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SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 12, 2011 - 6:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
1. Mayor Hill called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
2. A moment of silence was held.
3. Pledge of Allegiance was led by Girl Scout Troop 50043.
4. ROLL CALL
City Council Present:
Mayor Jim Hill
Vice -Mayor Don Wright
Council Member Andrea Coy
Council Member Richard H. Gillmor
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Staff Present:
City Manager, Al Minner
City Attorney, Robert Ginsburg
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Deputy City Clerk, Jeanette Williams
Administrative Services Director, Debra Krueger
Community Development Director, Joseph Griffin
Planner, Dorri Bosworth
Finance Director, Ken Killgore
Police Chief, Michelle Morris
MIS Engineer, Rob Messersmith
5. AGENDA MODIFICATIONS
Modifications and additions require unanimous voted of City Council Members
None.
6. PROCLAMATIONS, AWARDS, BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENTS
Presentations of proclamations, certificates and awards, and brief timely announcements by Council and Staff. No public
input or action under this heading.
A. Proclamation — Arts and Humanities Month — Accepted by Cultural Council
Chairman, Barbara Hoffman and Treasurer, Donna Lindsay
Mayor Hill read and presented the proclamation to Cultural Council Chairman,
Barbara Hoffman.
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B. Brief Announcements
Ms. Coy thanked everyone who tried to make the Latin Festival a success
despite the bad weather, citing the Sharks Marching Band, the City
Manager and Mr. Griffin; and Mayor Hill thanked the Public Works
Department.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the consent agenda are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no
separate discussion of consent agenda items unless a member of City Council so requests; in which event, the
item will be removed and acted upon separately. If a member of the public wishes to provide input on a consent
agenda item, he /she should request a Council Member to remove the item for discussion prior to start of the
meeting or by raising his/her hand to be recognized.
pgs 6 -19 A. Approval of Minutes — 9/28/11 Regular Meeting
pgs 20 B. Christmas Parade Street Closings — December 3, 2011 (City Clerk Transmittal)
pgs 21 -26 C. Approve Purchase of Toro 3150 Riding Triplex Greens Mower for Golf Course in
from Hector Turf, Deerfield Beach the Amount of $23,406.00 — Sole Source and
Below State Contract Price (Golf Course Transmittal, Quote, Letter)
Ms. Coy removed item C.
MOTION by Mr. Gillmor and Mr. Wright to approve items A and B passed on a voice
vote of 5 -0.
Ms. Coy clarified that the mower was being purchased for the Golf Course with Golf
Course enterprise funds.
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Gillmor to approve item C.
Roll call result:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5 -0
8. COMMITTEE REPORTS & APPOINTMENTS
City committee reports and Council Member regional committee reports. No public input or action except for City
committee member nominations and appointments under this heading.
pgs 27 -33 A. Construction Board
Interview, Unless Waived, Submit Nominations for One Expired
Concerned Citizen Position — Term to Expire 9/30/2014
Mayor Hill noted that there was only one applicant.
Nomination by Mr. Wright and Ms. Coy to approve Jean Carbano. Ms. Carbano
was appointed for another term that will expire 9/30/2014.
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9. QUASI- JUDICIAL HEARING
pgs 34 -115 A.
Hearing on Appeal of Planning and Zoning Commission Approval of Clams `R'
Us Site Plan (Community Development Transmittal, Memo, Order, Letter,
Minutes, Two P &Z Packets)
The City Attorney read the title of the item noting the record is pages 34 -115 of the
packet.
Mayor Hill opened the hearing and read instructions for the hearing, which advised that
the hearing is limited to the record before them which came forward from the Planning
and Zoning (P &Z) hearing and Council can reverse or uphold the P & Z decision as a
matter of law.
No member of Council had ex -parte communications to disclose.
Upon the advice of the City Attorney, who said that although no new testimony was to be
given, the City Clerk swore in all those who intended to address Council.
The Community Development Director said the site plan application was submitted in
September 2009 to Growth Management, was submitted to Planning and Zoning on
March 17, 2011, at which time P & Z requested additional items of the appellee, it came
back before P & Z in August and was approved by 4 -3 vote. He said the appellant
submitted an appeal to that decision and noted the site plan approval in question is on
pages 104 -115 as approved on August 4, 2011.
