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Recreation Advisory Committee
June 15, 2010
Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes
Called to order by the Chairman: Roll Call: The following members were present
Mr. Sims, Mr. Van Arsdall. Mr. Adams, Mrs. White, Mr. Tenerowicz, Mr. Simpson, Mr.
Pelletier was absent
Staff members present were Linda Kinchen, Secretary and Chris McCarthy, Parks
Superintendent, Al Minner, City Manager and Robert Ginsburg, City Attorney
Approval of minutes: None
Old Business: None
New Business: Splash Pad Canopy Mr. Minner Speaks to the committee regarding this
item and rest of the capital improvements.
Mr. Sims says he prefers the canvas cover
Mr. Adams also prefers canvas maybe in a silver color partially covering the splash pad
not the whole thing.
Mr. Simpson says likes the stadium idea for shade and canvas is fine
Mrs. White says we need more benches and Mr. Minner says that can be arranged.
Mr. Tenerowicz asks about the canvas being up for hurricanes and he is told it can easily
be taken down for storms. He says he doesn't like the canvas idea.
Mr. Van Arsdall says the cost and maintenance are a big concern In favor of canvas
Would like to have a couple of options so we can ask the public.
Mrs. White asks the city manager to explain all the funds for the projects.
He explains the funds and talks about the 2011 CIP proposal.
125,000 for the BSSC expansion
90,000 for the Racquet Ballcourt
50,000 Riverview Park Pavillions
50,000 Lift Station
12,000 Park Fountains
Mr. Van Arsdall says the league is putting off the 1000 yard field so we should put this
off for awhile however all the members are in favor of doing this now so we can be ready
when the league goes to 100 yards.
Pull the Racquet Ball request
Matt in favor Mr. Simpson defers to the committee since he wasn't around for the initial
discussion.
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Pavillion on Indian River Drive Mr. Simpson in favor
Mr. Adams said okay if we don't obstruct the view
Mr. Sims wants to know if it will interfere with the clambake festival. Al says no
Mr. Sims in favor
John in favor but locate so it doesn't obstruct the view
Joanne likes the open space feels we haven't had time to talk about them
The pavilion is pulled form the CIP
Is the lift station a need or a want and Mr. Minner says a need at this time.
Mr. Van Arsdall recommends approval if needed
Joanne in favor of the fountain requests all other members concur
Joanne says the dog park improvements should be back in because the trail and bridge
and restrooms were discussed at a previous meeting.
We need to prioritize improvements per Jay
Mr. Sims says pull the dog park improvements
John in favor of the walking trail and a small playground should be installed. Mr. Sims
says trails, bathroom and playground would be good.
Joanne says Azine Terrace is pulled
Mr. Minner says meet again before end of July like the 12 or 5 to discuss future
projects and prioritize Joanne wants a list of what they decided.
City Attorney speaks about legal matters pertaining to park usage for the next meeting
discussion
Discussion turns to the next meeting date goes back and forth finally it is decided that the
park Usage will be on the June 28 meeting and the capital improvements will be on the
July 26 meeting
Public Input: Sonny speaks on wildlife being relocated in the parks which is illegal
Should not allow this to happen with the rabies going on. Should put info on channel 25
or the website about this. City Manager says we can put something in the Pelican Brief.
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Lou ltaiseci. says many cities are getting away from community centers and we should
just put small buildings in the neighborhood parks also would like to see pavilions at
Hardee Park says we should put together a park master plan.
Meeting adjourned at 8PM
Approved July 26th, 2010 Regular Meeting B
C man, Parks and Recreation
Present:
JoAnn White Chair
Scott Simpson
John Tenerowicz
Jerome Adams
Excused:
Matthew Sims
Jay VanArsdall
Absent:
Jarad Pelletier
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MINUTES
PARKS RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
JUNE 28, 2010 REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, 5:30 P.M.
1. Chairman White called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m.
2. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. ROLL CALL
Staff Present:
Chris McCarthy, Parks Superintendent
Linda Kinchen, Recording Secretary
Robert Ginsburg, City Attorney
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: May 24, 2010
Mr. Adams questioned where the email address for Mr. Sims was incorrect as noted the
minutes. The Recording Secretary replied the address was incorrect on the website and
his name was spelled wrong.
MOTION by Mr. Simpson and SECOND by Mr. Adams passed on voice vote of 4 -0
Ms. White began the meeting by asking how someone goes about renting Riverview
Park. The Parks Superintendent said the individual calls him and if the date is available,
he will mail an application to them, noting if it is a big event than the City Manager will
review the returned application. She suggested having the applications on -line. The
Parks Superintendent said he preferred individuals check the date with him first.
