillmor adjourned the CRA meeting at 6:13 p.m.
Approved at the 9 22 /10 CRA meeting.
ATTEST:
Bch H. llmor, Mayor Sally A. Mai. MC City Clerk
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Sebastian may spruce up "gateways"
don't mind you spending $300,000.00 for beautification
I have been here 5 years and loved the area
Been going downhill last coule of years. Government graffitti
Why spend it when the government is uglifiing the same area?
See pictures of gateways on US1 Indian River Drive.
There are more post coming. Purple for recycled water.
The poles are the result of Ernie Olsen of the department of public Works.
Quote "they may have gone overboard" by Ernie.
Who is running the show? Waste of our money unless it snows.
Did he let anyone go because of these poles?
Citizens for a scenic Florida NOTHING
Florida Highway Beautification Council NOTHING
Indian River Lagoon National Scenic Byway MAYBE
Keep Indian River Beautiful NOTHING
They are promoting the indoor green market
Joe Flesher NOTHING
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