Mayor Hill asked if it would be appropriate to set a time limit of 15 minutes, and the City
Attorney advised 15 minutes for each side.
Michael McNerney, unit owner within the three story condominium structure across the
street from the subject property, said he thought Planning and Zoning made three errors
in approving the site plan by a 4 -3 vote, noting the record from the August 4th meeting
supports the finding of those errors. He said there was no competent evidence to
address three major points made by people, and there was no basis to make the
decision. He said he had an excerpt of the hearing on video disk and would like to play
it. He said when the site plan first came before P & Z, it was sent back because of the
size of the structure and then came back in August with no change in size, but actually
larger because they took a slab and put a roof on it to count within the square footage of
the house, and the size issue was not addressed at all when it returned. He said the
record is replete with references and facts about the landscaping, there is a dispute on
the landscape waiver, the Chair confirmed it was sent back because of the size, and
when the issue of trees was raised, the testimony was no one thought they would live,
the applicant said it didn't matter if they died, and members of P & Z pointed out they
wouldn't live, so the question of landscaping was not supported by the record. He said
the third issue was raised by the P & Z Chairman that the development of the site with
residential use is inconsistent with the City's plans from Main Street up to Jackson, to
develop a tourist area, and that was the portion of the meeting he wanted to play for
them. He recapped the objections as the size of the building, trees not meeting
landscape requirements, and the use not being consistent with the strip there and having
a single family home there would kill the plans.
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Attorney Doug Vitunac, representing the appellee, opposed the playing of the video
since it was not in the original record.
The City Attorney advised City Council to take his motion under advisement, and not rule
on it now. He said it is first up to the Chair and then Council whether they wish to hear
this statement, noting it was part of the August hearing but that the appellant had not
provided a written transcript to Council. Mayor Hill said he would allow the tape to be
played.
The video excerpt from the August 4, 2011 P & Z meeting was played. Chairman Dodd
is heard citing LDC Section 54- 4.18.1 subsection (3) regarding intent of a site plan,
specifically "development is compatible and coordinated with existing and anticipated
development within the immediate area surrounding the site" and further stating this is a
large house on a small footprint, the City has invested money for tourism in this area to
generate tax revenues and bring tourists to the City, he sees this as Sebastian's Miracle
Mile and the City can build a tourist mecca. He said he had proposed four months ago to
ask City Council to remove single family residences in that area, that this site plan was
inconsistent with that section and the Commission should deny it.
Mr. McNerny said this is a large house on a small footprint with a clam business behind
the house; Phase 1 is the clam operation but there is no rendering in the record of what
this is going to look like. He closed by stating the record is deficient, there will be no
house for some period of time and that ought to be considered.
Attorney Doug Vitunac, 1756 Beachland Boulevard, Vero Beach, said Mr. McNerny
actually raised 4 points. He said that it was sent back due to size was a subjective
opinion, that the code has requirements his client has to meet and the staff report shows
this is a 1500 square foot building on a .44 acre lot, with 11.2% building coverage. He
stated the second point is there is nothing in the record on the appellees' side where
someone says we don't think trees will live, that landscaping was reworked in response
to P & Z, citing minutes on pages 50 and 57 of the agenda packet. He stated the third
point was about the opinion expressed by Chairman Dodd at the meeting, where
essentially he said if the City isn't going to make enough money is a reason for denial,
noting the district is zoned for single family development which is on the record as well.
He said the neighbors want no development and Chairman Dodd wants more
development.
For the record, he stated his objection to the appeal itself, stating no one from the Condo
Association appeared at the August 4th meeting and the appeal should be denied on that
alone, that no one spoke in objection and asked if Mr. McNerny was authorized to
represent other owners. He said the appellee was deprived of the chance to cross
examine Mr. Dodd. He said staff's finding of facts say requirements were followed (page
56 of agenda packet). He said in response to P & Z concerns about elevation, the
appellee had them designed by architect, Amy Banov (page 53 of agenda packet) and
Ms. Banov presented testimony and staff member Dorri Bosworth stated that it met the
of the old fishing village style.
Attorney Vitunac responded to the fourth point made by the appellant, stating the LDC
provides for phased plans, that all work on Phase I will be a benefit to the land, storm
water, that non - native species will be removed, and there will be shore line stabilization,
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so those concerns are not relevant. He said the Condo Association says there should
be landscaping and concrete installed prior to Phase I which would not make sense,
because no one could get in if all landscaping was installed. He stated in Florida the
appellee is entitled to know what is going to be argued, it's not an objective appeal, and
does not cite Code Sections, that the development meets all requirements of the Code,
citing agenda packet pages 49, 50, stating on the other side is speculation. He then cited
pages 38, 64 and 65 in regard to the number of agency permits required and obtained.
He said this has been a long term project and we have an appellant trying to negate a
project by paying $175 and writing a letter. He noted Mr. Sembler has said this protects
an independent way of life and not a government way. He urged them to move for
denial of the appeal, and said they would take the position if they sent it back to P & Z
their response would be that they have exhausted administrative remedies, and would
take it to circuit court.
Joe Weisman, appellee and property owner, said as the last point, the dock is
substantially the clam operation which is approved by the Governor and cabinet, each
one of the agencies approved it, and the dock is in the plan.
Mr. McNerny, in his rebuttal, said it's true the site is .44 acres but half of it is wetlands,
when it was stated that the structure was too big and it was sent back they made no
changes to the size, there is no refuting that the statement was made at P & Z that the
trees won't survive is in the record, that he did not say the dock was wrong but that we
don't know what it looks like, and that it was stated the dock was approved by the
Governor, but what does the clamming operation look like. He said as to the issue about
incompatibility, it is based on the P & Z Chairman reading the Statute on what is allowed
in the area, and that he had also read the Statute. He said we can make comments
about our feelings but we wouldn't get very far, and that he was trying to point out
deficiencies in the record and requested it be sent back to P & Z and establish record to
address these points.
Mayor Hill closed the hearing at 7:14 pm and said it is time for Council deliberation, and
it was Council's responsibility to decide if the P & Z decision was legal and have we
been shown something not legal and is there a legal basis to overturn the P & Z
decision.
Ms. Coy addressed the Community Development Director, asking if mixed use is
permissible on the riverfront, and he said yes. She asked about the building height, he
said 25 feet, which is the limit, covering 11.2% of the lot. Ms. Coy pointed out that if a
tree dies property owners are required by Code Enforcement to replace the tree. The
Community Development Director confirmed that was true but there was no evidence
that the trees would die and the appellant did not ask for any landscaping waivers. Ms.
Coy said she couldn't find anything presented that was done wrong at P & Z and though
they may have different opinions, their decision was to approve the plan.
Mr. Gillmor asked about Attorney Vitunac's statement that he was not able to depose
P & Z Chairman Dodd or the condo owners.
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The City Attorney explained in a quasi - judicial hearing one party would have the right to
cross examine, objections made are taken seriously by the Court, which is the reason he
suggested Council take Mr. Vitunac's motions under advisement, it may not be
necessary to preclude the motion, which may proceed in Court, Council has the
alternative to deal with those issues and deal with merits so a review in Court would
have the benefit of Council's review of the objections and merits, and they can deal with
that which is why he suggested listening to the full appellant presentation.
Mr. Gillmor pointed out the riverfront area does allow for residential development, the
law provides for residential use and he thought Council would have to deny the appeal.
Mr. Wright said there was a request to adjust the size of the building but there were no
facts that the size was out of scope, it seems the P & Z wanted it reduced because of
aesthetic reasons, and asked if that was correct. The Community Development Director
explained the building is allowed up to 30% of lot coverage, this is 11.2% and when it
went back, P & Z requested a change to the elevation. He also confirmed the building is
limited to 25 feet in height.
In response to Mr. Wright, the Community Development Director said there was no
discussion regarding the possibility of the landscaping dying. Mr. Wright cited the mixed
use along the waterfront noting this is not inconsistent; and asked if P & Z ever
considered removing single family residences from the district. The Community
Development Director said it has been under discussions, but not voted on. Mr. Wright
said he could not find any legal reasons to uphold the appeal.