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She noted the requirement police presence and asked if the applicant was the one to
contact the Police Department to hire the officers. The Parks Superintendent confirmed
the applicant would contact the Police Department if the event is over 75 people and the
City Manager could require additional officers.
Chairman White noted the Dog Park Committee was meeting at the Yacht Club and
asked if they were paying a fee. The Parks Superintendent said the Dog Park
Committee does not pay a fee, the City Manager has the discretion to waive the fee; and
some groups are grandfathered in the deed for free use of the Yacht Club.
In response to Chairman White, the Parks Superintendent said swimming was prohibited
at all City lakes.
Chairman White noted the City Council could deny events if they were found to be in
conflict with public policy and asked the City Attorney to define "public policy." The City
Attorney said the term is used in a broad way without describing anything specific but
would have to be looked at on a case -by -case basis to see if something is outrageous or
illegal. She also asked about "the best interest of the public." He said that is similar, in
that each application needs to be looked at; and the City Manager or Council may have
to rule on something staff felt was questionable.
Mr. Tenerowicz asked if an event was ever turned down. The Parks Superintendent
said he didn't think so, but the Exchange Club Blue Water Open pulled out because they
could not have a boat show.
Mr. Simpson suggested giving the applicant a way to appeal if they are turned down by
the City Manager. The City Attorney said this came up at the City Council meeting and a
sentence could be added, but it may not be necessary as Sebastian's City Council
opens every agenda item up for public comment, noting anybody can approach City
Council and receive discussion. Mr. Simpson said putting that in writing would be good.
The City Attorney suggested to making a note of things as they come up, keep a list, and
at the end of the meeting have a motion to include all of the recommended changes.
In the interest keeping focus, MOTION by Chairman White and SECOND by Mr.
Simpson putting in the wording that a park event permit that is denied by the City
Manager can be appealed to the City Council was approved with a voice vote of 4 to 0.
Mr. Tenerowicz asked if there was a fee for the small gazebos at the Park. The
Superintendent said no and it was a first come, first serve and they only run out of dates
for the large pavilion.
Mr. Tenerowicz said when the big gazebo is used, big vehicles back up to unload and
then pull out. He suggested parking enforcement should be done because letting them
stay there allows the sod, flowers, and sprinklers heads get destroyed. Chairman White
agreed but it would have to be applied across the board.
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Chairman White asked what are the reduced fees the Art Club is referring to in their
backup. The Superintendent said the fee is $50.00 per show and Council approves
cutting that in half because of the Club's community work.
The Parks Superintendent answered Chairman White's questions regarding the show
dates. The Superintendent noted he rents out the big pavilion when their shows are
taking place.
Mr. Simpson asked if the reduced fee has been approved by City Council. The
Superintendent said he did take it to Council, but they are deciding what to do.
Mr. Tenerowicz asked what groups received waived fees at the Yacht Club. The
Superintendent said the bridge club and Sebastian Property Owners Association were
grandfathered in by GDC, the City Manager allows the Coastguard Auxiliary and the dog
park committee to have free use. The yacht Club is mostly rented out for baby showers,
and birthday parties.
Mr. Simpson asked at what point Council can decide to reduce the fees. The City
Attorney said they have the power to do it and it could be added to the resolution if
needed.
Mr. Tenerowicz asked if the Art Club application was the same group that wants to use
the old cafeteria.
Alice Russell, Sebastian River Art Club, said it is only a certain part of their Club who are
asking to use the building and they will be using a separate check book to cover those
renovations.
Mr. Simpson suggested recommending that Council does not limit the use of the park
based on the Supreme Court opinion to avoid potential future lawsuits. The City
Attorney confirmed that everyone needs to be treated the same.
Chairman White said the Committee should review the resolution throughout the year.
Public Input
Alice Russell, Sebastian River Art Club, said when they first started they did not bring
cars into the Park but now the members are older and need to use the cars now. She
said they devised their own show rules which state "drive the car in, unload, and drive
out.
The Superintendent said cars are allowed in the Park at designated entranceways.
Ron Thomas requested that the Committee make it clear to City Council that the process
and application that is currently in place is more than adequate for the current situation
and allows many groups to use the Park. He also said for the last ten years, middle
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management and the current and past city managers have made the park use personal
and personable over other local government agencies.
Chairman White said that is part of the benefit of being a small town. She clarified that
when she suggested putting the application on -line, she was referring to the larger
events who might find answers to their questions on the website instead of making
telephone calls to the Superintendent.
MOTION by Mr. Simpson and SECOND by Mr. Tenerowicz to forward R -10 -15 as
amended to the City Council and recommend their approval was approved with a voice
vote of 4 of 0.
