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SEBASTIAN CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2011 - 6:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1225 MAIN STREET, SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA
1. Mayor Hill called the regular meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
2. Pastor Karen Leedahl of Christ the King Lutheran Church gave the invocation.
3. Council Member Coy led the Pledge of Allegiance.
4. ROLL CALL
City Council Present:
Mayor Jim Hill
Vice -Mayor Don Wright
Council Member Andrea Coy
Council Member Richard H. Gillmor
Council Member Eugene Wolff
Staff Present:
City Manager, Al Minner
City Attorney, Robert Ginsburg
City Clerk, Sally Maio
Airport Director, Joseph Griffin
Garage Supervisor, Greg Schmidt
Deputy Police Chief, Greg Witt
MIS Senior Systems Analyst, Barbara Brooke -Reese
5. AGENDA MODIFICATIONS
Modifications and additions
6. PROCLAMATIONS, AWARDS, BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENTS
Presentations of proclamations, certificates and awards, and brief timely announcements by Council and Staff. No public
input or action under this heading.
A. Certificate of Appreciation to Tara Howe for Natural Resources Board Service
Mayor Hill presented the certificate to Ms. Howe and thanked her for her
contribution.
B. Presentation by Don and Chris Loftus, Co- Chairs, United Way of Indian River
County
Don and Chris Loftus gave a brief presentation on the need to increase
participation in support of United Way funding, noting their focus on the
thermometers placed around the County this coming year will be to measure the
number of lives saved and not specifically dollars earned, cited the large number
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of volunteers and lives touched by United Way funds and encouraged people to
volunteer for the Citizens Review Panel which visits various recipient agencies.
They handed out United Way information packets to City Council.
Mayor Hill thanked them for their presentation and praised the United Way
program.
C. Fellsmere City Manager Jason Nunemaker — Greenway Funding (City Manager
Transmittal, Letter)
Mr. Nunemaker gave a presentation on the North County Greenway program and
solicited Council support. He exhibited the proposed eleven mile greenway map
(see attached) from the Fellsmere cemetery at the east end and ending at the
proposed National Elephant Center (see attached) and cited the importance of
connectivity of various facilities along the trail and the anticipated boon to
ecotourism. He said Indian River County had agreed to be a partner and donated
$40K which will be spent in the buffer preserve and he cited other private
partners He said he is not asking for funding from the City, just support in the
form of a letter signed by the Mayor.
All were in agreement and Mayor Hill directed the City Manager to draft a
resolution and letter of support.
D. Brief Announcements
Ms. Coy announced the GFWC Haunted House on Main Street through October
31st and asked people to support them.
Mr. Gillmor announced the rescheduled Saturday Family Jamboree at the IRC
Fairgrounds this weekend, and the first Sebastian Art Festival from 10 am to 4
pm entitled "Fall Colors" at the Art Club Center adjacent to City Hall.
Mr. Wright announced the Sebastian Clambake in Riverview Park from
November 4 through November 6, 2011 and encouraged everyone to attend.
The City Clerk announced the Halloween parade costume contest in Riverview
Park this Saturday at 10 am.
7 CONSENT AGENDA
All items on the consent agenda are considered routine and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate
discussion of consent agenda items unless a member of City Council so requests; in which event, the item will be
removed and acted upon separately. If a member of the public wishes to provide input on a consent agenda item, he /she
should request a Council Member to remove the item for discussion prior to start of the meeting or by raising his/her hand
to be recognized.
pgs A. Approval of Minutes — 10/12/2011 Regular Meeting
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B. Authorize Purchase of Three Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor Vehicles in
the Amount of $105,290 from Florida Sheriff's Association /Florida Association of
Counties Purchasing Contract 10 -18 -0907 (PD Transmittal, Quotes)
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MOTION by Mr. Gillmor and SECOND by Ms. Coy to approve the consent agenda.
Roll call result:
Ayes: All
Nays: None
Passed 5 -0
8. COMMITTEE REPORTS & APPOINTMENTS
City committee reports and Council Member regional committee reports. No public input or action except for City
committee member nominations and appointments under this heading.
Mr. Gillmor reported on the Treasure Coast Regional League of Cities Google ad words
campaign which directs people to the TCRLC website and then on to the participating
cities, noting they had spent $1369 so far, had 1080 clicks on the site and 45,572
impressions.