In response to Mr. Wolff, the Community Development Director said 2,858 square feet of
the house is under air. Mr. Wolff pointed out the parcel is just slightly smaller than a
Highlands lot so it wasn't out of the ordinary; he didn't see how it doesn't conform to the
area; and it would be disingenuous to say if trees die they will be replaced, but it will be
legal when the c.o. is issued.
Mr. Wolff said he couldn't understand how to get approval of a structure without having
details of the structure. The Community Development Direct explained the appellant
went through a long process with Department of Agriculture to get approval. The Zoning
Technician explained phase 1 would be the retaining wall, and stormwater; phase 2
would be the docks and aquaculture (updwellers and raceways) which is not pictured but
the layout is pictured. Mr. Wolff said he thought the garage would stand alone until the
house was built and the Zoning Technician said only one of the garages will be built to
be used for tools, and a location for the clams to be dropped- off /picked -up.
Mr. Wolff asked if attendance was mandated to file an appeal. The City Attorney said he
thought so, but if they were to make that ruling initially, they run the risk of having the
Court disagreeing with him and send the whole matter back —but they allowed the
hearing to go forward and the appellant to make his case spending half an hour instead
of a year or two of potential delays, issues, and problems.
In response to Mr. Wolff, the Community Development Director said there would not be
a sign erected saying "Clams R Us." Mr. Wolff said he took exception to Mr. Vitunac's
statement that government was in the way; otherwise, the river would be barren and we
would need attorneys because there would be safety violations.
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He said he initially objected to the phasing, but since there won't be a structure, he did
not have any objections to this project moving ahead.
MOTION by Mr. Gillmor and SECOND by Mr. Wright to deny the appeal.
Roll call result:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5 -0
Mayor Hill called for a recess at 7:38 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at 7:50 p.m. All
members were present.
10. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
pgs 116 A. Working Waterfront Update (City Manager Transmittal)
The City Manager said since the FCT compliance letter came out, staff has had several
discussions with the tenants and in response the FCT delineated the intent of business plan as
follows:
music in the common area should be governed by a Special Event Permit
and should be in direct support of "Working Waterfront" activities, such as
fundraisers for nonprofit commercial fishing organizations, commercial fishing
heritage festivals, and seafood festivals.
the television screens or similar projections are to be used on the outside
deck, it should be limited to direct support of "Working Waterfront" activities,
such as education history or commercial fishing in Florida
the food serving activity on site should not be referenced to as a restaurant,
keeping in the nature of seafood shack, seafood eatery or seafood cafe
delete all reference to bar and restaurant on the property and in the leases,
subleases related to the grant
all tenants and subtenants should become members of the state marketing
campaign, Florida Fresh — linking efforts between the market and eatery
the existing bar should be identified should be limited seating of 8 to 10
seats with eatery service
the food service area should have six tables with 4 seats
total eatery service for 24 -32 people
He recommended Council accept FCT's determination and said he would like to move forward
by having another meeting with FLS tomorrow at 11:00 a.m., formalize it with a letter or memo
of understanding, and modify or rewrite the business plan within 30 days.
He said other issues to cover will be how the final amenities will be built; noting time would
probably need to be extended on those, and tackle any other issues that might come up.
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The City Manager said the State is permitting the City to operate as we deem appropriate but
Debbie McManus has asked for a music grace period for five dates that have already been
booked. He said those events should be allowed to go on but no more until the other amenities
are constructed.
Mr. Wolff said musicians are notoriously unreliable and not paid in advance; to lead Council that
they have been paid is a breach of good faith. Mr. Wright said it would be worth it to see if there
are cancelation penalties involved.
Mayor Hill stated the State has given a definitive outline that we need to take and we will have
to come into conformity.
8:05 pm Public Input
Sal Neglia cited an eighth point from FCT included is the submission of a site plan showing all
existing and proposed activities. The City Manager confirmed that would be included in the
business plan revision.
Barbara Salmon, Sebastian, said the music is in the common area like a free concert; and
musicians are typically booked through a booking agency so the events have been scheduled.
Mayor Hill clarified the special events are to be by FLS and not the eatery. The City Manager
said that was correct, the music is to permitted as a special use with the sole purpose of
generating revenue for working waterfront or FLS fundraiser. Mr. Wolff pointed out the letter
from FLS's attorney states it could be argued that the whole project could be considered a
fundraiser. The City Manager stated the City didn't agree with that position, that music on a
regular basis would be in non - compliance. The City Manager reiterated if a special event
generates funds for FLS that would be permitted.
David DeVirgilio, Sebastian, said we should never have come to this point; and he hoped
someone oversees this in the future to make sure we comply.
Dave Walton, Sebastian asked if FLS pays taxes. Mayor Hill explained the City owns the
property, along with many other properties involved in private enterprises, and they do not pay
ad valorem taxes. Mr. Walton said when he moved to Sebastian he worked with the City to put
up a sports bar but wasn't able to get anywhere because of parking, drainage, and complaints
from neighbors. He said he didn't see any landscaping bids come out for this site as his son is
a landscaper; and a good landscaper will guarantee installed plants. He said everyone was
involved in the non - compliance and asked if there was anything in place to prevent it from
happening again.
Damien Gilliams, Sebastian, said the point Mr. Walton was trying to make is when a corporation
is subsidized by the government, it is not a fair playing field and the two leases are not paying
fair market value. He suggested there should be established hours of operation so there isn't
competition with the existing businesses; Council is not doing due diligence and it is tearing up
the community; everybody needs to learn because Council is affecting peoples' lives; Council
cannot reward people for not complying with stormwater management and landscaping;
property sitting for six months must be brought into compliance and he asked why the City is
looking the other way.
Mayor Hill said the City is getting fair market value and taking steps to make it right.
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Greg Hepler, 1291 Barber Street, said people have forgotten the museum, asked when will they
see how to build a crab trap, and will there be a curator building. He said he is not opposed to
the project; but he would like to see other businesses incorporated to the fish market. Mayor
Hill replied those are part of the Hurricane Harbor building and are in the works.
Bill Tiedge said there is a museum in the seafood market, there is a lot more to come, he is
selling to other local restaurants and he is hearing that this is best thing to happen in Sebastian.
Ms. Coy asked why the City needs to rewrite the business plan. The City Manager stated the
State said leases are sufficient but the intent wasn't clearly delineated in the business plan, so
they request the modification to support, define, and guide the operations.
Ms. Coy said the Stan Mayfield grant has two recipients in Florida and by going on -line to
www.MsApplesCrabShack.com you can get an idea of what is expected. She said the music
should be very specific, she disagreed that the site itself is a fundraiser, and if they waiver on
the music the lawyers will step in again to figure it out.
She also said it is clear the bar isn't supposed to be there as the goal is to have families come
through to watch the fishermen.
MOTION by Ms. Coy to instruct staff to bring the working waterfront into compliance in
accordance with the instructions contained in the e-mail dated Tuesday, October 11th effective
immediately, all activities not in compliance need to cease. MOTION DIED for lack of second.
MOTION by Mr. Gillmor to go with staff's recommendation, have the City Manager work to bring
things into compliance.
Mayor Hill asked if that included the City Manager's plan to draft a MOU to the State and rewrite
the business plan within 30 days. Mr. Gillmor said it did. SECOND by Mayor Hill.
Ms. Coy asked them to add compliance by the next meeting, October 26th. Mayor Hill said that
we have 30 days to come up with a plan and we may be able to come into compliance before
then.
The City Manager said he felt very comfortable that on October 26th FLS will make
modifications, there will be a memorandum of understanding, and if the tenants can't come into
compliance, the City will issue notice of violation.
Mr. Wright said the hours of operation need to be part of the order as they go forward and asked
what happens if the tenants don't follow the regulations - -there should be a medium level fine.
He asked for clarification of the table service seating area and suggested discontinuance of the
Working Waterfront Committee and have the new president, Tim Adams, form a committee of
businessmen that will support his operation to fulfill the plan and dreams that we have. He also
requested a plan for when the additional amenities will be completed. He said the agreements
should be conceptual on October 26th so we know where we stand. He requested information
on cancelation penalties for the booked events.
Mr. Wolff agreed with all of Mr. Wright's points - -there should be hours of operation; there has to
be enforcement as there hasn't been compliance to date. He explained the fine shouldn't be an
additional amount to the monthly lease as the in -kind value for the receipts submitted to date
total $400,000 so it is a wash for some time; the fine has to be cash money.
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He said a definitive understanding of the table service will lead to a clear operation and success.
In regard to the bar, he said the emphasis was education, cultural heritage and we cannot
condone school children visiting an operating bar as there are children whose parents drink and
they deserve to be educated and not observe what occurs in the home. He requested the
definition of what the bar means.
Mr. Gillmor said he found Mr. Wolff's objection to bar disingenuous because he voted to serving
beer at an event sponsored by the Charter Jr. High. Mr. Wolff explained the beneficiary was a
school, it was held on the weekend and there was no mandatory attendance. Mr. Wolff offered
to have Mr. Gillmor call him a hypocrite, but if there is a functioning bar, he will take 100% of his
efforts in front of the school board and leaders of the community to ensure that Indian River
County school children do not take field trips to a place with a working bar.
Ms. Coy said the Charter Jr. High school requested the service of alcohol. She agreed that she
couldn't envision a school bus full of children witnessing an unruly group.
Mr. Gillmor called for the question. In response to the Mayor, the City Attorney said that was at
his discretion and he allowed Mr. Wolff to continue.
Mr. Wolff said he was asking for the definition of table service, bar service, and museum
expectations. He said FLS needs time to raise money, form a committee amongst themselves;
Mr. Adams will bring in talent, the amenities will happen quickly and it is going in the right
direction. He said the City Manager thought the fish house would cost $250,000 so there will
have to be a lot of fund raising with a time line out in the future.
Mr. Wright said he would be looking for cooperation during school trips by closing the bar.
Mayor Hill and Mr. Wolff agreed.
Mayor Hill reiterated the motion was to direct the City Manager to obtain compliance as the
State requires with the input received this evening. Mr. Wright said he would like to see a report
back at the next meeting. Mr. Gillmor agreed to AMEND his motion to include the report and this
was SECONDED by Mayor Hill.
The City Clerk stated the motion was to go with staff recommendation bring project into
compliance with a report of the progress presented at the October 26th meeting. Mr. Wright
asked that the additional comments be included and Mayor Hill pointed out the City Manager
would have failed if he did not include everything.
Roll call result:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5 -0
11. PUBLIC INPUT
Bruce Zingman, Sebastian, thanked Council for consenting to the Christmas Parade on
December 3rd; announced the Sebastian Property Owners Candidates Forum to held
tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. in these chambers that will be televised.
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Damien Gilliams, said when someone is in violation, they come into compliance first and
negotiate later so it is backwards with the working waterfront business plan.
Ms. Coy called for a point of order citing this topic was previously on the agenda. Mayor
Hill allowed him to continue.
Mr. Gilliams said compliance should be done immediately; alcohol should not be served
on this property; when the City does property waivers, it should be done for all vacant
properties to start new businesses so they don't have to bring in storm water engineering
and landscaping plans because the City isn't conforming to their own regulations. He
said people are leaving this town, being harassed about petty stuff such as flags; one
gentleman lost a tenant to incorrect parking requirements; he has units sitting vacant
and it has to stop.
12. NEW BUSINESS
pgs 117 A. Approve Go -Line Grant Contribution as Requested, Subject to FY 2012 and 2013
Appropriations (City Manager Transmittal)
The City Manager said he would like to formally execute the expenditure for fiscal year
2012. Ms. Coy said she was disappointed that Vero Beach doesn't contribute; she
would consider half -price at $25,000 for six months to put pressure on Karen Deigl.
Mr. Wolff asked her if she saw in the newspaper that Vero Beach complained that the
Go -Line was late in installing the bus shelter and Vero hasn't put in a nickel. Mr. Gillmor
said they are doing an in -kind donation of land for the hub; and explained each dollar in
the grant is matched so a lower amount will mean a lower grant.
Mr. Wright said he found it objectionable that Vero Beach doesn't contribute, Council
asked Karen Deigl to come back with information and they received their answer from
the newspaper; he would approve this year but this may be last time, that it should be
funded by County.
Mr. Wolff commended Mr. Wright as it was reported that Commissioner Solari wanted to
derail the train but he was afraid it would jeopardize the Go -Line. He said it is a valuable
resource but how the $50,000 was taken from the employees' health care package is not
a sustainable program.
Mayor Hill said the money was coming from local option gas tax. The City Manager said
it was coming from the local option gas tax to reduce the transfer from local option gas
tax to the general fund. Mr. Wolff clarified the City Manager said at a previous meeting it
was coming from the employee health care savings. The City Manager said undeniable
there is an indisputable relationship between all general fund transfers and special fund
transfers that does affect how we pay for items in the general fund.
MOTION by Mr. Gillmor and SECOND by Mayor Hill to approve the one time
appropriation of $50,000 for fiscal year 2012 to the Go -Line service.
The City Clerk noted for the record there was an error in the title of the agenda item, it
was only supposed to read FY2012.
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Damien Gilliams said the service is essential, we should take into consideration what
Vero Beach does, need to think ahead maybe go to the clam bake and figure out how to
get it funded in the future.
David DeVirgilio, Sebastian, member of the Metropolitan Planning Organization's Citizen
Advisory Committee, said there has been discussion to charge people but it would be a
great opportunity for people to ride for free.
Ms. Coy said it was an all day affair to get to Vero or Ft. Pierce; if a bus stops at a hub it
is counted unfairly as two trips in the ridership count; she knows we are not getting our
fair share out of this yet Sebastian and Fellsmere need it the most; she will support it but
object because they are not dealing with the City any better as we don't have the
shelters or service.
Roll call result:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5 -0
pgs 118 -167 B. Adopt Resolution No. R -11 -26 — PEA Collective Bargaining Agreement
(Administrative Services Transmittal, R- 11 -26, Agreement)
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BARGAINING UNIT OF THE COASTAL FLORIDA PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION (CFPEA) AND THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN FOR THE PERIOD
OCTOBER 1, 2011 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2013; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTION IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
The City Attorney read the title of Resolution No. R- 11 -26. The City Manager said the
PEA passed the two year contract and briefly outlined the changes. He said to give
employees a foresight, the negotiations have identified a benchmark for the assessed
value of FY12 and if number is above that, there would be more revenue to re- discuss
benefits. If it is below, we have defined the minimization of benefits in year two of the
contract.
MOTION Mr. Wright and SECOND by Ms. Coy to adopt Resolution R -11 -26 PEA
agreement.
Damien Gilliams said Council is asking the employees to do more but giving them less,
they need a strategic plan because employees shouldn't have to go for two more years,
suggested Council forego their salaries to put a fire under their feet to focus.
Mr. Gillmor said when things do improve there will have to be a super COLA; said he
was going to support this but they need to look to the future.
Mayor Hill and Ms. Coy thanked staff for putting this contract forward, noting there are a
lot of folks without any income, they appreciate each cut the employees receive.
Mr. Wolff said there are funds for capital improvements and there are calls for more that
come with maintenance which comes back to doing more with less and going forward
Council needs to be cognizant.
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Mr. Wright said they put in a trigger to readjust the contracts, and have discussed goals
to recapture general fund money so Council is asking employees to stick with them and
when funds are there we are preparing to give something back.
Roll call result:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5 -0
pgs 168 -241 C. Adopt Resolution No. R -11 -27 — PBA Collective Bargaining Agreement
(Administrative Services Transmittal, R- 11 -27, Agreement)
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA,
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE BARGAINING UNIT OF THE COASTAL FLORIDA POLICE
BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION, INC. (CFPBA) AND THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN FOR THE
PERIOD OCTOBER 1, 2011 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2013; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MOTION by Mr. Wright and SECOND by Ms. Coy to approve Resolution No. R- 11 -27.
The City Attorney read the title of Resolution No. R- 11 -27.
Damien Gilliams said the Police Department saved the citizens $250,000 a year with
their citizens academy and asked why it can't be done at City Hall, he thanked the
Department for saving money.
Ms. Coy and Mayor Hill thanked the Police Department and volunteers.
Roll call result:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5 -0
pgs 242 -247 D. Exempt Employees Management Benefits Package (City Manager Transmittal,
Policy)
The City Manager said the package marries the PEA benefits to department heads and
middle management and recommended approval. He pointed out this has never been
before Council but he wanted to memorialize the changes.