Jim Sunnycalb, Sebastian, noted there are people catching raccoons and releasing them
at the Dog Park and Stormwater Park. He stated this is illegal and he asked what is
being done to prevent the spread of rabies. The Superintendent said that would be
more of a Code Enforcement/Police issue or the erection of a sign.
Announcements:
The Parks Superintendent said on Saturday, July 3rd there would be a 5K run, the
celebration in the Park with fireworks at dusk.
Set July 26 Meeting Agenda
Chairman White noted they had agreed on the following CIP projects: Barber Street
light expansion, fountains in the Park, and the lift station. She said original talk of the
irrigation and landscaping would be done in three phases and asked if the landscaping
would be added. The Superintendent said the first phase was almost completed, and
second phase would irrigate the whole project, then landscaping would be added.
Chairman White said she would like to include the following CIP projects on the next
agenda and asked members to visit the sites and be prepared to provide input on the
following:
Azine Terrace park site (2011)
Barber and Acorn park site (2012)
Celtic and Crown park site for
Dog Park Trail and Bridge
The Riverview Park pavilion in the green space
spreading out the activities at the other passive City parks
Mr. Tenerowicz added the Splash Pad and Mr. Simpson added covered pavilions at
Hardee Park to the agenda.
5. Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 6:24 p.m.
Approved July 26, 2010 Regular Meeting By
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FISCAL YEARS 2011 -2016
FY 08 -09 FY 09 -10 FY 10 -11 FY 11 -12 FY 12 -13 FY 13 -14 FY 14 -15 FY 15 -16 Totals
Recreation Impact Fees 13,975 20,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 153,975
Return from Main Street Project Tram 217,508 217,508
Investment Income 201 12,500 10,791 8,839 5,262 4,952 5,264 5,580 53,390
PROJECTED REVENUE 231,684 32,500 30,791 28,839 25,262 24,952 25,264 25,580 424,873
Dog Park (Additional) 37,969
Englar Stormwater Park 9,451
Schumann Park 130,304
TOTAL FY 09 177,724
Schumann Park 66,546
Cavcor Parking Area 100,000
Skate Park Office 50,000
Riverview Park Splash Park Canopy 50,000
TOTAL FY 10 266,546
Barber Street Field Expansion 125,000
Lift Station Riverview Park 50,000
Park Fountains 12,000
TOTAL FY 11 187,000
Racketball Court 90,000
Riverview Park Pavillion 50,000
Bark Park Amenities 75,000
Azine Terrace Park 50,000
Barber /Acorn Park 50,000
TOTAL FY 12 315,000
Celtic/Crown Park 50,000
TOTAL FY 13 50,000
TOTAL FY 14
TOTAL FY 15
TOTAL FY 16
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BEGINNING FUND BALANCE 1,033,393 1,087,353 853,307 697,098 410,937 $386,199 411,151 436,416 1,033,393
TOTAL REVENUES 231,684 32,500 30,791 28,839 25,262 24,952 25,264 25,580 424,873
EXPENDITURES +DEBT +TRANSFE 177,724 266,546 187,000 315,000 50,000 0 0 0 996,270
ENDING FUND BALANCE 1,087,353 853,307 697,098 410,937 386,199 $411,151 436,416 461,996 461,996
FY 08 -09 FY 09 -10 FY 10 -11 FY 11 -12 FY 12 -13 FY 13 -14 FY 14 -15 FY 15 -16 Totals
BEGINNING FUND BALANCE:
ZoneA 190,863 216,980 112,700 105,526 83,502 92,428 101,445 110,570 190,863
Zone B 10,116 28,848 29,162 29,005 (21,158) (19,393) (17,606) (15,801) 10,116
Zone C 118,695 118,285 101,933 86,633 56,389 57,014 57,642 58,280 118,695
Zone D 713,719 786,997 673,270 539,693 355,962 319,908 333,429 347,125 713,719
All Zones 1,033,393 1,151,111 917,065 760,856 474,695 449,957 474,909 500,174 1,033,393
Recreation Impact Fees
Zone A 5,850 8,000 8,000 8,000 8,000 8,000 8,000 8,000 53,850
Zone B 1,300 2,000 2,000 2,000 2,000 2,000 2,000 2,000 13,300
Zone C
Zone D 6,825 10,000 10,000 10,000 10,000 10,000 10,000 10,000 66,825
All Zones 13,975 20,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 20,000 133,975
Investment Income
ZoneA 37 2,356 1,326 1,226 926 1,017 1,125 1,234 8,013
Zone B 2 313 343 337 (235) (213) (195) (176) 352
Zone C 23 1,284 1,199 1,006 625 628 639 650 5,405