He then reported on an email from NBC's "America's Got Talent" in regard to auditions
in Tampa, which requests local talent to participate. He said he would pass the
information along to the Sebastian River Sharks Marching Band and advised anyone
else interested to sign up.
Mr. Wolff commended him on the apparent success of the Google ad words campaign.
Mr. Gillmor said the cost per click was $1.36, they had budgeted $6K, and in keeping
with current activity there will be 4400 views over the next six months.
9. PUBLIC HEARING - None
10. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Four Chaplains Memorial in Riverview Park (City Manager Transmittal)
Larry Wapnick, President, Four Chaplains Monument Committee, presented a replica
model of the planned monument, said they plan to complete the project and unveil it on
February 14, 2012 which is survivor Ernie Heaton's 89th birthday. He said this truly
shows interfaith in action, and described some of the appurtenances of the memorial
such as the eternal flame and a 48 star American flag. He said there will be visitors from
around the country including relatives of the chaplains. He said he has been so moved
by local veterans groups such as VFW and American Legion, and that he would like to
make them custodians of the memorial as well as Jewish War Veterans and US Navy
Armed Guard.
Ernie Heaton said he had been here before, had met Andrea Coy years ago and it is
always a pleasure to come back. Ms. Coy asked if there are many memorials like this
and asked if it would be the largest. Mr. Wapnick said there are memorials in Long
Island and CT but this will be the largest, the memorial being eight feet across and the
ship resting on a ten foot base and the pool will be 18 feet with water flowing.
Mayor Hill asked, since it is on City property, do they need help with site work and Mr.
Wapnick said they would love it if the City could help.
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Ms. Coy said once undertaken, perhaps the location of the trellis to the northeast corner
might interfere with other ceremonies at the Veterans memorial and we'll have to see as we
go along.
Mr. Wapnick said they will leave it up to compositor who knows best and we can work out
the details, noting that ideas come from people and all ideas are welcome. He said the City
Manager and Mayor have worked diligently with them.
The City Manager said there is an approved site plan and construction plans need to be
finalized, then we can get into construction late November or early December. He said he
will come back to Council to show them the final design specs at the November or
December Council meeting.
Mr. Wapnick left the model as a gift for the City to display.
11.012 B. Working Waterfront Update III (City Manager Transmittal, Letter)
The City Manager updated City Council, said he had received a letter from the
restaurant regarding their intent to vacate the premises and now we are in compliance
with the Working Waterfront grant assurances. He said he had sent letters to the tenants
and had asked the State to confirm that we are in compliance. He said the State had
asked us to modify the leases and amend the Management Plan which he is working on.
He said he is asking the State for 60 days to get the amended plan in place.
Damien Gilliams said he appreciates the update, said with the Working Waterfront we
are taking the lead in the industry, FDEP served a violation letter and the City Manager
is trying to comply but things are not in compliance, there is no floor plan and no hours
established, the City removed objects down there and we have soiled our name by not
being in compliance. He said a business person invested $100K and now leaves feeling
mistreated. He said Council members were down there and no one told her she was not
in compliance but the State found out and we need to clear the air.
Mayor Hill said for the past three years he has been on the property every week or two as
have others on Council, has met with FSL to discuss what was going on and asked what
their vision was and it was identical to our vision and what the State directed us to do, and
he was never told anything else. He said no one from the City ever had any indication that
a restaurant, bar and tiki lounge would be there, and then he received a phone call on a
Friday that a restaurant was open, looked into it and called the City Manager to go see
what was going on, and the vision that we had been sold was not what was there, that
staff was concerned and staff met with all representatives within five days of the opening
and told them they had to be in compliance. He said very early on in the process we got a
legal letter and were told to stop talking to the lessees and it was his understanding that
FLS said "it is what it is" and will be until the State tells them it had to change. He said we
have taken steps to bring it into compliance and the City Manager has done a yeoman's
job in dealing with this situation, we got the property in compliance and we need to move
forward and make sure the vision sold to us goes there. He said the business community
is excited to help us out, including some of those who were directly opposed in the
beginning, said there was a bump but in the two and a half years what has occurred is
fantastic. He said we need to settle some issues such as hours of operation and field trip
accommodations, saying there is misinformation being bantered about.
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Mr. Gillmor said he agreed and it was unfortunate how it came down, and to set the
record straight, we are not the manager of that property, rather FLS has that
responsibility, and for us to give direction to anyone who has a leasehold is not proper
and could be a legal problem, that it is between the leaseholder and sublessees. He said
he was amazed at the speed of the opening of the restaurant. He said when we had the
Treasure Coast Regional League of Cities meeting there we were told the facility would
open in October, we had an art show there and just after the TCRLC meeting they called
and told us to get the art work down and the restaurant was open. He said he was
excited about the vision and how quickly it morphed into a usable building.
Mr. Wright said he was pleased we are in compliance and now with the vision that we
had, the people we are dealing with understand that, that the commercial fishermen are
there and we should get moving quickly. He said there is a lot of work involved with
paperwork that needs to be finished, and he is very optimistic the ultimate plan will be
carried out, but we should not put it on a fast track, and it should be done carefully. He
said there is no mandate that we have to be fully operational tomorrow, there should be
no more misunderstandings and we'll be well served.
Ms. Coy said Mayor Hill's experience was identical to hers though maybe a couple of
days apart. The City Manager said it was actually simultaneous.
Ms. Coy said her experience was generated by several phone calls and when she went
there, was surprised it was a restaurant, the fish tank was there in the service window,
and she was greeted by three wait staff who asked if she'd be dining in or out, that none
of Council or staff was notified of a grand opening, it just occurred, and when we got
wind of it we jumped in. She said Mr. Wright was correct, that we need to move on and
not rush and there is no need to point fingers, that no one on the dais or City Hall gave
permission to this restaurant and they did not know it was happening, but we had to take
the blame. She said there is no need to rush, Crab E Bill has a great business going and
the project is about fishermen and fishing and that is what we have to stick with and it
will be a great success.
Mr. Wolff said it was not so much the speed of the opening, it was the speed of the
closing, that there were inaccuracies in the Lemmon column in the newspaper which left
the impression that the City had a lot more involvement than it had. He said it was Crab
E Bill which had the relationship with the McManus family with the sublease and the
details and formation of that relationship are unknown to us, and that if it was a City
project everyone would have been eligible to put in a bid. He said he was not sure how
Crab E Bill found someone from Ft. Pierce and maybe that requires more investigation.
He said the only tipoff could have come when the equipment was installed, but no one
here on Council had any idea, as the owner of property, what the actual business plan
was, but now it is closed and she has left. He said he was very concerned that threads
unwound need to be tidied, that Mrs. McManus paid forward to Crab E Bill and the
money went into the building. He said we need to determine if anything is owed, what
happens to the equipment, and while we have a long arm distance relationship, we
should not get into a legal situation, and as long as issues are lingering we will not have
peace of mind. He said we have to sit down with all parties and hear from them, ask
what is their six months' plan, that we can't be pushed into having a business in there,
that we should hear what lessons have been learned and said it would be fantastic if it
was available to a Sebastian resident. He said it was important to state tonight to get the
record straight on what actually took place.
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The City Manager said Council has summarized the issue exactly and correctly and has
an excellent understanding. He said misappropriation of funds was stated, which is a big
accusation, and that no misappropriation had occurred. He said he has gone on the
record saying he made one mistake, but that the sale of assets were the junky
equipment in the old restaurant, that the Code required public process for the sale but
the City Attorney has reviewed and opined that the asset value was so low there was no
mismanagement. He said he had pointed out in the appraisals that they stated there was
no value in the existing assets, which was provided to Council and to the speaker. He
said on the leases his mistake was not giving them to FCT to review before he signed
off, however the State has indicated that the mistakes were not major mistakes, that they
have had the subleases for six weeks and have not had one word back on any fixes. He
said his title is City Manager and he has managed the project, and that going forward we
will amend the leases, that the leases speak to obligations, but not such issues as beer,
hours, etc. and there was nothing in the lease that would have prevented this. He said
the State capitulates that by telling us to amend the Management plan and we are well
into the amendment and tying up loose ends.
Mayor Hill said he believed the City Manager and his staff were doing a great job on that.
11. PUBLIC INPUT
David Walton, Sebastian resident, thanked Larry Wapnick for the memorial, said he was
a member of the VFW and American Legion and had been to ceremonies in the park,
and discussed an idea which he had spoken to the City Manager about to construct a
walkway of honor around the Memorial similar to the one on Main Street, where
someone could purchase in honor of someone. He said this would enable us to have
trees around the walkway for shade for older people so they don't pass out.
Mayor Hill said it sounds like a fantastic idea and urged him to talk to the City Manager
to see how it would all work together.
Ms. Coy gave her copy of the Four Chaplains memorial backup to Mr. Walton.
Damien Gilliams started to discuss the City Manager's comments on the leases, and
Mayor Hill told him to stick to the public input policy and speak on new business only.
Mr. Gilliams protested and said under the rules he could discuss something from the last
six months. Mayor Hill reiterated that the item was discussed under the last agenda item
and he should bring new business. Mr. Gilliams again discussed the existing waterfront
leases and once again Mayor Hill reminded his to bring new business.
Mr. Gilliams said he had a right to respond and said the City Manager made it clear that
the leases were not approved by his office or by the State and that when we had the
TCRLC meeting down there with high dignitaries, no one said anything.
Mayor Hill read from the agenda the requirements for public input, and Mr. Gilliams
asked to be allowed to speak. Mayor Hill said we have discussed this for the last three
meetings. Mr. Gilliams said the City Manager signed off on liquor licenses and knew
how many seats were going in. Mayor Hill said he had his five minutes.
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Mr. Gilliams thanked Mr. Wolff for serving his community and hoped he would take the
time to get involved again.
12. NEW BUSINESS
13. CITY ATTORNEY MATTERS
The City Attorney reported that at the last meeting he told Council he would appear on
their behalf at the IRC P & Z meeting, but had since received a letter that the appeal
hearing would not take place because a Federal court had rejected Mr. Maib's protest of
the sale of the property and a US Marshall had directed the execution of the deed to the
new owner.
14. CITY MANAGER MATTERS
Mr. Wolff asked about the pooled water in the median on CR 512 and Barber Street
where the new landscaping had been installed and asked what we are going to do.
The City Manager said he had no immediate answer and would get with the Administrative
Services Director to get a better answer.
Ms. Coy, Mr. Wright and Mr. Wolff said they had received phone calls about band noise
coming from the waterfront and asked that they be reminded to tone it down. Mr. Wolff
said you can hear Earl's music from City Hall over the weekend.
15. CITY CLERK MATTERS
The City Clerk encouraged people to get out and vote on November 8, 2011, or vote
early at the Supervisor of Elections Office, 4375 43rd Avenue, Vero Beach, FL 32967
from Saturday, October 29 through Saturday, November 5, 2011 from 8 am to 4 pm,
which includes Sunday October 30th. She said copies of charter amendment questions
and corresponding proposed language are available in the City Hall lobby.
16. CITY COUNCIL MATTERS
A. Mayor Hill
Mayor Hill said the years fly by so fast, the election is coming up and said he had
enjoyed working with all members of Council, thanking them for their civility and that he
was proud of the way all have behaved. He thanked Mr. Wolff for serving his community
and though they had sometimes disagreed, they always worked well together.
B. Vice Mayor Wright
Mr. Wright thanked Mr. Wolff and said his decisions were made in the best interest of the
City, that it was a pleasure working with him and that he was a gentleman. He then
urged people to get out and vote.
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C. Council Member Coy
Ms. Coy said she would truly miss Mr. Wolff, that she had grown to appreciate this
Council and despite their differences and different perspectives they all worked well
together.
Ms. Coy reported on Janet Begley's PJ article citing Sebastian as being the 34th top
cheapest place to live.
Ms. Coy gave kudos to Ronnie Preuss for the countless hours and phone calls made to
help one of her English student save his home from foreclosure and to Snyder and
Associates who helped him get insurance.
D. Council Member Gillmor
Mr. Gillmor echoed what everyone said about Mr. Wolff, citing his intellect and humor
and hoped that he won't be a stranger.
E. Council Member Wolff
Mr. Wolff said he was grateful and honored to have had the opportunity to be on Council,
and shared some thoughts on their four years together, trusted they had found some
things he did worthy, that he had made some mistakes but did what he believed in,
always tried to give his best, listened and never gave up his independence. He said
when we suffer a setback and believe all has ended, it is not true, and that great things
come when you are tested. He said he leaves proud of the people who stood by him and
proud of what we have accomplished, he will remember all and the City will always be in
his heart.
17. Being no further business, Mayor Hill adjourned the regular meeting at 8:06 pm
Approved at the November 16, 2011 Regular City Council Meeting
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Sally A. Maio MC — City Clerk
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