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Gillmor to approve the exempt employees
package.
Roll call result:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5 -0
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pgs 248 -250 E. First Reading Ordinance No. 0 -11 -18 — Eliminate Term Limits for City Boards —
Set Public Hearing for 11/16/11 (City Attorney Transmittal, 0- 11 -18)
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, FLORIDA, DELETING
TERM LIMITS FOR BOARD MEMBERS, AMENDING SECTION 2 -171 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA, REPEALING CONFLICTING PROVISIONS; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
The City Attorney read the title of Ordinance No. 0- 11 -18.
MOTION by Mr. Gillmor and SECOND by Ms. Coy to move approval on first reading.
There was no public input.
Mr. Wolff said this is limiting the term limits for members of the boards and cited the
current code which limits service to six years, if someone new comes along who would
like to serve the incumbent would need to take a break and then they're at liberty to
come back. He said he would think they would want to give people opportunities to get
involved; he understood the impetus, but Council could just as easily get somebody they
don't like so he thought this was a double -edged sword; on the local level, everybody
should get a chance.
Mayor Hill said he disagreed, if Council continued as -is and only one person applied that
person is automatically placed on this board, it is Council's responsibility to choose who
is placed on a board, Council could remove anyone not fulfilling their obligation at any
time; said just because someone is applying doesn't mean will they will make a positive
impact.
Mr. Wolff said Council can only remove someone if they don't fulfill their responsibility,
but not if they aren't effective, it's a double -edged sword; he asked if nobody likes you
how are you going to get nominated.
Mr. Gillmor said there are some good people who enjoy working on the boards and once
they find their niche they are a positive force and then to have them get off is a
disservice. He said losing Larry Paul on P & Z was tough.
Ms. Coy reminded Council of the fact that Mr. Paul could have come back very quickly.
The City Attorney said as long as his terms weren't consecutive. Mr. Wright added as
long as no one else applied.
Result of roll call:
AYES: Gillmor, Hill, Wright
NAYS: Coy, Wolff
Passed 3 -2.
The City Attorney added that the public hearing will be held November 16th for the
ordinance.
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13. CITY ATTORNEY MATTERS
pg 251 A. Litigation Update (Report)
The City Attorney said in keeping with the new fiscal year, he provided his report to keep
Council up to date.
14. CITY MANAGER MATTERS
The City Manager said the County Planning and Zoning Commission will be hearing the
Ocean Concrete appeal on October 27th and he requested direction on sending a
resolution to the Commission. Mr. Wright suggested forwarding the existing resolution.
Ms. Coy suggested adding a cover letter to the existing resolution.
He recognized that employees and union representatives discussed a number of difficult
issues with grace this year.
15. CITY CLERK MATTERS
The City Clerk announced the Chamber of Commerce forum on October 19th from 7:00
to 9:00 p.m. that will be broadcast live on channel 25.
The City Attorney stated he was planning to attend County P & Z meeting on behalf of
the City.
MOTION by Ms. Coy and SECOND by Mr. Wolff to extend the meeting passed with a
voice vote of 5 -0.
16. CITY COUNCIL MATTERS
A. Council Member Wolff
Mr. Wolff reported that at the MPO meeting earlier in the day, they went over an
extensive bicycle program that will train phys ed teachers in the schools and if anyone in
the public thought their child's school might benefit from this program to contact their
child's phys ed teacher to make inquiries.
He said the vote on board term limits was interesting and the candidates' platforms will
be interesting to see as they discuss term limits.
B. Mayor Hill — none.
C. Vice Mayor Wright
Mr. Wright explained that the phasing of Council member terms in the referendum
question of possibly going to four year terms.
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D. Council Member Coy
Ms. Coy said Roseland is having their annual barbeque this weekend at the fire house
that will feature good food and music.
E. Council Member Gillmor
17. Being no further business, Mayor Hill adjourned the meeting at 10:02 p.m.
Approved at the October 26t`', 2011 Regular City Council Meeting
IT/Hill, Mayor
ATTEST:
Sally A. MaioJMMC — City Clerk
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