Zone D 139 8,546 7,923 6,270 3,946 3,521 3,696 3,873 34,040
All Zones 201 12,500 10,791 8,839 5,262 4,952 5,264 5,580 47,810
Transfers:
ZoneA (20,230) 114,637 16,500 31,250 142,156
Zone B (17,430) 2,000 2,500 52,500 39,570
Zone C 433 17,637 16,500 31,250 65,819
Zone D (66,314) 132,273 151,500 200,000 50,000 467,459
All Zones (103,542) 266,546 187,000 315,000 50,000 715,004
Ending Balances:
ZoneA 216,980 112,700 105,526 83,502 92,428 101,445 110,570 119,803 110,570
Zone B 28,848 29,162 29,005 (21,158) (19,393) (17,606) (15,801) (13,978) (15,801)
Zone C 118,285 101,933 86,633 56,389 57,014 57,642 58,280 58,931 58,280
Zone D 786,997 673,270 539,693 355,962 319,908 333,429 347,125 360,998 347,125
All Zones 1,151,111 917,065 760,856 474,695 449,957 474,909 500,174 525,754 500,174
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PROJECTS:
Main Street Project Refund $217,508
Zone A (48,722) (48,722)
Zone B (19,793) (19,793)
Zone C (28,059) (28,059)
Zone D (120,934) (120,934)
(217,508) (217,508)
Schuman Park Improvements $175,000
Zone A 16,637 16,637 33,273
Zone B
Zone C 16,637 16,637 33,273
Zone D 33,273 33,273 66,546
66,546 66,546 133,092
Barber Street Field Expansion
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
Riverview Park Irrigation /Landscaping
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
RECREATION IMPACT FEE FUNDS
FISCAL YEARS 2011 -2016
FY 08 -09 FY 09 -10 FY 10 -11 FY 11 -12 FY 12 -13 FY 13 -14 FY 14 -15 Totals
125,000 125,000
125,000 125,000
Racquet Ball Court
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D 90,000 90,000
90,000 90,000
Dog Park $58,000
Zone A 9,492 18,750 28,242
Zone B
Zone C 9,492 18,750 28,242
Zone D 18,985 37,500 56,485
37,969 75,000 112,969
Englar Stormwater Park $16,000
Zone A 2,363 2,363
Zone B 2,363 2,363
Zone C 2,363 2,363
Zone D 2,363 2,363
9,451 9,451
Riverview Park Pavillion $50,000
Zone A 12,500 12,500
Zone B 2,500 2,500
Zone C 12,500 12,500
Zone D 22,500 22,500
50,000 50,000
Fountains at Parks
Zone A 4,000 4,000
Zone B
Zone C 4,000 4,000
Zone D 4,000 4,000
12,000 12,000
Cavcor Project $100,000
Zone A 48,000 48,000
Zone B 2,000 2,000
Zone C 1,000 1,000
Zone D 49,000 49,000
100,000 100,000
Splash Park Canopy $50,000
Zone A 25,000 25,000
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D 25,000 25,000
50,000 50,000
Skate Park Office $50,000
Zone A 25,000 25,000
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D 25,000 25,000
50,000 50,000
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Lift Station Riverview Park $50,000
Zone A 12,500 12,500
Zone B 2,500 2,500
Zone C 12,500 12,500
Zone D 22,500 22,500
50,000 50,000
Azine Terrace $50,000
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
Celtic Crown $50,000
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D
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50,000 50,000
50,000 50,000
Barber /Acorn $50,000
Zone A
Zone B
Zone C
Zone D 50,000 50,000
50,000 50,000
50,000 50,000
50,000 50,000
Totals (103,542) 266,546 187,000 315,000 50,000 715,004
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AGENDA
CITY OF SEBASTIAN
RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE
June 28, 2010
5:30 PM
1) Call Meeting to Order
2) Pledge of Allegiance
3) Roll Call
4) Approval of Minutes: May 24th, 2010
5) Old Business:
6) New Business
Park Usage and Fees
None
7) Input from Public
8) Chairman's Matters
9) Member comments
10) Staff Comments
11) Set next meeting date and agenda
11) Adjourn
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MEETING (OR HEARING) WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM
RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH
THE APPEAL IS TO BE HEARD. (286.0105 F.S.)
IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA), ANYONE WHO NEEDS A SPECIAL
ACCOMMODATION FOR THIS MEETING SHOULD CONTACT THE CITY'S ADA COORDINATOR AT 589-5330 AT LEAST
48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING.